1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:21,313 --> 00:00:24,150 [Sound of rain falling] 4 00:00:30,656 --> 00:00:33,117 [Rain falling harder] 5 00:00:47,131 --> 00:00:49,216 [Rain and thunder stop] 6 00:00:52,845 --> 00:00:55,973 [Birds cawing] 7 00:00:59,018 --> 00:01:02,855 [Siren in distance] 8 00:01:08,402 --> 00:01:11,864 [Ambulance siren passing] 9 00:01:27,421 --> 00:01:29,757 [Bird's wings flapping] 10 00:01:33,302 --> 00:01:36,055 [Bird chortling] 11 00:01:40,059 --> 00:01:44,230 [Sound of bird's soft steps] 12 00:02:26,355 --> 00:02:29,817 [Scratching floor boards] 13 00:02:33,195 --> 00:02:36,907 [Ambulance siren in distance] 14 00:02:53,549 --> 00:02:57,011 [Birds cawing softly] 15 00:03:12,484 --> 00:03:14,653 [Sound of wings flapping] 16 00:03:15,070 --> 00:03:16,530 [Tongue zipping] 17 00:03:21,118 --> 00:03:24,079 [Intercom chiming] 18 00:03:44,350 --> 00:03:48,145 [Sound of approaching footsteps, of dropping receiver] 19 00:03:52,233 --> 00:03:54,068 [Sound of receiver replaced] 20 00:03:55,653 --> 00:03:58,280 [Footsteps] 21 00:04:03,911 --> 00:04:07,039 [Helicopter flying overhead] 22 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:18,425 [Doorbell ringing] 23 00:04:22,471 --> 00:04:24,306 [Doorbell ringing] 24 00:04:28,060 --> 00:04:30,145 [Footsteps] 25 00:04:40,030 --> 00:04:41,240 [Locks opening on front door] 26 00:06:07,368 --> 00:06:10,412 [Sound of light switch, door creaking open] 27 00:06:19,546 --> 00:06:20,381 [Door shutting tight] 28 00:12:44,014 --> 00:12:47,726 [Praying] 29 00:14:53,143 --> 00:14:55,645 [Sound of mixer whirring] 30 00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:50,617 [Sounds of birds cawing] 31 00:16:16,726 --> 00:16:21,815 [Wings flapping nearby, ambulance siren in distance] 32 00:16:26,277 --> 00:16:30,156 [Another ambulance siren] 33 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:34,220 ♪ [Mandolin music comes up] 34 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:31,402 ♪ [Mandolin music fades out] 35 00:18:52,382 --> 00:18:55,135 [Wind blowing outside] 36 00:18:58,304 --> 00:19:01,432 ♪ [Piano playing softly] 37 00:19:04,686 --> 00:19:07,564 [Little boy gurgling] 38 00:19:15,196 --> 00:19:17,699 [Cell phone ringing] 39 00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:21,411 [Cell phone ringing again] 40 00:20:51,709 --> 00:20:54,420 [Sound of bare feet running across parquet] 41 00:21:11,104 --> 00:21:13,564 [Hairdryer blowing] 42 00:21:18,194 --> 00:21:19,529 [Faraway fireworks] 43 00:21:27,870 --> 00:21:30,957 [More faraway fireworks] 44 00:22:00,153 --> 00:22:02,905 [More faraway fireworks] 45 00:22:47,283 --> 00:22:50,536 [Fireworks crackling] 46 00:26:05,147 --> 00:26:06,816 [Cell phone buzzing] 47 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,424 [Cell phone buzzing] 48 00:30:02,635 --> 00:30:05,846 ♪ [Piano playing softly] 49 00:32:12,723 --> 00:32:15,768 [Woman sighing in TV porn] 50 00:32:23,108 --> 00:32:25,069 [Sounds of turning off TV] 51 00:32:40,042 --> 00:32:42,419 [Sound of peeing] 52 00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:50,970 ♪ [Piano playing softly] 53 00:32:51,011 --> 00:32:52,429 [Toilet flushing] 54 00:33:05,943 --> 00:33:09,113 [Piano music with strings come up] 55 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,555 [Siren] 56 00:34:23,771 --> 00:34:26,482 ♪ [Cartoon singing] 57 00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:37,076 ♪ [Cartoon singing] 58 00:34:55,886 --> 00:34:57,888 [Faraway voice] 59 00:35:28,085 --> 00:35:31,255 [Door squeaking to close] 60 00:36:53,003 --> 00:36:54,755 [Clothes dropping] 61 00:38:17,421 --> 00:38:19,381 [Opening door] 62 00:38:25,387 --> 00:38:27,055 [Door closing] 63 00:38:51,788 --> 00:38:54,416 ♪ [Modern music comes up] 64 00:39:02,466 --> 00:39:05,844 ♪ [Muffled music coming in] 65 00:39:20,942 --> 00:39:24,196 ♪ [Music comes up loudly] 66 00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:27,115 [Talking to client] 67 00:39:40,670 --> 00:39:43,256 [Rolling fast, then collision and silence] 68 00:40:26,216 --> 00:40:28,051 [Sounds of faraway traffic] 69 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,692 [Sliding door] 70 00:40:48,697 --> 00:40:50,323 [Sound of lighter] 71 00:41:34,201 --> 00:41:37,412 [Baby crying inside apartment] 72 00:41:37,996 --> 00:41:39,915 [Sliding door closing] 73 00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:49,424 [Cell phone buzzing] 74 00:42:13,365 --> 00:42:16,701 ♪ [Piano playing softly] 75 00:42:54,990 --> 00:42:56,283 [Kids' playful voices] 76 00:42:56,324 --> 00:42:59,578 One, two, three, four, five, six... 77 00:42:59,869 --> 00:43:02,789 Six feet away! 78 00:43:02,872 --> 00:43:04,916 can you come over here and visit? 79 00:43:05,292 --> 00:43:07,586 [Kids babbling] 80 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,381 [Chime] 81 00:43:12,507 --> 00:43:14,426 I don't really have happy dreams... 82 00:43:14,884 --> 00:43:15,844 Yeah. 83 00:43:17,178 --> 00:43:20,056 I have to fill out this paperwork for my kids. 84 00:43:20,473 --> 00:43:21,975 They want to medicate them. 85 00:43:22,017 --> 00:43:24,436 I alone am fighting for the well-being 86 00:43:24,477 --> 00:43:26,855 and the safety and security of my children. 87 00:43:26,896 --> 00:43:31,484 Then on top of that, I'm also doing my work for this job 88 00:43:31,526 --> 00:43:36,448 that I have just got, working with troubled youth. 89 00:43:37,324 --> 00:43:39,534 So the fight continues on. 90 00:43:39,576 --> 00:43:40,702 [Broken voices] 91 00:43:42,287 --> 00:43:45,790 I started learning how to love at the age of 22 years old. 92 00:43:45,832 --> 00:43:47,584 [Weird sounds] 93 00:43:49,169 --> 00:43:51,338 You don't operate the phone! 94 00:43:51,379 --> 00:43:54,424 Hey, I gave Yay'veontay the task to operate the phone. 95 00:43:54,466 --> 00:43:56,301 So may you guys please allow him to do it? 96 00:43:56,343 --> 00:43:58,011 I'm gonna... 97 00:43:58,303 --> 00:43:59,888 [Kids chatting, laughing] 98 00:43:59,929 --> 00:44:03,516 Hey, one of you guys take the phone and go outside. 99 00:44:03,558 --> 00:44:04,476 Alright... 100 00:44:04,517 --> 00:44:05,435 Oww! 101 00:44:07,896 --> 00:44:10,273 You got your shoes on? 102 00:44:10,565 --> 00:44:11,566 Mhm! 103 00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:12,442 Alright. 104 00:44:13,860 --> 00:44:14,611 Go outside, like by the front door, and let's see 105 00:44:15,654 --> 00:44:16,905 how the reception is right there. 106 00:44:16,946 --> 00:44:18,448 I'm outside. 107 00:44:19,699 --> 00:44:21,576 Manieepoo! 108 00:44:22,202 --> 00:44:23,828 What's the deal, Mama? 109 00:44:24,496 --> 00:44:24,996 Nothing. 110 00:44:26,373 --> 00:44:28,792 The video works so much better with you outside. 111 00:44:29,501 --> 00:44:31,711 - Manieepoo? - Huh? 112 00:44:32,003 --> 00:44:35,757 Hey, Maniee, stay right there where the reception is good. 113 00:44:35,799 --> 00:44:38,009 [Kids' voices, chimes] 114 00:44:39,761 --> 00:44:41,096 Manieepoo? 115 00:44:44,307 --> 00:44:46,559 ♪ [Ominous theme music comes up] 116 00:44:46,601 --> 00:44:50,397 My three children were separated in all different foster homes. 117 00:44:50,438 --> 00:44:54,275 My children's mother and myself went through a hard break-up and 118 00:44:54,317 --> 00:44:57,779 we both could have conducted ourselves in a better fashion. 119 00:44:57,821 --> 00:44:58,863 And being that we didn't, 120 00:45:00,365 --> 00:45:01,825 it resulted in our children being taken from our custody 121 00:45:01,866 --> 00:45:05,578 by the Department of Children and Family Services. 122 00:45:08,081 --> 00:45:10,750 The current pandemic has not affected 123 00:45:10,792 --> 00:45:13,712 my current arrangements for visitation. 