1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:26,129 --> 00:00:29,270 [slow dramatic music] 4 00:01:28,502 --> 00:01:30,090 - Creating the illusion of life 5 00:01:30,124 --> 00:01:32,471 is no different than a magic trick. 6 00:01:32,506 --> 00:01:33,714 You're creating an illusion, 7 00:01:33,748 --> 00:01:34,991 but it's a different kind of illusion. 8 00:01:35,025 --> 00:01:36,165 It's a static illusion. 9 00:01:36,199 --> 00:01:37,649 It's not something that's moving. 10 00:01:37,683 --> 00:01:39,306 It's not something that's happening. 11 00:01:39,340 --> 00:01:43,862 It's something that's in front of you in tangible 3D. 12 00:01:43,896 --> 00:01:46,485 - Oh, I've seen a lot of taxidermy over the years. 13 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,108 Not just because I'm Ken's brother, 14 00:01:48,142 --> 00:01:51,594 but because I've just seen a lot. 15 00:01:52,284 --> 00:01:54,907 One of the things I've noticed is that there are animals 16 00:01:54,942 --> 00:01:57,910 that look stuffed and then there are animals 17 00:01:57,945 --> 00:02:00,154 that still look like they're alive. 18 00:02:00,189 --> 00:02:02,605 And Ken was able to make animals look 19 00:02:02,639 --> 00:02:04,124 like they were still alive. 20 00:02:04,158 --> 00:02:05,263 - I wrote an article 21 00:02:05,297 --> 00:02:07,506 for Breakthrough Magazine some years back 22 00:02:07,541 --> 00:02:12,028 and the term I coined was, Ken has magic in his hands. 23 00:02:13,409 --> 00:02:15,756 [slow music] 24 00:02:19,346 --> 00:02:23,039 - I don't have the art reputation as a taxidermist. 25 00:02:23,073 --> 00:02:24,834 You know what, it's never been recognized 26 00:02:24,868 --> 00:02:28,320 by the art crowd as being really what it is. 27 00:02:29,528 --> 00:02:31,634 The people who deny that it's an art form the most 28 00:02:31,668 --> 00:02:36,190 are the ones that are insulted by animals dying. 29 00:02:36,225 --> 00:02:39,883 I guess a little controversy in art is good. 30 00:02:52,862 --> 00:02:55,382 I'm going to the World Championships again. 31 00:02:55,416 --> 00:03:00,249 I'm doing a recreation Sasquatch. 32 00:03:01,319 --> 00:03:02,423 - [Woman] Oh really? 33 00:03:02,458 --> 00:03:03,769 - [Ken] Yeah. - [Woman] Oh very cool. 34 00:03:03,804 --> 00:03:05,495 - [Ken] Yeah, it is going to be cool. - [Woman] Very cool. 35 00:03:05,530 --> 00:03:06,703 - [Ken] It's all said and done. 36 00:03:06,738 --> 00:03:07,808 - [Woman] What are you using for the hide and stuff? 37 00:03:07,842 --> 00:03:09,189 For the Sasquatch, bears, I guess. 38 00:03:09,223 --> 00:03:10,431 - [Ken] No, not bears. 39 00:03:10,466 --> 00:03:11,812 More like goats or something. 40 00:03:11,846 --> 00:03:13,089 I haven't really-- 41 00:03:13,123 --> 00:03:14,953 - [Woman] Decided what you're, yeah... 42 00:03:14,987 --> 00:03:16,437 - [Ken] Yeah, I'll see you later. 43 00:03:16,472 --> 00:03:17,438 - [Woman] Talk to you later, take care. 44 00:03:17,473 --> 00:03:19,302 - [Ken] Yeah. 45 00:03:19,337 --> 00:03:20,200 [windshield wiper whirring] 46 00:03:24,342 --> 00:03:26,930 [spooky music] 47 00:03:28,898 --> 00:03:31,590 I was cursed with the fact that I discovered 48 00:03:31,625 --> 00:03:34,041 that they are actually out there. 49 00:03:34,075 --> 00:03:37,078 I'd rather call it a curse than a blessing, really. 50 00:03:37,113 --> 00:03:38,908 Because once I know it's true, it's true. 51 00:03:38,942 --> 00:03:40,496 I can't change that. 52 00:03:40,530 --> 00:03:43,188 It's not like I'm going to knowand keep it a secret. 53 00:03:43,223 --> 00:03:46,640 No, I'm going to telleverybody exactly what I think. 54 00:03:46,674 --> 00:03:48,193 - When he's talking about Sasquatch, 55 00:03:48,228 --> 00:03:49,263 you'll learn from him. 56 00:03:49,298 --> 00:03:50,678 He doesn't make things up. 57 00:03:50,713 --> 00:03:52,922 He doesn't do this to be entertaining. 58 00:03:52,956 --> 00:03:54,924 He is totally obsessed with the subject 59 00:03:54,958 --> 00:03:56,891 and he knows his stuff. 60 00:03:58,065 --> 00:04:00,447 - I've moved beyond the controversy. 61 00:04:00,481 --> 00:04:03,381 I am convinced and I'm going to go one step further 62 00:04:03,415 --> 00:04:04,761 and build a model. 63 00:04:06,901 --> 00:04:08,731 Now they have this forward lean always 64 00:04:08,765 --> 00:04:11,699 this kind of a forward lean and to get it right 65 00:04:11,734 --> 00:04:12,976 is not that easy. 66 00:04:21,019 --> 00:04:23,953 [banjo strumming] 67 00:04:27,819 --> 00:04:32,168 At the time, I was actually making claymation movies 68 00:04:33,307 --> 00:04:35,205 and I got a book from the library on taxidermy 69 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:36,724 and it showed how to skin a bird. 70 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:38,278 And I didn't even think you could skin a bird. 71 00:04:38,312 --> 00:04:41,453 I just found it really fascinating. 72 00:04:41,488 --> 00:04:43,731 I was on a way over to my buddy's place. 73 00:04:43,766 --> 00:04:46,872 We were working on one of our 3-dimensional films 74 00:04:46,907 --> 00:04:51,498 and I saw an English Sparrow get hit by a car just, BOOM. 75 00:04:52,809 --> 00:04:55,812 So I raced over there, picked it up. 76 00:04:55,847 --> 00:04:57,849 Of course, it was dead. 77 00:04:57,883 --> 00:04:59,816 And instead of going to my buddy's place, 78 00:04:59,851 --> 00:05:01,508 I ran home and sat down 79 00:05:01,542 --> 00:05:04,200 and step by step took this bird apart 80 00:05:04,234 --> 00:05:08,273 and then step by step, put the bird back together. 81 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:11,932 And I was terribly pleased with the result, 82 00:05:11,966 --> 00:05:15,349 which was really, in hindsight, quite hideous. 83 00:05:15,384 --> 00:05:16,557 But there it was. 84 00:05:16,592 --> 00:05:19,146 It was standing on its own two feet again. 85 00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:22,770 And that's kind of how it started. 86 00:05:22,805 --> 00:05:25,428 - Well, Ken was always interested in animals. 87 00:05:25,463 --> 00:05:27,534 He was just a little guy walking around 88 00:05:27,568 --> 00:05:30,606 with a jar full of bugs all the time. 89 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,677 And he had to know what made them work. 90 00:05:32,711 --> 00:05:35,093 - He'd come to school and then at noon he had to run 91 00:05:35,127 --> 00:05:37,682 and check a trap up in a slough close by 92 00:05:37,716 --> 00:05:40,063 and he'd come back with a muskrat in his pocket. 93 00:05:40,098 --> 00:05:43,964 And then, of course, the class was on. [laughing] 94 00:05:43,998 --> 00:05:47,623 The teacher would have to send him outside with it. 95 00:05:47,657 --> 00:05:52,490 - Yeah, I guess I was a weird kid in a lot of ways, but... 96 00:05:54,112 --> 00:05:55,734 - We had to be very careful when we were kids 97 00:05:55,769 --> 00:05:58,219 as to what we unwrapped in the freezer 98 00:05:58,254 --> 00:06:00,360 because if it wasn't labeled, 99 00:06:00,394 --> 00:06:05,434 we could be unwrappinga muskrat or a hawk or a coyote. 100 00:06:06,331 --> 00:06:07,574 - My wife used to get upset. 101 00:06:07,608 --> 00:06:09,507 Sometimes she'd go to get a chicken out or something 102 00:06:09,541 --> 00:06:11,129 and she opened it up and it would be a hawk 103 00:06:11,163 --> 00:06:12,855 or something. [laughing] 104 00:06:12,889 --> 00:06:15,029 - I think I had an eagle in the freezer once 105 00:06:15,064 --> 00:06:17,411 and I think she thought it was a turkey 106 00:06:17,446 --> 00:06:19,240 and brought it upstairs to defrost 107 00:06:19,275 --> 00:06:20,828 and it was a bloody eagle. 108 00:06:20,863 --> 00:06:25,385 - He's banned from putting animals in my freezers now. 109 00:06:26,972 --> 00:06:30,700 - The life of Ken Walker's wife has been interesting. 110 00:06:30,735 --> 00:06:32,909 There's been a lot of challenges. 111 00:06:32,944 --> 00:06:35,705 When our children were younger,he did a lot of traveling, 112 00:06:35,740 --> 00:06:39,433 working in other people's shops, competitions, 113 00:06:39,468 --> 00:06:42,609 and of course money is always an issue. 114 00:06:42,643 --> 00:06:46,233 Yeah, he can sell a piece and make a big bundle of cash, 115 00:06:46,267 --> 00:06:49,443 but that's not something that happens weekly. 116 00:06:49,478 --> 00:06:51,928 Sometimes it doesn't even happen monthly. 117 00:06:51,963 --> 00:06:54,724 So it's been trying, 118 00:06:57,347 --> 00:07:00,109 it's been a bone of contention at times. 119 00:07:00,143 --> 00:07:01,662 - Hey, what do your parents do for work? 120 00:07:01,697 --> 00:07:05,114 And I say, "Oh my mom, she works in a bank," 121 00:07:05,148 --> 00:07:08,255 and then I say quietly, "My dad's a taxidermist." 122 00:07:08,289 --> 00:07:09,290 They're like, "A what? 123 00:07:09,325 --> 00:07:10,464 "He drives a taxi?" 124 00:07:10,499 --> 00:07:11,638 "No, he doesn't drive a taxi. 125 00:07:11,672 --> 00:07:14,503 "He mounts dead animals." 126 00:07:14,537 --> 00:07:17,471 I pull up on Google and show them what he does. 127 00:07:17,506 --> 00:07:20,440 The first thing that usually pops up is my tiger. 128 00:07:20,474 --> 00:07:23,822 - This is my tiger that I won my first Best of Show with. 129 00:07:23,857 --> 00:07:25,341 I gave it to my daughter, Chantelle. 130 00:07:25,375 --> 00:07:28,931 It's a cat that died from epilepsy in the zoo. 131 00:07:28,965 --> 00:07:30,657 I also have a snow leopard over here 132 00:07:30,691 --> 00:07:32,659 that I got from the same zoo. 133 00:07:32,693 --> 00:07:35,489 This one died of old age and I gave this to Patrick. 134 00:07:35,524 --> 00:07:38,250 This is Patrick's snow leopard. 135 00:07:38,285 --> 00:07:40,080 Each kid got a cat. 136 00:07:40,114 --> 00:07:44,222 - [Colette] Happy birthday, dear Patrick. 137 00:07:44,256 --> 00:07:47,190 - [Audience] Happy birthday to you. 138 00:07:49,261 --> 00:07:51,919 [kids shouting] 139 00:07:54,197 --> 00:07:55,578 - Daddy! - Daddy! 140 00:08:00,031 --> 00:08:01,515 - If I find out someone else's dad 141 00:08:01,550 --> 00:08:02,999 or parent is a taxidermist, 142 00:08:03,034 --> 00:08:06,520 and we automatically become friends 'cause we understand. 143 00:08:06,555 --> 00:08:09,868 As a kid waking up, going outside, 144 00:08:09,903 --> 00:08:11,974 maybe we'll have dead things laying in our yard. 145 00:08:12,008 --> 00:08:13,596 I'd have friends over and they'd come over 146 00:08:13,631 --> 00:08:14,839 and they'd look at it and they'd be like, 147 00:08:14,873 --> 00:08:17,600 "Why is there like a dead carcass in your yard." 148 00:08:17,635 --> 00:08:18,532 I'll have to explain. 149 00:08:18,567 --> 00:08:19,740 "Well, my dad's a taxidermist." 150 00:08:19,775 --> 00:08:20,983 That's kind of a usual thing for me. 151 00:08:21,017 --> 00:08:23,019 I don't really pay too much attention for it. 152 00:08:23,054 --> 00:08:24,400 And they're like, "Ugh." 153 00:08:24,434 --> 00:08:27,852 But that's just an average day for me. 154 00:08:29,681 --> 00:08:32,891 - Ken has always kept an open door. 155 00:08:32,926 --> 00:08:37,309 He is willing to teach anybody anything about taxidermy 156 00:08:37,344 --> 00:08:38,828 if they want to learn. 157 00:08:38,863 --> 00:08:43,523 - To me when somebody really looks up to you for winning 158 00:08:44,420 --> 00:08:46,249 and being a good taxidermist 159 00:08:46,284 --> 00:08:48,769 or even a great taxidermist in their eyes, 160 00:08:48,804 --> 00:08:51,807 too many people treat that as a celebration. 