1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:24,455 --> 00:00:27,092 - He threw a pan in my direction. 4 00:00:27,161 --> 00:00:28,293 And then he said, 5 00:00:28,362 --> 00:00:31,624 "This is why they don't let women in kitchens." 6 00:00:31,693 --> 00:00:33,560 - He told me if I sat on his lap, 7 00:00:33,629 --> 00:00:35,298 he'd buy a lot of wine for me. 8 00:00:35,367 --> 00:00:36,533 - He pulled me in his office 9 00:00:36,602 --> 00:00:40,336 and without knowing anything about me he said, 10 00:00:40,405 --> 00:00:42,173 "If you're gonna get emotional about this, 11 00:00:42,242 --> 00:00:44,241 "you're not gonna work here anymore." 12 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:45,374 - I had this group of men 13 00:00:45,443 --> 00:00:46,709 that I was taking care of. 14 00:00:46,778 --> 00:00:51,710 They said, "How much would it cost to take you home?" 15 00:00:52,879 --> 00:00:53,889 - He told me to make sure I dressed 16 00:00:53,913 --> 00:00:57,452 and spoke appropriately at the event. 17 00:00:57,521 --> 00:00:59,586 - He said, "I didn't realize a girl 18 00:00:59,655 --> 00:01:02,886 "that looked like you would know something about food." 19 00:01:02,955 --> 00:01:05,889 - I arrived at an event to work a party 20 00:01:05,958 --> 00:01:08,298 that was predominantly male. 21 00:01:08,367 --> 00:01:10,795 And I searched for my manager on duty 22 00:01:10,864 --> 00:01:13,567 to ask for any specific instruction or direction. 23 00:01:13,636 --> 00:01:16,735 And the manager who was also male said to me, 24 00:01:16,804 --> 00:01:18,407 "Oh you know, just flirt. 25 00:01:18,476 --> 00:01:20,442 "Just do that thing that you girls do." 26 00:01:20,511 --> 00:01:21,810 - I was crouched down 27 00:01:21,879 --> 00:01:24,875 in front of another chef taking a group photo at an event. 28 00:01:24,944 --> 00:01:27,152 And when I stand up, he says to me, 29 00:01:27,221 --> 00:01:29,517 "Whoops, I think I just got you pregnant." 30 00:01:29,586 --> 00:01:31,552 - It was always expected that when I would walk 31 00:01:31,621 --> 00:01:33,554 into any new kitchen for the first time, 32 00:01:33,623 --> 00:01:38,163 I would get hard stares, whistleblows, sexual comments 33 00:01:38,232 --> 00:01:40,660 and then it became a part of the lifestyle. 34 00:01:40,729 --> 00:01:42,497 And I just learned to get used to it. 35 00:01:42,566 --> 00:01:44,928 - I remember the first time doning a chef coat 36 00:01:44,997 --> 00:01:46,600 and what honor it felt to wear it. 37 00:01:46,669 --> 00:01:48,767 And then the chef saying to me 38 00:01:48,836 --> 00:01:51,737 how I was not as cute as I was 39 00:01:51,806 --> 00:01:54,212 in my regular front of the house outfit. 40 00:01:54,281 --> 00:01:56,280 - I remember once going on a job interview 41 00:01:56,349 --> 00:01:58,909 for a pastry chef position in New York 42 00:01:58,978 --> 00:02:01,318 and the male executive chef asked me 43 00:02:01,387 --> 00:02:03,716 if I was planning on getting married 44 00:02:03,785 --> 00:02:06,356 or getting pregnant because if I was, 45 00:02:06,425 --> 00:02:07,621 he couldn't hire me. 46 00:02:07,690 --> 00:02:09,392 - Working my way up through the ranks 47 00:02:09,461 --> 00:02:12,329 of kitchens in New York City, it was quite challenging. 48 00:02:12,398 --> 00:02:14,463 And one of the biggest challenges I had to overcome 49 00:02:14,532 --> 00:02:15,860 as a young sous chef 50 00:02:16,963 --> 00:02:19,468 was not because of my cooking abilities, 51 00:02:19,537 --> 00:02:21,404 it was actually because I was a woman. 52 00:02:21,473 --> 00:02:22,735 - One time during the judgment 53 00:02:22,804 --> 00:02:24,671 of one of those cooking competition shows 54 00:02:24,740 --> 00:02:27,344 on food television, I had a male chef say to me, 55 00:02:27,413 --> 00:02:30,446 "You're a very talented young lady." 56 00:02:30,515 --> 00:02:32,475 And I thought, "Why can't you just call me chef?" 57 00:02:32,517 --> 00:02:34,681 - You're gonna meet men in the kitchen 58 00:02:34,750 --> 00:02:37,816 who don't want you around because you're a woman. 59 00:02:37,885 --> 00:02:38,995 You're gonna meet men in the kitchen 60 00:02:39,019 --> 00:02:41,457 who want you around because you're a woman. 61 00:02:41,526 --> 00:02:43,756 And then you're gonna meet other women 62 00:02:43,825 --> 00:02:46,726 who don't want you around because you're a woman. 63 00:02:47,928 --> 00:02:48,972 And I looked at him and I was like, 64 00:02:48,996 --> 00:02:51,533 "Well chef, where do I go from there?" 65 00:02:51,602 --> 00:02:54,932 He's like, "Darling, you go nowhere but up, okay?" 66 00:02:55,001 --> 00:02:58,507 And I laughed and I will never forget those words 67 00:02:58,576 --> 00:02:59,376 that he told me. 68 00:02:59,445 --> 00:03:00,445 And it's true. 69 00:03:01,348 --> 00:03:02,445 I'm Leia Gaccione. 70 00:03:02,514 --> 00:03:03,580 I've been cooking 71 00:03:03,648 --> 00:03:05,408 in some of the most high profile restaurants 72 00:03:05,451 --> 00:03:07,714 for the last 20 years. 73 00:03:07,783 --> 00:03:10,288 I am in a small percentage of women trying 74 00:03:10,357 --> 00:03:13,852 to make their mark in an industry filled with dudes. 75 00:03:15,395 --> 00:03:17,988 I can think back on a lot of female chefs that inspired me 76 00:03:18,057 --> 00:03:19,891 as I wanted to become a chef. 77 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,762 While it may be a cliche, was there anything better 78 00:03:22,831 --> 00:03:25,435 than watching Julia Child on television? 79 00:03:25,504 --> 00:03:27,404 And as I grew further into my career, 80 00:03:27,473 --> 00:03:29,340 I had a meal at Dominique Crenn's restaurant 81 00:03:29,409 --> 00:03:32,508 in San Francisco that still resonates with me. 82 00:03:32,577 --> 00:03:34,939 As I started to put a list of women together 83 00:03:35,008 --> 00:03:36,341 that I wanted to talk to, 84 00:03:36,409 --> 00:03:40,681 I kept coming back to one name that truly defines a shero 85 00:03:40,750 --> 00:03:43,354 in the kitchen, Elizabeth Falkner. 86 00:03:59,736 --> 00:04:01,351 - My least favorite media question I get 87 00:04:01,375 --> 00:04:03,033 is where are all the female chefs? 88 00:04:03,102 --> 00:04:04,837 Where all the female chefs? 89 00:04:04,906 --> 00:04:06,575 I mean, there are a lot of Joan of arcs 90 00:04:06,644 --> 00:04:08,379 in the restaurant world all over. 91 00:04:08,448 --> 00:04:10,909 So like, Alice Waters, Lidia Bastianich, 92 00:04:10,978 --> 00:04:13,879 Barbara Tropp, Judy Rodgers, Cecilia Chiang, 93 00:04:13,948 --> 00:04:15,452 Anne Rosenzweig, Barbara Lynch, 94 00:04:15,521 --> 00:04:17,586 Traci Des Jardins, Daniela Soto-Innes. 95 00:04:17,655 --> 00:04:18,851 Where all the female chefs? 96 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:20,083 Where all the female chefs? 97 00:04:20,152 --> 00:04:21,722 And Nancy Silverton of course, 98 00:04:21,791 --> 00:04:24,021 Joyce Goldstein, Nancy Oaks. 99 00:04:24,090 --> 00:04:25,924 And then you had Susan Feniger 100 00:04:25,993 --> 00:04:28,399 and Mary Sue Milliken down in Los Angeles. 