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When I was 15,
I had a... vision.
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Thought I would be in
the entertainment business.
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I didn't know what.
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Back then, it was the
beginning of a whole new world.
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50,000 people
converged on the civic center
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to protest
a Goldwater nomination
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at the demonstration
for civil rights.
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Shit was different then,
you know?
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A lot of rules
were being broken.
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Open another,
we'll shut it down!
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Whatever prompted you
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to develop this topless
bathing suit anyway?
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Well, I believe
that it is a definite trend.
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Why do you think
it's gonna catch on
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in the United States? Aren't we
prudish about such matters?
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Well, I think more prudish
than the rest of the world, yes.
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We must decide
what sort of people we are
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and what sort of a world
we want.
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Talented young lady
named Carol Doda.
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Oh, you can't reach me.
How about if I do a little lean?
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San Francisco
is a happening town.
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They wanna see entertainment.
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You're given credit
for launching
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the topless craze.
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Ms. Carol Doda,
the topless queen.
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That's right. That's
where it happened, the Condor.
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She made an
international name for herself.
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- There's nudity in your show.
- Wanna tell you something.
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There's nudity,
but it's done tastefully.
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Art lovers go and see that.
This is another form of art.
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Like a nude painting
or a nude statue.
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It has taste.
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Was always a class act.
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Carol Doda, of course,
was the star of North Beach.
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Why was Carol famous?
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She was more than
a stripper, a go-go dancer.
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There was just
something different about her.
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She was brave enough
to do something
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no one had done before.
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In every way,
it made sense
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that people went absolutely
wild when she did this.
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But it was nowhere near
the revolutionary places
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that she was going to take
American culture.
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Broadway Street,
it was fantastic.
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Everybody that came
to San Francisco in those days
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came to Broadway.
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Those clubs
were packed with tourists.
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North Beach
was the off-season Vegas.
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It was a very active
music scene.
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I saw all these
great, great performers
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and we'd see these at breakfast
shows at 2:00 in the morning.
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You had the Jazz Workshop.
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Down the street,
you had Lenny Bruce.
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I mean,
it was entertainment row.
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10:00 p.m. in San Francisco.
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This Baghdad by the Bay
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is a swinging place.
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The happening clubs
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- were Pierre's...
- The Off-Broadway.
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- Roaring 20's.
- Purple Onion.
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- The Hungry I.
- El Cid.
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- Big Al's.
- The Galaxie.
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- Then you have Finocchio's.
- Peppermint Tree.
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- And the Condor.
- Condor.
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- The Condor.
- The Condor.
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- The Condor.
- Condor was the place to go.
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It was right on the corner
there. It was beautiful.
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Everybody was friendly.
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♪ Hully gully, pretty papa ♪
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* All right ♪
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Carol started
at the Condor as a waitress.
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I really didn't know
how to serve cocktails,
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so it was like this
tremendous pressure
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because I had to do good.
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I just had to prove myself
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as a capable worker.
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That somebody
would be proud of me.
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So I became one of the best
cocktail waitresses
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in San Francisco.
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♪ Hully gully, pretty papa... ♪
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When I started
working at night
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is when I really
got to meet Carol.
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And she was just
one of the cocktail waitresses,
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but she had the front station,
the busiest station.
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I had this habit
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of always jumping around
and dancing,
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and I would be relating
to the people
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like I was entertaining them,
only I was serving them drinks.
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They thought I was crazy
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and they loved me
and they'd come back.
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Carol Doda was friends
with everybody.
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Everybody liked her.
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She always wore
a white leotard.
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The rest of us
wore black leotards.
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You know, she stood out.
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The Condor was a blast.
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And they had good bands.
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1964...
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Oh yeah!
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...and we gonna dance
some more.
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George & Teddy were
the big hit for the North Beach.
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They sang
all the Motown songs
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They were
the first musicians
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that brought the crowd
into the Condor.
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♪ Mary had a little lamb ♪
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♪ Whose fleece
were white as snow ♪
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♪ Hey! ♪
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♪ And everywhere
that Mary went ♪
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♪ Her lamb was sure to go... ♪
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George & Teddy,
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they were the talk of the town
back then.
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- ♪ Baby ♪
- ♪ Crackin' up over you ♪
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♪ I said I love you, baby
Love you, girl ♪
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♪ Don't you wanna
love me too? ♪
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I just would wail
on my horn, you know,
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for that style.
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And those girls were
really risque for the time.
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♪ Crackin' up over you... ♪
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George & Teddy
coming out between their legs.
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All of a sudden,
you see Teddy going...
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- He was a naughty boy.
- Whoa!
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Pete Mattioli and Gino
Del Prete owned the Condor.
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Pete and Gino.
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They were two little,
short Italian kids
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but they ran a tough club.
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Gino,
he was just a character.
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He was a superstar himself.
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'cause he involved himself
with all the people.
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He was somebody to go see.
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Gino was a naughty boy.
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And I ain't gonna say
another word.
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I used to drive
his father's ravioli truck
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I knew Gino a long time.
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Gino was wild
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and unpredictable.
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Pete, he wasn't a saint.
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But he was a straight arrow
compared to Gino.
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Pete ran it
totally professional.
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We had go-go girls
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and we had the best-looking
cocktail waitresses in town.
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I was always dancing.
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And they said, "Oh, Carol,
get up on the stage."
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And I'd go between serving
drinks, jump up on the stage.
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They had this piano player.
He said, "Get up here,
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there's no room on the stage."
So I got up on the piano.
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Carol jumped on
the piano and did the Twist
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and people used to love that.
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And I think that's how she
got the idea, you know?
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"This'll be my thing."
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- George, do "Bony Moronie"!
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♪ Oh, I got a girl named
Bony Moronie ♪
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♪ She as skinny
as a stick of macaroni ♪
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- Whoa!
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The competition
was real tough.
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That's why we all tried
to be a little diverse
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and have something different.
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You had to have a gimmick.
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I go into the Condor
early one night
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and Gino's at the bar
and we're talking and he says,
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"I'm gonna have that piano
come down from the ceiling."
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I said,
"The piano weighs a ton."
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"No, I got a guy.
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He's gonna do the hydraulics.
It's gonna happen."
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And I'm thinking,
"Yeah, what's he thinking?"
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Well, I had to
cut a hole in the ceiling
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and then we had to make a tunnel
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from the dressing room
to that hole
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where she'd stand on the piano
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and press the button
and then come down.
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Carol gets on the piano
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and everybody's like
holding their breath...
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"Is this gonna work?"
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You know you gotta
keep up with the times
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if you wanna be mine.
So let's do it.
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And it came down.
It came down, hit the stage,
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and she's doing the Twist and
we're all goin', "Oh my God.