161 00:08:51,841 --> 00:08:53,602 And to me, it's not a celebration, 162 00:08:53,636 --> 00:08:55,017 it's a responsibility. 163 00:08:55,051 --> 00:08:56,328 What's the use of teaching somebody 164 00:08:56,363 --> 00:08:58,986 if they can't be better than you, eventually? 165 00:08:59,021 --> 00:09:01,368 - He had a young girl come up to him. 166 00:09:01,402 --> 00:09:04,336 She was about 14 years old at that time, 167 00:09:04,371 --> 00:09:06,097 big interest in taxidermy, 168 00:09:06,131 --> 00:09:09,031 which was amazing because there were no hunters 169 00:09:09,065 --> 00:09:11,965 or taxidermists in her family. 170 00:09:11,999 --> 00:09:16,176 And she met Ken and thought the absolute world of him, 171 00:09:16,210 --> 00:09:17,626 he was her idol. 172 00:09:17,660 --> 00:09:22,078 But Amy has become like a part of the family as well. 173 00:09:22,113 --> 00:09:25,116 We watched her grow up and get married 174 00:09:25,150 --> 00:09:26,600 and have her own children. 175 00:09:26,635 --> 00:09:29,223 [upbeat music] 176 00:09:52,592 --> 00:09:54,421 - My friend George Roof said, 177 00:09:54,455 --> 00:09:56,078 "I want you to meet someone really special." 178 00:09:56,112 --> 00:10:00,082 And he brought me over to Ken Walker and he told me, 179 00:10:00,116 --> 00:10:02,325 he's a mammal taxidermist too. 180 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,984 He's won Best in World in mammals 181 00:10:06,019 --> 00:10:09,229 and that's what he specializes in, 182 00:10:09,263 --> 00:10:12,750 which I was really interested in since I already knew 183 00:10:12,784 --> 00:10:14,821 that I didn't want to do birds or fish, 184 00:10:14,855 --> 00:10:17,962 I just wanted to specialize in mammals. 185 00:10:17,996 --> 00:10:21,517 So Ken just kind of took me under his wing. 186 00:10:21,551 --> 00:10:25,521 So, that was when our friendshipreally started really early 187 00:10:25,555 --> 00:10:26,867 on in my career. 188 00:10:28,179 --> 00:10:31,665 And following that, a few years later, 189 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:35,842 we were at a show and he invitedme up to Canada for a week. 190 00:10:35,876 --> 00:10:38,810 And prior to this, I had never even been on a plane. 191 00:10:38,845 --> 00:10:43,470 So it was a real adventure to go all the way up to Canada. 192 00:10:43,504 --> 00:10:46,507 It turns out that it's the perfect business for me. 193 00:10:46,542 --> 00:10:47,647 I enjoy it. 194 00:10:47,681 --> 00:10:49,372 I didn't have to go to college. 195 00:10:49,407 --> 00:10:51,651 I get to be a stay-at-home mom 196 00:10:51,685 --> 00:10:53,998 while also doing part-time taxidermy. 197 00:10:54,032 --> 00:10:56,897 So, really it was just meant to be. 198 00:11:00,901 --> 00:11:03,179 - Amy has a lot of raw talent, 199 00:11:03,214 --> 00:11:04,974 but I'm going to tell you straight up, 200 00:11:05,009 --> 00:11:08,426 ability is nothing unless you nurture it. 201 00:11:11,809 --> 00:11:15,882 In order to put the history of taxidermy into perspective, 202 00:11:15,916 --> 00:11:17,159 you have to go all the way back 203 00:11:17,193 --> 00:11:19,471 to when wildlife art itself was relevant. 204 00:11:19,506 --> 00:11:20,334 Okay? 205 00:11:21,301 --> 00:11:24,200 And that is as far back as we can go. 206 00:11:24,235 --> 00:11:26,651 We're talking about 30,000 year old cave paintings 207 00:11:26,686 --> 00:11:28,170 in France. 208 00:11:28,204 --> 00:11:30,551 The first thing we found people holding in reverence 209 00:11:30,586 --> 00:11:31,794 were animals. 210 00:11:31,829 --> 00:11:34,728 Things kind of like this Irish Elk or Megaloceros. 211 00:11:34,763 --> 00:11:36,799 These things have been extinct for 10,000 years 212 00:11:36,834 --> 00:11:39,457 and this is a form of anatomy preserved 213 00:11:39,491 --> 00:11:41,735 by somebody who's actually seen one. 214 00:11:41,770 --> 00:11:45,808 Here you have your very first example of wildlife art. 215 00:11:45,843 --> 00:11:47,672 - He has made animals, 216 00:11:47,707 --> 00:11:50,779 taxidermied animals that don't exist. 217 00:11:50,813 --> 00:11:54,058 He has made an Irish Elk that was fabulous. 218 00:11:54,092 --> 00:11:57,647 Saber-toothed tigers, he's done those. 219 00:11:57,682 --> 00:12:01,824 - He is one of those people who can dream something up 220 00:12:01,859 --> 00:12:04,275 and actually bring it to fruition. 221 00:12:04,309 --> 00:12:06,726 That's why his recreations have done so well, 222 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,350 like the panda that he won Best in World with. 223 00:12:10,384 --> 00:12:12,766 - I think of all Ken's recreation pieces, 224 00:12:12,801 --> 00:12:16,287 probably the panda is my favorite. 225 00:12:16,321 --> 00:12:17,840 It's just so realistic 226 00:12:17,875 --> 00:12:21,085 and you don't get to see those mounted. 227 00:12:21,119 --> 00:12:24,191 - When I won World Champion with that panda, 228 00:12:24,226 --> 00:12:25,468 I actually got a message 229 00:12:25,503 --> 00:12:28,161 from the Smithsonian congratulating me. 230 00:12:28,195 --> 00:12:29,783 And it was never lost on me. 231 00:12:29,818 --> 00:12:34,754 I felt really important to be representing the Smithsonian. 232 00:12:38,619 --> 00:12:41,277 The difference between conventional taxidermy 233 00:12:41,312 --> 00:12:45,005 and recreation taxidermy is that you basically, 234 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,801 in taxidermy are creating a form to fit a hide 235 00:12:47,836 --> 00:12:49,251 and in recreation taxidermy, 236 00:12:49,285 --> 00:12:52,323 you're creating a hide to fit an existing form. 237 00:12:52,357 --> 00:12:55,705 But you have to make the form as accurate as possible 238 00:12:55,740 --> 00:12:57,984 for the recreation animal and then you have to figure out 239 00:12:58,018 --> 00:13:01,263 what kind of hide will work best. 240 00:13:01,297 --> 00:13:03,541 It boils down to being almost the same thing 241 00:13:03,575 --> 00:13:04,749 when you look at it. 242 00:13:04,784 --> 00:13:05,992 It looks like taxidermy, 243 00:13:06,026 --> 00:13:09,685 it's just kind of done in reverse. 244 00:13:09,719 --> 00:13:10,928 I never realized taxidermy 245 00:13:10,962 --> 00:13:13,551 would lead me down this recreation road. 246 00:13:13,585 --> 00:13:16,416 Although as a child I would have been delighted to know 247 00:13:16,450 --> 00:13:18,073 that that's where it was gonna lead to, 248 00:13:18,107 --> 00:13:20,075 because I loved the prehistoric animals 249 00:13:20,109 --> 00:13:22,871 and seeing them alive again. 250 00:13:22,905 --> 00:13:27,289 When I was in grade three or four or something, 251 00:13:28,152 --> 00:13:30,775 I wrote a story about Big Foot. 252 00:13:31,845 --> 00:13:33,398 By Kenny, Big Foot. 253 00:13:34,606 --> 00:13:36,816 As I was out hunting and I came a horrible sight 254 00:13:36,850 --> 00:13:39,888 of a monster animal that resembled a human. 255 00:13:39,922 --> 00:13:44,099 It walked like a human and was completely covered by hair. 256 00:13:44,133 --> 00:13:47,412 Its eyes were sunken deeply into its head. 257 00:13:47,447 --> 00:13:49,380 The teeth in the animal were sharp 258 00:13:49,414 --> 00:13:52,521 and piercing fangs 3 inches long. 259 00:13:52,555 --> 00:13:55,420 His arms were to its knees and had a height 260 00:13:55,455 --> 00:13:57,112 of at least 15 feet. 261 00:13:58,527 --> 00:14:01,564 I had seen the Sasquatch. 262 00:14:03,739 --> 00:14:06,259 Dun, dun, dun, duh! 263 00:14:07,847 --> 00:14:09,883 I wanted it to be real. 264 00:14:09,918 --> 00:14:12,506 And then when I got older, 265 00:14:12,541 --> 00:14:16,648 I understood that since I know everything, 266 00:14:17,235 --> 00:14:19,928 I don't know about those, that it can't be real. 267 00:14:19,962 --> 00:14:23,276 'Cause that's how belief starts. 268 00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:25,278 I would have seen it by now 269 00:14:25,312 --> 00:14:30,076 or somebody else would've brought me one to skin by now. 270 00:14:30,110 --> 00:14:32,561 But then when I started coming across stories 271 00:14:32,595 --> 00:14:34,080 from people I knew, 272 00:14:34,114 --> 00:14:37,877 and I thought, "I'm going to look into this." 273 00:14:39,395 --> 00:14:41,811 [slow music] 274 00:14:48,163 --> 00:14:51,649 - The Patterson Gimlin film remains profoundly important 275 00:14:51,683 --> 00:14:55,687 and remains extraordinarily difficult to dismiss. 276 00:14:55,722 --> 00:14:57,862 It's undergone so many examinations 277 00:14:57,897 --> 00:15:01,348 by smart, well-equipped, capable, trained people. 278 00:15:01,383 --> 00:15:03,385 And when that occurs, they almost always come 279 00:15:03,419 --> 00:15:07,561 to the conclusion that they would not have been able 280 00:15:07,596 --> 00:15:12,049 to manufacture that themselves with the existing technology. 281 00:15:12,083 --> 00:15:14,189 When you see the rippling of the thigh muscles 282 00:15:14,223 --> 00:15:15,949 and when you see the heft of the breasts, 283 00:15:15,984 --> 00:15:18,987 one almost has to drop one's jaw and say, 284 00:15:19,021 --> 00:15:20,920 "Well, golly, maybe it's the real thing." 285 00:15:20,954 --> 00:15:23,370 And I still think it's probably 286 00:15:23,405 --> 00:15:27,064 our single most important piece of evidence. 287 00:15:28,099 --> 00:15:30,515 - I have every intention of building what you see 288 00:15:30,550 --> 00:15:34,140 in the Patterson frame, a female Sasquatch. 289 00:15:35,279 --> 00:15:36,936 I'm going to use this as a reference 290 00:15:36,970 --> 00:15:39,145 so it will be a female. 291 00:15:39,179 --> 00:15:40,560 It's what he filmed 292 00:15:40,594 --> 00:15:42,838 and it's what I'm going to build. 293 00:15:47,429 --> 00:15:50,501 Boy, when I get carving that styrofoam, boy, I make a mess. 294 00:15:50,535 --> 00:15:53,090 - [Man] Yeah. Beads everywhere 295 00:15:53,124 --> 00:15:54,781 - Oh, yeah. 296 00:15:54,815 --> 00:15:56,300 Then I use, I've got the files 297 00:15:56,334 --> 00:15:58,854 and the rasps and the shapers. 298 00:16:06,137 --> 00:16:07,035 Excellent. 299 00:16:07,069 --> 00:16:08,898 Oh yeah, I can see the arms already. 300 00:16:10,141 --> 00:16:12,109 Makes great bow targets. 301 00:16:12,143 --> 00:16:12,972 - Oh yeah. 302 00:16:22,291 --> 00:16:25,985 - We're looking at a muscle, that comes across here. 303 00:16:27,572 --> 00:16:31,852 Back of this leg is pretty, pretty much like this 304 00:16:31,887 --> 00:16:35,615 and then it comes out and cuts back. 305 00:16:36,547 --> 00:16:39,032 Okay, and then the front, same difference. 306 00:16:39,067 --> 00:16:41,000 It will come like this. 307 00:16:42,380 --> 00:16:43,588 You know I'm gonna tell you something. 308 00:16:43,623 --> 00:16:46,488 People who say this is somebody in a suit, 309 00:16:46,522 --> 00:16:48,179 they got a heck of a leg. 310 00:16:49,318 --> 00:16:51,562 It's funny because I templated a lot of animals 311 00:16:51,596 --> 00:16:55,566 for the Smithsonian like this from photographs. 312 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:56,774 It's not like I'm sitting here saying, 313 00:16:56,808 --> 00:16:59,259 "Whoa, I wonder if they look like this." 314 00:16:59,294 --> 00:17:02,262 I know from the picturesthat that's what they look like. 315 00:17:02,297 --> 00:17:04,713 'Cause I know from just my own investigations 316 00:17:04,747 --> 00:17:06,646 that these silly things are out there. 