101 00:04:28,468 --> 00:04:30,731 Gabrielle Hamilton and Michelle Bernstein, Sherry Yard, 102 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,337 Jen Lewis, Anita Lo, Lynn Crawford, 103 00:04:32,406 --> 00:04:33,833 Amanda Cohen, Carla Hall, 104 00:04:33,902 --> 00:04:35,736 Tonya Holland, Alex Shelley. 105 00:04:35,805 --> 00:04:37,474 There are so many female chefs. 106 00:04:37,543 --> 00:04:39,740 I don't know why people even ask the question. 107 00:04:39,809 --> 00:04:42,611 People are always asking what it's like to be a female chef. 108 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:43,979 And I'm like, "I don't know. 109 00:04:44,048 --> 00:04:45,092 "Let's go talk to a bunch of female chefs and find out." 110 00:04:45,116 --> 00:04:46,676 I mean, I don't know what else to say. 111 00:04:46,717 --> 00:04:47,983 I am a female chef 112 00:04:48,052 --> 00:04:49,795 so I don't know what it's not like to be a female chef 113 00:04:49,819 --> 00:04:53,820 'cause I genuinely like female cooking. 114 00:04:53,889 --> 00:04:56,020 It's funny because people always think of me 115 00:04:56,089 --> 00:04:59,760 from my food television times as being only a pastry chef, 116 00:04:59,829 --> 00:05:03,500 but I do make all kinds of food, savory and sweet. 117 00:05:03,569 --> 00:05:05,964 Sometimes I like to mix it up and screw with people. 118 00:05:06,033 --> 00:05:07,199 Today, I'm more interested 119 00:05:07,268 --> 00:05:11,002 in what ingredients tastes like in making sweet 120 00:05:11,071 --> 00:05:13,136 or savory food that tastes like those ingredients. 121 00:05:13,205 --> 00:05:15,842 There's just a lot of life lessons in cooking food. 122 00:05:17,815 --> 00:05:19,912 - Elizabeth Falkner bridges the gap 123 00:05:19,981 --> 00:05:22,046 between generations of female chefs. 124 00:05:22,115 --> 00:05:25,984 She is an artist, an activist 125 00:05:26,053 --> 00:05:28,822 and an advocate for many things. 126 00:05:28,891 --> 00:05:30,461 She was renowned for opening one 127 00:05:30,530 --> 00:05:32,023 of the most famous bakeries 128 00:05:32,092 --> 00:05:34,696 in San Francisco, Citizen Cake, 129 00:05:34,765 --> 00:05:36,764 crushing cooking competitions 130 00:05:36,833 --> 00:05:40,405 and becoming an iconic figure in the food world. 131 00:05:40,474 --> 00:05:44,640 Chef Elizabeth has slayed both sweet and savory. 132 00:05:44,709 --> 00:05:46,741 And with 26 years behind her, 133 00:05:46,810 --> 00:05:48,545 she is just getting started. 134 00:05:48,614 --> 00:05:49,680 - In Northern California, 135 00:05:49,748 --> 00:05:53,011 it felt like the food scene was the scene. 136 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,618 Think about it, I came from where Hollywood was the scene 137 00:05:55,687 --> 00:05:57,983 in LA to this place where the chefs 138 00:05:58,052 --> 00:06:01,492 were the superstars all of a sudden like Alice Waters 139 00:06:01,561 --> 00:06:02,889 had Chez Panisse. 140 00:06:02,958 --> 00:06:04,825 Judy Rodgers had this restaurant called Zuni 141 00:06:04,894 --> 00:06:06,893 and then there was Jeremiah Tower with Stars. 142 00:06:06,962 --> 00:06:10,435 And I worked at Williams-Sonoma when I was still in college 143 00:06:10,504 --> 00:06:12,141 and I started reading everybody's cookbooks. 144 00:06:12,165 --> 00:06:14,901 And finishing college at San Francisco Art Institute, 145 00:06:14,970 --> 00:06:16,203 I was making films. 146 00:06:16,271 --> 00:06:18,213 It was more like I loved the choreography of people 147 00:06:18,237 --> 00:06:20,907 in an open kitchen like this or behind the bar. 148 00:06:20,976 --> 00:06:22,678 And I started wanting to just bring more 149 00:06:22,747 --> 00:06:25,109 and more food stuff into those scenes. 150 00:06:25,178 --> 00:06:27,617 I needed to go really be in a kitchen, 151 00:06:27,686 --> 00:06:29,499 but it was really hard for me to get into the kitchen 152 00:06:29,523 --> 00:06:30,731 because I didn't have any experience. 153 00:06:30,755 --> 00:06:32,021 And then I got a part-time job 154 00:06:32,090 --> 00:06:35,460 at a little French bistro in downtown San Francisco. 155 00:06:35,529 --> 00:06:37,693 I took over as the chef pretty quickly, 156 00:06:37,762 --> 00:06:40,696 but then I staged at a fine dining restaurant and I thought, 157 00:06:40,765 --> 00:06:42,929 "Okay, I need to go work at that restaurant." 158 00:06:42,998 --> 00:06:44,667 And that restaurant was Masa's. 159 00:06:44,736 --> 00:06:46,002 I worked at Masa's for a year 160 00:06:46,071 --> 00:06:48,836 and then I went to work for Traci Des Jardins at Elka. 161 00:06:48,905 --> 00:06:51,069 And then one year later we opened Rubicon 162 00:06:51,138 --> 00:06:52,543 where I worked for three years. 163 00:06:52,612 --> 00:06:53,622 That was a pretty big deal 164 00:06:53,646 --> 00:06:55,052 'cause Traci won James Beard award, 165 00:06:55,076 --> 00:06:56,119 rising star chef that year. 166 00:06:56,143 --> 00:06:57,680 We were 28 years old. 167 00:06:57,749 --> 00:06:59,026 Everybody came into that restaurant. 168 00:06:59,050 --> 00:07:01,519 Julia Child came to that restaurant, Jacques Pepin 169 00:07:01,588 --> 00:07:05,820 Claudine, tons of movie stars, tons of wine makers. 170 00:07:05,889 --> 00:07:08,197 It became really obvious that I needed to open my own place. 171 00:07:08,221 --> 00:07:09,520 And I was like, 172 00:07:09,589 --> 00:07:12,761 "San Francisco needs a really modern, cool pastry shop." 173 00:07:12,830 --> 00:07:14,096 Because it just didn't exist. 174 00:07:14,165 --> 00:07:17,161 At the original Citizen Cake, we had a wood-fired oven 175 00:07:17,230 --> 00:07:19,702 and we did amazing little pizzas. 176 00:07:19,771 --> 00:07:22,067 We made very eccentric pastries and cakes. 177 00:07:22,136 --> 00:07:22,901 Made our own marshmallows, 178 00:07:22,970 --> 00:07:23,902 made our own cream crackers. 179 00:07:23,971 --> 00:07:24,903 I know that's really common today, 180 00:07:24,972 --> 00:07:27,611 but that didn't even really happen. 181 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,251 And then my business partner roasted coffee 182 00:07:29,275 --> 00:07:30,911 so that didn't even exist. 183 00:07:30,980 --> 00:07:31,780 It was really cool. 184 00:07:31,849 --> 00:07:32,481 I learned a lot. 185 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:33,550 It was really tough. 186 00:07:33,617 --> 00:07:35,652 I felt like our location was too remote 187 00:07:35,721 --> 00:07:38,721 so I moved it to what became a very popular place, 188 00:07:38,790 --> 00:07:39,856 which is Hayes Valley. 189 00:07:39,924 --> 00:07:41,670 And then that place became a full restaurant 190 00:07:41,694 --> 00:07:42,960 and pastry shop. 191 00:07:43,029 --> 00:07:45,530 We made our own ice creams and made all these cakes. 192 00:07:45,599 --> 00:07:47,158 I had an open pastry kitchen 193 00:07:47,227 --> 00:07:48,404 and then we had a full restaurant too 194 00:07:48,428 --> 00:07:51,162 which was right near the theater and always busy. 195 00:07:55,301 --> 00:07:58,576 So I had Citizen Cake for about 15 years 196 00:07:58,645 --> 00:08:00,710 and then I had a little satellite cafe 197 00:08:00,779 --> 00:08:02,613 called Citizen Cupcake for a minute. 198 00:08:02,682 --> 00:08:05,143 I had this other restaurant Orson that we opened in 2008. 