124 00:45:15,046 --> 00:45:16,423 [Weird sounds] 125 00:45:16,464 --> 00:45:18,258 Where are you? 126 00:45:18,299 --> 00:45:20,552 I'm not too far from you guys. 127 00:45:20,927 --> 00:45:22,637 Oh, can you come? 128 00:45:23,179 --> 00:45:24,431 Hmmm... 129 00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:27,517 If it's okay with your Auntie. 130 00:45:29,269 --> 00:45:31,646 I may be over there a little later. 131 00:45:32,313 --> 00:45:36,067 I am not able to come over there today but... 132 00:45:36,359 --> 00:45:38,737 Hey look, but on a more serious note, 133 00:45:38,778 --> 00:45:40,530 if you can, I really need you to pay attention 134 00:45:40,572 --> 00:45:42,365 to what I'm about to tell you. 135 00:45:42,407 --> 00:45:44,075 Wasn't there a shooting over there? 136 00:45:44,117 --> 00:45:46,161 Like yesterday or the night before last? 137 00:45:46,202 --> 00:45:48,538 If you're outside, right? And you hear gunshots, 138 00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:50,665 what are you supposed to do? 139 00:45:50,957 --> 00:45:52,709 - Look? - No... 140 00:45:52,751 --> 00:45:54,377 - Run? - No. 141 00:45:55,086 --> 00:45:57,922 - In back under a car - No. No. No. 142 00:45:57,964 --> 00:45:59,883 You get down, you prone out. 143 00:45:59,924 --> 00:46:02,302 You get as close to the earth as you can. 144 00:46:02,343 --> 00:46:04,220 You know why I'm telling you this, right? 145 00:46:04,262 --> 00:46:06,973 See that dog right there, that dog. 146 00:46:07,515 --> 00:46:08,641 What? 147 00:46:08,683 --> 00:46:10,310 The dog! 148 00:46:10,351 --> 00:46:13,146 - You don't see that dog? - I don't want... 149 00:46:13,688 --> 00:46:15,482 Okay, lemme see the dog. 150 00:46:15,857 --> 00:46:18,818 [Weird noises, children's voices] 151 00:46:26,826 --> 00:46:28,953 If you had super powers, Mama, 152 00:46:28,995 --> 00:46:31,247 what super powers would you want? 153 00:46:32,081 --> 00:46:33,291 To fly! 154 00:46:33,625 --> 00:46:34,834 Woo! 155 00:46:35,585 --> 00:46:36,461 There we go! 156 00:46:36,503 --> 00:46:38,421 I wanna be extremely fast... 157 00:46:38,463 --> 00:46:40,673 I had a dream that I... [Static] 158 00:46:40,715 --> 00:46:44,135 I chose that I could just run to dad every... 159 00:46:44,677 --> 00:46:48,431 My visitation with my children is at least once a week, 160 00:46:48,473 --> 00:46:52,519 for whatever amount of hours the caretaker allows. 161 00:46:54,270 --> 00:46:55,188 For seven years, 162 00:46:56,689 --> 00:46:59,317 I have been fighting tooth and nail to regain custody. 163 00:46:59,901 --> 00:47:02,862 I feel like I'm incomplete. 164 00:47:03,863 --> 00:47:07,325 Sometimes, I get so deep into my depression 165 00:47:07,367 --> 00:47:08,993 that I just wanna be alone, 166 00:47:09,035 --> 00:47:11,037 I don't want to interact with people. 167 00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:12,372 It's a fight. 168 00:47:12,831 --> 00:47:13,998 Yeah, it's a fight. 169 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,501 the biggest fight of my life. 170 00:47:16,793 --> 00:47:18,503 (Kid's voice) Six feet away! 171 00:47:18,545 --> 00:47:20,839 (Kid's voice) One, two, three, four, five, six... 172 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,299 Dad, when's the next time we go to court? 173 00:47:23,341 --> 00:47:25,844 We're supposed to go to court this month, 174 00:47:25,885 --> 00:47:28,638 the Covid-19 pandemic, 175 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,349 we was unable to go to court. 176 00:47:31,766 --> 00:47:34,811 So it can be next week, it can be next month, 177 00:47:34,853 --> 00:47:36,604 or it can be next year. 178 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,399 I wanna be the judge. 179 00:47:39,899 --> 00:47:42,861 So, okay, if you wanna be the judge, that's magnificent. 180 00:47:42,902 --> 00:47:45,196 Families going through what we going through, 181 00:47:45,238 --> 00:47:46,489 you can be able to better assist them 182 00:47:46,531 --> 00:47:47,782 because you went through it, right? 183 00:47:49,325 --> 00:47:52,245 First I'm gonna work as a dentist for a little bit then 184 00:47:52,537 --> 00:47:56,124 I'm gonna quit it... and be a judge. 185 00:47:56,165 --> 00:47:59,043 Well, I feel like we should discuss that... 186 00:47:59,085 --> 00:48:02,130 - a little bit more... - Six feet away! 187 00:48:02,505 --> 00:48:04,674 (Child's voice) Six feet away. 188 00:48:04,716 --> 00:48:07,135 I dream about my kids, yeah. 189 00:48:07,176 --> 00:48:09,470 And when I dream about my kids, it's just like... 190 00:48:09,512 --> 00:48:12,265 things as simple as having a meal together. 191 00:48:12,307 --> 00:48:13,975 You want some? 192 00:48:14,017 --> 00:48:15,435 Yeah, just gimme a bite. 193 00:48:17,896 --> 00:48:19,606 It's pepperoni. 194 00:48:20,899 --> 00:48:22,025 Conversations, 195 00:48:22,066 --> 00:48:23,568 being in the living room, 196 00:48:23,610 --> 00:48:24,986 watching TV... 197 00:48:25,028 --> 00:48:27,780 The things that a lot of people take for granted. 198 00:48:27,822 --> 00:48:29,908 Those are daydreams. 199 00:48:29,949 --> 00:48:31,910 Those aren't the physical dreams 200 00:48:31,951 --> 00:48:34,120 that I dream when I lay down at night, 201 00:48:34,162 --> 00:48:35,747 and try to sleep. 202 00:48:39,334 --> 00:48:41,586 I suffer from PTSD. 203 00:48:42,128 --> 00:48:45,298 My dreams is rooted in the hardships that 204 00:48:45,340 --> 00:48:48,468 God has blessed me so far to escape. 205 00:48:49,010 --> 00:48:51,054 Being homeless as a child, 206 00:48:51,095 --> 00:48:52,430 being beaten, 207 00:48:52,472 --> 00:48:54,641 being neglected, you know? 208 00:48:57,101 --> 00:48:59,187 Some nights I don't sleep. 209 00:48:59,228 --> 00:49:00,104 [Cacophony] 210 00:49:01,230 --> 00:49:02,565 Hey, what's going on, Yay'veontay? 211 00:49:02,607 --> 00:49:04,734 Good, where you at? Why won't you come? 212 00:49:04,776 --> 00:49:08,237 You guys are my children, of course I'm gonna be there. 213 00:49:08,655 --> 00:49:09,614 What's up, Dad? 214 00:49:09,656 --> 00:49:11,866 What's going on, brother? 215 00:49:11,908 --> 00:49:13,952 [Kids' voices] 216 00:49:16,871 --> 00:49:18,915 You look real nice with your glasses. 217 00:49:18,957 --> 00:49:20,291 Why didn't you put your bow on? 218 00:49:20,333 --> 00:49:22,627 Why didn't you put it right here? 219 00:49:22,669 --> 00:49:24,337 Like that? 220 00:49:24,379 --> 00:49:26,172 Dang! I forgot about that... 221 00:49:26,214 --> 00:49:28,007 You forgot? Wait, come here! 222 00:49:28,049 --> 00:49:30,009 Can I take a picture of you? 223 00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:34,889 ♪ [Theme music comes up softly] 224 00:49:35,348 --> 00:49:36,975 I'm happy that my children 225 00:49:37,016 --> 00:49:39,811 were finally able to be placed in the same residence, 226 00:49:39,852 --> 00:49:42,814 and placed in the care of family members. 227 00:49:43,982 --> 00:49:46,401 We're hopeful that, on the next court date, 228 00:49:46,442 --> 00:49:48,736 They're gonna liberalize my visits. 229 00:49:48,778 --> 00:49:50,488 I'll be able to go get my kids, 230 00:49:50,530 --> 00:49:51,864 and spend about 5 hours with them 231 00:49:51,906 --> 00:49:53,408 take 'em wherever I want to take 'em, 232 00:49:53,449 --> 00:49:56,869 and at the end of that 5 hours, drop them back off. 233 00:49:58,121 --> 00:49:59,372 Is you crying? 234 00:49:59,414 --> 00:50:00,206 Say no. 235 00:50:01,249 --> 00:50:02,208 - Cause you're a big man? - Yeah. 236 00:50:02,250 --> 00:50:03,918 Papa, is you a big man? 237 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,004 Yes, y'all is. Then you got 238 00:50:06,045 --> 00:50:06,796 Yay'veontay! 