317 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,613 And I'm really looking forward one day 318 00:17:08,648 --> 00:17:11,651 to finding out how accurate this recreation was 319 00:17:11,685 --> 00:17:13,170 to the real thing. 320 00:17:14,343 --> 00:17:18,485 I haven't figured out an actual pose for this one, 321 00:17:19,935 --> 00:17:23,973 but I mean, everybody and their dog wants to do this, 322 00:17:25,768 --> 00:17:28,081 and I don't want to do this. 323 00:17:30,187 --> 00:17:31,878 If I carve out the legs and the arms, 324 00:17:31,912 --> 00:17:34,122 then I can set the legs up 325 00:17:34,156 --> 00:17:36,227 and then we can build a torso onto it 326 00:17:36,262 --> 00:17:38,367 and then attach the arms. 327 00:17:49,896 --> 00:17:50,759 Hello my baby. 328 00:17:50,793 --> 00:17:52,105 Hello my honey. 329 00:17:52,140 --> 00:17:53,969 Hello my ragtime gal. 330 00:17:54,003 --> 00:17:56,213 [laughing] 331 00:17:58,767 --> 00:18:00,493 Just like the old frog, eh? 332 00:18:01,356 --> 00:18:04,117 Everybody loves the Michigan Rag. 333 00:18:06,740 --> 00:18:11,055 There's lots of things that people will say. 334 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:12,919 I mean, there's a lot of peoplein the taxidermy industry 335 00:18:12,953 --> 00:18:15,991 think that I've lost my mind, 336 00:18:16,025 --> 00:18:17,786 which is fine. 337 00:18:17,820 --> 00:18:20,237 [slow music] 338 00:19:19,158 --> 00:19:22,022 I got my Roy Orbison box set with me. 339 00:19:22,057 --> 00:19:23,990 My Roy Orbison box set. 340 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,027 I've got some long screws in that, eh? 341 00:19:27,062 --> 00:19:28,132 - Here, yeah. 342 00:19:30,824 --> 00:19:33,689 - Oh, that's what I need to do.I need to fix that ear. 343 00:19:36,313 --> 00:19:38,280 So, I gave myself a 10-year goal 344 00:19:38,315 --> 00:19:39,695 to win a World Championship. 345 00:19:39,730 --> 00:19:41,628 In 10 years, I'm going to win. 346 00:19:41,663 --> 00:19:45,356 That was in 1999 when I first attended myself 347 00:19:45,391 --> 00:19:48,911 and I won World Champion first time there. 348 00:19:53,502 --> 00:19:54,607 Oh beautiful. 349 00:19:56,574 --> 00:19:59,301 It's like it never had eyes until you do this. 350 00:19:59,336 --> 00:20:04,341 - Ken Walker has that intangibleof natural artistic talent, 351 00:20:05,549 --> 00:20:07,827 but what has made Ken so successful 352 00:20:08,931 --> 00:20:11,313 is he not only has that talent, 353 00:20:11,348 --> 00:20:14,454 he has a strong desire and love for nature 354 00:20:14,489 --> 00:20:18,838 and he can see that with this artistic flair he has. 355 00:20:19,942 --> 00:20:21,772 - [Ken] I've won quite a bit of stuff, 356 00:20:21,806 --> 00:20:23,946 but I still think the day's going to come 357 00:20:23,981 --> 00:20:26,190 where I got respect from the new guys, 358 00:20:26,225 --> 00:20:28,572 but they'll all kick my butt real good 359 00:20:28,606 --> 00:20:30,470 and I always wonder when that's going to be, 360 00:20:30,505 --> 00:20:31,851 maybe this show. 361 00:20:33,024 --> 00:20:34,094 All right, we need a cart. 362 00:20:34,129 --> 00:20:35,613 - [Man] Okay, I'll go get it. 363 00:20:35,648 --> 00:20:38,237 [upbeat music] 364 00:20:46,106 --> 00:20:49,489 - [Ken] Never do a piece for a judge. 365 00:20:51,111 --> 00:20:54,736 If you start letting too many outside influences, 366 00:20:54,770 --> 00:20:57,221 the winning or losing aspect get in the way 367 00:20:57,256 --> 00:21:01,950 of what you decide you're going to do, you lose the art. 368 00:21:03,331 --> 00:21:07,369 - Lord, as we pursue our taxidermy and sculpture. 369 00:21:08,577 --> 00:21:11,994 Lord, we're confronted with your creation. 370 00:21:12,961 --> 00:21:16,827 Lord, we thank you for your creativity 371 00:21:17,172 --> 00:21:20,693 and we praise you for the diversity that you've created. 372 00:21:20,727 --> 00:21:23,972 Thank you for each person who'straveled so far to be here. 373 00:21:24,006 --> 00:21:26,664 And we pray that you give everyone a safe return home. 374 00:21:26,699 --> 00:21:28,770 Lord, we ask these things in Jesus name. 375 00:21:28,804 --> 00:21:29,633 Amen. 376 00:21:32,463 --> 00:21:35,086 - The medium small mammal category includes specimens 377 00:21:35,121 --> 00:21:38,469 under 50 pounds from the size of a coyote or smaller. 378 00:21:38,504 --> 00:21:41,092 The winner of the 3rd Best in World Medium Mammal 379 00:21:41,127 --> 00:21:44,441 is Carolyn Brak-Dolny at Frankford, Canada 380 00:21:44,475 --> 00:21:45,718 for her open mouth coyote. 381 00:21:45,752 --> 00:21:49,273 [audience applauding] 382 00:21:49,308 --> 00:21:53,795 - The winner of the 2nd Best in World Medium Mammal is 383 00:21:57,454 --> 00:22:01,078 Ken Walker of Alberta Beach, Canada with the Wallabies. 384 00:22:01,112 --> 00:22:04,253 [audience applauding] 385 00:22:09,086 --> 00:22:10,329 - I got second in the world with them. 386 00:22:10,363 --> 00:22:11,916 I scored really high, I almost won. 387 00:22:11,951 --> 00:22:14,367 I come very close to winning and second in the world 388 00:22:14,402 --> 00:22:15,748 is first on any other given day. 389 00:22:15,782 --> 00:22:16,990 So I mean, I did really good. 390 00:22:17,025 --> 00:22:20,580 If you get first, second or third in the world, 391 00:22:20,615 --> 00:22:21,857 I mean, you've done good. 392 00:22:21,892 --> 00:22:26,897 ♪ Only you can make all this world seem right ♪ 393 00:22:33,835 --> 00:22:38,495 ♪ Only you can make the darkness bright ♪ 394 00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:47,296 - I worked at a Boston Pizza in the city 395 00:22:47,331 --> 00:22:50,058 and they were having karaoke one night 396 00:22:50,092 --> 00:22:53,337 and I saw these two gentlemen and a woman walk in 397 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:55,304 and they sat at a table behind me and I said, 398 00:22:55,339 --> 00:22:56,133 "Hey, can you sing?" 399 00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:57,445 And he goes, "Yep." 400 00:22:57,479 --> 00:22:59,723 So you want to sing a song with me? And he said, "Yep." 401 00:22:59,757 --> 00:23:01,241 And so we sang all night long 402 00:23:01,276 --> 00:23:04,313 until about three in the morning. 403 00:23:04,348 --> 00:23:05,522 Hi, sweetheart. 404 00:23:10,803 --> 00:23:15,704 ♪ Your baby doesn't love you anymore ♪ 405 00:23:20,571 --> 00:23:25,300 ♪ Golden days before the end 406 00:23:25,334 --> 00:23:29,166 ♪ Whisper secrets to the wind 407 00:23:30,236 --> 00:23:32,549 For a long time, I wanted to go into music, 408 00:23:32,583 --> 00:23:36,553 and I never liked dealing with drunk people 409 00:23:36,587 --> 00:23:37,830 and I hate cigarette smoke. 410 00:23:37,864 --> 00:23:40,246 So working in the bars just wasn't an option. 411 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,697 So it became kind of a hobby. 412 00:23:45,251 --> 00:23:47,011 And for that outlet, I went to karaoke. 413 00:23:47,046 --> 00:23:49,876 And then at one point, I was hired by a group called 414 00:23:49,911 --> 00:23:52,879 Stars and Legends to do a Roy Orbison impersonation, 415 00:23:52,914 --> 00:23:55,226 which was kind of fun. 416 00:23:55,261 --> 00:23:57,746 - He's actually done a lot of performing 417 00:23:57,781 --> 00:24:01,060 in the Roy Orbison impersonation realm. 418 00:24:01,094 --> 00:24:02,855 He put on the sunglasses and the black suit 419 00:24:02,889 --> 00:24:06,721 and do this kind of stuff,but he can hit those high notes. 420 00:24:06,755 --> 00:24:08,101 - I could do a few songs pretty good 421 00:24:08,136 --> 00:24:09,275 and the people clap. 422 00:24:09,309 --> 00:24:12,209 But they're not really clapping for you, 423 00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:14,314 they're clapping for Roy. 424 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:19,458 I guess you could say karaoke is a bit like taxidermy 425 00:24:19,492 --> 00:24:21,701 in that you're recreating something. 426 00:24:21,736 --> 00:24:22,564 Everybody. 427 00:24:23,565 --> 00:24:26,499 ♪ Oh, pretty woman! 428 00:24:28,743 --> 00:24:31,918 [audience applauding] 429 00:24:39,823 --> 00:24:41,721 When a Sasquatch walks, 430 00:24:42,929 --> 00:24:45,345 because the shinbone is closer to the ground. 431 00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:48,210 Like the knee is closer to the ground and the foot is longer, 432 00:24:48,245 --> 00:24:51,800 it brings its foot up and forward like this 433 00:24:53,215 --> 00:24:55,597 in order to clear the ground. 434 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:14,064 Leaning onto this leg, this arm straight down. 435 00:25:14,098 --> 00:25:16,376 This one in and then a turn. 436 00:25:26,421 --> 00:25:29,976 And this is the other thing I find strange. 437 00:25:37,466 --> 00:25:40,055 [upbeat music] 438 00:26:32,763 --> 00:26:34,213 Okay. 439 00:26:34,247 --> 00:26:38,493 I think I figured out how I'm going to do this. 440 00:26:38,527 --> 00:26:41,461 I think I got it figured out. 441 00:26:41,496 --> 00:26:43,291 I was looking at the witness drawings 442 00:26:43,325 --> 00:26:45,949 and there was one witness drawing that I liked 443 00:26:45,983 --> 00:26:48,848 where the Sasquatch, when the person saw it, 444 00:26:48,883 --> 00:26:51,748 they looked up and the Sasquatchhad pulled some leaves back 445 00:26:51,782 --> 00:26:53,612 and was looking at the person, 446 00:26:53,646 --> 00:26:58,478 so I just decided to emulate that particular pose 447 00:26:58,513 --> 00:27:02,413 because it was based on an actual observation. 448 00:27:15,047 --> 00:27:17,566 [upbeat music] 449 00:27:41,383 --> 00:27:44,766 I know lots of very, very smart, successful people 450 00:27:44,801 --> 00:27:47,527 that refuse to talk about Sasquatches 451 00:27:47,562 --> 00:27:49,771 and they know all about them. 452 00:27:49,806 --> 00:27:52,291 - A lot of people will see one 453 00:27:52,325 --> 00:27:54,638 and then not want to talk about it 454 00:27:54,673 --> 00:27:55,812 because they will figure, 455 00:27:55,846 --> 00:27:58,573 well, they'll think I'm nuts or something. 456 00:27:58,607 --> 00:28:00,368 - Some people are afraid of sharks. 457 00:28:00,402 --> 00:28:02,232 Some people are afraid of spiders. 458 00:28:02,266 --> 00:28:05,062 Upstanding normal people 459 00:28:05,753 --> 00:28:07,651 are terrified of ridicule. 460 00:28:12,794 --> 00:28:14,727 - The first time that I got to talk to Ken 461 00:28:14,762 --> 00:28:18,213 about the Bigfoot sightings that I have personally had 462 00:28:18,248 --> 00:28:19,939 was such a relief. 463 00:28:19,974 --> 00:28:24,392 Knowing that I would not be ridiculed and looked upon 464 00:28:25,531 --> 00:28:27,775 as being kind of a crazy person or anything. 465 00:28:27,809 --> 00:28:29,984 I know bears, I grew up with bears. 466 00:28:30,018 --> 00:28:33,815 We used to chase little two year olds in the neighborhood. 467 00:28:33,850 --> 00:28:37,163 Standing bears, they drop their forearms 468 00:28:37,198 --> 00:28:39,718 and they have this huge long neck. 469 00:28:39,752 --> 00:28:42,651 They're more slender, they're more tubular. 470 00:28:42,686 --> 00:28:46,932 They have no shoulders, but with a Bigfoot sighting, 471 00:28:46,966 --> 00:28:50,142 they'll have the head, the crown of the head. 472 00:28:50,176 --> 00:28:52,523 They have almost no neck 473 00:28:52,558 --> 00:28:55,941 and they have broad shoulders and long arms. 474 00:28:55,975 --> 00:28:58,357 There is a huge difference between a standing bear 475 00:28:58,391 --> 00:28:59,910 and a Sasquatch. 