199 00:08:05,212 --> 00:08:06,650 That period of time was just rough 200 00:08:06,719 --> 00:08:08,245 after the stock market crash. 201 00:08:08,314 --> 00:08:12,315 I had a life partnership that was dissolving. 202 00:08:12,384 --> 00:08:13,550 We needed to close. 203 00:08:13,619 --> 00:08:15,989 Just real estate was very expensive and greedy 204 00:08:16,058 --> 00:08:16,924 and lots of greedy people around me. 205 00:08:16,993 --> 00:08:18,226 It was crazy. 206 00:08:18,294 --> 00:08:21,324 And the more popular I got, the more Pac-Man it felt. 207 00:08:21,393 --> 00:08:24,228 People were just kind of running after a lot of stuff. 208 00:08:24,297 --> 00:08:25,297 And then I was like, 209 00:08:25,365 --> 00:08:27,231 "I think I'm just done in this town. 210 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:28,606 "I can't figure out any more. 211 00:08:28,675 --> 00:08:30,008 "I can't make this work." 212 00:08:30,076 --> 00:08:32,083 And I was like, "Okay well, I guess maybe it's time to move 213 00:08:32,107 --> 00:08:34,909 "to New York." 214 00:08:37,310 --> 00:08:39,848 I came to New York after winning a piece of competition 215 00:08:39,917 --> 00:08:43,247 in Naples, Italy to open a pizzeria in Brooklyn. 216 00:08:43,316 --> 00:08:45,821 I wanted to go back to just like cooking in fire. 217 00:08:45,890 --> 00:08:47,889 And then I got pulled into consulting 218 00:08:47,958 --> 00:08:49,594 on a restaurant in the upper West side 219 00:08:49,663 --> 00:08:51,926 and that was a really beautiful restaurant. 220 00:08:51,995 --> 00:08:54,126 I love the cooking competitions shows 221 00:08:54,195 --> 00:08:56,029 because I played soccer so long. 222 00:08:56,098 --> 00:08:57,364 The first shows that I did 223 00:08:57,433 --> 00:08:58,677 were the earliest Food Network Challenges where we had 224 00:08:58,701 --> 00:09:01,903 to build some kind of gargantuan cake sort of thing 225 00:09:01,972 --> 00:09:04,301 and then move it for some reason across the room. 226 00:09:04,370 --> 00:09:08,140 It feels like my culinary and my soccer athleticness 227 00:09:08,209 --> 00:09:09,878 is meeting each other in the middle. 228 00:09:09,947 --> 00:09:12,111 Knowing that it's a fleeting moment of cooking 229 00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:14,146 and not taking it so seriously, 230 00:09:14,215 --> 00:09:16,148 but this is just a fun game 231 00:09:16,217 --> 00:09:19,316 has been my favorite part about it for sure. 232 00:09:19,385 --> 00:09:21,120 - Elizabeth asked me to meet her 233 00:09:21,189 --> 00:09:22,726 at Hong Thaimee's restaurant 234 00:09:22,795 --> 00:09:25,157 in the East village, Thaimee Table. 235 00:09:25,226 --> 00:09:27,830 They are both cooking for a private event 236 00:09:27,899 --> 00:09:30,360 that will raise awareness and funds for RED. 237 00:09:30,429 --> 00:09:32,098 - I was an executive in Taiwan. 238 00:09:33,201 --> 00:09:36,069 Yeah, I ran philanthropy department 239 00:09:36,138 --> 00:09:39,039 for big pharmaceutical company in Bangkok. 240 00:09:39,108 --> 00:09:42,372 - Wow. - And graduated with MBA. 241 00:09:42,441 --> 00:09:47,080 Applied for a job as a hostess at Jean-Jorges spice market 242 00:09:47,149 --> 00:09:50,787 and made my way into the kitchen and walk through fire. 243 00:09:50,856 --> 00:09:53,284 And now I have a couple of restaurants. 244 00:09:53,353 --> 00:09:56,419 - A lot of people would say that we're women 245 00:09:56,488 --> 00:09:59,422 in a man's world doing this. 246 00:09:59,491 --> 00:10:01,160 But then when you really think about it, 247 00:10:01,229 --> 00:10:02,470 when you think about all the women doing it, 248 00:10:02,494 --> 00:10:04,064 you realize there's a lot more women 249 00:10:04,133 --> 00:10:07,133 in this business than what everyone else makes 250 00:10:07,202 --> 00:10:08,368 it seem out to be. 251 00:10:08,437 --> 00:10:12,776 - I feel like people underestimate us sometimes. 252 00:10:12,845 --> 00:10:15,141 They think that women just women. 253 00:10:15,210 --> 00:10:16,509 We not, we stronger. 254 00:10:16,578 --> 00:10:21,917 We know how to push through things sometime more than men 255 00:10:23,251 --> 00:10:25,250 because we don't have much of an ego I would say. 256 00:10:25,319 --> 00:10:28,891 The way that we do things, we not do it to fight. 257 00:10:30,225 --> 00:10:32,170 We not doing that, oh I have to be better than you 258 00:10:32,194 --> 00:10:33,471 or you have to be better than me, but we do it 259 00:10:33,495 --> 00:10:36,998 because we truly really love to be in this industry. 260 00:10:38,838 --> 00:10:42,135 I feel like why are we in this industry? 261 00:10:42,204 --> 00:10:44,038 So that we can get Michelin star, 262 00:10:44,107 --> 00:10:47,107 so that we can be number one in the world. 263 00:10:47,176 --> 00:10:49,274 I mean, I don't oppose to that, 264 00:10:49,343 --> 00:10:52,079 but that is not the most important thing. 265 00:10:52,148 --> 00:10:54,752 We here to love and serve people through our food. 266 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:55,865 I don't know the rest of them, 267 00:10:55,889 --> 00:10:58,756 but that's why I'm in this industry, 268 00:10:58,825 --> 00:11:00,219 that's why I'm working so hard, 269 00:11:00,288 --> 00:11:04,355 14 hours a day on my feet dealing with bunions 270 00:11:04,424 --> 00:11:06,423 and all those stuff. 271 00:11:06,492 --> 00:11:11,131 We have to really look into why are we here? 272 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,739 Going back and ask that same question you asked yourself, 273 00:11:14,808 --> 00:11:15,674 why do you love to cook? 274 00:11:15,742 --> 00:11:16,886 Why you wanna be in the business? 275 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:20,470 I feel like I wanna live my life with purpose. 276 00:11:20,539 --> 00:11:22,978 And my purpose is to love and serve people. 277 00:11:25,379 --> 00:11:27,444 - One of the most important relationships I have 278 00:11:27,513 --> 00:11:31,184 outside of work is with my brother Gary. 279 00:11:31,253 --> 00:11:32,922 This year for his birthday, 280 00:11:32,991 --> 00:11:35,287 I tried to do something super special 281 00:11:35,356 --> 00:11:37,454 because my schedule has been very chaotic. 282 00:11:37,523 --> 00:11:38,523 Food is love to me. 283 00:11:38,591 --> 00:11:41,161 So I'm making him one of his favorites, 284 00:11:41,230 --> 00:11:44,901 a medium rare cheeseburger with a runny egg. 285 00:11:44,970 --> 00:11:47,431 What could be better than celebrating your birthday 286 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:48,707 with a burger? 287 00:11:49,743 --> 00:11:51,501 It's really sweet to give the gift 288 00:11:51,570 --> 00:11:53,437 of food to the ones you love, 289 00:11:53,506 --> 00:11:56,847 just like Caroline Schiff does with her desserts. 290 00:12:04,220 --> 00:12:07,891 - It all started with birthday cake for me. 291 00:12:09,555 --> 00:12:11,928 I mean, I would get so excited for my birthday 292 00:12:11,997 --> 00:12:13,037 because it was about cake. 293 00:12:13,097 --> 00:12:14,524 I was like, "Well, I'm gonna get 294 00:12:14,593 --> 00:12:17,065 "to make this cake start to finish. 