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It happened."
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* The dance they
were doing was outta sight ♪
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This crazy piano
went up and down
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like an elevator
in the ceiling.
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♪ Then I could do it ♪
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- * Aww, shake it up now... ♪
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There were so many dance crazes
in the 1960s.
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The Frug, the Watusi, the Twist,
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the Limbo,
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the Swim.
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The Galaxie on
Broadway hired a girl named...
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Judy Mac.
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I was a hat check girl
at the Galaxie.
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And the owner asked
to take me to dinner.
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And I thought, "Yeah, I'll go.
What do you have in mind?"
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He said,
"Well, here's the deal.
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We heard about this dance
called the Swim dance.
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And we wanna know if you will
run a contest and perform it."
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I said, "What's the Swim
dance?"
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He said, "I don't know.
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Just dance and look like
you're swimming."
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And I said, "Oh, okay.
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I can do that."
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It was publicized
in the newspaper
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and people were curious
and came to see it
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because Judy Mac pulled her
dress up and did the Swim.
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That was kinda risque
back in the '60s.
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That became the big rage with
Bobby Freeman's hit record,
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who was from San Francisco.
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Let me introduce an old friend
of American Bandstand,
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Mr. Bobby Freeman!
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Come on, everybody!
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A-come on in!
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Bobby's gonna show you
how to do the Swim!
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How did it start
and where?
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Well, actually, I started
the Swim two years ago, Dick.
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It was a Twist party
that took place
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at the Cow Palace.
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And the headliner
was Chubby Checker.
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Bobby Freeman got on stage
and he was doing his hits.
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So then Bobby had a last
encore,
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but he ran out of songs.
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There was a musician there
that was on keyboard.
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It was an 18-year-old guy
named Sly Stone,
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and he started playing this
riff on the organ.
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So Bobby caught on and he
started doing these gyrations
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and he started doing
hand motions forward.
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And then all of a sudden,
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you know,
the crowd went ecstatic.
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So after the show,
Sly Stone says,
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"Man, what was you doing
up there?
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Like you were swimmin'
or something."
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And the Swim was born.
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I was given credit
for being the creator
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of the Swim dance.
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I don't even claim that.
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Judy Mac did her own
variations of the Swim,
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and that's when it caught on.
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"Wait a minute.
Bobby Freeman's the originator.
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So what we need to do is make
a song outta this dance."
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Tom Donahue collaborated
with Sly Stone
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and co-wrote the song
and called it "C'mon and Swim."
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And it became a smash.
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♪ Do what you wanna
'Cause it's all right ♪
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♪ 'Cause Bobby's gonna show you
How to swim tonight ♪
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♪ Now, baby, swim ♪
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Besides the fact
that it's topless,
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what else is unique
about this swimsuit?
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There isn't really anything
very unique about it
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other than the fact
that it has no top.
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The swimsuit is a particularly
interesting garment
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when it comes to the history
of women's liberation.
251
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Well, I could go back
to the bikini.
252
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When that first was shown in
Italy, people just almost died.
253
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Oh!
254
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Rudi Gernreich
255
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is surely one
of the most controversial
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and also most highly respected
figures in the fashion world.
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He is very avant-garde and
a very forward-thinking person
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which will influence the world,
in my estimation.
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Why did he come up
with this idea?
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How did he come up
with this idea?
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It's very political.
262
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Fashion is highly political.
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And has been
from the dawn of time.
264
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When first-wave feminists
were trying to get the vote,
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there was also
a dress reform movement
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because they were
dressed in corsets
267
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and they could barely breathe.
268
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Rudi Gernreich
isn't just a fashion designer.
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He's one of the first members
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of the Mattachine Society,
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which is one of the first
gay rights groups
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in the United States.
273
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Eventually, magazines agreed to
run the photo of the monokini,
274
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but it was a big controversy
from the beginning.
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Do you think
it could become popular?
276
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No.
277
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- Why not?
- Lot of bashful women around.
278
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I think men won't have respect
for any girl at all,
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whether she's good or bad.
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Problem is, I think you'd get
picked up for indecent exposure
281
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as soon as you were
found with one on.
282
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I'm afraid I'd have to tell her
to, uh, cover up.
283
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If she refused, I would have to,
uh, take her into custody.
284
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The monokini, to me,
285
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really unlocks
a whole deeper level
286
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of what Carol Doda was about
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and what she achieved.
288
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It seems to me
that the monokini was...
289
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a kind of momentary gimmick.
290
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Okay.
291
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But let's talk about
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the monokini as a symbol.
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And to do that, you have to
understand what was happening
294
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in 1964 and 1965, 1966.
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The Vietnam War.
296
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...this, which is really
heightened in the consciousness,
297
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would take action!
298
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The stirrings
of the feminist movement.
299
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What you see here
is the beginning of a movement
300
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that women are human beings
301
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and we have equal rights.
302
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The civil rights movement
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starting to gain momentum.
304
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...to end the long night
of racial injustice...
305
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So this is
an extraordinary moment
306
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in American history
307
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and during this
extraordinary moment,
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Carol Doda is handed, by Big
Davey Rosenberg, this monokini.
309
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He says he designed
it only to illustrate a trend,
310
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but buyers began demanding
the topless swimsuit
311
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and now it's reaching
the market.
312
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Davey was the PR man
313
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and anything that would make
the news, Davey would do.
314
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Initially, he brought you
the newspaper and showed you.
315
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And it was on the front page,
above the masthead.
316
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You went, "Oh my gosh."
317
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So Davey says,
"Let's go buy it."
318
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Everybody knew Davey.
319
00:15:17,884 --> 00:15:21,921
He was very active
in promoting Carol.
320
00:15:22,022 --> 00:15:24,124
That was his thing
at the Condor.
321
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He called me up and said, "Come
down here. We have a surprise."
322
00:15:27,961 --> 00:15:30,763
Well, I got down there. They
said they had a new costume.
323
00:15:31,564 --> 00:15:34,101
And I just see this little
bikini thing with two straps.
324
00:15:35,068 --> 00:15:36,103
And...
325
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"I'm not gonna wear that."
326
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We showed it to her
327
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and convinced Carol to wear it.
328
00:15:41,541 --> 00:15:44,544
Carol Doda says,
"I was stupid.
329
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If you told me to do it,
I did it."
330
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She's not stupid at all.
331
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I think, on some level,
332
00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:51,151
she really knew
that it was a weapon.
333
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♪ Stand in a circle ♪
334
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♪ Go round and round... ♪
335
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My dad had a friend
who told him
336
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he needs to come to the Condor
337
00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:05,332
'cause all hell
was gonna break loose.
338
00:16:05,432 --> 00:16:09,002
It was my birthday,
June 19, '64.