239 00:50:07,755 --> 00:50:09,215 Yay'veontay, right there, man! 240 00:50:10,008 --> 00:50:12,135 Say cheese. Don't cry, okay? 241 00:50:15,638 --> 00:50:17,223 Stop crying. 242 00:50:17,724 --> 00:50:19,017 Wipe your face. 243 00:50:19,058 --> 00:50:20,685 You're a big girl. 244 00:50:20,727 --> 00:50:23,312 Daddy gonna come back and see you, okay? 245 00:50:23,354 --> 00:50:24,897 Don't cry. 246 00:50:26,065 --> 00:50:27,775 You're gonna be alright. 247 00:50:28,317 --> 00:50:30,903 Sometimes, I'm not capable of physically 248 00:50:30,945 --> 00:50:32,822 reaching out and touching my kids, 249 00:50:32,864 --> 00:50:33,698 but spiritually, 250 00:50:35,158 --> 00:50:36,909 we're connected and they know their father is there. 251 00:50:36,951 --> 00:50:38,995 Periodically, I dream about my kids, 252 00:50:39,037 --> 00:50:40,288 us flying... 253 00:50:41,831 --> 00:50:45,668 We'll all be together, holding hands, flying, laughing... 254 00:50:46,127 --> 00:50:49,505 Swimming, without having to come up for air... 255 00:50:49,547 --> 00:50:52,425 Being able to be free, and defy the limitations 256 00:50:52,467 --> 00:50:54,635 that the physical put on us. 257 00:50:54,677 --> 00:50:56,804 These dreams bring me peace. 258 00:50:57,305 --> 00:50:59,807 Yeah, peace, peace. 259 00:51:02,477 --> 00:51:05,521 My love, my sunshine, my dear... 260 00:51:05,897 --> 00:51:09,817 ♪ [Theme music comes up powerfully] 261 00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:16,324 ♪ [Theme music ends] 262 00:51:44,435 --> 00:51:46,062 ♪ [Strange theme music] 263 00:51:47,522 --> 00:51:49,524 [Fly buzzing by] 264 00:52:01,828 --> 00:52:03,454 [Microphone static] 265 00:52:04,914 --> 00:52:06,499 Is this recording? No? 266 00:52:06,541 --> 00:52:07,959 Is this recording? 267 00:52:09,752 --> 00:52:11,212 Hi Laura... 268 00:52:11,254 --> 00:52:14,507 So you asked me to start sending memos about 269 00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:16,968 this ongoing investigation. 270 00:52:18,344 --> 00:52:19,804 Uhmm... 271 00:52:20,138 --> 00:52:20,888 So like this... 272 00:52:21,889 --> 00:52:22,723 We were watching the news about 273 00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:24,934 the spread of surveillance technology 274 00:52:24,976 --> 00:52:26,519 for Corona tracing. 275 00:52:26,561 --> 00:52:29,772 So, the way that kind of global viral emergency 276 00:52:29,814 --> 00:52:32,150 is used to roll out the surveillance projects 277 00:52:32,191 --> 00:52:34,652 in different parts of the world. 278 00:52:38,489 --> 00:52:41,492 One company name was always there... 279 00:52:42,535 --> 00:52:44,495 NSO Group. 280 00:52:44,537 --> 00:52:47,039 So, we already wanted for a long time 281 00:52:47,081 --> 00:52:49,876 to start an investigation on the NSO 282 00:52:49,917 --> 00:52:52,628 NSO software was used to target 283 00:52:52,670 --> 00:52:54,839 our colleagues and friends. 284 00:52:55,590 --> 00:52:59,093 We know that you know what it feels to be surveilled, 285 00:52:59,135 --> 00:53:02,597 that surveillance is not only a breach of privacy, 286 00:53:02,638 --> 00:53:04,056 that it is violence, 287 00:53:04,098 --> 00:53:06,142 that it does things to you, 288 00:53:06,184 --> 00:53:09,770 that things start to happen to you in the real world... 289 00:53:09,812 --> 00:53:11,230 And then it spreads across 290 00:53:11,272 --> 00:53:13,065 your network of friends, colleagues, 291 00:53:13,107 --> 00:53:15,359 and stakeholders or clients... 292 00:53:15,651 --> 00:53:19,155 And that being targeted feels like terror. 293 00:53:22,783 --> 00:53:24,785 [Sound of loading truck outside] 294 00:53:29,707 --> 00:53:32,001 [Sound of truck pulling out] 295 00:53:38,257 --> 00:53:41,552 ♪ [Chimes sounding] 296 00:53:46,349 --> 00:53:50,937 ♪ [Chimes transforming into theme music] 297 00:53:58,819 --> 00:54:01,197 If I'm an organization paying a lot of money 298 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,865 for each targeting hack, 299 00:54:02,907 --> 00:54:05,201 the right thing is to target a person 300 00:54:05,243 --> 00:54:07,286 at the center of the network. 301 00:54:07,328 --> 00:54:11,415 Carmen is the head person of the matrix. 302 00:54:11,457 --> 00:54:14,794 So how can you imagine, Nathan, 303 00:54:14,835 --> 00:54:17,922 a way of visualizing something like that? 304 00:54:17,964 --> 00:54:18,839 Uhmm... 305 00:54:20,299 --> 00:54:22,134 There is a way to illustrate it through the events. 306 00:54:22,635 --> 00:54:24,136 ♪ [Chimes sounding] 307 00:54:24,428 --> 00:54:27,348 Anything that's a sphere is an attack. 308 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,016 It means that 309 00:54:29,308 --> 00:54:32,228 this person on the timeline has been directly targeted 310 00:54:32,270 --> 00:54:34,480 by that act of violence. 311 00:54:34,939 --> 00:54:36,983 So, it might be a digital act of violence 312 00:54:37,024 --> 00:54:38,526 or a physical act of violence, 313 00:54:38,567 --> 00:54:40,653 but it's a direct attack on that person. 314 00:54:42,905 --> 00:54:45,741 When Carmen was first targeted, 315 00:54:45,783 --> 00:54:47,451 if she clicked on that, 316 00:54:47,493 --> 00:54:49,412 it's quite possible they gained access 317 00:54:49,453 --> 00:54:50,955 to all the conversations she was having 318 00:54:50,997 --> 00:54:52,623 with all of the members of her team. 319 00:54:52,665 --> 00:54:55,209 So, from Carmen, and they attack everybody else. 320 00:54:55,251 --> 00:54:59,380 And then in 2016, that's when five subjects raid her office. 321 00:55:00,256 --> 00:55:04,051 ♪ [Strange music] 322 00:55:10,182 --> 00:55:11,726 Hola Carmen! 323 00:55:11,767 --> 00:55:14,186 I am the lead researcher 324 00:55:14,228 --> 00:55:17,148 on this project with Forensic Architecture. 325 00:55:17,690 --> 00:55:22,194 We're focusing specifically on the targeted digital violence of 326 00:55:22,236 --> 00:55:25,865 the Israeli cyber weapons manufacturer, NSO Group, 327 00:55:25,906 --> 00:55:28,617 and the use of Pegasus around the world. 328 00:55:28,993 --> 00:55:30,494 You are one of... 329 00:55:30,536 --> 00:55:32,663 the first persons that was documented 330 00:55:32,705 --> 00:55:34,540 by Citizen Lab as being 331 00:55:34,582 --> 00:55:37,335 targeted using Pegasus. 332 00:55:59,231 --> 00:56:01,567 Can you describe what you remember 333 00:56:01,609 --> 00:56:03,819 as the first message you received? 334 00:56:03,861 --> 00:56:05,154 The hacks? 335 00:56:54,829 --> 00:56:57,331 [Footsteps] 336 00:57:00,042 --> 00:57:03,254 Hi Laura, I hope you're okay... 337 00:57:03,295 --> 00:57:06,257 So last night, I had horrible dreams. 338 00:57:06,298 --> 00:57:09,135 I dreamt that I was being interrogated, 339 00:57:09,176 --> 00:57:13,431 and I woke up with extreme anxiety and in cold sweats, 340 00:57:13,472 --> 00:57:16,350 and the first thought that came to my mind was, 341 00:57:16,392 --> 00:57:18,644 "Are we making a huge mistake?" 342 00:57:18,686 --> 00:57:20,771 I don't want to get too paranoid, 343 00:57:20,813 --> 00:57:22,606 but I'm also thinking at the same time 344 00:57:22,648 --> 00:57:24,692 that we've never had to come across 345 00:57:24,733 --> 00:57:27,278 a company like the NSO group 346 00:57:27,319 --> 00:57:29,155 They're very lawsuit happy, 347 00:57:29,196 --> 00:57:31,157 they go after people, they intimidate... 348 00:57:31,198 --> 00:57:33,492 Every single person we've spoken to so far, 349 00:57:33,534 --> 00:57:36,745 whether they're journalists, lawyers suing them, researchers, 350 00:57:36,787 --> 00:57:39,039 or people who've been targeted, they're all telling us 351 00:57:39,081 --> 00:57:42,042 this company tries to intimidate, to scare, 352 00:57:42,084 --> 00:57:43,335 to make your life hell, 353 00:57:43,377 --> 00:57:45,463 just so that you go away. 354 00:57:46,297 --> 00:57:48,924 ♪ [Mysterious theme music] 355 00:58:15,075 --> 00:58:17,870 As an Arab, we have interest in 356 00:58:17,912 --> 00:58:20,289 what is going on in the Arab world. 