295 00:12:17,134 --> 00:12:19,804 "It's gonna be exactly what I want it to be." 296 00:12:19,873 --> 00:12:21,399 I was like in elementary school 297 00:12:21,468 --> 00:12:25,843 and I would have never gone out to buy a cake 298 00:12:25,912 --> 00:12:28,142 or have a store-bought cake. 299 00:12:31,313 --> 00:12:33,213 I felt like it was so special. 300 00:12:33,282 --> 00:12:35,380 It was just the most special thing 301 00:12:35,449 --> 00:12:38,350 that I got to do all year was bake my birthday cake. 302 00:12:38,419 --> 00:12:40,088 And then as I got a little bit older, 303 00:12:40,157 --> 00:12:42,321 it was like I wanted to make them for other people. 304 00:12:42,390 --> 00:12:44,422 I really started to understand that, 305 00:12:44,491 --> 00:12:48,426 that is an incredible gift to give to somebody. 306 00:12:53,907 --> 00:12:56,104 They have a slice of it on their birthday 307 00:12:56,173 --> 00:12:59,844 and they're celebrating with friends or family or whatever, 308 00:12:59,913 --> 00:13:03,276 but what I really want them to feel 309 00:13:03,345 --> 00:13:08,347 and for them to take away is just pure happiness. 310 00:13:22,067 --> 00:13:24,363 Strawberries and I go way back. 311 00:13:24,432 --> 00:13:29,434 I remember going to the Plaza hotel with my mom and my aunt. 312 00:13:30,944 --> 00:13:32,581 I remember getting strawberries and cream, 313 00:13:32,605 --> 00:13:37,475 just really sweet sugary, macerated, strawberries. 314 00:13:38,952 --> 00:13:42,150 They were this beautiful, hot pink red color 315 00:13:42,219 --> 00:13:43,418 and whipped cream. 316 00:13:43,487 --> 00:13:46,550 And I made such a mess and I just dove right in, 317 00:13:46,619 --> 00:13:49,993 but to me that was the perfect food. 318 00:13:50,062 --> 00:13:53,458 That moment was the beginning of something for me. 319 00:13:53,527 --> 00:13:58,529 It was the beginning of this love affair with sugar 320 00:13:59,533 --> 00:14:01,103 that I've had and food. 321 00:14:01,172 --> 00:14:03,369 And I think my mother worried 322 00:14:03,438 --> 00:14:05,305 because she thought I was the sugar monster. 323 00:14:05,374 --> 00:14:08,044 She was like, "Oh my God, my child only wants to eat sugar." 324 00:14:08,113 --> 00:14:11,179 And there was no doubt in my mind 325 00:14:11,248 --> 00:14:13,115 or anybody else who knew me well 326 00:14:13,184 --> 00:14:15,051 from a really young age that food 327 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,319 and pretty specifically dessert was the thing 328 00:14:19,388 --> 00:14:21,189 that I loved the most. 329 00:14:21,258 --> 00:14:24,654 When I was young, I would cook mostly by myself 330 00:14:24,723 --> 00:14:28,196 mostly because I was really bossy in the kitchen. 331 00:14:28,265 --> 00:14:31,595 My aunt, my mom's youngest sister, 332 00:14:31,664 --> 00:14:35,335 she was a chef working in restaurants in New York 333 00:14:35,404 --> 00:14:38,008 when I was little in the '80s. 334 00:14:38,077 --> 00:14:41,341 I just thought it was the coolest thing. 335 00:14:41,410 --> 00:14:44,707 She would come over with interesting ingredients. 336 00:14:44,776 --> 00:14:48,018 I knew she was out late working in the kitchen 337 00:14:48,087 --> 00:14:51,582 and she was downtown and I just thought it was so cool. 338 00:14:51,651 --> 00:14:54,585 And I was like, "I wanna learn how to do that. 339 00:14:54,654 --> 00:14:58,963 "And I wanna make food that people are gonna eat. 340 00:14:59,032 --> 00:15:00,265 "Not just for my family, 341 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:02,626 "I wanna make food that people want to buy and eat 342 00:15:02,695 --> 00:15:04,013 "'cause they think it's delicious 343 00:15:04,037 --> 00:15:06,201 "and they think it's special." 344 00:15:06,270 --> 00:15:08,137 - As she journeyed across the world 345 00:15:08,206 --> 00:15:11,536 discovering the flavors that would ignite a fire in her, 346 00:15:11,605 --> 00:15:13,340 Caroline's path would cross 347 00:15:13,409 --> 00:15:15,177 with the uber-talented Sohui Kim. 348 00:15:17,215 --> 00:15:18,642 - I was looking for jobs 349 00:15:18,711 --> 00:15:22,349 and I have a resume that has nothing on it. 350 00:15:22,418 --> 00:15:26,122 It has my education basically and a little paragraph 351 00:15:26,191 --> 00:15:29,125 about what I love about food so much. 352 00:15:29,194 --> 00:15:32,656 The only one that got back to me was The Good Fork 353 00:15:32,725 --> 00:15:35,395 and the chef owner here Sohui Kim. 354 00:15:35,464 --> 00:15:37,624 So she called me and she was like, "I got your resume. 355 00:15:37,664 --> 00:15:40,532 "And you seem really passionate, 356 00:15:40,601 --> 00:15:43,469 "but it kind of looks like you don't have any experience. 357 00:15:43,538 --> 00:15:44,971 "Is that true? 358 00:15:45,039 --> 00:15:49,211 And I was like, "Well, professionally, yeah, no experience." 359 00:15:50,479 --> 00:15:53,743 I'm lucky that I found somebody who sees the value 360 00:15:53,812 --> 00:15:58,286 in teaching people and sees the value in somebody 361 00:15:58,355 --> 00:16:01,751 who has a ton of passion and no experience. 362 00:16:01,820 --> 00:16:05,788 I owe her a lot because she saw something in me. 363 00:16:05,857 --> 00:16:08,296 - Well, it was very well-written first of all. 364 00:16:08,365 --> 00:16:10,694 And I was very impressed and it's not usual 365 00:16:10,763 --> 00:16:14,533 that you get very heartfelt cover letter on a resume. 366 00:16:14,602 --> 00:16:18,306 And the first thing that I noticed was just her sense 367 00:16:18,375 --> 00:16:22,343 of enthusiasm and her spirit. 368 00:16:22,412 --> 00:16:24,357 I don't know, it's just hard to describe it to words 369 00:16:24,381 --> 00:16:26,644 when you meet somebody and you're like, "Wow." 370 00:16:26,713 --> 00:16:29,746 I was very, very sure from the minute that I met her 371 00:16:29,815 --> 00:16:32,287 that she was gonna do wonderful things. 372 00:16:32,356 --> 00:16:34,025 - I owe my career to Sohui. 373 00:16:36,162 --> 00:16:38,656 For her to be a mentor like that, 374 00:16:38,725 --> 00:16:43,628 she was so generous with her time and her knowledge. 375 00:16:44,764 --> 00:16:48,600 As a new cook, I fucked up so much. 376 00:16:48,669 --> 00:16:49,733 I shouldn't say fuck. 377 00:16:50,670 --> 00:16:51,902 - I love that, say that. 378 00:16:51,971 --> 00:16:56,740 - I fucked up so much and she would kind of use it 379 00:16:57,876 --> 00:17:00,216 as a way to teach you something else. 380 00:17:00,285 --> 00:17:02,350 - More than anything, I've taught a lot of people 381 00:17:02,419 --> 00:17:04,253 in this kitchen and more than anything, 382 00:17:04,322 --> 00:17:08,125 I value hard work, enthusiasm 383 00:17:08,194 --> 00:17:10,655 and certainly passion for cooking. 384 00:17:10,724 --> 00:17:15,429 And she's just had the perfect bundle of all three and more. 385 00:17:16,862 --> 00:17:18,663 When a young person comes in 386 00:17:18,732 --> 00:17:22,766 and they have so much enthusiasm, it's infectious. 387 00:17:22,835 --> 00:17:26,638 And it makes for a very awesome working environment. 388 00:17:26,707 --> 00:17:29,146 So right away, she was an integral part 389 00:17:29,215 --> 00:17:30,312 of the team for sure. 390 00:17:32,845 --> 00:17:35,185 - We are back here with our second contestant. 