339
00:16:09,102 --> 00:16:11,204
His friend comes up and says,
"Hey man,
340
00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:13,140
can't have your son there.
He's underage."
341
00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,807
They stuck me
in the dressing room.
342
00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:16,409
I remember seeing Carol there,
343
00:16:16,509 --> 00:16:18,578
and she says,
"What a cute little boy."
344
00:16:19,112 --> 00:16:20,580
I never had
any feelings of,
345
00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,415
"Should I do this
or shouldn't I do this?"
346
00:16:22,515 --> 00:16:24,717
Except for the minute
that I was on the piano,
347
00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:26,719
getting ready to come down
out of the ceiling,
348
00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:28,388
topless for the first time.
349
00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:31,591
I said, "Carol, do you really
know what you're doing?"
350
00:16:32,192 --> 00:16:34,994
I said, "Yes, I want to be
in show business
351
00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:36,996
and I don't know any other way
352
00:16:37,097 --> 00:16:38,998
but to start showing
my business."
353
00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:42,169
And the proverbial shit
hit the fan.
354
00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:46,939
I'm in the dressing room
355
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,741
and I'm hearing
whistles and hollering.
356
00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:53,046
Within 20 minutes,
Big Al's, next to the Condor,
357
00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:54,881
people started drifting
out of the club,
358
00:16:54,981 --> 00:16:56,683
"What's happening?
What's happening?"
359
00:16:57,284 --> 00:16:59,119
"The girl out there
taking her top off,"
360
00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:00,720
and the place emptied out.
361
00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:02,389
Everybody ran to see this.
362
00:17:02,489 --> 00:17:04,691
Even the band. We took off too.
363
00:17:04,791 --> 00:17:06,926
♪ Come on, baby ♪
364
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,063
♪ I want you to swim ♪
365
00:17:10,830 --> 00:17:12,865
I'm going, "I wanna go out,"
and the guy's like,
366
00:17:12,965 --> 00:17:14,834
"No, you can't.
You're underage."
367
00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:17,904
I didn't know what was happening
but I was buzzed.
368
00:17:18,004 --> 00:17:19,572
She came down on that piano,
369
00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:22,442
and it was a sensation.
370
00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:25,078
♪ Bobby's gonna do the swim
For you tonight ♪
371
00:17:25,178 --> 00:17:27,414
- ♪ Now, baby, swim... ♪
- The Condor breaks loose
372
00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:29,116
with Carol, okay?
373
00:17:29,216 --> 00:17:30,617
The Condor breaks loose.
374
00:17:30,717 --> 00:17:32,485
She took the top off
375
00:17:32,585 --> 00:17:34,687
and everybody would gasp.
376
00:17:35,422 --> 00:17:38,158
'Cause they never saw topless
in those days.
377
00:17:39,692 --> 00:17:41,461
They were lined up
around the corner.
378
00:17:41,561 --> 00:17:44,497
Like they'd never seen bare
breasts before in their lives.
379
00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:46,999
The shows people were usually
seeing were strip shows
380
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,502
where they would be covered up
with pasties, the nipples.
381
00:17:49,602 --> 00:17:52,004
So the nipples were a big deal,
you know?
382
00:17:52,105 --> 00:17:54,674
The greatest things since
sliced bread, I guess.
383
00:17:55,242 --> 00:17:57,644
It was amazing
how fast the word spread.
384
00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:00,447
Man, three or four deep
on the sidewalks.
385
00:18:00,547 --> 00:18:02,682
I mean, you couldn't even walk
down the sidewalk.
386
00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:05,952
It happened during the
Republican National Convention
387
00:18:06,052 --> 00:18:08,255
- that was at the Cow Palace.
388
00:18:08,355 --> 00:18:10,590
The eyes of
the nation are on San Francisco
389
00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:12,325
as the Republican party
convenes
390
00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,394
to nominate
its choice for president.
391
00:18:16,263 --> 00:18:18,365
The Republican
man of the hour
392
00:18:18,465 --> 00:18:20,467
and a smiling
Mrs. Barry Goldwater
393
00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:21,801
meet the people and the press
394
00:18:21,901 --> 00:18:23,803
as they walk the streets
of San Francisco
395
00:18:23,903 --> 00:18:27,940
in the opening days of the
Republican National Convention.
396
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,942
Best publicity
they could have done.
397
00:18:33,746 --> 00:18:35,548
Barry Goldwater's two sons
398
00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:38,885
came into the club. Just like
anybody, they wanted to see it.
399
00:18:43,089 --> 00:18:44,957
Nervous that first night?
400
00:18:45,057 --> 00:18:46,626
Yeah, I was for the first show.
401
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,928
It was different.
402
00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,704
♪ It's Pony time! Get up! ♪
403
00:18:57,804 --> 00:18:59,339
♪ Boogety, boogety
Boogety, boogety, shoo... ♪
404
00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:02,675
She's notorious,
she's celebrated.
405
00:19:02,775 --> 00:19:04,744
She and the Condor club
sort of usher in
406
00:19:04,844 --> 00:19:07,079
this era of topless dancing.
407
00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:09,816
It becomes "a thing"
because of Carol Doda
408
00:19:09,916 --> 00:19:11,218
and her monokini.
409
00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:18,725
After Carol
started the topless,
410
00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:22,429
nobody wanted
to see Swim dancing.
411
00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:25,598
When I had the belly dancers
412
00:19:25,698 --> 00:19:27,567
with a half-empty room,
413
00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:31,604
and the Condor had a line
all the way around the corner
414
00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:33,206
up to my place,
415
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,774
I said, "That's it.
416
00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:38,110
The belly dancers can go."
417
00:19:38,211 --> 00:19:40,179
There was nightclub life
418
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,516
and there was the sexualization
of women's bodies.
419
00:19:43,616 --> 00:19:46,419
These things converged in a way
I think was really exciting.
420
00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:51,023
And sort of made it acceptable,
in a way, for respectable men,
421
00:19:51,123 --> 00:19:53,560
um, to go watch go-go dancing
422
00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:55,228
and to go see topless women.
423
00:20:02,835 --> 00:20:04,371
Owner asked if I'd go topless.
424
00:20:04,471 --> 00:20:06,473
He paid me enough
and I went topless.
425
00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:09,876
I was the second girl to go
topless in North Beach
426
00:20:09,976 --> 00:20:11,444
after Carol Doda.
427
00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:13,112
One of my dancer friends said,
428
00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:14,714
"Yes, everybody's
dancing topless.
429
00:20:14,814 --> 00:20:16,549
If you want a gig,
you have to dance topless."
430
00:20:16,649 --> 00:20:18,618
I couldn't go topless.