357 00:58:20,623 --> 00:58:23,375 it's like a personal matter 358 00:58:23,417 --> 00:58:26,128 as well as a legal matter. 359 00:58:26,170 --> 00:58:28,589 This is not the first time that we've been targeted 360 00:58:28,631 --> 00:58:30,049 or that we were under surveillance 361 00:58:30,090 --> 00:58:31,342 by the Indian state. 362 00:58:31,383 --> 00:58:33,385 A lot of my contacts, when I told them, 363 00:58:33,427 --> 00:58:34,512 look this is happening to me, 364 00:58:35,971 --> 00:58:37,306 They said, "We always presumed this would happen to you 365 00:58:37,348 --> 00:58:39,850 "so don't worry, we all prepared for it. 366 00:58:39,892 --> 00:58:42,561 "You must be doing something really wonderful 367 00:58:42,603 --> 00:58:44,271 the government's spending 368 00:58:44,313 --> 00:58:46,023 a lot of money on this." 369 00:58:47,107 --> 00:58:48,651 These are the phones. 370 00:58:50,778 --> 00:58:52,154 They're all active? 371 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:53,864 All active. 372 00:58:54,907 --> 00:58:58,369 when you study journalism, 373 00:58:58,410 --> 00:59:00,287 you take for granted that 374 00:59:00,329 --> 00:59:02,998 the government is going to be after you. 375 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,917 And we are the lucky ones 376 00:59:04,959 --> 00:59:07,962 use in so many regions in Mexico, 377 00:59:08,003 --> 00:59:10,381 they get a bullet, they don't get a message... 378 00:59:10,422 --> 00:59:11,966 They get a bullet. 379 00:59:12,007 --> 00:59:13,592 ♪ [Mysterious theme music] 380 00:59:36,740 --> 00:59:38,659 I'm not sure we can make the argument 381 00:59:38,701 --> 00:59:40,369 the NSO is enabling, 382 00:59:40,411 --> 00:59:42,955 in terms of operationalizing its surveillance 383 00:59:42,997 --> 00:59:44,248 into direct violence, 384 00:59:44,290 --> 00:59:46,500 is new territory, right? 385 00:59:47,418 --> 00:59:50,963 I mean the CIA and NSA do that all the time. 386 00:59:51,005 --> 00:59:53,549 What I think is new is that we can see the fingerprints 387 00:59:53,591 --> 00:59:54,883 and we can show it. 388 00:59:54,925 --> 00:59:57,303 I think that that points to something that 389 00:59:57,344 --> 00:59:59,388 I would say might be new territory, 390 00:59:59,430 --> 01:00:02,683 which is a private company manufacturing and selling 391 01:00:02,725 --> 01:00:05,436 nation state-level cyberweapons. 392 01:00:12,359 --> 01:00:15,738 There is something of a viral logic 393 01:00:15,779 --> 01:00:18,407 about this form of targeting 394 01:00:18,449 --> 01:00:22,077 in a way that it spreads between family members, 395 01:00:22,411 --> 01:00:26,165 but also the people that investigate those crimes. 396 01:00:26,206 --> 01:00:29,627 If we know that X activist was targeted on this date 397 01:00:29,668 --> 01:00:31,420 and then immediately following that, 398 01:00:31,462 --> 01:00:33,464 something physical happened... 399 01:00:33,505 --> 01:00:35,716 Like if one of those threads could be drawn 400 01:00:35,758 --> 01:00:36,634 through the database. 401 01:00:38,052 --> 01:00:39,970 This is the underlying logic of this investigation... 402 01:00:40,262 --> 01:00:43,307 Digital vs. physical violence. So let's start with that. 403 01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:45,517 Look at the same pattern, 404 01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:49,396 across in when and how does it happen in Mexico, 405 01:00:49,438 --> 01:00:53,776 when and how does this kind of relation happen in the UAE, 406 01:00:53,817 --> 01:00:56,278 when it happens in Rwanda, when it happens in India, 407 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,072 if you have data about that, 408 01:00:58,113 --> 01:01:00,658 and find a way to move 409 01:01:00,699 --> 01:01:03,285 between one field of operation to the other. 410 01:01:03,869 --> 01:01:07,164 All the information is there, but this is now 411 01:01:07,206 --> 01:01:09,208 the mobilization of the data. 412 01:01:09,249 --> 01:01:11,335 It is not now about simply plotting 413 01:01:11,377 --> 01:01:13,462 because this material is being plotted, 414 01:01:13,504 --> 01:01:16,006 political events are there plotted on a timeline, 415 01:01:16,048 --> 01:01:18,050 there are physical events... 416 01:01:18,092 --> 01:01:20,844 It's now you have all the strings, 417 01:01:20,886 --> 01:01:23,389 and now you start playing music on them. 418 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:25,933 You go like, "I'm just gonna use these notes." 419 01:01:25,974 --> 01:01:28,560 Ta, ta, ta, ta... is targeting. 420 01:01:29,144 --> 01:01:31,730 ♪ [Singular notes plucked] 421 01:01:31,772 --> 01:01:33,691 I'm gonna zoom in a little. 422 01:01:33,982 --> 01:01:36,151 So if we go into the front view, 423 01:01:36,193 --> 01:01:38,570 here we have the field of Mexico... 424 01:01:39,071 --> 01:01:42,533 So, from on top, it appears just as a line... 425 01:01:44,201 --> 01:01:47,579 collapsed into a single field. So this is Mexico. 426 01:01:48,122 --> 01:01:51,291 But then if we view it from the side, 427 01:01:51,333 --> 01:01:54,878 we see all of the targets, all the people who've been targeted 428 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,006 by NSO software inside Mexico. 429 01:01:58,048 --> 01:02:00,551 So when we're seeing it in 3D, for example, 430 01:02:00,592 --> 01:02:05,139 we can see that some targets are operating in multiple fields, 431 01:02:05,180 --> 01:02:08,475 for example, Mazen and Citizen Lab operate 432 01:02:08,517 --> 01:02:11,645 in Mexico, Saudi Arabia and UAE. 433 01:02:11,687 --> 01:02:15,691 Our current database includes every event that we have 434 01:02:15,733 --> 01:02:18,902 which is an attack that's been performed using NSO software. 435 01:02:18,944 --> 01:02:20,821 And that database lists all the people 436 01:02:20,863 --> 01:02:22,865 that have been targeted by 437 01:02:22,906 --> 01:02:25,117 the state that has bought NSO software 438 01:02:25,159 --> 01:02:27,244 and is doing the targeting. 439 01:02:29,329 --> 01:02:33,292 ♪ [Singular notes plucked] 440 01:02:33,876 --> 01:02:36,253 I remember the moment when the project 441 01:02:36,295 --> 01:02:38,338 gained urgency in my mind, 442 01:02:38,380 --> 01:02:40,424 and that was with Fleming. 443 01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:45,637 This is NSO's first so-called "civilian product." 444 01:02:45,929 --> 01:02:49,641 It was described as a contact tracing tool to monitor both 445 01:02:49,683 --> 01:02:52,060 those who had caught Covid-19, 446 01:02:52,102 --> 01:02:56,231 but also those that they had come into contact with. 447 01:02:56,273 --> 01:03:00,611 It was reported that Fleming had been marketed to 448 01:03:00,652 --> 01:03:03,864 dozens of health ministries around the world. 449 01:03:05,741 --> 01:03:08,368 So, it was a set of alarm bells in my mind 450 01:03:08,410 --> 01:03:11,121 that the same cyber weapons manufacturer 451 01:03:11,163 --> 01:03:13,582 that had targeted former collaborators 452 01:03:13,624 --> 01:03:14,666 of Forensic Architecture, 453 01:03:16,126 --> 01:03:17,961 targeted my own personal friends and colleagues, 454 01:03:18,003 --> 01:03:20,714 and these are all human rights activists, 455 01:03:20,756 --> 01:03:23,634 researchers, lawyers, journalists... 456 01:03:23,675 --> 01:03:27,471 This same company is now offering its services 457 01:03:27,513 --> 01:03:31,350 to deal with private health details. 