391 00:17:35,254 --> 00:17:36,053 What's your name? 392 00:17:36,122 --> 00:17:38,188 - Fatima Ali. - Fatima Ali, 393 00:17:38,257 --> 00:17:39,387 where are you from? 394 00:17:39,456 --> 00:17:40,622 - Karachi, Pakistan. 395 00:17:40,691 --> 00:17:44,491 - Listen Fatima Ali, what is unique about you? 396 00:17:45,495 --> 00:17:46,592 - Everything. 397 00:17:47,962 --> 00:17:51,564 I mean, cancer has touched everyone in one way or the other 398 00:17:51,633 --> 00:17:53,335 whether it's yourself, or a loved one 399 00:17:53,404 --> 00:17:55,469 or a friend, it's universal. 400 00:17:59,443 --> 00:18:02,575 The pain that it brings is also universal. 401 00:18:02,644 --> 00:18:06,810 But I think as someone who's gone through it, 402 00:18:06,879 --> 00:18:08,329 you have your good and your bad days, 403 00:18:08,353 --> 00:18:09,483 but it does get better. 404 00:18:10,751 --> 00:18:12,585 There's always hope. 405 00:18:12,654 --> 00:18:14,686 There's always joy to be found 406 00:18:14,755 --> 00:18:16,688 in the little things. 407 00:18:18,231 --> 00:18:19,736 You have to find your own distraction 408 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:20,425 to kind of get through it. 409 00:18:20,494 --> 00:18:22,826 And for me, that's food. 410 00:18:22,895 --> 00:18:25,862 For me, that's always been cooking. 411 00:18:25,931 --> 00:18:29,305 I think what's interesting to me is that I also realized 412 00:18:29,374 --> 00:18:32,506 how much I enjoy being a part of bigger picture things. 413 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,214 I'm so excited to be a part of someone's dining experience 414 00:18:37,283 --> 00:18:41,317 where they will never forget it for the rest of their lives. 415 00:18:41,386 --> 00:18:44,188 They'll talk about it for years. 416 00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:48,225 And in my own little way may have had a hand in that 417 00:18:48,294 --> 00:18:50,425 and that's something that's very special to me. 418 00:18:50,494 --> 00:18:52,724 And that's the reason I became a chef. 419 00:18:52,793 --> 00:18:55,595 - I have always been an avid watcher of "Top Chef". 420 00:18:55,664 --> 00:18:58,466 Cooking shows are what started my love affair with food. 421 00:18:58,535 --> 00:19:00,864 I was really rooting for chef Fatima Ali 422 00:19:00,933 --> 00:19:03,504 like so many other Americans that were glued 423 00:19:03,573 --> 00:19:05,638 to the screen during season 15. 424 00:19:05,707 --> 00:19:07,244 As I convinced myself to reach out 425 00:19:07,313 --> 00:19:08,872 to my new inspiration Fatima, 426 00:19:08,941 --> 00:19:11,875 I tried not to let my fan girl get the best of me. 427 00:19:11,944 --> 00:19:13,382 After our first chat, 428 00:19:13,451 --> 00:19:17,221 I knew this was a very special person, 429 00:19:17,290 --> 00:19:19,520 not because of how her story ends up, 430 00:19:19,589 --> 00:19:21,225 but because of how it began 431 00:19:21,294 --> 00:19:23,623 and how she literally became a top chef. 432 00:19:23,692 --> 00:19:25,493 - I was very, very young. 433 00:19:25,562 --> 00:19:26,761 According to my mom, 434 00:19:26,830 --> 00:19:29,761 I think I started cooking at about four or five. 435 00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:31,862 I remember really being in the kitchen. 436 00:19:31,931 --> 00:19:33,699 I was probably about eight or nine. 437 00:19:33,768 --> 00:19:35,668 I was too young to cook anything 438 00:19:35,737 --> 00:19:37,377 on the stove according to my grandmother 439 00:19:37,442 --> 00:19:39,903 so she would boil the water for me 440 00:19:39,972 --> 00:19:41,608 and I would make soup. 441 00:19:41,677 --> 00:19:44,413 I remember putting cabbage in it and carrots 442 00:19:44,482 --> 00:19:46,778 and seasoning it and just really just warm water 443 00:19:46,847 --> 00:19:49,517 and barely wilted vegetables really, 444 00:19:49,586 --> 00:19:51,453 but I was so proud of my creation. 445 00:19:51,522 --> 00:19:53,282 The older I got, the more I started cooking, 446 00:19:53,326 --> 00:19:55,820 the more I began to explore different kinds 447 00:19:55,889 --> 00:20:00,396 of cuisines with my dad who was actually a lawyer. 448 00:20:00,465 --> 00:20:01,597 He traveled a lot 449 00:20:01,666 --> 00:20:02,777 and anytime he would go to different countries, 450 00:20:02,801 --> 00:20:04,961 he would bring back something interesting. 451 00:20:05,030 --> 00:20:06,930 My family's basically been my guinea pig. 452 00:20:06,999 --> 00:20:08,131 I've made a lot 453 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:08,799 of really horrible things over the years too 454 00:20:08,868 --> 00:20:10,538 when I was younger. 455 00:20:10,607 --> 00:20:11,607 If it wasn't for them, 456 00:20:11,641 --> 00:20:12,915 I wouldn't be doing what I was doing. 457 00:20:12,939 --> 00:20:14,971 - As a little girl growing up, 458 00:20:16,041 --> 00:20:18,579 she was very sporty, very friendly. 459 00:20:18,648 --> 00:20:22,583 When other kids her age were watching Cartoon Network, 460 00:20:22,652 --> 00:20:24,354 she was watching BBC Food. 461 00:20:24,423 --> 00:20:27,390 Back in the day, she loved "Yan Can Cook". 462 00:20:27,459 --> 00:20:28,556 - If Yan Can Cook! 463 00:20:28,625 --> 00:20:30,525 - So can we! 464 00:20:30,594 --> 00:20:32,725 - When we were in Austin, Texas, 465 00:20:32,794 --> 00:20:35,860 I still remember her kindergarten teacher, lovely lady, 466 00:20:35,929 --> 00:20:37,128 she used to send 467 00:20:37,197 --> 00:20:40,766 these little pictogram recipes home every weekend. 468 00:20:40,835 --> 00:20:43,736 So every Friday, she'd come rushing home 469 00:20:43,805 --> 00:20:45,309 with that little recipe. 470 00:20:45,378 --> 00:20:46,871 We'd put that recipe together. 471 00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:50,314 Her love for food just naturally started 472 00:20:50,383 --> 00:20:52,976 when she was really, really very young. 473 00:20:53,045 --> 00:20:55,451 And I think as she grew older, 474 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,783 she found a lot of comfort in it. 475 00:21:00,657 --> 00:21:03,558 - My mom's always encouraged me in the kitchen 476 00:21:03,627 --> 00:21:05,560 and she's really encouraged and pushed me to try 477 00:21:05,629 --> 00:21:07,925 and be the best that I can possibly be. 478 00:21:07,994 --> 00:21:12,666 When I was about 17, I sat with her 479 00:21:12,735 --> 00:21:15,064 and told her I wanted to become a professional chef. 480 00:21:15,133 --> 00:21:18,034 And she told me that I could do that 481 00:21:18,103 --> 00:21:19,623 as long as I got a bachelor's degree. 482 00:21:19,676 --> 00:21:22,038 So I hopped on my computer 483 00:21:22,107 --> 00:21:26,075 and I googled America culinary bachelors. 484 00:21:26,144 --> 00:21:27,188 The first school that popped up 485 00:21:27,212 --> 00:21:30,387 was the Culinary Institute of America. 486 00:21:30,456 --> 00:21:33,621 I'd never been to that part of the world before. 