431
00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:20,920
I mean, my parents
lived across the Bay
432
00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:23,323
and that would have been a...
433
00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:24,924
a mistake.
434
00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:26,459
Was it tough finding
a topless dancer
435
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,361
when topless first started
in North Beach?
436
00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:30,963
Yes, it was tough.
Now it's, you know...
437
00:20:31,531 --> 00:20:34,133
It's like deer,
they're in season.
438
00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:36,403
Then everything went topless.
439
00:20:36,503 --> 00:20:39,506
- Anything you can think of.
You had Tipsy's,
440
00:20:39,606 --> 00:20:43,175
which was home of the topless
band, the Ladybirds.
441
00:20:43,276 --> 00:20:46,679
♪ Well, oh-oh-over and over ♪
442
00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:49,181
♪ I'll be a fool for you ♪
443
00:20:49,282 --> 00:20:51,250
El Cid had
Gaye Spiegelman
444
00:20:51,351 --> 00:20:52,919
who was the mother of eight.
445
00:20:53,019 --> 00:20:55,187
She had abs like a 19-year-old.
446
00:20:55,288 --> 00:20:57,457
They had a topless
clam chowder place.
447
00:20:57,557 --> 00:20:59,091
Topless men's clothing store.
448
00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:01,828
Of course, it was the
saleswoman who was topless.
449
00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:03,763
They had topless
shoe shine.
450
00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:05,064
Can you just picture the...
451
00:21:05,898 --> 00:21:08,501
Working... working the rag.
452
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:12,505
When they opened up
the topless shoe shine stand,
453
00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:14,707
I said, "That's gonna bust
the fuckin' street."
454
00:21:15,308 --> 00:21:17,377
We ended up gettin' busted.
455
00:21:19,912 --> 00:21:21,848
Then in April 1965,
456
00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:24,216
the city made an effort
to shut the clubs down
457
00:21:24,317 --> 00:21:26,353
with a series of raids
reminiscent
458
00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:28,955
of the Prohibition era
of the 1920s.
459
00:21:29,055 --> 00:21:30,690
We're going to arrest
all the girls
460
00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:31,991
with their bosoms exposed
461
00:21:32,091 --> 00:21:33,626
for indecent exposure.
462
00:21:33,726 --> 00:21:36,162
We're gonna take the girls down
dressed like they are,
463
00:21:36,262 --> 00:21:39,566
so they can bring their street
clothes down with them.
464
00:21:39,666 --> 00:21:42,802
Because we're gonna have to
take their costumes, you see?
465
00:21:42,902 --> 00:21:44,404
What about girls
not in costume?
466
00:21:44,504 --> 00:21:45,905
Uh, those can remain.
467
00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:48,174
Just those that are topless.
468
00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:51,143
* Well, I woke up
this morning ♪
469
00:21:52,278 --> 00:21:54,347
Bring your
regular street clothes.
470
00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:56,416
♪ You were on my mind ♪
471
00:21:56,516 --> 00:22:02,021
♪ And you were on my mind... ♪
472
00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:05,057
Captain, you've had
a pretty busy night and day.
473
00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:08,027
- Uh, is this going to continue?
- Yes, it will continue.
474
00:22:08,127 --> 00:22:10,997
We'll make arrests where there
are any violations of the law.
475
00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:13,900
Do you feel this is
a violation of the law?
476
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,402
Otherwise,
we wouldn't be doing it.
477
00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:17,336
We're making legal arrests,
in our opinion.
478
00:22:17,437 --> 00:22:19,539
I'm not worried because I feel
I haven't done anything wrong.
479
00:22:19,639 --> 00:22:21,207
I've done my job.
480
00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:24,043
And, uh, I feel that, uh,
I have no reason to be scared.
481
00:22:24,143 --> 00:22:25,578
You don't think
you've broken any law?
482
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:27,246
No, I don't think so at all.
483
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:30,383
If you are out on bail by
the 4:30 show, will you be back?
484
00:22:30,483 --> 00:22:31,451
Yes, sir.
485
00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:32,852
- In costume?
- Yes, sir.
486
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,523
All the other topless
girls took it so lightly.
487
00:22:36,623 --> 00:22:37,690
They thought it was a big joke.
488
00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:39,125
Everybody enjoyed it,
489
00:22:39,225 --> 00:22:40,593
and they just thought
it was a big farce.
490
00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:42,695
But to me,
I took it very tragically.
491
00:22:42,795 --> 00:22:44,697
I have never been in jail
before in my life
492
00:22:44,797 --> 00:22:46,766
and I'm not used
to that sort of thing.
493
00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:49,902
And in my eyes,
I think I'm a very nice person,
494
00:22:50,002 --> 00:22:52,472
and for something like that
to happen, it was just, uh...
495
00:22:52,572 --> 00:22:55,007
incredible to me.
I couldn't believe it.
496
00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:57,644
Gino, what time
was your Condor raided?
497
00:22:57,744 --> 00:22:59,311
About 10:00, 10:30.
498
00:22:59,412 --> 00:23:01,113
Did you have any warning at all?
499
00:23:02,081 --> 00:23:05,251
Seeing a man there with
a camera. That was about it.
500
00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:06,419
Was it a policeman, or...
501
00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:08,154
No, it was just a reporter.
502
00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:10,222
And, uh...
503
00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:14,594
He said, uh, "I guess there's
gonna be a raid."
504
00:23:15,595 --> 00:23:17,063
And what did you do?
505
00:23:17,163 --> 00:23:19,298
I didn't do nothin'.
I didn't believe it.
506
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:23,235
In our cell
was just Gino, Carol, and me.
507
00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:26,473
They just fingerprinted us
and then let us go.
508
00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:28,475
What did the police
charge you with?
509
00:23:28,575 --> 00:23:29,742
I don't know.
510
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:45,424
Do you agree that the topless
should be banned in North Beach?
511
00:23:45,525 --> 00:23:47,794
Uh, no, I don't.
512
00:23:47,894 --> 00:23:50,196
I think a person, if, uh,
if they want to see it,
513
00:23:50,296 --> 00:23:52,965
- they have a right to see it.
- I don't go for it.
514
00:23:53,065 --> 00:23:55,768
I mean, I think the girls
could keep themselves covered.
515
00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:57,637
If it's a bare-chested man, fine.
516
00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,806
Broadway, as it now is
517
00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:01,774
with the various types
of entertainment
518
00:24:01,874 --> 00:24:03,075
that have moved in here,
519
00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:06,012
I would say it's somewhat
of a cesspool.
520
00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:08,648
You're speaking specifically
of the topless, are you not?
521
00:24:08,748 --> 00:24:10,349
Well, yes. What else?
522
00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:13,285
People are overdoing it
when they say,
523
00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:15,655
"Isn't that terrible
what's happening on Broadway?"