458 01:03:31,642 --> 01:03:34,561 ♪ [Mysterious theme music] 459 01:03:34,603 --> 01:03:38,774 When I first started working on these cases, 460 01:03:39,274 --> 01:03:41,902 it was clear that 461 01:03:41,944 --> 01:03:44,655 we're dealing with a company that 462 01:03:44,696 --> 01:03:47,699 does not have a lot of respect for human rights. 463 01:03:47,741 --> 01:03:50,994 Also if you look at the reporting about the company, 464 01:03:51,036 --> 01:03:52,496 the value of the company, 465 01:03:52,788 --> 01:03:54,665 the money that's involved, 466 01:03:54,706 --> 01:03:56,959 we're talking about hundreds of millions of dollars. 467 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:58,919 Of course a lot of the people in Mexico 468 01:03:58,961 --> 01:04:01,797 that you represent have lost their jobs, 469 01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:04,633 they've had their offices broken into, 470 01:04:04,675 --> 01:04:06,927 they've had their partners killed. 471 01:04:06,969 --> 01:04:11,056 And so the state kills 43 students in Ayotzinapa, 472 01:04:11,098 --> 01:04:13,725 people report on it, they get hacked, 473 01:04:13,767 --> 01:04:16,854 lawyers get targeted, and so on. 474 01:04:16,895 --> 01:04:19,356 And so a lot of what we're seeing 475 01:04:19,398 --> 01:04:21,483 along the way is this escalation, 476 01:04:21,525 --> 01:04:24,027 this rise in the way that people are targeted. 477 01:04:24,069 --> 01:04:26,572 Not only they would gather information, 478 01:04:26,613 --> 01:04:28,991 but also they can send messages. 479 01:04:29,575 --> 01:04:35,664 So they can start managing your relationship with people 480 01:04:35,706 --> 01:04:39,209 by sending them all kind of information, 481 01:04:39,251 --> 01:04:42,087 messages that supposedly come from you. 482 01:04:42,129 --> 01:04:47,134 It's like somebody's sitting in your mind. 483 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,683 The NSO group stands for the 3 persons 484 01:04:54,725 --> 01:04:57,352 who founded the company in 2010. 485 01:04:57,394 --> 01:05:00,522 Shalev Hulio is the S in NSO and 486 01:05:00,564 --> 01:05:02,691 perhaps the more well-known of the three. 487 01:05:02,733 --> 01:05:05,485 He's not exactly a technical wizard. 488 01:05:05,527 --> 01:05:08,405 He did not serve in Unit 8200, 489 01:05:08,447 --> 01:05:11,325 which is the intelligence unit in the Israeli Army. 490 01:05:11,366 --> 01:05:13,452 But Shalev Hulio did serve in the Israeli Army, 491 01:05:13,493 --> 01:05:14,453 and as a commander, 492 01:05:15,913 --> 01:05:16,788 he was involved in a series of operations 493 01:05:16,830 --> 01:05:18,665 in the occupied West Bank. 494 01:05:18,707 --> 01:05:20,959 One of his operations was during the height 495 01:05:21,001 --> 01:05:23,545 of the Second Intifada in 2002, 496 01:05:23,587 --> 01:05:26,423 Operation Defensive Shield. 497 01:05:26,465 --> 01:05:29,051 extremely destructive operation 498 01:05:29,092 --> 01:05:31,470 involved sending soldiers 499 01:05:31,511 --> 01:05:35,015 straight through the walls of Palestinian homes, so 500 01:05:35,057 --> 01:05:36,683 instead of fighting their way 501 01:05:36,725 --> 01:05:38,310 through the alleyways of the camp, 502 01:05:38,352 --> 01:05:41,104 Israeli soldiers would smash their way 503 01:05:41,146 --> 01:05:43,607 through civilian homes to clear a path, 504 01:05:43,649 --> 01:05:46,777 blasting their way through the built environment, 505 01:05:46,818 --> 01:05:50,405 and mobilizing people's homes against their bodies. 506 01:05:58,830 --> 01:06:02,417 Do you currently...? Do you hold a security clearance right now? 507 01:06:02,459 --> 01:06:06,004 Nope, I've been this whistleblower guy in the past. 508 01:06:06,046 --> 01:06:09,383 My interests lie in helping to get 509 01:06:09,424 --> 01:06:11,843 whatever should be public, public. 510 01:06:12,761 --> 01:06:15,097 So you can think of me as a 511 01:06:15,138 --> 01:06:18,141 solutions executive with a software company. 512 01:06:18,183 --> 01:06:21,269 What it boiled down to was that we had access to the networks, 513 01:06:21,311 --> 01:06:23,730 and NSO was looking for access. 514 01:06:23,772 --> 01:06:25,983 So the access to the network would be... 515 01:06:26,024 --> 01:06:28,777 They would get a global title. 516 01:06:28,819 --> 01:06:30,654 They would have a piece of software into it 517 01:06:30,696 --> 01:06:31,738 that would have access 518 01:06:31,780 --> 01:06:33,865 to the live operator network. 519 01:06:34,408 --> 01:06:36,034 This was a conference call. 520 01:06:36,076 --> 01:06:39,371 They were very hesitant to share their names. 521 01:06:39,413 --> 01:06:41,790 I took their names and email addresses 522 01:06:41,832 --> 01:06:44,292 just in the event something bad were to happen. 523 01:06:44,751 --> 01:06:47,212 So I met with all these people... 524 01:06:47,254 --> 01:06:50,215 Omri, Eddy Shalev, Eran Gorev... 525 01:06:51,466 --> 01:06:52,718 Wow. 526 01:06:54,261 --> 01:06:56,263 There's a tremendous amount of value in that, 527 01:06:56,304 --> 01:06:59,516 to get access to operator signaling networks. 528 01:06:59,558 --> 01:07:01,476 It made me very uncomfortable. 529 01:07:02,728 --> 01:07:06,023 I did reach out to the FBI, multiple times... 530 01:07:06,064 --> 01:07:09,067 Do you know what happened with that information? 531 01:07:09,109 --> 01:07:12,571 I don't know, it was very silent after that. 532 01:07:13,780 --> 01:07:16,825 It's gonna take a second to process this. 533 01:07:16,867 --> 01:07:18,577 And are you in a position 534 01:07:18,618 --> 01:07:20,912 where you could provide access globally 535 01:07:20,954 --> 01:07:23,582 or just in the US or in what countries? 536 01:07:24,750 --> 01:07:25,876 Globally. 537 01:07:27,627 --> 01:07:29,337 In July, I had a meeting with some executives at the NSO Group 538 01:07:29,379 --> 01:07:32,132 who provides black box spyware for global governments... 539 01:07:32,174 --> 01:07:35,594 They requested access to mobile networks via our software 540 01:07:35,635 --> 01:07:38,013 and offered cash payments... 541 01:07:48,940 --> 01:07:50,776 Hey, it's me. 542 01:07:50,817 --> 01:07:53,361 So I'm having all these flashbacks. 543 01:07:53,403 --> 01:07:55,947 The first time Snowden contacted me, 544 01:07:55,989 --> 01:07:58,992 I was sitting here, I was in this room. 545 01:08:00,494 --> 01:08:03,205 There was a kind of demarcation 546 01:08:03,246 --> 01:08:06,166 of my life, before and after. 547 01:08:06,583 --> 01:08:07,959 Those I could trust, 548 01:08:08,001 --> 01:08:10,337 and then people who enter my life after, 549 01:08:10,378 --> 01:08:13,090 who are always in question, right? 550 01:08:13,131 --> 01:08:14,508 Uhmm... 551 01:08:14,549 --> 01:08:16,718 And even the people you knew before 552 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,553 can always be flipped. 553 01:08:21,681 --> 01:08:23,016 And so... 554 01:08:24,184 --> 01:08:27,145 Listening to people tell this story 555 01:08:27,187 --> 01:08:29,397 about this kind of surveillance... 556 01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,734 It just hits home, right? It's super unnerving. 557 01:08:38,115 --> 01:08:40,784 from my country under 558 01:08:40,826 --> 01:08:43,161 the risk of being arrested. 559 01:08:44,079 --> 01:08:48,708 The field that I'm focusing on, it's a very sensitive field. 560 01:08:48,750 --> 01:08:54,798 I'm trying to record the violations of human rights, 561 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,093 how they treat prisoners, detainees, 562 01:08:58,135 --> 01:09:00,137 if they were tortured... 