487 00:21:33,690 --> 00:21:36,888 And it was just a really exciting, 488 00:21:36,957 --> 00:21:39,594 but also nerve wracking journey, moving from Pakistan, 489 00:21:39,663 --> 00:21:42,564 coming here for college and then immersing myself 490 00:21:42,633 --> 00:21:46,502 in a field that I had so much passion for, 491 00:21:46,571 --> 00:21:49,670 but no actual hands-on experience of yet. 492 00:21:50,971 --> 00:21:52,706 I remember the first time buttoning up 493 00:21:52,775 --> 00:21:54,136 our pristine chef jackets 494 00:21:54,205 --> 00:21:56,314 and assessing ourselves for an hour. 495 00:21:57,978 --> 00:22:01,550 We will remember standing in unknown kitchens, knife in hand 496 00:22:01,619 --> 00:22:03,519 and ready to conquer all. 497 00:22:03,588 --> 00:22:04,994 And we will remember the cuts and burns 498 00:22:05,018 --> 00:22:07,149 in our hands as evidence. 499 00:22:07,218 --> 00:22:10,119 Deep down inside most of us lies this incessant urge 500 00:22:10,188 --> 00:22:13,397 for acknowledgement, for approval. 501 00:22:13,466 --> 00:22:15,399 For if we did not have that need, 502 00:22:15,468 --> 00:22:17,401 we would not have become chefs. 503 00:22:17,470 --> 00:22:18,736 A plate of food 504 00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:21,966 is merely ordinary until someone deems it magnificent. 505 00:22:23,069 --> 00:22:25,739 We are all morbidly afraid of being ordinary 506 00:22:25,808 --> 00:22:29,809 for there seems no other thing so horrific as that. 507 00:22:29,878 --> 00:22:33,142 But today, it has been acknowledged, 508 00:22:33,211 --> 00:22:37,146 you have been acknowledged, we have been acknowledged 509 00:22:37,215 --> 00:22:40,083 as being absolutely extraordinary. 510 00:22:40,152 --> 00:22:41,152 - And I told her, I said, 511 00:22:41,220 --> 00:22:43,152 "If this is what you're gonna pursue, 512 00:22:43,221 --> 00:22:44,923 "this is what you're gonna do. 513 00:22:44,992 --> 00:22:47,959 "You will promise me that you will be the best." 514 00:22:48,028 --> 00:22:49,565 - See, I wasn't making it up. 515 00:22:51,097 --> 00:22:53,096 - Not because of any pressure, 516 00:22:53,165 --> 00:22:57,166 but because I feel you've got to own it, right? 517 00:22:57,235 --> 00:22:59,971 It's like if this is your commitment, 518 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,742 then that commitment needs to show. 519 00:23:01,811 --> 00:23:03,513 - With her mother's blessing 520 00:23:03,582 --> 00:23:04,915 and a dream in her heart, 521 00:23:04,983 --> 00:23:09,178 Fatima met her uncles Sibte in the city that never sleeps. 522 00:23:09,247 --> 00:23:11,554 - New York is tough, but I know her 523 00:23:11,623 --> 00:23:16,152 and she can dig up a whole mountain with a spoon 524 00:23:16,221 --> 00:23:17,692 if she needs to. 525 00:23:17,761 --> 00:23:19,727 We had a long conversation, 526 00:23:19,796 --> 00:23:21,531 her ambitions, what she wants to do. 527 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,127 She is focused and it's very rare to find somebody 528 00:23:24,196 --> 00:23:25,196 with that much focus. 529 00:23:25,264 --> 00:23:28,703 - I found myself working at Cafe Centro, 530 00:23:28,772 --> 00:23:30,969 which is a part of the Patina group in New York City. 531 00:23:31,038 --> 00:23:34,038 I actually found myself working for Maneet Chauhan. 532 00:23:34,107 --> 00:23:38,878 Seeing a woman of color doing such interesting 533 00:23:38,947 --> 00:23:41,650 and fantastic things in the industry was really inspiring. 534 00:23:41,719 --> 00:23:43,119 - One of the most endearing things 535 00:23:43,149 --> 00:23:46,787 to me about Fatima was her, there is nothing 536 00:23:46,856 --> 00:23:48,789 that's going to phase me out attitude. 537 00:23:48,858 --> 00:23:50,132 - I think it was really important 538 00:23:50,156 --> 00:23:53,156 for me to be able to see a woman 539 00:23:53,225 --> 00:23:56,027 who was running a restaurant and who's successful at it. 540 00:23:56,096 --> 00:23:59,701 - I think as a female chef myself, 541 00:23:59,770 --> 00:24:02,770 it is my responsibility to help pave way 542 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:07,511 for more young female chefs to make a mark 543 00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:09,172 and an impact in the industry. 544 00:24:09,241 --> 00:24:11,614 She got an opportunity. 545 00:24:11,683 --> 00:24:13,781 She did not squander that opportunity. 546 00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:15,717 She was a shining star and I think 547 00:24:15,786 --> 00:24:18,786 that was the most incredible part about Fatima. 548 00:24:18,855 --> 00:24:22,724 - I think when you talk about Nona or grandma cooking 549 00:24:27,831 --> 00:24:29,698 - in Italy, right? - - Yeah. 550 00:24:29,767 --> 00:24:31,799 - They usually run the restaurant 551 00:24:31,868 --> 00:24:33,582 and the kids just happened to work there too, 552 00:24:33,606 --> 00:24:36,199 but the mom is the boss. 553 00:24:42,615 --> 00:24:44,647 - I mean, being immigrant family, 554 00:24:44,716 --> 00:24:46,649 obviously it's either one of two things. 555 00:24:46,718 --> 00:24:48,223 You're either gonna be a lawyer or a doctor. 556 00:24:48,247 --> 00:24:51,214 And there's no other option, no other career path. 557 00:24:51,283 --> 00:24:52,360 You're either a lawyer or a doctor. 558 00:24:52,384 --> 00:24:55,691 And my parents drilled that into my head 559 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,594 since I was really little. 560 00:25:00,193 --> 00:25:02,138 They were like, "Oh, your sister's gonna be a doctor 561 00:25:02,162 --> 00:25:03,765 "so you're gonna be a lawyer." 562 00:25:04,934 --> 00:25:06,867 And then she chose a different path. 563 00:25:06,936 --> 00:25:08,002 So they were like, 564 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:09,081 "Okay, so you're gonna be the doctor now." 565 00:25:09,105 --> 00:25:13,236 It's funny, they were very strict, 566 00:25:13,305 --> 00:25:16,877 but my mom, she's a tough woman. 567 00:25:16,946 --> 00:25:18,549 She taught me how to be tough. 568 00:25:22,985 --> 00:25:24,852 As soon as I put on those whites, 569 00:25:24,921 --> 00:25:28,350 I kind of just had this weird, emotional, 570 00:25:28,419 --> 00:25:31,595 that weird feeling in your throat like a lump. 571 00:25:31,664 --> 00:25:33,256 And it was really emotional for me 572 00:25:33,325 --> 00:25:36,765 and I think that I really wanted to try. 573 00:25:36,834 --> 00:25:38,899 I think I really fell in love with the kitchen 574 00:25:38,968 --> 00:25:40,769 and the atmosphere. 575 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,235 I think the biggest thing is commitment, right? 576 00:25:45,304 --> 00:25:49,140 If you're not ready to be committed 150%, 577 00:25:50,441 --> 00:25:53,848 then maybe you wanna wait because once you go restaurant, 578 00:25:53,917 --> 00:25:55,016 you can't go un-restaurant. 579 00:25:55,085 --> 00:25:58,622 It's like, you got to give it your all really. 580 00:26:09,702 --> 00:26:11,767 I grew up in an immigrant family. 581 00:26:11,836 --> 00:26:13,868 My parents are from South Korea. 582 00:26:13,937 --> 00:26:17,036 They came over here, had my sister and me and my brother. 583 00:26:17,105 --> 00:26:22,107 And they needed a work obviously to support the family. 584 00:26:23,243 --> 00:26:24,253 We were raised by our grandparents. 