524
00:24:15,755 --> 00:24:17,624
It is not terrible.
It's wonderful.
525
00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:23,295
♪ Come, let's stroll ♪
526
00:24:24,564 --> 00:24:26,999
♪ Stroll across the floor ♪
527
00:24:30,336 --> 00:24:33,072
We've got the cleanest,
nicest area
528
00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:35,708
up here in this North Beach
in the whole United States.
529
00:24:35,808 --> 00:24:37,343
And the more people
who congregate here
530
00:24:37,443 --> 00:24:38,678
on Friday and Saturday nights,
531
00:24:38,778 --> 00:24:40,747
there's no crime,
no problems, no nothing.
532
00:24:40,847 --> 00:24:43,349
What they're complaining about,
I don't know.
533
00:24:43,449 --> 00:24:45,384
Because everything
that's gone on here
534
00:24:45,484 --> 00:24:46,919
has gone on in other cities.
535
00:24:47,019 --> 00:24:49,188
But with a little
overtone of, uh,
536
00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:52,491
behind-the-barn sort of a
business. We don't do that here.
537
00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:55,562
Carol, how are you holding up
under all this?
538
00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:57,930
- I'm holding up.
539
00:24:58,030 --> 00:25:01,834
Are you anxious to get back
to work in your normal costume?
540
00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:03,269
Yes, I certainly am.
541
00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:05,538
I intend to give
the police department
542
00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:07,273
and office of the mayor
an education.
543
00:25:07,373 --> 00:25:11,277
And before the last echoes of
last night's explosion is over,
544
00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:13,012
why, I think that, uh, they will
545
00:25:13,112 --> 00:25:15,948
be a little more
in their proper places.
546
00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:19,652
♪ Now, turn around, baby ♪
547
00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:23,055
♪ Let's stroll once more ♪
548
00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:45,878
If the prosecution
couldn't prove
549
00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:48,214
what the consensus
of opinion was
550
00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:51,283
throughout the city and county
of San Francisco,
551
00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,419
then they had failed
to prove a case.
552
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,656
- ♪ Whoa! ♪
553
00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:03,229
What was your reaction to it?
554
00:26:03,329 --> 00:26:06,465
Well, I'm glad it's all over
and I hope this satisfies the...
555
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,400
people who put it up
for a test case,
556
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:09,802
as the courts have decided.
557
00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:12,271
San Francisco was the first city
in the nation
558
00:26:12,371 --> 00:26:14,340
where topless entertainment
became legal.
559
00:26:14,874 --> 00:26:18,144
Ms. Doda may go back to her
piano where she belongs.
560
00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,746
Get outta this courtroom.
561
00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:21,681
What are your plans, Ms. Doda?
562
00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:23,515
- Do you intend to...
- Go back to the piano
563
00:26:23,616 --> 00:26:24,951
where I belong.
564
00:26:25,051 --> 00:26:26,518
How much do you think
it would have cost
565
00:26:26,619 --> 00:26:28,788
to buy this kind of publicity
for the Condor?
566
00:26:29,355 --> 00:26:31,090
I don't think we have
enough money to buy it.
567
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:32,925
It did good for North Beach.
568
00:26:33,025 --> 00:26:35,862
I mean, "These girls are so bad
they got arrested.
569
00:26:35,962 --> 00:26:37,697
Let's go see 'em."
570
00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:39,699
♪ People talkin'
Tryin' to break us up ♪
571
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:42,001
♪ Why don't they let us be? ♪
572
00:26:42,568 --> 00:26:44,303
♪ Bricks and stones
May break my bones ♪
573
00:26:44,403 --> 00:26:46,538
♪ But talk don't bother me... ♪
574
00:26:47,406 --> 00:26:49,441
Lenny Bruce used
to get busted all the time.
575
00:26:49,541 --> 00:26:52,679
Every time he went on the stage
and faced the street west,
576
00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:54,280
he got busted.
577
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:57,183
San Francisco,
I got arrested for, uh...
578
00:26:57,283 --> 00:26:58,885
They said it was vernacular
579
00:26:58,985 --> 00:27:02,454
for a favorite homosexual
practice, a ten-letter word.
580
00:27:02,554 --> 00:27:05,858
It's weird how they manifested
that word as homosexual.
581
00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,727
'Cause I don't.
That relates to any...
582
00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:09,161
contemporary chick I know
or would know
583
00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:10,863
or would love or would marry.
584
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:13,032
He knew
he was gonna get busted
585
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,701
but he did it anyway.
586
00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:18,170
He was somebody
who skirted around obscenity
587
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:21,007
as a way to make people
think harder
588
00:27:21,107 --> 00:27:25,177
about how our ideas about what
was obscene and what was decent
589
00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,346
intersected with our racism,
590
00:27:27,446 --> 00:27:29,015
intersected with our sexism,
591
00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:31,117
intersected with our
anti-Semitism.
592
00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:35,521
Lenny Bruce was
basically saying,
593
00:27:35,621 --> 00:27:37,289
"I can't do this anymore"
594
00:27:38,424 --> 00:27:41,994
as Carol Doda was winding up
595
00:27:42,094 --> 00:27:43,963
and coming into her power.
596
00:27:45,297 --> 00:27:47,700
There was something different
about Carol Doda.
597
00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:50,903
Yes.
598
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:52,271
Quite a bit different.
599
00:27:56,809 --> 00:27:58,845
Is it all right
if I join you up here?
600
00:27:58,945 --> 00:28:00,446
Certainly.
The more, the merrier.
601
00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:04,583
Uh, this isn't
your usual costume, is it?
602
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:07,053
Oh, well, I don't think so.
Do you?
603
00:28:07,153 --> 00:28:09,221
Well, I've never seen your act.
604
00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:12,358
- You're missing something.
605
00:28:12,458 --> 00:28:14,526
Um, what is it actually?
606
00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:16,428
I mean, I know
it's a beautiful gown.
607
00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:19,231
But, um, what's the occasion?
608
00:28:19,331 --> 00:28:21,700
It's for the inaugural ball
in Sacramento.
609
00:28:21,801 --> 00:28:23,635
- You're going to the ball?
- Oh yes.
610
00:28:27,306 --> 00:28:31,110
Like any really
ambitious performer
611
00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:33,212
with a subversive agenda,
612
00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:35,281
that wasn't enough for her.
613
00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:37,349
She wanted to do more
614
00:28:37,449 --> 00:28:40,820
and she wanted to be more.
615
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,023
If you've got
a bunch of girls topless,
616
00:28:44,123 --> 00:28:47,226
what's gonna make them come
and see you instead of her?
617
00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:53,499
It is fascinating the degree
to which size is so important
618
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,102
to the meaning of breasts.