563 01:09:00,178 --> 01:09:03,807 And my father, he is one of the detainees so 564 01:09:03,849 --> 01:09:07,853 I want to speak about him, and raise his case. 565 01:09:07,894 --> 01:09:11,523 And I'm his daughter, I have to do something. 566 01:09:11,565 --> 01:09:12,941 I have to tell you, 567 01:09:12,983 --> 01:09:15,277 as you're talking I'm trying to... 568 01:09:15,318 --> 01:09:17,904 Laura has definitely her experiences 569 01:09:17,946 --> 01:09:20,866 targeted and surveilled. 570 01:09:20,907 --> 01:09:25,370 My experiences with state violence are... 571 01:09:25,662 --> 01:09:27,956 have so far been more physical. 572 01:09:28,248 --> 01:09:31,293 In my family, we left Iran when we were young, 573 01:09:31,334 --> 01:09:34,629 and I'm just thinking that we left for political reasons, 574 01:09:34,671 --> 01:09:36,840 my parents were both political prisoners, 575 01:09:36,882 --> 01:09:39,718 and when we came here, we continued our politics... 576 01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:41,761 We would go to protest every week 577 01:09:41,803 --> 01:09:44,222 with other Iranian, Afghan... 578 01:09:44,598 --> 01:09:47,142 Kurdish refugees. 579 01:09:47,434 --> 01:09:49,102 My mother was part of the 580 01:09:49,144 --> 01:09:51,688 International Federation of Iranian Refugees, 581 01:09:51,730 --> 01:09:55,192 and she did it here because she was away from Iran. 582 01:09:55,233 --> 01:09:57,569 If she were to do that today, 583 01:09:57,611 --> 01:09:59,988 the Islamic Republic would be able to 584 01:10:00,030 --> 01:10:03,200 reach out and touch her, so to speak, 585 01:10:03,241 --> 01:10:05,243 in the way that your home government 586 01:10:05,285 --> 01:10:07,537 is reaching out and touching you. 587 01:10:07,579 --> 01:10:12,417 It's a completely different ball game for activists, 588 01:10:12,459 --> 01:10:16,213 and especially activists coming from places where... 589 01:10:17,464 --> 01:10:21,384 There is much more of a physical cost in resisting. 590 01:10:22,344 --> 01:10:25,263 ♪ [Mysterious theme music] 591 01:11:03,677 --> 01:11:05,512 between digital violence 592 01:11:05,553 --> 01:11:06,972 and physical violence 593 01:11:07,013 --> 01:11:09,557 becomes the most clear when we look at the cases 594 01:11:09,599 --> 01:11:11,393 from Saudi Arabia. 595 01:11:12,519 --> 01:11:14,354 ♪ [Mysterious theme music] 596 01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:20,944 He's writing articles, he's doing columns, 597 01:11:20,986 --> 01:11:22,028 he's giving talks. 598 01:11:23,363 --> 01:11:25,407 Then Omar Abdulazziz and Khashoggi communicate, 599 01:11:25,448 --> 01:11:26,825 and right after that, 600 01:11:26,866 --> 01:11:28,743 Abdulazziz gets targeted digitally. 601 01:11:29,035 --> 01:11:32,289 They communicated almost on a daily basis. 602 01:11:32,330 --> 01:11:35,000 That means that all the messages 603 01:11:35,041 --> 01:11:37,752 that they exchanged were there to be hacked 604 01:11:37,794 --> 01:11:40,463 because they were all saved on the WhatsApp account. 605 01:11:40,505 --> 01:11:44,926 That was a treasure that the government of Saudi Arabia found 606 01:11:44,968 --> 01:11:49,514 because they just discovered the nature of the relationship 607 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,435 between two big dissidents. 608 01:11:55,270 --> 01:11:57,439 One month before they killed him, 609 01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:00,734 he sent me a private message on Twitter 610 01:12:01,651 --> 01:12:04,779 when I was attacked by Saudi bots and trolls. 611 01:12:05,697 --> 01:12:08,992 He told me, "Ghada, block them, 612 01:12:09,034 --> 01:12:11,870 "ignore them, and don't get upset. 613 01:12:11,911 --> 01:12:13,997 "Just block them like I do." 614 01:12:16,541 --> 01:12:19,085 And every day, the more we discovered 615 01:12:19,127 --> 01:12:21,546 what happened to him and how he was... 616 01:12:21,588 --> 01:12:24,883 how he went in, how they told him to sit down, 617 01:12:24,924 --> 01:12:27,385 how they came with the saw, 618 01:12:27,427 --> 01:12:30,680 how... when they started to... 619 01:12:35,393 --> 01:12:39,105 When he couldn't breathe, and then, you know, I was... 620 01:12:40,065 --> 01:12:43,193 The details, you know, it was so... 621 01:12:43,943 --> 01:12:48,198 I don't know how to describe it actually, it's a nightmare. 622 01:12:51,493 --> 01:12:55,163 My heart starts beating and I say, "God, please... 623 01:12:55,747 --> 01:12:59,125 "Let it be quickly, let me read something 624 01:12:59,167 --> 01:13:00,919 "that says he didn't suffer." 625 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:04,714 He didn't have time to realize that he was killed 626 01:13:04,756 --> 01:13:08,385 by his own government, by his own people. 627 01:13:14,724 --> 01:13:19,145 This assassination was empowered with Israeli software, 628 01:13:19,187 --> 01:13:22,482 and since then, Saudi Arabia hasn't paid a price 629 01:13:22,524 --> 01:13:25,151 because of its alliances with America, 630 01:13:25,193 --> 01:13:28,154 investments in Europe, and so on. 631 01:13:28,196 --> 01:13:33,076 So it's really the dispensability of our lives. 632 01:13:33,118 --> 01:13:35,703 That's something that became very clear. 633 01:13:37,455 --> 01:13:39,541 ♪ [Humming sound] 634 01:14:00,687 --> 01:14:02,647 Officially on the record, 635 01:14:02,689 --> 01:14:06,234 NSO isn't allowed to operate in the United States. 636 01:14:06,276 --> 01:14:09,195 But it's attempted to enter American markets 637 01:14:09,237 --> 01:14:11,197 for the sale of its hacking software 638 01:14:11,239 --> 01:14:14,033 at least a couple of times that we know about. 639 01:14:14,075 --> 01:14:17,871 In 2016, they reached out to the San Diego Police Department 640 01:14:17,912 --> 01:14:20,999 to sell a version of Pegasus called Phantom. 641 01:14:31,926 --> 01:14:34,471 ♪ [Mysterious theme music] 642 01:14:43,062 --> 01:14:47,066 The brochure for Phantom boasts that it can intercept calls, 643 01:14:47,108 --> 01:14:48,818 do location tracking, 644 01:14:48,860 --> 01:14:50,612 access a person's messages, 645 01:14:50,653 --> 01:14:52,780 their browsing history, their social networks, 646 01:14:52,822 --> 01:14:54,449 their contact lists. 647 01:14:54,491 --> 01:14:57,660 So, we now know there is an appetite from the U.S. police 648 01:14:57,702 --> 01:14:59,662 for these kinds of tools. 649 01:15:00,497 --> 01:15:02,457 But in the context of a pandemic, 650 01:15:02,499 --> 01:15:05,001 where we are seeing rising inequality, 651 01:15:05,043 --> 01:15:08,129 in a context where communities are protesting en masse 652 01:15:08,171 --> 01:15:09,797 against racialized policing, 653 01:15:09,839 --> 01:15:11,925 it's extremely fucking scary 654 01:15:11,966 --> 01:15:14,469 what incredible damage 655 01:15:14,511 --> 01:15:16,763 tools like Pegasus and Phantom 656 01:15:16,804 --> 01:15:19,807 can do in the hands of law enforcement. 