476 00:28:59,945 --> 00:29:02,741 So I told him my stories. 477 00:29:02,775 --> 00:29:05,916 The first one was in Jasper and it was in November 478 00:29:05,951 --> 00:29:07,780 and it was during a winter storm. 479 00:29:07,815 --> 00:29:10,162 The second one was actually here in Hinton 480 00:29:10,196 --> 00:29:13,027 and it was down at the Ruby Falls. 481 00:29:15,857 --> 00:29:18,860 [quad bike revving] 482 00:29:21,829 --> 00:29:25,004 He was from about the waist up 483 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,248 and he was walking from the left to the right 484 00:29:27,282 --> 00:29:29,940 and he was a silverish color and 485 00:29:31,217 --> 00:29:34,082 with the sun behind us, it was really shiny. 486 00:29:34,117 --> 00:29:35,187 - Yeah. 487 00:29:35,221 --> 00:29:37,154 So many people see them and don't talk about it. 488 00:29:38,466 --> 00:29:40,675 - Yeah, I haven't really told anybody 489 00:29:40,709 --> 00:29:42,090 until I told you about it. 490 00:29:42,125 --> 00:29:46,370 - Yeah, I'm glad you did because I needed that account 491 00:29:46,405 --> 00:29:48,372 to add to the other ones in this area 492 00:29:48,407 --> 00:29:50,581 to prove they winter here. 493 00:29:51,997 --> 00:29:54,240 My whole thing was that if Sasquatches are out there, 494 00:29:54,275 --> 00:29:55,759 then hunters are seeing them. 495 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:57,519 The hunters aren't seeing them, they're not out there. 496 00:29:57,554 --> 00:29:59,314 Plain and simple. 497 00:29:59,349 --> 00:30:01,040 It turns out that, by God, 498 00:30:01,075 --> 00:30:03,422 the hunters are seeing them, not maybe. 499 00:30:03,456 --> 00:30:05,458 They're seeing them often. 500 00:30:05,493 --> 00:30:07,667 Probably talked to more people who've seen a Sasquatch 501 00:30:07,702 --> 00:30:10,187 than have seen a wolverine. 502 00:30:11,706 --> 00:30:13,742 You can usually tell by the type of person 503 00:30:13,777 --> 00:30:16,780 and the vast majority of hunters I talk to, 504 00:30:16,815 --> 00:30:18,817 no reason in the world to lie about that. 505 00:30:18,851 --> 00:30:19,748 As a matter of fact, 506 00:30:19,783 --> 00:30:20,680 they've got everything to lose 507 00:30:20,715 --> 00:30:23,580 by saying those kind of stories. 508 00:30:23,614 --> 00:30:24,719 When you go out camping, 509 00:30:24,753 --> 00:30:26,583 you wish there was no such thing as a Sasquatch. 510 00:30:26,617 --> 00:30:27,722 Do you know what I'm saying? 511 00:30:27,756 --> 00:30:32,209 You can see where people are going to have to reach 512 00:30:33,176 --> 00:30:35,695 to accept these forest people. 513 00:30:36,869 --> 00:30:38,250 That's not to say we're not ready. 514 00:30:38,284 --> 00:30:39,872 I think we are. 515 00:30:39,907 --> 00:30:41,563 I think we're ready. 516 00:30:42,633 --> 00:30:45,636 - Every language in the world has a word 517 00:30:45,671 --> 00:30:47,500 for Sasquatch or Yeti. 518 00:30:48,743 --> 00:30:53,058 Every civilization has reports of seeing 519 00:30:53,403 --> 00:30:55,750 this ape-like creature there. 520 00:30:55,784 --> 00:30:57,614 - I'm sure they exist. 521 00:30:57,648 --> 00:31:01,135 There's enough evidence now to know that they exist. 522 00:31:01,169 --> 00:31:02,515 They don't want to be found. 523 00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:03,931 They're trying to stay away from us 524 00:31:03,965 --> 00:31:05,725 and I don't blame them because people have a tendency 525 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,143 to kill things that they're afraid of or don't understand. 526 00:31:09,177 --> 00:31:12,422 - There's a lot of sightings, a lot of sightings. 527 00:31:12,456 --> 00:31:14,596 With that many sightings, you'd have to think that 528 00:31:14,631 --> 00:31:16,702 something's got to be out there. 529 00:31:16,736 --> 00:31:18,290 - I believe in Sasquatch. 530 00:31:18,324 --> 00:31:20,395 He's out there. 531 00:31:20,948 --> 00:31:23,674 - I would probably have to see more proof for myself. 532 00:31:23,709 --> 00:31:25,262 I'm not sure how I feel about it, 533 00:31:25,297 --> 00:31:28,507 but I love hearing him talk about it. 534 00:31:28,541 --> 00:31:30,095 - I don't see it. 535 00:31:30,129 --> 00:31:31,406 I don't see it. 536 00:31:33,339 --> 00:31:34,858 I need proof. 537 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:37,757 I need more proof than him bringing home a little baggie 538 00:31:37,792 --> 00:31:41,106 of dung from the bush [laughing] 539 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:43,315 - Of course, the one thing that I am looking for 540 00:31:43,349 --> 00:31:45,455 is evidence of Sasquatches. 541 00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:46,939 And I know it's out there. 542 00:31:46,974 --> 00:31:48,630 Well, I have it. 543 00:31:48,665 --> 00:31:53,394 Obviously, I have been looking for it so I have evidence. 544 00:31:54,395 --> 00:31:55,672 It's DNA evidence. 545 00:31:55,706 --> 00:31:57,225 It's basically... 546 00:31:58,261 --> 00:31:59,469 scat. 547 00:31:59,503 --> 00:32:02,403 This is where I keep it, right here. 548 00:32:02,437 --> 00:32:04,474 There it is, there it is. 549 00:32:05,682 --> 00:32:09,168 Sasquatch scat sample. 550 00:32:09,203 --> 00:32:10,480 People say, "What do you got in your freezer?" 551 00:32:10,514 --> 00:32:13,655 I got everything, even Sasquatch scat. 552 00:32:14,967 --> 00:32:19,213 This is the hand print there from a Sasquatch. 553 00:32:19,247 --> 00:32:22,250 So, basically I'm going off of that. 554 00:32:26,254 --> 00:32:27,807 Yes, yes, yes. 555 00:32:27,842 --> 00:32:29,844 Hand-wringing, yes, yes. 556 00:32:30,776 --> 00:32:32,743 Yes, yes. 557 00:32:36,816 --> 00:32:39,785 According to the measurements we have here, 558 00:32:39,819 --> 00:32:41,131 from the peak of the head 559 00:32:41,166 --> 00:32:44,100 to the bottom of the chin is 15 inches. 560 00:32:44,134 --> 00:32:47,966 So we're looking at this for a distance there. 561 00:32:49,139 --> 00:32:52,867 So 7.5 should take me right to the brow ridge. 562 00:32:52,901 --> 00:32:53,799 There we go. 563 00:32:53,833 --> 00:32:55,180 That's what we want to do. 564 00:32:55,214 --> 00:32:56,388 7.5. 565 00:32:56,422 --> 00:32:59,287 So the brow ridge actually starts here. 566 00:33:02,670 --> 00:33:04,672 The length of the head is the length of the foot 567 00:33:04,706 --> 00:33:07,433 on these guys and it goes five times 568 00:33:07,468 --> 00:33:09,608 into the height of the body. 569 00:33:37,601 --> 00:33:38,430 Creepy. 570 00:33:41,019 --> 00:33:43,607 [upbeat music] 571 00:33:52,582 --> 00:33:56,310 She's not gonna win Miss British Columbia, 572 00:34:01,142 --> 00:34:03,903 but for this model to be successful in my eyes 573 00:34:03,938 --> 00:34:06,320 is for somebody who has seen a Sasquatch, 574 00:34:06,354 --> 00:34:08,218 especially somebody who's had a good sighting. 575 00:34:08,253 --> 00:34:10,979 For somebody to be able to come over and say, 576 00:34:11,014 --> 00:34:13,741 "That is what I saw, that is it." 577 00:34:18,056 --> 00:34:21,024 What's going to be really weird is like, 578 00:34:21,059 --> 00:34:22,853 I'm making the Patterson creature, right? 579 00:34:22,888 --> 00:34:24,752 I've got to put boobs on it. 580 00:34:24,786 --> 00:34:26,616 And contrary to what people might think about me, 581 00:34:26,650 --> 00:34:29,136 I'm not looking forward to it. 582 00:34:30,758 --> 00:34:34,313 I don't think I can put any nipples on her. 583 00:34:35,797 --> 00:34:40,423 I will, after I get it home, I'm not for the World Show. 584 00:34:48,224 --> 00:34:50,467 I want it to really look good 585 00:34:50,502 --> 00:34:53,953 and I mean I've got some hurdles like what kind of hair 586 00:34:53,988 --> 00:34:56,646 and how I'm going to apply it and things like that. 587 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,993 I've got some major hurdles to overcome, 588 00:34:59,027 --> 00:35:00,339 but I'm thinking about it all the time. 589 00:35:00,374 --> 00:35:02,341 I've been thinking about it for years. 590 00:35:02,376 --> 00:35:05,206 So now all of this is culminating. 591 00:35:19,772 --> 00:35:21,326 The word stuff came from the fact 592 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,155 that they used to sew the animal skin up, 593 00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:25,916 and fill it with straw, sawdust and whatnot, 594 00:35:25,951 --> 00:35:28,264 and then push it back into shape. 595 00:35:28,298 --> 00:35:31,059 And I mean, the results were, for the most part, 596 00:35:31,094 --> 00:35:33,338 less than desirable. 597 00:35:33,372 --> 00:35:35,616 And then the guys like Carl Akeley came along 598 00:35:35,650 --> 00:35:38,584 and realized that you could do an anatomical sculpture 599 00:35:38,619 --> 00:35:40,828 by cleaning the bones, setting the skeleton up, 600 00:35:40,862 --> 00:35:43,693 using plasters and things like that to rough it in 601 00:35:43,727 --> 00:35:45,557 and then making production molds from that. 602 00:35:45,591 --> 00:35:47,973 They would make a mold in pieces 603 00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:50,182 that was easy to come apart. 604 00:35:50,217 --> 00:35:52,184 Build up laminated paper. 605 00:35:52,219 --> 00:35:53,668 That was the beginning. 606 00:35:53,703 --> 00:35:56,257 Of course, foam didn't come along until like the '70s, 607 00:35:56,292 --> 00:35:59,087 but you get the idea, it's a skin stretched over, 608 00:35:59,122 --> 00:36:02,021 an anatomically correct mannequin. 609 00:36:03,368 --> 00:36:05,163 Of course, putting all that care and attention 610 00:36:05,197 --> 00:36:08,200 and love into the anatomy resulted in the same care 611 00:36:08,235 --> 00:36:11,583 and attention going intorepresenting the proper behavior 612 00:36:11,617 --> 00:36:13,516 and lifestyle of these animals. 613 00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:14,793 To take it even further, 614 00:36:14,827 --> 00:36:17,761 they would plop these animals into habitats 615 00:36:17,796 --> 00:36:19,349 that were like their natural environment, 616 00:36:19,384 --> 00:36:20,626 whether it was Alaska, 617 00:36:20,661 --> 00:36:23,560 whether it was lions in the Savannah in Africa. 618 00:36:23,595 --> 00:36:25,528 It was such an amazing thing for back then 619 00:36:25,562 --> 00:36:27,254 that these people who created these things 620 00:36:27,288 --> 00:36:30,188 like Carl Akeley and Hornaday and Robert Rockwell, 621 00:36:30,222 --> 00:36:33,052 they were considered heroes at the time. 622 00:36:33,087 --> 00:36:37,298 It was without a doubt the golden age of taxidermy. 623 00:36:38,368 --> 00:36:42,061 In the 20th century, whereas people used to go to museums 624 00:36:42,096 --> 00:36:43,615 to connect with nature, 625 00:36:43,649 --> 00:36:46,721 suddenly the shift moved towards nature photography 626 00:36:46,756 --> 00:36:48,654 and documentaries on film 627 00:36:48,689 --> 00:36:51,243 that were shown in theaters and on television. 628 00:36:51,278 --> 00:36:52,727 And whereas taxidermists 629 00:36:52,762 --> 00:36:55,005 were once considered givers of life, 630 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,319 they became takers of life, or equated as such. 631 00:36:58,354 --> 00:36:59,838 Basically, the perception went 632 00:36:59,872 --> 00:37:04,739 from being a hero like James Audubon who was a taxidermist 633 00:37:05,568 --> 00:37:07,363 to Norman Bates from "Psycho," 634 00:37:07,397 --> 00:37:09,813 who was also portrayed as a taxidermist. 