585 00:26:24,277 --> 00:26:26,782 My grandma is this phenomenal cook. 586 00:26:26,851 --> 00:26:29,015 She grew all of her own produce. 587 00:26:29,084 --> 00:26:32,348 So we had this huge garden in our backyard. 588 00:26:32,417 --> 00:26:36,825 And I remember growing up, that was my favorite thing, 589 00:26:36,894 --> 00:26:38,761 hanging around with grandma, 590 00:26:38,830 --> 00:26:42,259 watering the garden, picking all the produce 591 00:26:42,328 --> 00:26:43,997 and then using that produce 592 00:26:44,066 --> 00:26:45,966 to cook whatever she's gonna cook at home. 593 00:26:46,035 --> 00:26:49,035 She made everything from scratch like gochujang 594 00:26:49,104 --> 00:26:50,773 even soy sauce. 595 00:26:50,842 --> 00:26:53,237 Going to school, after that I would run home 596 00:26:53,306 --> 00:26:57,076 to eat kalbi and kimchi with my grandma and cook with her. 597 00:26:57,145 --> 00:27:00,442 And that was one of my favorite memories 598 00:27:00,511 --> 00:27:02,312 of my childhood. 599 00:27:02,381 --> 00:27:04,149 My sister, we're the Choi sisters. 600 00:27:06,385 --> 00:27:07,484 - The Choi sisters. - Yeah. 601 00:27:07,553 --> 00:27:08,968 - It's like a nickname that we had for a while. 602 00:27:08,992 --> 00:27:10,023 - For a long, yeah. 603 00:27:10,092 --> 00:27:11,354 - Are you super close? 604 00:27:11,423 --> 00:27:13,356 - Super, super close, definitely. 605 00:27:13,425 --> 00:27:14,776 - People think it's a little weird 606 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,700 'cause we're too close. 607 00:27:16,769 --> 00:27:17,901 - In my life, 608 00:27:17,970 --> 00:27:21,034 my grandfather was kind of like the stand-in dad 609 00:27:21,103 --> 00:27:24,906 so I understand your bond with your grandmother especially. 610 00:27:24,975 --> 00:27:29,042 - She really taught me sort of how to love food. 611 00:27:29,111 --> 00:27:31,440 It's not like she taught me step-by-step 612 00:27:31,509 --> 00:27:32,980 how to make certain dishes. 613 00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:34,081 You know what I mean? 614 00:27:34,150 --> 00:27:36,819 It was more so her philosophy of cooking 615 00:27:36,888 --> 00:27:39,789 and why you should cook for people 616 00:27:39,858 --> 00:27:43,991 and how to show people that you care through food. 617 00:27:44,060 --> 00:27:45,060 - Ready? 618 00:28:11,318 --> 00:28:13,955 - Our family motto is love is patient 619 00:28:14,024 --> 00:28:16,089 and she's the one who established that 620 00:28:16,158 --> 00:28:17,893 and it's from the Bible. 621 00:28:17,962 --> 00:28:21,094 It's very inspiring and that's what we live by. 622 00:28:23,099 --> 00:28:25,769 - But there was one period of my childhood 623 00:28:25,838 --> 00:28:29,300 where my parents literally plucked me out of school, 624 00:28:29,369 --> 00:28:33,172 put me in a foreign school in South Korea. 625 00:28:33,241 --> 00:28:34,241 It was really difficult, 626 00:28:34,275 --> 00:28:35,619 but it was such an impactful time. 627 00:28:35,643 --> 00:28:40,278 Going back to sort of the roots being around this culture, 628 00:28:40,347 --> 00:28:42,511 it made me appreciate it a lot more. 629 00:28:42,580 --> 00:28:43,846 I remember the food. 630 00:28:43,915 --> 00:28:47,549 I remember the people, the kids that I hung out with 631 00:28:47,618 --> 00:28:50,453 and it was very inspirational for me. 632 00:28:50,522 --> 00:28:52,488 I went to school up until sixth grade 633 00:28:52,557 --> 00:28:53,701 and then my parents brought me back. 634 00:28:53,725 --> 00:28:56,558 I started working in a restaurant when I was 14 635 00:28:56,627 --> 00:28:59,803 at a Korean Japanese restaurant, really small. 636 00:28:59,872 --> 00:29:03,334 So I would run to work and work till midnight 637 00:29:03,403 --> 00:29:05,270 and then go back to school the next day. 638 00:29:05,339 --> 00:29:07,976 When I went to college and graduated from college, 639 00:29:08,045 --> 00:29:10,077 I've always had restaurant jobs. 640 00:29:10,146 --> 00:29:12,948 I was falling in love with it without knowing 641 00:29:13,017 --> 00:29:14,818 that I was falling in love with it. 642 00:29:15,954 --> 00:29:17,546 - Esther would find herself working 643 00:29:17,615 --> 00:29:20,483 amongst the biggest names in food television. 644 00:29:20,552 --> 00:29:25,059 - Honestly, Food Network was such a special time for me. 645 00:29:25,128 --> 00:29:27,490 Position that I chose was more like working 646 00:29:27,559 --> 00:29:31,494 with all of the top chefs, working on "Iron chef" 647 00:29:31,563 --> 00:29:34,101 and being probably one of the most powerful people 648 00:29:34,170 --> 00:29:36,136 on the team because literally, 649 00:29:36,205 --> 00:29:38,435 I was the one buying every single ingredient 650 00:29:38,504 --> 00:29:41,306 for all the chefs, the whole kitchen, 651 00:29:41,375 --> 00:29:43,044 sourcing it from all over the world, 652 00:29:43,113 --> 00:29:45,244 dealing with vendors, purveyors. 653 00:29:45,313 --> 00:29:47,279 It's like, if I didn't have that position 654 00:29:47,348 --> 00:29:51,052 at the Food Network, I probably wouldn't know 655 00:29:51,121 --> 00:29:53,285 how to do half the shit that I do now. 656 00:29:53,354 --> 00:29:56,420 Growing up watching these chefs on television, 657 00:29:56,489 --> 00:29:58,257 seeing what they do, it's amazing. 658 00:29:58,326 --> 00:30:00,127 So it was always kind of there 659 00:30:00,196 --> 00:30:02,492 that I knew I wanted to have my own place. 660 00:30:02,561 --> 00:30:03,894 And we came up with this concept 661 00:30:03,962 --> 00:30:09,037 of Korean ramen because ramen at the time was on the rise. 662 00:30:10,338 --> 00:30:12,052 I remember the day because it was New Year's Day, 663 00:30:12,076 --> 00:30:15,142 January 1st of 2014, they called me 664 00:30:15,211 --> 00:30:17,309 and told me that they're gonna give me this space. 665 00:30:17,378 --> 00:30:20,015 And then that's when the real scare, 666 00:30:20,084 --> 00:30:21,577 real fear started. 667 00:30:21,646 --> 00:30:24,415 Three weeks before I was supposed to open, 668 00:30:24,484 --> 00:30:27,319 the one person that I hired quit on me 669 00:30:27,388 --> 00:30:29,189 and then I had literally no staff 670 00:30:29,258 --> 00:30:31,224 and I was supposed to open in three weeks. 671 00:30:31,293 --> 00:30:35,294 My sister actually quit her job to join me 672 00:30:35,363 --> 00:30:36,363 and help me open this. 673 00:30:36,397 --> 00:30:38,396 She kind of like really came through 674 00:30:38,465 --> 00:30:41,300 and somehow we got through it and we did it. 675 00:30:41,369 --> 00:30:43,500 - One of Esther's culinary acquaintances 676 00:30:43,569 --> 00:30:46,635 is the incredible Chef Bao Bao. 677 00:30:46,704 --> 00:30:49,473 She joined us between lunch and dinner service. 678 00:30:49,542 --> 00:30:52,278 - I feel like it is a little bit intimidating 679 00:30:52,347 --> 00:30:54,280 in the beginning of course, 680 00:30:54,349 --> 00:30:59,318 but it's just about knowing who you are and just embracing 681 00:31:00,421 --> 00:31:02,057 that you are the female in the kitchen 682 00:31:02,126 --> 00:31:03,927 and it's fine, it's okay. 683 00:31:03,996 --> 00:31:05,654 There's different skills that you can use 684 00:31:05,723 --> 00:31:07,931 as a female as opposed to male. 685 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,935 And honestly, I really don't even like to discriminate like, 686 00:31:12,004 --> 00:31:13,464 "Oh, that person's a female." 