657 01:15:21,059 --> 01:15:23,520 ♪ [Humming sound] 658 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,244 [Spraying] 659 01:16:22,370 --> 01:16:24,414 [Birds chirping outside] 660 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,006 [More birds chirping] 661 01:16:47,020 --> 01:16:48,688 [Smart phone chiming] 662 01:17:07,665 --> 01:17:09,417 [Footsteps] 663 01:17:23,765 --> 01:17:26,142 [Sound of door opening] 664 01:17:34,776 --> 01:17:36,736 [Harmonizing] 665 01:17:45,995 --> 01:17:48,206 [Dog barking outside] 666 01:17:50,375 --> 01:17:51,668 [Telephone ringing] 667 01:17:53,336 --> 01:17:54,962 [Telephone ringing] 668 01:18:28,621 --> 01:18:30,415 [Sound of gate closing] 669 01:18:34,794 --> 01:18:36,796 [Siren in distance] 670 01:18:40,049 --> 01:18:41,801 [Gate closing] 671 01:18:43,761 --> 01:18:45,888 [Locking gate] 672 01:19:48,075 --> 01:19:49,994 [Sound of gate closing] 673 01:20:15,353 --> 01:20:17,230 [Zipper sound] 674 01:20:28,866 --> 01:20:30,743 [Dog panting] 675 01:20:34,539 --> 01:20:36,707 [Dog barking in distance] 676 01:20:41,170 --> 01:20:44,257 [Another siren faraway] 677 01:20:53,641 --> 01:20:56,227 [More dogs barking] 678 01:21:17,290 --> 01:21:19,417 [Raining hard] 679 01:21:45,693 --> 01:21:48,195 [Blowing bubbles] 680 01:21:50,531 --> 01:21:52,742 ♪ [Three notes sounding] 681 01:21:54,952 --> 01:21:57,788 ♪ [Blowing bubbles in harmony with notes] 682 01:21:57,830 --> 01:22:01,250 ♪ [Humming] 683 01:22:10,843 --> 01:22:13,429 ♪ [Singing] 684 01:22:23,314 --> 01:22:24,941 [Telephone ringing] 685 01:22:33,407 --> 01:22:36,118 ♪ [Singing] 686 01:22:58,265 --> 01:23:00,476 [Rapid footsteps] 687 01:23:52,278 --> 01:23:54,405 [Sound of moving vehicle] 688 01:24:18,304 --> 01:24:20,598 [Sound of moving vehicle] 689 01:24:25,936 --> 01:24:28,022 [Sound of moving vehicle] 690 01:24:49,085 --> 01:24:50,294 [Turn signal] 691 01:25:10,022 --> 01:25:11,232 [Laughing] 692 01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:46,058 [Laughter] 693 01:25:55,192 --> 01:25:57,653 [Sound of car door opening] 694 01:25:58,863 --> 01:26:00,281 [Car door closing] 695 01:26:05,536 --> 01:26:07,079 [Trunk opening] 696 01:26:12,793 --> 01:26:13,836 [Trunk closing] 697 01:27:07,389 --> 01:27:09,475 [Approaching motorcycle] 698 01:27:59,024 --> 01:28:00,276 [Rapid footsteps] 699 01:28:37,646 --> 01:28:38,856 [Giggle] 700 01:29:02,755 --> 01:29:04,381 [Birds chirping] 701 01:29:15,351 --> 01:29:18,645 ♪ [Virtual choir singing in harmony] 702 01:30:03,816 --> 01:30:06,902 ♪ [Choir singing comes up powerfully] 703 01:30:50,237 --> 01:30:52,197 ♪ [Choir falls silent] 704 01:31:07,963 --> 01:31:10,757 [Storage door rolling up] 705 01:31:12,217 --> 01:31:14,887 [Sound of heavy breathing through mask] 706 01:31:21,727 --> 01:31:22,728 [Tapping keys] 707 01:31:31,528 --> 01:31:33,780 [Heavy breathing] 708 01:31:46,418 --> 01:31:47,961 [Touching keys softly] 709 01:32:07,564 --> 01:32:09,107 [Dogs barking faraway] 710 01:32:10,901 --> 01:32:12,361 [Packing car] 711 01:32:14,905 --> 01:32:16,031 [Shutting car door] 712 01:32:34,091 --> 01:32:35,842 [Opening canned drink] 713 01:32:37,511 --> 01:32:39,137 [Sniffing] 714 01:32:40,639 --> 01:32:42,599 [Sipping canned drink] 715 01:32:46,103 --> 01:32:48,564 [Chugging canned drink] 716 01:32:58,907 --> 01:33:00,450 [Sighing] 717 01:33:28,478 --> 01:33:31,106 [Unfolding letter] 718 01:33:37,863 --> 01:33:39,281 (Father's voice) Dear Clyde, 719 01:33:39,990 --> 01:33:42,159 Your brother didn't make it. 720 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,369 I don't have all the details, 721 01:33:44,411 --> 01:33:46,997 but I wanted you to hear it from me first. 722 01:33:47,331 --> 01:33:49,625 The Lord's been looking out for me, 723 01:33:49,666 --> 01:33:51,918 and I guess He saw it fit to let me know. 724 01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:56,006 He's called my sweet boy, your brother, to His side. 725 01:33:56,423 --> 01:33:58,550 As you know, he was doing poorly, 726 01:33:58,592 --> 01:34:00,385 but I'd hoped he'd hang in there until 727 01:34:00,427 --> 01:34:02,262 I made it back to fetch him. 728 01:34:02,304 --> 01:34:04,514 I guess it wasn't meant to be. 729 01:34:04,848 --> 01:34:06,558 I'll be... [Gunshot] 730 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:08,560 [Dogs barking] 731 01:34:10,896 --> 01:34:12,105 [Starting car] 732 01:34:13,940 --> 01:34:16,234 [Passing cars] 733 01:34:16,276 --> 01:34:18,612 [Police siren] 734 01:34:20,739 --> 01:34:22,366 I'll be hitting the road in the morning 735 01:34:22,407 --> 01:34:24,201 to see him one last time 736 01:34:24,242 --> 01:34:25,827 before they bury him. 737 01:34:26,787 --> 01:34:28,747 [Sound of turning pages] 738 01:34:29,998 --> 01:34:33,001 I will let you know what I find out. 739 01:34:33,794 --> 01:34:35,504 Love, Dad. 740 01:34:40,842 --> 01:34:42,219 Dear Clyde, 741 01:34:43,261 --> 01:34:45,389 I saw your brother today. 742 01:34:45,847 --> 01:34:47,849 They had him set up in the church, 743 01:34:47,891 --> 01:34:50,018 him and all the rest of the dead. 744 01:34:50,727 --> 01:34:54,106 They wouldn't let me through the door for fear of catching it 745 01:34:54,147 --> 01:34:57,275 but I could see him from the threshold. 746 01:34:58,276 --> 01:35:00,028 So tiny. 747 01:35:00,904 --> 01:35:03,532 Just like he always was. 748 01:35:03,573 --> 01:35:05,033 [Noise outside car] 749 01:35:05,075 --> 01:35:07,953 They didn't tell me they were Presbyterians. 750 01:35:08,412 --> 01:35:10,914 I don't know how I feel about that. 751 01:35:11,206 --> 01:35:13,333 I don't know how I feel about them being the ones 752 01:35:13,375 --> 01:35:15,001 to bury him neither. 753 01:35:15,043 --> 01:35:16,878 But they say they can't release any of them bodies 754 01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:18,714 that don't have kin, 755 01:35:18,755 --> 01:35:21,925 be they Baptists, or Catholic or Buddhists even. 756 01:35:21,967 --> 01:35:23,135 [Banging] 757 01:35:23,635 --> 01:35:25,470 Those are the rules. 758 01:35:25,804 --> 01:35:27,472 [Gas thief running away] 759 01:35:27,764 --> 01:35:30,434 It was strange being back in a church. 760 01:35:31,351 --> 01:35:33,311 I didn't feel unwelcome. 761 01:35:33,645 --> 01:35:36,022 Nor did they cast an untowards eye at me 762 01:35:36,064 --> 01:35:37,649 when they heard my name. 763 01:35:37,941 --> 01:35:40,444 Maybe they don't know who I am. 764 01:35:40,485 --> 01:35:42,779 Wouldn't that be something? 765 01:35:43,864 --> 01:35:45,741 they're just being kind. 766 01:35:45,782 --> 01:35:47,909 [Starting car, putting in gear] 767 01:35:47,951 --> 01:35:49,578 [Car accelerating] 768 01:35:49,870 --> 01:35:52,247 I haven't led the best life... 769 01:35:52,873 --> 01:35:55,041 I know you know this, 770 01:35:55,083 --> 01:35:58,336 but I hope some day we can talk about it. 771 01:35:59,421 --> 01:36:02,632 I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me. 772 01:36:02,674 --> 01:36:06,344 Or, if not that, then to understand me. 773 01:36:07,179 --> 01:36:10,807 And think of me with something that isn't disappointment. 774 01:36:11,099 --> 01:36:12,934 [Car radio playing] 775 01:36:13,643 --> 01:36:15,854 A fellow just walked through here with his face 776 01:36:15,896 --> 01:36:17,439 all cut to pieces. 777 01:36:17,773 --> 01:36:19,983 I wonder what his story is. 778 01:36:20,650 --> 01:36:22,652 I look at the world sometimes and 779 01:36:22,694 --> 01:36:25,822 think it a wonder that I still recognize it. 780 01:36:27,449 --> 01:36:30,118 I wonder if I'd recognize you. 781 01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:31,036 [Car cruising] 782 01:36:32,454 --> 01:36:34,039 I would call you if I had your number. 783 01:36:34,331 --> 01:36:35,123 But... 784 01:36:36,583 --> 01:36:38,502 Long silences are best endured in person. 785 01:36:39,085 --> 01:36:42,339 And I imagine, you and I, we'd have plenty of those. 786 01:36:43,173 --> 01:36:46,593 If you want to write, you can do so in care of 787 01:36:46,635 --> 01:36:49,221 the St. James Presbyterian Church... 788 01:36:49,262 --> 01:36:51,014 in Mildred. [Dialing] 789 01:36:51,056 --> 01:36:52,641 That's where your brother is. 790 01:36:52,682 --> 01:36:55,352 And that's where you'll be able to find me, 791 01:36:55,393 --> 01:36:57,854 at least until he's good and buried. 792 01:36:57,896 --> 01:36:59,397 [Telephone ringing] 793 01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,233 Please do write. 794 01:37:01,566 --> 01:37:02,776 Let me know you got this. 795 01:37:04,277 --> 01:37:05,862 (Answering machine) Please leave your message... 