635 00:37:09,848 --> 00:37:13,472 And to this very day, taxidermists struggle 636 00:37:13,507 --> 00:37:16,613 in a lot of ways with that stereotype. 637 00:37:18,063 --> 00:37:20,962 [guitar strumming] 638 00:37:28,798 --> 00:37:31,490 I have to cast the ears. 639 00:37:31,525 --> 00:37:35,805 So I'm kind of thinking of going with gorilla ears. 640 00:37:38,670 --> 00:37:40,396 From the Smithsonian, 641 00:37:40,430 --> 00:37:44,434 that's the one we mounted, the female gorilla. 642 00:37:44,469 --> 00:37:46,919 My plan is to cast this ear, 643 00:37:48,058 --> 00:37:50,820 then to sculpt a reciprocal of this. 644 00:37:52,891 --> 00:37:54,064 Like most of the witnesses say, 645 00:37:54,099 --> 00:37:55,825 they don't see much ear 646 00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:58,414 and cold weather animals tend to have smaller ears 647 00:37:58,448 --> 00:38:00,692 than warm weather animals. 648 00:38:10,598 --> 00:38:12,393 It didn't take long after winning awards 649 00:38:12,428 --> 00:38:15,258 and things like that that the situation of being a judge 650 00:38:15,293 --> 00:38:16,397 was brought forward. 651 00:38:16,432 --> 00:38:18,882 Sooner or later they're going to ask you. 652 00:38:18,917 --> 00:38:21,471 [upbeat music] 653 00:38:39,696 --> 00:38:42,009 Okay, now, this score sheet 654 00:38:42,043 --> 00:38:45,184 is basically, it's into four parts. 655 00:38:45,219 --> 00:38:47,670 A composition, which is basically standing back 656 00:38:47,704 --> 00:38:50,155 and looking at the artistic merit of the piece 657 00:38:50,189 --> 00:38:52,364 and then we have the anatomical accuracy. 658 00:38:52,399 --> 00:38:55,850 So, they want to know whether the nose, the lips, the eyes, 659 00:38:55,885 --> 00:38:58,957 the musculature, etc., etc. is accurate. 660 00:38:58,991 --> 00:39:01,822 And then of course the painting,which means the finishing, 661 00:39:01,856 --> 00:39:03,996 putting the colors back into it. 662 00:39:04,031 --> 00:39:06,102 That's the last. 663 00:39:09,312 --> 00:39:11,383 - We're going to sort out this other stuff here real quick. 664 00:39:11,418 --> 00:39:13,005 We got a half hour. 665 00:39:14,282 --> 00:39:16,595 - Maybe we get the list, we can pick it. - I got it right here. 666 00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:17,803 - Oh you do. - Oh you got the list? 667 00:39:17,838 --> 00:39:20,185 - I got the list. - Let's do it then. 668 00:39:20,219 --> 00:39:22,360 - [Ken] We've got couple of the spots we're getting finished. 669 00:39:22,394 --> 00:39:25,052 - [Man] Nostril work is pretty good, too. 670 00:39:25,086 --> 00:39:26,778 - What's your best piece, Ken? 671 00:39:26,812 --> 00:39:27,986 - My best piece? - Yeah. 672 00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:29,401 - My high scoring piece is the squirrel. 673 00:39:29,436 --> 00:39:30,368 - Okay. 674 00:39:30,402 --> 00:39:31,714 - [Ken] My highest scoring large mammal 675 00:39:31,748 --> 00:39:34,095 is obviously the cougar. 676 00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:35,994 - [Man] You like it better than the squirrel? 677 00:39:36,028 --> 00:39:37,927 - Which one do you think is the best? - Yes. 678 00:39:37,961 --> 00:39:39,204 - It's up to you. 679 00:39:39,238 --> 00:39:41,275 - Well, listen, I ran a score sheet over either one of them. 680 00:39:41,309 --> 00:39:42,656 - Not the biggest, the best. 681 00:39:42,690 --> 00:39:44,036 - The one, it's, 682 00:39:47,833 --> 00:39:49,456 I don't know, the squirrel. 683 00:39:49,490 --> 00:39:51,354 The squirrel is the better piece of taxidermy. 684 00:39:51,389 --> 00:39:52,182 - Okay. 685 00:39:52,217 --> 00:39:54,771 [upbeat music] 686 00:40:05,092 --> 00:40:07,266 - And then your eyes area little on the small side too. 687 00:40:07,301 --> 00:40:08,198 It's really hard to do. 688 00:40:08,233 --> 00:40:09,683 - So, you mean open them up? 689 00:40:09,717 --> 00:40:11,788 - You need a bigger glass eye. 690 00:40:11,823 --> 00:40:13,480 This is what we call negative space 691 00:40:13,514 --> 00:40:14,964 when everything's empty here. 692 00:40:14,998 --> 00:40:17,518 I'd like to see that framed with even a little bush 693 00:40:17,553 --> 00:40:20,003 that kind of broke the outline of the coyote 694 00:40:20,038 --> 00:40:21,798 The critiques are very important, 695 00:40:21,833 --> 00:40:23,490 that people come and they hear what you have to say. 696 00:40:23,524 --> 00:40:24,698 And I always tell people, 697 00:40:24,732 --> 00:40:26,838 you might not get it for another two months. 698 00:40:26,872 --> 00:40:29,116 It might sink in a while later, 699 00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:31,256 but it's very rewarding to critique people's work 700 00:40:31,290 --> 00:40:33,361 and help them aspire to be better. 701 00:40:33,396 --> 00:40:36,537 [audience applauding] 702 00:40:40,576 --> 00:40:44,925 - Taxidermy is the most difficult art form 703 00:40:45,408 --> 00:40:47,790 that man has ever devised. 704 00:40:47,824 --> 00:40:49,170 - Even though it was like the original. 705 00:40:49,205 --> 00:40:50,724 - Right. - Yeah. 706 00:40:50,758 --> 00:40:53,416 - You have to be a sculptor, a painter, an impressionist, 707 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:54,486 all wrapped in one. 708 00:40:54,521 --> 00:40:55,729 - But you know... 709 00:40:55,763 --> 00:40:58,766 - And it's the only art form that has the perfect thing 710 00:40:58,801 --> 00:41:00,009 to compare it to. 711 00:41:00,043 --> 00:41:02,770 - That's right, but you know what the funniest part is? 712 00:41:02,805 --> 00:41:06,187 This is where everybody's thrown for a loop. 713 00:41:06,222 --> 00:41:07,292 Okay? 714 00:41:07,326 --> 00:41:09,467 It's all done by right-wingers 715 00:41:09,501 --> 00:41:11,158 who don't even believe in art 716 00:41:11,192 --> 00:41:14,161 and don't even know they're artists. 717 00:41:22,825 --> 00:41:24,827 Most of the people who've seen Sasquatch have said 718 00:41:24,861 --> 00:41:27,346 that they tend to have hair over fur. 719 00:41:27,381 --> 00:41:28,727 So, other than a whole bunch 720 00:41:28,762 --> 00:41:30,142 of little goat hides or something, 721 00:41:30,177 --> 00:41:31,765 I didn't really know what to use. 722 00:41:31,799 --> 00:41:33,456 And then I got the idea to go 723 00:41:33,491 --> 00:41:35,769 and check out some highland steers. 724 00:41:35,803 --> 00:41:37,218 I took one look at them and I knew 725 00:41:37,253 --> 00:41:38,668 that not only would the hair be right, 726 00:41:38,703 --> 00:41:41,533 but they would also be big enough. 727 00:41:46,227 --> 00:41:49,092 Obviously, the color is off until I color it. 728 00:41:49,127 --> 00:41:54,132 But that's one of the otherthings that has to be done here. 729 00:41:55,271 --> 00:41:57,066 This isn't an easy thing to do because, 730 00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:58,550 what's it gonna look like when it's done? 731 00:41:58,585 --> 00:42:01,311 Is it going to look like Snuffleupagus? 732 00:42:01,346 --> 00:42:02,520 This is one piece. 733 00:42:02,554 --> 00:42:05,799 Once I get this piece trimmed and on, 734 00:42:05,833 --> 00:42:09,354 and then I can move on to the question of the eyes. 735 00:42:09,388 --> 00:42:11,908 [upbeat music] 736 00:42:17,604 --> 00:42:20,814 - Glass eyes in the taxidermy industry, 737 00:42:20,848 --> 00:42:24,887 that's the central part of any mount. 738 00:42:25,819 --> 00:42:27,475 Where do you look for the expression? 739 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:28,925 You look into the eyes. 740 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,929 That's what tells you that that is a living piece of art 741 00:42:32,964 --> 00:42:35,725 as opposed to a still, stationary, 742 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,625 lifeless collection of parts. 743 00:42:38,659 --> 00:42:43,595 If the eyes are a high quality and if they're set properly, 744 00:42:43,630 --> 00:42:46,771 that's what brings the expression out. 745 00:42:47,979 --> 00:42:51,016 - I want to get that edgy look that, 746 00:42:51,051 --> 00:42:53,847 there's a difference between a dog and a wolf. 747 00:42:53,881 --> 00:42:55,538 A dog is hah, hah, hah. 748 00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:58,437 A wolf is like, just don't move too quick. 749 00:42:58,472 --> 00:42:59,611 They got that. 750 00:43:01,302 --> 00:43:02,510 That's what I have to do. 751 00:43:02,545 --> 00:43:04,823 I have to get the difference between a dog and a wolf. 752 00:43:04,858 --> 00:43:07,585 The difference between a person and a Sasquatch. 753 00:43:07,619 --> 00:43:10,001 It's going to be somewhat similar. 754 00:43:10,035 --> 00:43:11,416 - Today, we're going to be painting 755 00:43:11,450 --> 00:43:13,418 some eyes for Ken Walker 756 00:43:13,452 --> 00:43:16,179 for his Sasquatch project. 757 00:43:16,214 --> 00:43:20,494 A Sasquatch apparently is more of a primate, like we are. 758 00:43:20,528 --> 00:43:22,254 So we're going to want to select an eye 759 00:43:22,289 --> 00:43:24,187 that is appropriate for that. 760 00:43:24,222 --> 00:43:28,260 All of your primates and most binocular species, 761 00:43:28,295 --> 00:43:31,574 even the big cats will have this more bulbous shape 762 00:43:31,609 --> 00:43:33,783 and also round pupils. 763 00:43:33,818 --> 00:43:35,336 The other thing that we have to consider 764 00:43:35,371 --> 00:43:38,339 is glass clarity and quality. 765 00:43:38,374 --> 00:43:41,549 Bigfoot is supposed to have excellent vision 766 00:43:41,584 --> 00:43:46,071 and so he's going to have a fairly well-developed eye. 767 00:43:55,322 --> 00:43:56,634 - All right now. 768 00:43:57,945 --> 00:44:02,156 So I've got three pairs of the big ones, 769 00:44:02,191 --> 00:44:06,954 two pairs of the mediums and two pairs of the small ones. 770 00:44:09,439 --> 00:44:11,856 [slow music] 771 00:45:07,601 --> 00:45:10,535 I've talked to people who've looked at Sasquatches. 772 00:45:10,569 --> 00:45:11,812 One of the most common threads 773 00:45:11,847 --> 00:45:14,573 is that they look very intelligent. 774 00:45:14,608 --> 00:45:16,334 So I imagine like people, 775 00:45:16,368 --> 00:45:20,890 they are very expressive depending upon their moods. 776 00:45:20,925 --> 00:45:23,375 [slow music] 777 00:46:04,278 --> 00:46:07,799 The sightings in this area go over a lot of years. 778 00:46:07,834 --> 00:46:09,456 There's quite a few accounts 779 00:46:09,490 --> 00:46:10,802 that are on the different forums 780 00:46:10,837 --> 00:46:12,908 like Western Canadian Bigfoot forum, 781 00:46:12,942 --> 00:46:16,325 Alberta Bigfoot forum of sightings, 782 00:46:16,359 --> 00:46:19,362 mostly along the Forestry TrunkRoad, which is just up here. 783 00:46:22,296 --> 00:46:25,541 This place here is a little tucked away spot 784 00:46:25,575 --> 00:46:27,785 in Western Alberta in the foothills 785 00:46:27,819 --> 00:46:32,790 and this area has had a historyof sightings of Sasquatches. 786 00:46:33,514 --> 00:46:36,276 I've been coming out here and putting up cameras 787 00:46:36,310 --> 00:46:40,038 and just basically, just kind of hanging about 788 00:46:40,073 --> 00:46:42,972 and seeing if I can find something. 