687 00:31:13,533 --> 00:31:16,973 And my kitchen, I would say it's very 50/50. 688 00:31:17,042 --> 00:31:19,668 Actually, more women work in my kitchen than men. 689 00:31:19,737 --> 00:31:20,737 - Mine too. 690 00:31:20,771 --> 00:31:21,848 - It just happens to be like that. 691 00:31:21,872 --> 00:31:23,016 - Do you think that because you're women, 692 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,613 you attract more women to work in your kitchen? 693 00:31:25,682 --> 00:31:30,085 - Yes, and also a background story also attach those people 694 00:31:30,154 --> 00:31:32,956 to come in because they also believe in themselves 695 00:31:33,025 --> 00:31:34,320 that why can't I? 696 00:31:34,389 --> 00:31:36,619 If male can do it, why can't I? 697 00:31:36,688 --> 00:31:38,621 I just wanna show the skill 698 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:42,295 and trying to prove that they can do it too. 699 00:31:42,364 --> 00:31:47,102 So, I mean in Asia, most of family, 700 00:31:47,171 --> 00:31:50,138 the female will be the best cook in the family. 701 00:31:51,439 --> 00:31:55,242 We don't see that many males cook in our hometown, 702 00:31:55,311 --> 00:31:57,046 I mean in our country. 703 00:31:57,115 --> 00:32:00,115 But just when I moved here to this country, 704 00:32:00,184 --> 00:32:01,479 I see so many male chefs 705 00:32:01,548 --> 00:32:03,052 and I was like, "Wow!" 706 00:32:03,121 --> 00:32:04,165 - Where's all the females? 707 00:32:04,189 --> 00:32:05,648 - Yeah, where's all the females? 708 00:32:07,059 --> 00:32:08,358 - As I continued hearing 709 00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:11,192 how each of these chefs found their passion for cooking, 710 00:32:11,261 --> 00:32:12,701 I had found out about a rising star 711 00:32:12,757 --> 00:32:15,229 in Harlem, Juliet Masters. 712 00:32:15,298 --> 00:32:18,628 So I drove to The Edge to hear her incredible journey. 713 00:32:18,697 --> 00:32:22,269 ♪ You look so lovable ♪ 714 00:32:22,338 --> 00:32:24,469 - This business would not exist without family 715 00:32:24,538 --> 00:32:27,241 and it's not just our immediate family, 716 00:32:27,310 --> 00:32:30,310 but it's the family that we have in the kitchen, 717 00:32:30,379 --> 00:32:32,411 all the people who work with us. 718 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,612 We have people who have been with us from the beginning. 719 00:32:40,818 --> 00:32:43,290 And then we have the family of the neighborhood. 720 00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:45,556 We have a beautiful, lovely neighborhood. 721 00:32:45,625 --> 00:32:47,558 And we have a lot of people who walk by 722 00:32:47,627 --> 00:32:49,659 and stick their head in and say hi 723 00:32:49,728 --> 00:32:51,760 and know us when we come out. 724 00:32:51,829 --> 00:32:53,062 They look out for us. 725 00:32:53,130 --> 00:32:56,336 So the family includes obviously our immediate family, 726 00:32:56,405 --> 00:32:58,305 but it spreads out to our community. 727 00:32:58,374 --> 00:33:01,308 The people who have supported us who live down the block. 728 00:33:01,377 --> 00:33:05,510 Family is the backbone of this business. 729 00:33:09,616 --> 00:33:14,519 It trickles from Justine and Juliet, to Justine and Juliet, 730 00:33:14,588 --> 00:33:18,457 and mommy and daddy and son, and then to kitchen staff, 731 00:33:18,526 --> 00:33:21,262 and to floor staff and out into our community. 732 00:33:26,501 --> 00:33:27,763 We are Harlem. 733 00:33:28,668 --> 00:33:30,205 We've lived here for 20 years. 734 00:33:30,274 --> 00:33:31,470 We're from New York. 735 00:33:32,672 --> 00:33:34,242 So for us to open up this space, 736 00:33:34,311 --> 00:33:36,442 it's paying homage to the spirit 737 00:33:36,511 --> 00:33:39,742 of those who've come before us, but also to the fact 738 00:33:39,811 --> 00:33:42,481 that this the community demanded this space 739 00:33:42,550 --> 00:33:43,614 to be born as well. 740 00:33:45,850 --> 00:33:49,554 - The Edge sits on Edgecombe Avenue in Harlem. 741 00:33:49,623 --> 00:33:51,325 On Wednesdays, the restaurant is filled 742 00:33:51,394 --> 00:33:54,625 with subtle musical notes from jazz musicians, 743 00:33:54,694 --> 00:33:58,398 beautiful words of poets and others that are a reminder 744 00:33:58,467 --> 00:34:01,335 of the heritage that fills this space. 745 00:34:01,404 --> 00:34:03,238 On the roof of this building, 746 00:34:03,307 --> 00:34:07,275 notables such as Langston Hughes, Ethel Ray Nance, 747 00:34:07,344 --> 00:34:10,377 and Regina M. Anderson shared philosophies 748 00:34:10,446 --> 00:34:14,513 and literary art that lends to the history of Harlem. 749 00:34:14,582 --> 00:34:18,682 And now, it's home to two sisters whose close family ties 750 00:34:18,751 --> 00:34:20,783 were the right recipe to have what it takes 751 00:34:20,852 --> 00:34:22,785 to open this restaurant. 752 00:34:22,854 --> 00:34:25,128 Justine runs the front of the house 753 00:34:25,197 --> 00:34:27,460 and Juliet is the heart of the kitchen. 754 00:34:29,201 --> 00:34:31,695 - I always told Justine as her older sister I said, 755 00:34:31,764 --> 00:34:34,137 "One day we're gonna do something together." 756 00:34:35,636 --> 00:34:38,240 Life before the internet and phones and all that, 757 00:34:38,309 --> 00:34:39,604 there was a lot of pretend games 758 00:34:39,673 --> 00:34:40,939 so we pretended a lot. 759 00:34:41,008 --> 00:34:44,510 One of the things we pretended was having restaurants 760 00:34:44,579 --> 00:34:45,611 and serving people. 761 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,481 We were the hostesses, would make menus 762 00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:51,550 and prepare grapefruit and serve to my parents 763 00:34:51,619 --> 00:34:52,852 with orange juice. 764 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,851 We grew up as best friends. - Using our imagination. 765 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,721 - And using our imagination. 766 00:34:57,790 --> 00:35:02,198 We have remained best friends throughout life. 767 00:35:02,267 --> 00:35:04,365 We're not identical, we're not twins 768 00:35:04,434 --> 00:35:07,830 although everyone asks us every day, "Are we twins?" 769 00:35:07,899 --> 00:35:09,898 - Juliet Masters discovered the flavors 770 00:35:09,967 --> 00:35:12,901 of her childhood living in three distinct regions 771 00:35:12,970 --> 00:35:14,036 of the world. 772 00:35:14,104 --> 00:35:17,378 - New York wasn't that easy where we lived 773 00:35:17,447 --> 00:35:18,546 and when we lived there. 77kJg׏PhrƯ̄8fx֊-5AHEd[~lP{97 hOIt9Պk(㎼Eu_9wn1D aҏK#NW2Ƚ=Wb'{!ؾ=y PQX4^ |[k:$+#E]q+:Dq3R8Cqr&n$;1uC8ylDW*l.D7+I{gXx%y^ Í-ZmzTuܞMF-wlNO"]5 9+c}!j| 0i۲ \Fb* Ai٨|+%Hr6#JZ.]oe2Iiٱ^'=Nb.IrL45q{Z 3kCC1jœ&)vYQk$+Geu[k7-93]D}:-vkԙBAi0=?59w--35Wq=29*/q紤sG.@$H_C_x`z b;$z>1{[q5dq_ j]#\0(}Oý%iN \ s:ǜ2 s˺k.a+xNx)by_ML)+ hXnjnIC+k \ + >U8>^Efޙ) ^UO y±bK}TC}͑F"oG: rI|ז3Y}_uKVtϝ. 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