619
00:28:56,702 --> 00:28:59,405
Dave Rosenberg
was competitive with Carol.
620
00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:01,874
He wanted to make sure
nobody was gonna top her.
621
00:29:02,408 --> 00:29:05,444
He's actually the one
who convinced Carol.
622
00:29:06,045 --> 00:29:07,914
You know, "You wanna be a star?
623
00:29:09,048 --> 00:29:10,649
We gotta get you pumped up."
624
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:14,686
We have this assumption
in American society today
625
00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:17,957
that breasts have always been
erotic objects.
626
00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:20,126
But if you look
at these sex symbols
627
00:29:20,226 --> 00:29:21,794
of the early 20th century,
628
00:29:21,894 --> 00:29:23,830
you'll find they were famous
for their legs.
629
00:29:25,932 --> 00:29:28,000
It's only after the war
630
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,270
that you have the rise,
so to speak,
631
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:36,542
of the big bosom as something
that's very fetishized.
632
00:29:36,642 --> 00:29:39,345
Because prior to World War II,
633
00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:42,348
the majority of women would
breastfeed their children.
634
00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:45,784
And post-war,
there's a shift to formula.
635
00:29:45,885 --> 00:29:48,387
When a baby isn't
hanging off a breast,
636
00:29:48,487 --> 00:29:50,857
there's a greater opportunity
to sexualize it.
637
00:29:50,957 --> 00:29:52,724
Why was
Marilyn Monroe so popular?
638
00:29:52,825 --> 00:29:54,326
Why was Jayne Mansfield
so popular?
639
00:29:54,426 --> 00:29:55,862
Why was Jane Russell
so popular?
640
00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:57,663
Men want boobs.
641
00:29:58,564 --> 00:30:01,067
* Betty Lou
Got a new pair of shoes ♪
642
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,970
♪ Betty Lou
Got a new pair of shoes ♪
643
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:07,239
♪ Betty Lou
Got a new pair of shoes ♪
644
00:30:07,339 --> 00:30:09,075
♪ Betty Lou
Got a new pair of shoes ♪
645
00:30:09,175 --> 00:30:11,743
I came to work one day.
My boss said,
646
00:30:11,844 --> 00:30:14,580
"Oh, there's this doctor
that's giving these injections
647
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,315
that enlarge the breasts."
648
00:30:16,415 --> 00:30:18,350
He says,
"You should look into that."
649
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:20,887
And I thought to myself,
right then and there,
650
00:30:20,987 --> 00:30:22,754
"He's trying
to tell me something."
651
00:30:23,189 --> 00:30:25,024
She always had
a cute little figure.
652
00:30:25,124 --> 00:30:26,325
There... I mean...
653
00:30:26,758 --> 00:30:29,128
her breasts were fine.
They were...
654
00:30:29,929 --> 00:30:31,397
She's small.
655
00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:34,066
- She was sort of flat-chested.
- She was flat-chested.
656
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:37,603
We told her she had
two fried eggs for breasts.
657
00:30:37,703 --> 00:30:39,939
And so she embarked
on this course
658
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:42,041
which was, at the time,
quite experimental.
659
00:30:42,141 --> 00:30:44,243
It was quite
a thing when she first did it
660
00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:46,012
'cause we never heard
about this,
661
00:30:46,112 --> 00:30:48,580
you know, augmenting...
you know, breast augmentation.
662
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,216
Carol Doda and I
were getting silicone
663
00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:52,418
at the same doctor
at the same time.
664
00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:54,286
Dr. Vincent Spano.
665
00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:56,755
He was the famous silicone
doctor in San Francisco.
666
00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,591
You've taken
these silicone, uh...
667
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:02,161
Was wondering when
we were gonna get to that.
668
00:31:02,995 --> 00:31:04,430
Uh, yes, I have.
669
00:31:05,064 --> 00:31:07,599
Did you have
any fear about these shots?
670
00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:09,969
No, I didn't at that time.
671
00:31:10,069 --> 00:31:12,271
You took them from a doctor?
672
00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:13,772
Of course.
673
00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:16,108
Couldn't have taken them
from a veterinarian.
674
00:31:16,808 --> 00:31:18,810
It was scary
when I first went in
675
00:31:18,911 --> 00:31:20,947
and he came at me
with this long needle.
676
00:31:21,047 --> 00:31:22,414
I was like...
677
00:31:22,514 --> 00:31:25,617
It depends on how bad
you want something.
678
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,053
You want something bad enough,
679
00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:28,820
you're willing to pay
the price for it.
680
00:31:29,355 --> 00:31:31,323
She'd be in one room
and he'd be doing her
681
00:31:31,423 --> 00:31:32,925
and then he'd come in
and do me.
682
00:31:33,025 --> 00:31:35,294
We could hear each other
and he'd say, "Carol,
683
00:31:35,394 --> 00:31:37,396
I cannot give you
any more silicone.
684
00:31:37,496 --> 00:31:39,765
Your breasts
are going to explode.
685
00:31:39,865 --> 00:31:41,300
They're little.
They can't hold it."
686
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,502
"No, come on, doctor.
Just one more."
687
00:31:43,602 --> 00:31:45,271
'Cause she wanted to be bigger
than everybody else.
688
00:31:45,371 --> 00:31:47,006
The doctor's trying
to kick us out,
689
00:31:47,106 --> 00:31:49,341
saying, "Look, you two girls,
you're big enough.
690
00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:51,243
You don't need
any more silicone."
691
00:31:52,044 --> 00:31:55,114
I made the comment
to Davey and Gino.
692
00:31:55,214 --> 00:31:57,649
They knew what was going on.
I didn't.
693
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,418
And I says,
"She's gettin' bigger,"
694
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:02,154
and they all say, "Oh, you're
just imagining things."
695
00:32:02,721 --> 00:32:05,257
Week after week, they
were getting bigger and bigger.
696
00:32:05,357 --> 00:32:07,293
And there was a point
when they were just right,
697
00:32:08,027 --> 00:32:08,995
and then...
698
00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:11,397
eventually, they got huge.
699
00:32:12,464 --> 00:32:14,800
If I was going to do this,
700
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,502
I was gonna do it in a big way.
701
00:32:17,203 --> 00:32:22,808
She got 44 injections
of silicone into her breasts,
702
00:32:22,908 --> 00:32:26,012
bumping her up from a B cup
703
00:32:26,112 --> 00:32:27,646
to a 44DD.
704
00:32:35,721 --> 00:32:37,990
I went up to the dressing room
705
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:41,793
and she was all black and blue
from the shots.
706
00:32:41,893 --> 00:32:44,330
So she puts pancake makeup on.