789 00:46:45,112 --> 00:46:48,219 They go out of their way, not to leave any trace. 790 00:46:48,253 --> 00:46:49,979 It's almost like their entire existence 791 00:46:50,014 --> 00:46:54,363 is based on being stealthy and not being discovered. 792 00:46:55,916 --> 00:46:58,436 This particular place right here 793 00:46:58,470 --> 00:47:01,163 is where I was first told to come here 794 00:47:01,197 --> 00:47:04,580 and look for forensic evidence of a Sasquatch 795 00:47:04,614 --> 00:47:08,791 because one had built a big bed here, also called a nest. 796 00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:12,243 And this was all, I mean it was a big mat of grass 797 00:47:12,277 --> 00:47:14,832 that was pulled and carried and all kinds of stuff. 798 00:47:14,866 --> 00:47:17,593 And it lived under this tree. 799 00:47:17,627 --> 00:47:20,458 And so I came in this, well, in March, 800 00:47:20,492 --> 00:47:21,631 there was still like a lot of snow 801 00:47:21,666 --> 00:47:23,910 and we took snow shovels and dug it up 802 00:47:23,944 --> 00:47:27,741 and filled up five bags of frozen scat, 803 00:47:27,775 --> 00:47:32,780 put it in a cooler in bags,collected it with our gloves on. 804 00:47:33,333 --> 00:47:35,680 And then I sent it into the Fish and Wildlife 805 00:47:35,714 --> 00:47:37,785 and they actually tested it. 806 00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:39,995 And it came back inconclusive in that they, 807 00:47:40,029 --> 00:47:42,135 and I thought that they didn't find DNA and the guy said, 808 00:47:42,169 --> 00:47:44,413 "No, we just don't know what it is." 809 00:47:44,447 --> 00:47:47,657 And he said, it's kind of the result that you want 810 00:47:47,692 --> 00:47:50,419 and told me that if there's, to put some away 811 00:47:50,453 --> 00:47:53,422 and if there's ever anything to compare it to, 812 00:47:53,456 --> 00:47:54,906 to bring it back out again. 813 00:47:54,941 --> 00:47:59,255 I have two bags of it left and you can still see the snow 814 00:47:59,290 --> 00:48:01,292 that I collected with it, 815 00:48:01,326 --> 00:48:06,090 but there it is: actual, real Sasquatch poop. 816 00:48:06,849 --> 00:48:08,092 It was frozen right away. 817 00:48:08,126 --> 00:48:09,507 And when I collected it, it was frozen 818 00:48:09,541 --> 00:48:11,095 and it has not been thawed. 819 00:48:11,129 --> 00:48:12,613 There it is. 820 00:48:12,648 --> 00:48:15,409 And there's two bags of itand it's the real deal because, 821 00:48:15,444 --> 00:48:16,894 I collected it myself. 822 00:48:16,928 --> 00:48:19,551 I saw the bed, I saw the nest that the Sasquatch built. 823 00:48:19,586 --> 00:48:21,001 It was very cool. 824 00:48:22,175 --> 00:48:23,901 And all the hunters that come through my shop, 825 00:48:23,935 --> 00:48:26,248 I ask them all to keep their eyes open. 826 00:48:26,282 --> 00:48:28,422 If you find anything,bring it to me, bring it to me, 827 00:48:28,457 --> 00:48:30,528 don't bring it to anybody else, bring it to me. 828 00:48:30,562 --> 00:48:32,633 So there's an army of people out there looking, 829 00:48:32,668 --> 00:48:35,360 and sooner or later somebody's going to bring me something. 830 00:48:35,395 --> 00:48:37,293 I've already had people call me back say, 831 00:48:37,328 --> 00:48:38,536 "Man, I thought you were crazy, 832 00:48:38,570 --> 00:48:39,951 "but you wouldn't believe what I saw. 833 00:48:39,986 --> 00:48:41,263 "You won't believe what I found." 834 00:48:41,297 --> 00:48:42,540 So it's working. 835 00:48:42,574 --> 00:48:46,233 And sooner or later somebody's going to come 836 00:48:47,407 --> 00:48:51,066 and they're gonna bring me what I'm looking for. 837 00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,483 One day somebody might just drive up with a dead one. 838 00:48:54,517 --> 00:48:55,967 Who knows? 839 00:48:56,002 --> 00:49:00,558 But in the meantime, I have Sasquatch scat in my freezer. 840 00:49:01,697 --> 00:49:03,975 There you have it, proof, 841 00:49:04,872 --> 00:49:07,185 for all the good it does me. 842 00:49:17,161 --> 00:49:21,268 One of the recurring themes of people with habituations, 843 00:49:21,303 --> 00:49:22,752 people in areas of activity 844 00:49:22,787 --> 00:49:25,755 is they kept showing these tree structures. 845 00:49:25,790 --> 00:49:28,413 People in Florida find them, people in Colorado, 846 00:49:28,448 --> 00:49:30,484 people in California, Washington, 847 00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:32,348 all the way up into Canada, Ontario, 848 00:49:32,383 --> 00:49:35,351 they find these tree structuresand I found the same thing 849 00:49:35,386 --> 00:49:38,561 that those people say they're finding. 850 00:49:40,529 --> 00:49:44,809 Obviously, they have meaning, but they look random. 851 00:49:46,259 --> 00:49:47,915 But once your eyes are trained to see them, you'll see them. 852 00:49:47,950 --> 00:49:49,124 They stand out. 853 00:49:49,158 --> 00:49:50,332 You see, they weave. 854 00:49:50,366 --> 00:49:52,334 They weave these together. 855 00:49:52,368 --> 00:49:54,888 I know how old some of this country is. 856 00:49:54,922 --> 00:49:56,510 It was only recently opened 857 00:49:56,545 --> 00:49:57,925 and a lot of these structures were made 858 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,205 before the country was even accessible. 859 00:50:07,659 --> 00:50:11,077 A lot of the Sasquatch habitat is being clear cut 860 00:50:11,111 --> 00:50:13,907 and being moved into by industry. 861 00:50:15,081 --> 00:50:17,221 - Everything is under pressure. 862 00:50:17,255 --> 00:50:21,156 Native cutthroat trout are on the verge of extirpation. 863 00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:25,022 Rocky Mountain goats,Woodland Caribou, Grizzly bears, 864 00:50:25,056 --> 00:50:29,888 wolves, all of those things are tenuous at the very best. 865 00:50:30,441 --> 00:50:34,721 Those are species that needbig spaces to live and survive. 866 00:50:36,619 --> 00:50:40,554 - If we were to protect big tracts of land 867 00:50:40,589 --> 00:50:44,386 that are imputed to have Bigfoot living on them 868 00:50:44,420 --> 00:50:46,077 and along with Bigfoot, 869 00:50:46,112 --> 00:50:49,425 all of the animals and plants that come under its umbrella. 870 00:50:49,460 --> 00:50:52,911 And if Bigfoot doesn'tactually exist, does it matter? 871 00:50:52,946 --> 00:50:54,706 Well, in a way, no, 872 00:50:54,741 --> 00:50:58,952 because we will have protected one of the grandest treasures 873 00:50:58,986 --> 00:51:00,988 the earth has ever had. 874 00:51:01,023 --> 00:51:05,200 On the other hand, if we were to so tame the land 875 00:51:05,234 --> 00:51:07,926 that we can no longer even imagine the possibility 876 00:51:07,961 --> 00:51:09,894 of wild apes out there, 877 00:51:09,928 --> 00:51:11,792 then we will have lost something deep, 878 00:51:11,827 --> 00:51:14,657 something profound and something irretrievable. 879 00:51:14,692 --> 00:51:16,107 - People don't know how to react 880 00:51:16,142 --> 00:51:18,627 to the natural environment anymore. 881 00:51:18,661 --> 00:51:21,630 They've been provided with so much technology. 882 00:51:21,664 --> 00:51:24,771 The natural environment feels foreign to them 883 00:51:24,805 --> 00:51:26,428 and they're not to blame. 884 00:51:26,462 --> 00:51:28,326 It's just the way things have evolved. 885 00:51:28,361 --> 00:51:32,572 But it's tragic for the wilderness because it means 886 00:51:32,606 --> 00:51:36,058 that if you don't understand it and have compassion for it, 887 00:51:36,093 --> 00:51:38,267 you don't care if somebody ruins it. 888 00:51:38,302 --> 00:51:42,202 And that's what we've beenseeing here big time in Alberta 889 00:51:42,237 --> 00:51:43,928 for decades now. 890 00:51:43,962 --> 00:51:47,207 Big business, big oil gets everything it wants. 891 00:51:47,242 --> 00:51:49,313 You can say whatever you want about it 892 00:51:49,347 --> 00:51:50,590 and why it shouldn't happen, 893 00:51:50,624 --> 00:51:53,144 why it's important to wildlife 894 00:51:53,179 --> 00:51:56,458 and those things compared to the billions of dollars 895 00:51:56,492 --> 00:51:59,771 of revenue that come from wells like this 896 00:51:59,806 --> 00:52:02,671 don't mean anything to our government. 897 00:52:02,705 --> 00:52:05,018 It doesn't matter that future generations 898 00:52:05,052 --> 00:52:08,504 will not know or have the most wonderful things 899 00:52:08,539 --> 00:52:09,919 we have on earth. 900 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,785 - A lot of environmentalists are urban, 901 00:52:13,820 --> 00:52:15,856 a lot of hunters are rural. 902 00:52:15,891 --> 00:52:18,894 There's a huge urban/rural divide. 903 00:52:18,928 --> 00:52:21,621 But it does seem sad to me and unnecessary 904 00:52:21,655 --> 00:52:25,142 that there should be this big schism between hunters 905 00:52:25,176 --> 00:52:26,902 and other conservationists that 906 00:52:26,936 --> 00:52:31,251 puts people at loggerheads who are natural colleagues, 907 00:52:31,286 --> 00:52:33,874 natural comrades for the greater good. 908 00:52:33,909 --> 00:52:37,292 - Hunters fear losing their opportunity 909 00:52:37,326 --> 00:52:39,397 to do hunting in the way they're doing it. 910 00:52:39,432 --> 00:52:43,298 They fear that, which is, that's reasonable. 911 00:52:43,332 --> 00:52:46,508 But what they don't see is that 912 00:52:46,542 --> 00:52:50,201 how much of the conservation community 913 00:52:50,236 --> 00:52:54,826 is trying to preserve thevery thing that they love and... 914 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,623 why they'd been at odds so much and so often 915 00:52:58,658 --> 00:53:00,384 is really beyond me. 916 00:53:00,418 --> 00:53:02,558 - We've come to a place in our world right now 917 00:53:02,593 --> 00:53:06,804 where we are so confrontationalabout ourselves versus them 918 00:53:06,838 --> 00:53:10,877 that we've even lost track of what we're even fighting for. 919 00:53:10,911 --> 00:53:14,708 Is it bad, bad, bad vibe out there now. 920 00:53:14,743 --> 00:53:17,815 And I really think that people need to step back, 921 00:53:17,849 --> 00:53:20,438 take a deep breath and learn how to get along 922 00:53:20,473 --> 00:53:23,200 and realize that we do really share all this stuff. 923 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,515 [fast strumming guitar music] 924 00:53:31,932 --> 00:53:32,933 And the thing is, 925 00:53:32,968 --> 00:53:35,764 they're there in the fossil record, too, 926 00:53:35,798 --> 00:53:39,043 which is pretty important to think about. 927 00:53:39,077 --> 00:53:42,736 That something that, maybe not is the same species 928 00:53:42,771 --> 00:53:45,360 but approached to be that size. 929 00:53:45,394 --> 00:53:48,017 There is a 10-foot tall hominid 930 00:53:49,709 --> 00:53:52,953 and they found teeth and they found a jaw bone 931 00:53:52,988 --> 00:53:54,231 and that's it. 932 00:53:54,265 --> 00:53:56,888 So finding fossils of Gigantopithecus 933 00:53:57,993 --> 00:54:01,376 is an amazing scientific accomplishment, 934 00:54:03,101 --> 00:54:05,000 which is actually quite a feat considering 935 00:54:05,034 --> 00:54:08,106 they've never found a fossil of a chimpanzee or a gorilla 936 00:54:08,141 --> 00:54:09,280 in history. 937 00:54:09,315 --> 00:54:10,143 Never. 938 00:54:11,282 --> 00:54:14,320 Even though I'm not convinced that Sasquatch 939 00:54:14,354 --> 00:54:15,942 is Gigantopithecus. 