796 01:37:06,196 --> 01:37:08,490 Love, Dad. 797 01:37:15,038 --> 01:37:17,374 (Father's voice) Clyde, I took him. 798 01:37:17,415 --> 01:37:19,918 [Thunder cracking, rain pouring down] 799 01:37:21,211 --> 01:37:23,046 I couldn't let them do it. 800 01:37:23,338 --> 01:37:25,048 It just wasn't right. 801 01:37:25,674 --> 01:37:27,717 I didn't make a fuss about it. 802 01:37:27,759 --> 01:37:30,136 stole into the rectory at night, 803 01:37:30,428 --> 01:37:32,597 took his body in my arms, 804 01:37:33,056 --> 01:37:35,350 and bore him out of there. 805 01:37:35,392 --> 01:37:37,811 I was going to drive him back to Texas because 806 01:37:37,853 --> 01:37:40,188 I wanted to bury him next to your Ma. 807 01:37:40,897 --> 01:37:43,483 But before I even got to the border, 808 01:37:43,525 --> 01:37:46,403 that poor boy started to turn foul. 809 01:37:47,821 --> 01:37:51,491 I wrapped him in his sheet and found a good spot for him... 810 01:37:52,409 --> 01:37:54,327 where he'd be safe. 811 01:37:55,370 --> 01:37:59,499 It's too late for me now, but I got this notion that, 812 01:37:59,541 --> 01:38:01,835 you might finish what I started. 813 01:38:02,711 --> 01:38:05,463 It wouldn't be hard to find him if you knew where to look, 814 01:38:05,505 --> 01:38:07,591 so I drew you this map. 815 01:38:07,632 --> 01:38:10,135 Take the highway west out of Dallas, 816 01:38:10,176 --> 01:38:12,137 until you get to Neta Road. 817 01:38:12,178 --> 01:38:13,221 Go north. 818 01:38:14,681 --> 01:38:15,307 When you get to the church on your left, 819 01:38:16,766 --> 01:38:18,310 look for the old wagon path on the right. 820 01:38:18,351 --> 01:38:20,896 And take that until you get to the river. 821 01:38:20,937 --> 01:38:23,273 Stop when you get to the end of it. 822 01:38:23,315 --> 01:38:25,191 Thirteen paces from the river, 823 01:38:25,233 --> 01:38:28,862 between the two tallest elms is where I buried him. 824 01:38:29,154 --> 01:38:32,490 Deep enough that the coyotes won't find him. 825 01:38:32,782 --> 01:38:36,453 But not so deep that you'll have to dig for long. 826 01:38:36,494 --> 01:38:39,164 ♪ [Car radio playing music] 827 01:38:39,205 --> 01:38:40,790 If you were to fetch him, 828 01:38:40,832 --> 01:38:43,460 and take him back to where he belongs, 829 01:38:44,252 --> 01:38:46,129 I could rest easy. 830 01:38:46,171 --> 01:38:49,507 I could say I've done all I need to do in this world. 831 01:38:49,549 --> 01:38:51,593 But don't do it for me. 832 01:38:52,260 --> 01:38:54,346 He loved you so. 833 01:38:55,597 --> 01:38:57,390 And even now, 834 01:38:57,766 --> 01:38:59,684 under all that dirt, 835 01:39:00,810 --> 01:39:03,271 I know he doesn't want to be alone. 836 01:39:05,523 --> 01:39:08,443 I trust these letters are making their way to you. 837 01:39:08,944 --> 01:39:12,030 I trust you've been hearing what people say about me, too. 838 01:39:12,072 --> 01:39:15,367 But I hope you know there's more to me than that. 839 01:39:15,825 --> 01:39:19,829 I think back often to the last time we were all together. 840 01:39:19,871 --> 01:39:22,499 You and me and your brother. 841 01:39:22,958 --> 01:39:24,709 And your Ma... 842 01:39:24,751 --> 01:39:27,504 in that little house in Medford. 843 01:39:28,838 --> 01:39:33,259 Even back then, I was failing every step I took. 844 01:39:34,636 --> 01:39:37,973 But with you two, I got things right. 845 01:39:39,641 --> 01:39:40,934 Clyde. 846 01:39:41,476 --> 01:39:43,436 I won't write again. 847 01:39:44,688 --> 01:39:46,773 But know that I love you. 848 01:39:47,732 --> 01:39:49,567 I surely do. 849 01:39:53,989 --> 01:39:56,574 [Car driving on gravel road] 850 01:40:02,914 --> 01:40:05,834 [Parking, turning off car] 851 01:40:15,301 --> 01:40:18,013 [Slipping on gloves] 852 01:40:30,942 --> 01:40:33,528 [Heavy breathing] 853 01:40:33,820 --> 01:40:36,823 [Car door opening, closing] 854 01:40:38,616 --> 01:40:41,369 [Thunderstorm faraway] 855 01:40:56,718 --> 01:40:59,179 [Heavy breathing] 856 01:41:02,932 --> 01:41:06,186 [Thunder sounds again faraway] 857 01:41:21,534 --> 01:41:23,995 [Breathing gets heavier] 858 01:41:24,037 --> 01:41:26,706 [Shoveling earth] 859 01:41:29,667 --> 01:41:31,878 (Little boy's voice) Dear Clyde... 860 01:41:34,214 --> 01:41:37,092 Daddy said you'd be coming. 861 01:41:37,717 --> 01:41:39,552 [Digging] 862 01:41:39,594 --> 01:41:42,555 said you'd be coming to get me. 863 01:41:42,597 --> 01:41:43,973 [Shoveling earth] 864 01:41:44,015 --> 01:41:46,392 I can hear you digging. 865 01:41:47,977 --> 01:41:50,688 I can hear you getting closer. 866 01:41:51,064 --> 01:41:52,148 And... 867 01:41:52,732 --> 01:41:55,527 I wish I could tell you to stop. 868 01:41:58,446 --> 01:42:01,533 wish I could tell you I'm happy. 869 01:42:01,866 --> 01:42:04,661 And that I just want to go on resting. 870 01:42:04,994 --> 01:42:06,746 [Pushing earth away] 871 01:42:06,788 --> 01:42:09,165 But I guess I can't. 872 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:13,002 'Cause there you are. 873 01:42:13,419 --> 01:42:16,881 [Thunder faraway] 874 01:42:18,007 --> 01:42:19,968 And I don't know... 875 01:42:22,595 --> 01:42:25,223 You look different than I remember. 876 01:42:28,726 --> 01:42:31,396 I wonder what happened to you. 877 01:42:35,441 --> 01:42:38,611 what the world looks like now. 878 01:42:46,369 --> 01:42:48,955 I guess you'll tell me what's changed, 879 01:42:48,997 --> 01:42:51,416 and what I missed out on. 880 01:42:53,543 --> 01:42:56,337 I didn't much like things the way they were 881 01:42:56,379 --> 01:42:58,464 when Daddy was around. 882 01:42:58,506 --> 01:43:00,925 But maybe that was because of him. 883 01:43:00,967 --> 01:43:02,594 [Car door opening] 884 01:43:06,681 --> 01:43:09,809 that was just everyone. 885 01:43:12,604 --> 01:43:13,897 [Car door shutting] 886 01:43:14,272 --> 01:43:16,524 f the people I thought were good 887 01:43:16,566 --> 01:43:18,651 turned out to be bad. 888 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,946 And I just want to sleep... 889 01:43:21,988 --> 01:43:24,824 so that I wouldn't have to see them. 890 01:43:24,866 --> 01:43:26,075 [Car door opening, closing] 891 01:43:26,117 --> 01:43:29,162 I remember this one lady... 892 01:43:29,746 --> 01:43:33,458 She would take me to the window and let me look out. 893 01:43:33,499 --> 01:43:35,960 And there were birds in the sky. 894 01:43:36,419 --> 01:43:38,838 And even though it hurt so bad, 895 01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,049 she would look at me and say, 896 01:43:41,090 --> 01:43:44,510 "Well, at least it's a beautiful day." 897 01:43:45,762 --> 01:43:48,389 it's a beautiful day." 898 01:43:49,015 --> 01:43:51,100 But I don't know if it was. 899 01:43:52,268 --> 01:43:54,729 I don't know if it ever was. 900 01:43:55,313 --> 01:43:58,483 I don't know if it ever will be again. 901 01:44:01,402 --> 01:44:02,612 Will it? 902 01:44:08,910 --> 01:44:12,538 But she would go on smiling all the same. 903 01:44:12,956 --> 01:44:16,584 And we'd sit and look out the window. 904 01:44:17,043 --> 01:44:19,295 And watch it get dark. 905 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:49,117 [Subtle sounds of insects] 906 01:44:51,202 --> 01:44:52,870 [Flying insect buzzing by] 907 01:45:54,682 --> 01:46:00,813 Night Colonies 908 01:46:27,090 --> 01:46:29,384 [Insects flying] 909 01:46:42,772 --> 01:46:44,857 [Insects flying] 910 01:47:02,250 --> 01:47:03,960 [Insects buzzing] 911 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:07,338 [More buzzing] 912 01:47:30,278 --> 01:47:33,406 [Indistinct muffled voices faraway] 913 02:00:59,086 --> 02:01:00,921 Captioning: Mistral Artist