707
00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:47,866
And I asked her, I says,
"Carol, what are you doing?
708
00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:50,169
Do you know where that's going
in your body?"
709
00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:53,105
She says, "Pete, it's my body.
Mind your own business."
710
00:32:53,939 --> 00:32:55,641
I says, "Okay," and I left.
711
00:32:56,342 --> 00:33:00,479
I'm sure she thought it was safe
and it was an opportunity
712
00:33:01,447 --> 00:33:03,715
to be something special.
713
00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:06,252
But she was special
just being herself.
714
00:33:06,952 --> 00:33:08,687
I didn't want her
to do it at all.
715
00:33:08,787 --> 00:33:11,857
I said, "Carol, you can't be
doing this. It's your health."
716
00:33:11,957 --> 00:33:13,092
She kind of didn't care.
717
00:33:13,192 --> 00:33:15,161
She was more interested
in entertaining.
718
00:33:15,261 --> 00:33:18,330
And of course, Rosenberg was
pushing her to do this.
719
00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:20,066
She had nobody else.
She had nobody.
720
00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,234
She just had the public
to entertain.
721
00:33:22,768 --> 00:33:24,536
She was that lonely of a
person.
722
00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,107
Your family say
anything? Were they worried?
723
00:33:28,207 --> 00:33:29,875
No. You see, I, um...
724
00:33:30,609 --> 00:33:32,911
I've been on my own
for quite a while
725
00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:35,181
and, uh, my family
never has a say-so
726
00:33:35,281 --> 00:33:36,915
in matters pertaining to me.
727
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:38,217
A self-made woman.
728
00:33:38,317 --> 00:33:40,586
Yes, you could say that.
Really.
729
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:42,888
That's exactly how it is.
730
00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:46,558
She wasn't open
about her past at all.
731
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:49,961
She never talked about
her family.
732
00:33:50,062 --> 00:33:53,132
I never saw her
family ever come into the club.
733
00:33:53,232 --> 00:33:57,303
I worked 19 years on the street,
but most of it at the Condor.
734
00:33:57,403 --> 00:33:59,071
Where you from, Carol?
735
00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:02,074
I'm from around here,
Northern California.
736
00:34:02,174 --> 00:34:04,943
As W.C. Fields once
said about Mae West,
737
00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:07,045
"I can see what's good.
Tell me the rest."
738
00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:12,784
Well, I don't know what
Mae West answered, but, uh...
739
00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,254
there's not too much to tell
in that department.
740
00:34:15,354 --> 00:34:16,622
All right.
741
00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:18,757
She did have
a rough childhood.
742
00:34:18,857 --> 00:34:21,793
Mother and father, they split
up when she was just a child,
743
00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:23,462
about three or four years old.
744
00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:26,632
I'm not too sure who raised her
after. I guess her mother.
745
00:34:26,732 --> 00:34:28,267
I was in a Catholic school.
746
00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:30,102
I was too young to be there
but they accepted me
747
00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:34,005
because of the broken, you know,
marriage and everything.
748
00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:36,007
So I was about four years old
749
00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:39,478
and I lived at
this Catholic school.
750
00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:40,946
I know she didn't feel
751
00:34:41,046 --> 00:34:43,349
she had a good relationship
with her mom.
752
00:34:43,782 --> 00:34:46,152
Her mom was an alcoholic.
753
00:34:46,252 --> 00:34:48,086
Her mother
was tough on her.
754
00:34:48,187 --> 00:34:49,188
Really tough.
755
00:34:50,055 --> 00:34:51,557
She said beat her up and...
756
00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:55,527
that's why she left home
at an early age.
757
00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:57,829
She was very straightlaced.
758
00:34:57,929 --> 00:35:00,832
At that time, she didn't drink,
she didn't do drugs.
759
00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:02,868
She was very guarded.
760
00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:05,804
It was hard to get to know her.
761
00:35:05,904 --> 00:35:07,139
She wasn't real friendly
762
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,774
with many of the girls
on the street.
763
00:35:08,874 --> 00:35:11,042
But she and I kind of
identified with each other.
764
00:35:11,143 --> 00:35:14,480
She'd do my hair, my makeup.
She was very talented.
765
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:18,016
And she and I were like
the only two there all the time.
766
00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:19,485
When she was on stage
767
00:35:19,585 --> 00:35:21,853
and she was being filmed
and doing publicity,
768
00:35:21,953 --> 00:35:23,555
she was happy.
769
00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:26,325
The rest of the time,
she was a loner and very sad.
770
00:35:27,092 --> 00:35:29,995
You see Herb Caen's
item on you in Ramparts?
771
00:35:30,095 --> 00:35:31,797
- Somebody gave it to me.
- I heard about it.
772
00:35:31,897 --> 00:35:33,532
Told me about it at the garage
that I park.
773
00:35:33,632 --> 00:35:35,133
Have any comment on it?
774
00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:37,002
No, he makes good copy.
775
00:35:37,102 --> 00:35:39,037
- He makes good copy...
- That's all.
776
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,307
...and tasteless
jokes, I would say.
777
00:35:41,407 --> 00:35:44,075
Herb Caen
was a very famous journalist
778
00:35:44,176 --> 00:35:45,344
in San Francisco.
779
00:35:45,444 --> 00:35:46,645
If you got
in Herb Caen's column,
780
00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:47,846
you really did something.
781
00:35:47,946 --> 00:35:49,248
Everybody wanted
to be in his column.
782
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,022
Dave Rosenberg,
he had a lot of juice.
783
00:35:57,122 --> 00:36:00,226
He could get you in newspapers, columns.
784
00:36:00,326 --> 00:36:01,960
Davey and Herb
were really tight.
785
00:36:02,528 --> 00:36:04,963
He always got something
in Herb Caen's column.
786
00:36:05,664 --> 00:36:09,100
Whenever Herb Caen needed pot,
he used get a hold of Davey
787
00:36:09,201 --> 00:36:10,436
and Davey'd get a hold of me
788
00:36:10,536 --> 00:36:13,004
and we'd get him a little pot.
789
00:36:13,104 --> 00:36:15,006
Can I read a line or two of it?
790
00:36:15,106 --> 00:36:16,508
If you wish.
- [Feinstein] All right.
791
00:36:16,608 --> 00:36:19,911
"When Carol Doda
first began taking silicone...
792
00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:22,881
I reported the migratory
tendencies of the stuff,
793
00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:25,251
concluding with this
dolorous observation
794
00:36:25,351 --> 00:36:26,818
by a respected medic:
795
00:36:26,918 --> 00:36:28,587
'Miss Doda may yet wind up
796
00:36:28,687 --> 00:36:31,523
with the two largest kneecaps
in the world.'"