940 00:54:15,976 --> 00:54:17,806 Gigantopithecus is extremely relevant 941 00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,051 because it shows that there is the evolutionary trait 942 00:54:22,086 --> 00:54:24,916 for a primate to attain that size. 943 00:54:27,333 --> 00:54:30,301 I'm positive the proof already exists. 944 00:54:30,336 --> 00:54:32,476 I know there's somebody out there that has something. 945 00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:37,343 I know for a fact, and I'mjust waiting till I can get it. 946 00:54:41,278 --> 00:54:42,451 There might be somebody one day 947 00:54:42,486 --> 00:54:45,109 that walks up and sees that model 948 00:54:46,352 --> 00:54:49,562 and decides to give me what's in his freezer. 949 00:54:49,596 --> 00:54:51,874 That is my ultimate goal. 950 00:54:51,909 --> 00:54:53,980 That is my ultimate goal. 951 00:55:08,443 --> 00:55:12,792 As much as I don't like to share personal details 952 00:55:12,826 --> 00:55:15,484 of a relationship like the one we have, 953 00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:17,831 the fact has to be addressed 954 00:55:17,866 --> 00:55:22,871 that we ended up living separatelives in the same house. 955 00:55:23,389 --> 00:55:25,287 I couldn't seemto make her happy at times 956 00:55:25,322 --> 00:55:28,428 and that's always weighed heavily on me. 957 00:55:28,463 --> 00:55:31,328 I feel like I failed in that respect 958 00:55:31,362 --> 00:55:35,815 and she had to be lonely and I know I was lonely. 959 00:55:35,849 --> 00:55:40,854 It's a very difficult thing to be lonely in your own home. 960 00:55:41,579 --> 00:55:43,132 It looks all right. 961 00:55:43,167 --> 00:55:45,480 It seems to look all right, eh? 962 00:55:52,625 --> 00:55:55,075 [slow music] 963 00:56:47,542 --> 00:56:50,993 [dramatic strings music, the theme from "Psycho"] 964 00:56:52,270 --> 00:56:54,100 You know what? 965 00:56:54,134 --> 00:56:55,929 Now I like it. 966 00:56:55,964 --> 00:56:59,070 Well, I can't see it when it's the wrong color. 967 00:56:59,105 --> 00:57:00,106 I can see the expression. 968 00:57:00,140 --> 00:57:02,211 It seems to be thinking. 969 00:57:04,041 --> 00:57:08,390 I still need to put it in front of a witness though. 970 00:57:15,811 --> 00:57:18,538 [shaver buzzing] 971 00:57:41,665 --> 00:57:44,115 [slow music] 972 00:58:23,741 --> 00:58:25,536 Amy's up here in Canada now, 973 00:58:25,571 --> 00:58:27,262 and I had actually planned this trip 974 00:58:27,296 --> 00:58:29,298 for her a long time ago. 975 00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:32,025 In my wildest dreams, 976 00:58:32,060 --> 00:58:35,615 I couldn't have foreseen what would happen. 977 00:58:36,823 --> 00:58:40,171 - I knew that at some pointI wanted to tell Ken how I felt 978 00:58:40,206 --> 00:58:42,760 and I had some feelings for him 979 00:58:42,795 --> 00:58:45,314 that were more than just friends 980 00:58:45,349 --> 00:58:47,316 and I didn't know how he'd react to that. 981 00:58:47,351 --> 00:58:52,356 And I basically end up one nightprofessing all these things 982 00:58:53,737 --> 00:58:55,290 to him and... 983 00:58:56,567 --> 00:58:58,845 it turns out that he felt the same way. 984 00:58:59,708 --> 00:59:00,951 It's pretty down there. 985 00:59:00,985 --> 00:59:02,159 - It is pretty. 986 00:59:02,193 --> 00:59:04,057 I have lots of times I've seen bears. 987 00:59:04,092 --> 00:59:05,645 Like they come just over the top and they'll be 988 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,751 right at the very bottom. 989 00:59:11,271 --> 00:59:14,412 Now, just take your time, take your time. 990 00:59:14,447 --> 00:59:15,413 Now, you pick your spot. 991 00:59:15,448 --> 00:59:17,415 - Okay. - Oh, just wait. 992 00:59:17,450 --> 00:59:19,314 - Tell me when. 993 00:59:19,348 --> 00:59:20,349 Oh, crap 994 00:59:21,316 --> 00:59:22,110 - No, you can't. 995 00:59:22,144 --> 00:59:22,973 - I know. 996 00:59:24,975 --> 00:59:27,149 I had to be the first one to put it out there. 997 00:59:27,184 --> 00:59:30,877 Otherwise, I think just out of respect, 998 00:59:30,912 --> 00:59:32,499 he would have held it in. 999 00:59:32,534 --> 00:59:36,607 - I would have never done or said anything to Amy 1000 00:59:38,540 --> 00:59:42,199 to ruin the friendship that we have 1001 00:59:42,233 --> 00:59:45,236 because that's what I have with her. 1002 00:59:48,723 --> 00:59:51,760 Nuts, nuts, nuts, nuts. - Damn, I'm tired. 1003 00:59:51,795 --> 00:59:53,106 Okay. 1004 00:59:53,141 --> 00:59:55,453 I didn't have a chance. 1005 00:59:55,488 --> 00:59:56,869 - We're keeping this a secret. 1006 00:59:56,903 --> 01:00:01,080 We're basically trying tofigure out what to do about it. 1007 01:00:01,114 --> 01:00:04,186 I know we want to be together. 1008 01:00:06,603 --> 01:00:08,018 - [Amy] I love you, buddy. 1009 01:00:08,052 --> 01:00:09,295 - [Ken] Hmm? - [Amy] I love you. 1010 01:00:09,329 --> 01:00:11,711 - [Ken] I love you too, babe. 1011 01:00:12,574 --> 01:00:14,541 - [Amy] There's a dead mouse. 1012 01:00:14,576 --> 01:00:15,750 - [Ken] Oh. 1013 01:00:15,784 --> 01:00:16,440 - [Amy] Or something. - [Ken] That's a shrew. 1014 01:00:16,474 --> 01:00:17,372 - [Amy] Oh yeah? 1015 01:00:17,406 --> 01:00:19,132 - [Ken] Yeah, tiny little shrew. 1016 01:00:30,627 --> 01:00:34,285 [slow music] 1017 01:00:59,483 --> 01:01:00,415 - [Ken] Hey, Daniel! 1018 01:01:00,449 --> 01:01:02,003 - [Daniel] How are you doing? 1019 01:01:02,037 --> 01:01:04,522 - [Ken] Good, hey, can you grab the door there? Grab a foot or something. 1020 01:01:04,557 --> 01:01:05,489 Where is it? 1021 01:01:05,523 --> 01:01:06,663 Where are we setting it up? 1022 01:01:09,907 --> 01:01:12,565 Are we setting it up right here? 1023 01:01:26,855 --> 01:01:29,858 - I got a call from the New York Times. 1024 01:01:29,893 --> 01:01:31,618 The first thing they asked was, 1025 01:01:31,653 --> 01:01:33,655 have you seen the Sasquatch yet 1026 01:01:33,690 --> 01:01:36,727 and could we interview Ken Walker? 1027 01:01:36,762 --> 01:01:40,627 I got a call from the Springfield Enterprise 1028 01:01:40,662 --> 01:01:43,561 and two days later the headline was, 1029 01:01:43,596 --> 01:01:45,943 Sasquatch is Coming to Springfield. 1030 01:01:45,978 --> 01:01:48,566 [upbeat music] 1031 01:02:24,879 --> 01:02:26,673 - I mean, sure, it's getting some laughs, 1032 01:02:26,708 --> 01:02:29,780 and there's a lot of people that don't believe in it. 1033 01:02:29,815 --> 01:02:32,162 So you have that part of it. 1034 01:02:33,197 --> 01:02:35,130 - [Ken] She was standingup there getting a sun tan. 1035 01:02:35,165 --> 01:02:36,407 When you think of a Sasquatch, 1036 01:02:36,442 --> 01:02:37,926 you think of something moving in the shadows, 1037 01:02:37,961 --> 01:02:39,790 which is exactly what they are. 1038 01:02:39,825 --> 01:02:41,861 I think that the effect would have been tenfold 1039 01:02:41,896 --> 01:02:43,518 if they would've put it somewhere in a corner 1040 01:02:43,552 --> 01:02:45,451 where it was dark. 1041 01:02:45,485 --> 01:02:48,005 - Amy and I, we came down here together 1042 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,560 and we snuck in here last night 'cause I couldn't wait. 1043 01:02:51,595 --> 01:02:52,803 I couldn't wait to see it. 1044 01:02:52,838 --> 01:02:54,149 Seeing it for the first time 1045 01:02:54,184 --> 01:02:56,496 and seeing it kind of in the shadows 1046 01:02:56,531 --> 01:02:58,429 'cause it was kind of dark in here and everything. 1047 01:02:58,464 --> 01:03:02,640 It was like, yeah, it's pretty much exactly what I saw. 1048 01:03:02,675 --> 01:03:05,643 - Where did you see the Sasquatch at? 1049 01:03:05,678 --> 01:03:06,886 - The one that I saw? - Yeah. 1050 01:03:06,921 --> 01:03:08,232 - It was in Alberta, Canada. 1051 01:03:08,267 --> 01:03:09,889 - Okay. - Yeah. 1052 01:03:09,924 --> 01:03:13,099 It was in Western Alberta in a place called Swan Hills. 1053 01:03:13,134 --> 01:03:14,687 - Were you a believer before then or? 1054 01:03:14,721 --> 01:03:15,964 - When I saw it, I wasn't a believer. 1055 01:03:15,999 --> 01:03:17,759 And even after I saw it, I wasn't a believer. 1056 01:03:17,794 --> 01:03:22,143 I wasn't a believer until I started talking to people 1057 01:03:22,177 --> 01:03:23,661 that I knew weren't lying to me 1058 01:03:23,696 --> 01:03:25,491 and went out and looked for myself 1059 01:03:25,525 --> 01:03:27,113 and investigated a lot of stuff 1060 01:03:27,148 --> 01:03:29,253 and basically found out where they were. 1061 01:03:29,288 --> 01:03:32,498 Found reports, found the tree structures they make, 1062 01:03:32,532 --> 01:03:34,086 had them follow me. 1063 01:03:35,294 --> 01:03:37,848 And basically network with dozens of people 1064 01:03:37,883 --> 01:03:40,161 who have seen them. 1065 01:03:40,195 --> 01:03:42,680 When respected people in the industry walked up to it 1066 01:03:42,715 --> 01:03:44,855 and said, "I saw one of those, and that's what I saw," 1067 01:03:44,890 --> 01:03:47,099 that made all the difference in the world to me. 1068 01:03:47,133 --> 01:03:48,894 There were a number of people that stood 1069 01:03:48,928 --> 01:03:50,171 in front of that model and says, 1070 01:03:50,205 --> 01:03:52,794 "Yeah, I've seen one of those." 1071 01:03:54,313 --> 01:03:55,797 I didn't do it any different 1072 01:03:55,832 --> 01:03:57,350 than I would any other recreation. 1073 01:03:57,385 --> 01:03:59,352 Except for a set of skeletal remains, of course, 1074 01:03:59,387 --> 01:04:01,872 I used photographs from the Patterson footage. 1075 01:04:01,907 --> 01:04:04,185 I didn't embellish it in any way. 1076 01:04:04,219 --> 01:04:06,601 I basically tried to get as close 1077 01:04:06,635 --> 01:04:09,155 to what was in that film as possible. 1078 01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:11,330 There were a few things like the hair length, 1079 01:04:11,364 --> 01:04:14,816 but it actually was done the same way 1080 01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:17,129 I would have done my Panda or Megaloceros 1081 01:04:17,163 --> 01:04:19,614 or any of the other projects. 1082 01:04:19,648 --> 01:04:21,650 - He was hoping possibly he could enter it 1083 01:04:21,685 --> 01:04:25,827 into recreation division, but we got together the committee 1084 01:04:25,862 --> 01:04:28,002 that handles questions and concerns 1085 01:04:28,036 --> 01:04:31,350 about entry into the show and it was decided 1086 01:04:31,384 --> 01:04:34,456 that the Sasquatch would not be eligible 1087 01:04:34,491 --> 01:04:35,975 for the recreation, 1088 01:04:36,010 --> 01:04:39,910 simply because it has not been scientifically named 1089 01:04:39,945 --> 01:04:41,808 and classified. 1090 01:04:42,326 --> 01:04:44,984 So that left the option of him entering 1091 01:04:45,019 --> 01:04:47,469 our new Interpretive Division. 1092 01:04:47,504 --> 01:04:51,922 It's a new division that we started at the last World Show 1093 01:04:51,957 --> 01:04:53,406 and I love it. 1094 01:04:53,441 --> 01:04:57,307 It has taken off some very creative pieces in it. 1095 01:04:58,825 --> 01:05:00,793 - [Ken] It has to go in with all the art stuff. 1096 01:05:00,827 --> 01:05:04,003 So how's it going to do against art? 1097 01:05:04,038 --> 01:05:07,179 It will be there for people to look at. 1098 01:05:07,213 --> 01:05:10,561 And that's kind of how it's going to be. 1099 01:05:10,596 --> 01:05:14,600 It's not there to win anything, that's for sure. 1100 01:05:15,981 --> 01:05:18,984 - I wasn't expecting it to look so realistic in the eyes. 1101 01:05:19,018 --> 01:05:22,194 It really has a lot ofhuman-like emotion in its face. 1102 01:05:22,228 --> 01:05:24,127 So I think I did expect it 1103 01:05:24,161 --> 01:05:26,646 to be a little bit more scary looking, 1104 01:05:26,681 --> 01:05:29,753 but she really looks tender and kind. 1105 01:05:31,789 --> 01:05:34,447 - I'm happy with the eyes and that was the main thing. 1106 01:05:34,482 --> 01:05:36,553 In the words of a witness I spoke to, 1107 01:05:36,587 --> 01:05:40,005 he said it looked intelligent and the eyes looked soft. 1108 01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:43,940 Those are his direct wordsand that is what I wanted to do. 1109 01:05:43,974 --> 01:05:45,320 Not scary, 1110 01:05:45,355 --> 01:05:47,426 intelligent and soft. 1111 01:05:51,085 --> 01:05:52,258 - What's the first thing you think of 1112 01:05:52,293 --> 01:05:53,777 when somebody says Bigfoot? 1113 01:05:53,811 --> 01:05:55,330 Oh, big. Scary. 1114 01:05:55,365 --> 01:05:57,781 Put the fear of God into you. 1115 01:05:57,815 --> 01:05:58,644 Monster. 1116 01:06:00,577 --> 01:06:04,236 And I think the more that Ken worked on it, 1117 01:06:05,582 --> 01:06:10,104 the more he just grew to love it. 1118 01:06:11,484 --> 01:06:15,247 So, it's not a monster anymore to him. 1119 01:06:15,799 --> 01:06:17,628 It's a friend. 1120 01:06:17,835 --> 01:06:20,217 [slow music] 1121 01:07:11,855 --> 01:07:15,307 - Now, I will explain the Best in the World Awards. 1122 01:07:15,341 --> 01:07:18,482 Winning a Best in World title 1123 01:07:18,517 --> 01:07:21,968 is the crowning achievement for success in our industry. 1124 01:07:22,003 --> 01:07:24,764 The new world champions that are crowned tonight 1125 01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:27,388 will accomplish something they can truly be proud of, 1126 01:07:27,422 --> 01:07:30,701 not only today, but years from now. 1127 01:07:30,736 --> 01:07:33,394 - The winner of Interpretive Division 2015, 1128 01:07:33,428 --> 01:07:34,843 Best of Division, 1129 01:07:36,845 --> 01:07:39,710 Don Frank, Smithville, Missouri, Redfish. 1130 01:07:39,745 --> 01:07:43,024 [audience applauding] 1131 01:07:59,868 --> 01:08:01,387 - You want to play something? 1132 01:08:01,422 --> 01:08:02,216 - I could try. 1133 01:08:02,250 --> 01:08:03,079 - Yeah, there you go. 1134 01:08:03,113 --> 01:08:04,666 - Thanks for playing. 1135 01:08:04,701 --> 01:08:08,567 I played with you a littlebit the other night.- [Man] Yeah, that was fun, too. 1136 01:08:14,573 --> 01:08:16,333 - [Ken] If we were up to our own devices 1137 01:08:16,368 --> 01:08:19,509 and we could do whatever we wanted, it would be easy. 1138 01:08:19,543 --> 01:08:21,097 It would be so simple. 1139 01:08:21,131 --> 01:08:23,202 But it's not that simple. 1140 01:08:24,203 --> 01:08:25,653 It's not just us. 1141 01:08:27,103 --> 01:08:28,759 - [Amy] My kids are the ones that I'm mainly worried about, 1142 01:08:28,794 --> 01:08:33,419 but I don't agree with marriages staying together 1143 01:08:34,420 --> 01:08:36,767 just so you can get thekids grown and then split. 1144 01:08:36,802 --> 01:08:38,286 You've wasted a lot of years of your life 1145 01:08:38,321 --> 01:08:40,599 that way living unhappily. 1146 01:08:40,633 --> 01:08:43,567 It's gonna to be hard to see my husband hurt like that. 1147 01:08:43,602 --> 01:08:45,845 I mean, I don't hate him. 1148 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,606 Obviously, I care about him. 1149 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,746 How can you not care about somebody you've been 1150 01:08:49,780 --> 01:08:51,057 with that long? 1151 01:08:52,818 --> 01:08:54,475 It's gonna hurt, but 1152 01:08:57,892 --> 01:09:00,515 I must make a choice, and I, 1153 01:09:00,550 --> 01:09:03,311 boy, have I gone over it a million times. 1154 01:09:03,346 --> 01:09:07,281 And I'm going with what's in my heart. 1155 01:09:07,315 --> 01:09:09,559 He is my best friend, always has been 1156 01:09:09,593 --> 01:09:11,147 and I've always had to be careful not 1157 01:09:11,181 --> 01:09:14,322 to call him my best friend because 1158 01:09:14,357 --> 01:09:16,324 somebody you're not married to isn't really supposed 1159 01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:18,119 to be your best friend. 1160 01:09:18,154 --> 01:09:19,776 Are they? 1161 01:09:19,810 --> 01:09:22,606 Just hurts to think this time tomorrow I'll 1162 01:09:22,641 --> 01:09:24,643 have just stepped off that plane. 1163 01:09:26,403 --> 01:09:28,819 - It's gonna be hard to see you get on that plane, but you'll be okay. 1164 01:09:28,854 --> 01:09:29,855 You'll be fine. 1165 01:09:29,889 --> 01:09:32,098 You'll be fine, it'll be good. 1166 01:09:32,133 --> 01:09:34,722 [somber music] 1167 01:09:49,254 --> 01:09:52,153 So I took Amy to the airport early this morning 1168 01:09:52,188 --> 01:09:54,604 to go back to North Carolina. 1169 01:09:56,261 --> 01:10:00,541 Yeah, it was really difficult to see her go. 1170 01:10:00,575 --> 01:10:03,095 It's just really, really hard. 1171 01:10:04,061 --> 01:10:05,477 We'll see what happens. 1172 01:10:05,511 --> 01:10:08,445 But as long as, just as long as she's safe and happy, 1173 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:10,723 that's all I can wish for. 1174 01:10:10,758 --> 01:10:13,761 If I really care about her, if I really, really care, 1175 01:10:13,795 --> 01:10:16,591 like I say I do, then... 1176 01:10:19,215 --> 01:10:21,872 whether it benefits me or not, 1177 01:10:22,356 --> 01:10:24,012 I want the best for her. 1178 01:10:24,047 --> 01:10:25,876 And that's how it has to be. 1179 01:10:25,911 --> 01:10:29,017 Otherwise, people aren't possessions. 1180 01:10:31,261 --> 01:10:32,676 If you really love them, 1181 01:10:32,711 --> 01:10:36,266 you want them to be happy one way or the other. 1182 01:10:37,233 --> 01:10:39,787 [somber music] 1183 01:10:50,867 --> 01:10:54,250 When Amy got home, she was terrified. 1184 01:10:54,284 --> 01:10:57,183 She was so afraid and she was very tired. 1185 01:10:57,218 --> 01:11:00,014 And then I got a phone call. 1186 01:11:00,048 --> 01:11:05,088 And the phone call basically said, "I've changed my mind." 1187 01:11:06,020 --> 01:11:08,471 It didn't even sound like her. It sounded weird. 1188 01:11:08,505 --> 01:11:10,196 She just sounded weird. 1189 01:11:10,231 --> 01:11:14,097 And she says, "Well, I'm going to go back and 1190 01:11:14,131 --> 01:11:15,305 "be with my family." 1191 01:11:15,340 --> 01:11:16,962 And then she basically said, 1192 01:11:16,996 --> 01:11:19,896 "Oh, we might see each other at shows," 1193 01:11:19,930 --> 01:11:23,417 but it's not the cause of the end of my marriage. 1194 01:11:23,451 --> 01:11:25,142 It was the catalyst. 1195 01:11:27,973 --> 01:11:30,389 When Colette got back from her vacation, 1196 01:11:30,424 --> 01:11:33,323 I told her what had happened. 1197 01:11:33,358 --> 01:11:36,844 She's actually engaged to be married again. 1198 01:11:36,878 --> 01:11:39,743 I'm happy for her and she seems to be happy 1199 01:11:39,778 --> 01:11:42,608 and that's all I could hope for. 1200 01:11:42,643 --> 01:11:44,576 I'm back into my music. 1201 01:11:45,887 --> 01:11:49,857 I'm looking at doing displays of art, museum jobs. 1202 01:11:51,893 --> 01:11:53,274 I'm just traveling. 1203 01:11:53,309 --> 01:11:58,279 I'm looking at doing different things, branching out, 1204 01:11:58,624 --> 01:12:00,592 and just not being the guy that, 1205 01:12:00,626 --> 01:12:05,251 "Look at my latest deer head, look at my latest coyote." 1206 01:12:05,286 --> 01:12:06,149 No, no, no. 1207 01:12:07,771 --> 01:12:09,911 The strangest thing about the whole experience 1208 01:12:09,946 --> 01:12:14,709 was that I don't think anybody else could have got 1209 01:12:14,744 --> 01:12:15,641 through to me. 1210 01:12:15,676 --> 01:12:18,299 And to be honest, Amy saved me. 1211 01:12:18,334 --> 01:12:20,646 She saved my life, literally. 1212 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:29,517 ♪ A candy-colored clown they call the sandman ♪ 1213 01:12:29,552 --> 01:12:33,866 ♪ Tiptoes to my room every night ♪ 1214 01:12:33,901 --> 01:12:37,318 ♪ Just to sprinkle stardust and to whisper ♪ 1215 01:12:37,353 --> 01:12:42,358 ♪ Go to sleep, everything is all right ♪ 1216 01:12:43,980 --> 01:12:48,985 ♪ I close my eyes, then I drift away ♪ 1217 01:12:53,334 --> 01:12:58,339 ♪ Into the magic night, I softly say ♪ 1218 01:13:02,757 --> 01:13:07,762 ♪ A silent prayer like dreamers do ♪ 1219 01:13:12,146 --> 01:13:17,047 ♪ Then I fall asleep to dream, my dreams of you ♪ 1220 01:13:22,812 --> 01:13:27,817 ♪ In dreams, I walk with you 1221 01:13:32,097 --> 01:13:37,102 ♪ In dreams, I talk to you 1222 01:13:41,451 --> 01:13:46,422 ♪ In dreams, you're mine all of the time ♪ 1223 01:13:49,770 --> 01:13:54,291 ♪ We're together in dreams, in dreams ♪ 1224 01:14:02,921 --> 01:14:03,749 Discovery. 1225 01:14:05,475 --> 01:14:07,615 There's been a development 1226 01:14:08,996 --> 01:14:11,447 and I'm being very guardedly optimistic 1227 01:14:11,481 --> 01:14:13,207 as of like right now. 1228 01:14:14,450 --> 01:14:15,485 There's something that I've been working with 1229 01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,487 for a number of years 1230 01:14:17,522 --> 01:14:20,110 and it has to do with final proof. 1231 01:14:20,145 --> 01:14:22,561 And whether it comes out in the wash 1232 01:14:22,596 --> 01:14:26,323 that I had anything to do with it or not, I don't know. 1233 01:14:26,358 --> 01:14:30,086 But there is a very, very good possibility 1234 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,366 that conclusive proof will be brought forward... soon. 1235 01:14:36,506 --> 01:14:39,060 [upbeat music] 1236 01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:48,484 ♪ There's a lot of frighteningfolks who don't know who I am ♪ 1237 01:14:50,382 --> 01:14:55,387 ♪ Some call me Satan others just the Bogeyman ♪ 1238 01:14:57,078 --> 01:15:01,358 ♪ Well the time has come to step away from the shadows ♪ 1239 01:15:01,393 --> 01:15:04,845 ♪ I plan to lead if you want you can follow ♪ 1240 01:15:04,879 --> 01:15:06,571 ♪ I'm making a stand 1241 01:15:06,605 --> 01:15:09,643 ♪ I'm gonna show the world who I am ♪ 1242 01:15:11,955 --> 01:15:16,719 ♪ This blue world is turning a bit more brown each day ♪ 1243 01:15:18,928 --> 01:15:23,933 ♪ We screw things up, we don't seem to know another way ♪ 1244 01:15:25,486 --> 01:15:29,490 ♪ So let's make some noise, a primal scream in the night ♪ 1245 01:15:29,525 --> 01:15:33,080 ♪ We're doing things wrong, so lets do things right ♪ 1246 01:15:33,114 --> 01:15:38,119 ♪ The time has come to show the world who I am ♪ 1247 01:15:39,845 --> 01:15:44,850 ♪ Big plans big dream big moves and we know why ♪ 1248 01:15:46,921 --> 01:15:51,926 ♪ I'm telling you now big fur she's gonna fly ♪ 1249 01:15:54,032 --> 01:15:57,829 ♪ Hold on to the task that we have at hand ♪ 1250 01:15:57,863 --> 01:16:01,487 ♪ Only together can we see this good land ♪ 1251 01:16:01,522 --> 01:16:06,527 ♪ Fight the good fight, together we all have to try ♪ 1252 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:13,085 ♪ 'Cause I'm telling you now big fur she's gonna fly ♪ 1253 01:16:15,191 --> 01:16:20,127 ♪ I'm telling you now big fur she's gonna fly ♪