797
00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:34,893
Well, I could, uh,
readily believe that statement
798
00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:37,929
if I was not, uh,
up to date on it.
799
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:40,366
All these doctors have
all these different theories.
800
00:36:40,466 --> 00:36:42,468
You see, it's a very
controversial subject.
801
00:36:42,568 --> 00:36:44,803
Mm-hm. You don't
mind? You're a good sport?
802
00:36:44,903 --> 00:36:47,038
I think they have to
make their column interesting
803
00:36:47,138 --> 00:36:48,774
so if they need me
to make it interesting,
804
00:36:48,874 --> 00:36:50,175
I must be pretty important.
805
00:36:50,642 --> 00:36:52,944
She's fabulous.
She's complicated.
806
00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:55,647
We didn't need another
Betty Friedan
807
00:36:55,747 --> 00:36:58,417
to tell us about
"the problem without a name."
808
00:36:58,517 --> 00:37:00,719
Carol Doda shot up her breasts
809
00:37:00,819 --> 00:37:03,755
and she showed us that there
was a problem without a name.
810
00:37:03,855 --> 00:37:07,125
The problem was ridiculous
double standards about women
811
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,727
and objectification.
812
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:11,096
You could say, "Oh, look at
her,
813
00:37:11,196 --> 00:37:13,532
submitting to the male gaze,
814
00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:17,403
being a Barbie doll on
steroids." Yeah, no kidding.
815
00:37:17,503 --> 00:37:20,572
It was almost like Carol Doda
was saying,
816
00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:23,074
"My body is the art
817
00:37:23,174 --> 00:37:25,577
and the performance
is going to go on."
818
00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:29,348
* Come on
All you surfers, grab a girl ♪
819
00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:31,283
"And if my route
to success
820
00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:34,620
is the male gaze
and objectification,
821
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:36,187
I'm gonna fuck it up.
822
00:37:36,288 --> 00:37:37,656
I'm gonna go all the way."
823
00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:38,857
♪ Come on, baby ♪
824
00:37:38,957 --> 00:37:40,359
♪ Woo-woo ♪
825
00:37:40,459 --> 00:37:42,528
- ♪ Come on, baby ♪
- ♪ Woo-woo ♪
826
00:37:42,628 --> 00:37:47,265
The key thing is that women
are the object of male gazes
827
00:37:47,366 --> 00:37:50,969
and the male gaze is dominant
and it is a form of power.
828
00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:55,607
So women grow up
learning to perceive themselves
829
00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:57,309
through the male gaze
830
00:37:57,409 --> 00:38:00,446
and men don't.
831
00:38:00,546 --> 00:38:02,013
People would say,
832
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:04,049
"Oh, that's such a demeaning
thing you're doing."
833
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:07,353
Well...
834
00:38:07,453 --> 00:38:08,854
"If I'm not doing it,
somebody else,
835
00:38:08,954 --> 00:38:10,889
and look at all the money
I'm making.
836
00:38:10,989 --> 00:38:12,558
What's the big deal?"
837
00:38:12,658 --> 00:38:15,394
It was great. Here I am,
a woman. "Give me your money."
838
00:38:15,961 --> 00:38:18,564
On the one hand,
Carol Doda took the male gaze
839
00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:20,666
and twisted it
to her own benefit,
840
00:38:20,766 --> 00:38:22,868
and she did well by that.
841
00:38:22,968 --> 00:38:24,803
But I think what
she couldn't have anticipated
842
00:38:24,903 --> 00:38:28,173
is the legacy that she would
leave on women to come
843
00:38:28,273 --> 00:38:32,344
who then felt that they needed
to live up to this male gaze
844
00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:35,747
which had been sort of enhanced
and exaggerated
845
00:38:35,847 --> 00:38:38,350
by the presence
of these large breasts.
846
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:41,353
It's a very particular lens
through which to see beauty
847
00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:43,422
and through which
to see sexuality
848
00:38:43,522 --> 00:38:45,524
that's ultimately
been very limiting
849
00:38:45,624 --> 00:38:49,327
and has led to some serious
body dysmorphia,
850
00:38:49,428 --> 00:38:51,463
uh, in women to follow.
851
00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:54,500
There's no question
in my mind that
852
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,868
the unequal division between
853
00:38:56,968 --> 00:39:00,071
the female dancer
and the male viewer
854
00:39:00,606 --> 00:39:02,908
and the transaction
of the money involved...
855
00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:08,113
Topless clubs are a reflection
of a patriarchal society.
856
00:39:08,213 --> 00:39:10,449
But that doesn't mean there
aren't individual women
857
00:39:10,549 --> 00:39:14,386
who may very well find a very
strong sense of empowerment
858
00:39:14,486 --> 00:39:17,055
for themselves
in those environments.
859
00:39:26,297 --> 00:39:28,400
My fantasy
was to be a stripper.
860
00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:31,202
It's just kind of exciting
861
00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:32,904
and here,
you got all the lights
862
00:39:33,004 --> 00:39:35,974
and people are watching you
like you're really important.
863
00:39:36,074 --> 00:39:37,809
And just kind of a good feeling.
864
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:41,112
I don't know if every girl
has that fantasy.
865
00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:42,681
Maybe not. But I did.
866
00:39:43,248 --> 00:39:45,250
I've always been a free spirit,
I think.
867
00:39:46,317 --> 00:39:48,119
So I moved into San Francisco
868
00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:51,757
in a hotel above the Trieste
coffee shop there.
869
00:39:56,595 --> 00:39:58,163
I was just calling up
every place
870
00:39:58,263 --> 00:40:01,099
and eventually
somebody would need a stripper.
871
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:02,568
'Cause if I would have
auditioned,
872
00:40:02,668 --> 00:40:04,069
they would have never hired me.
873
00:40:04,169 --> 00:40:07,473
I had legs,
but I'm kind of flat-chested.
874
00:40:08,106 --> 00:40:09,908
But I still wanted to do it.
875
00:40:10,542 --> 00:40:12,177
I would wait until
they were desperate,
876
00:40:12,277 --> 00:40:14,079
when they really
needed somebody.
877
00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:15,747
And before they saw me, right?
878
00:40:15,847 --> 00:40:17,082
They were desperate.
879
00:40:17,182 --> 00:40:19,651
And then I would do
one set at one place
880
00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:21,219
and then they'd get rid of me.
881
00:40:21,853 --> 00:40:24,656
So I'd call up another place,
like the Condor,
882
00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:26,324
and I'd go, "Need a stripper?
883
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:30,462
My name's Sharon. I danced
at the El Cid last night."
884
00:40:30,562 --> 00:40:31,930
If I said I was Mary Ann,
they'd go,
885
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,298
"Oh, no. Don't want you."
886
00:40:33,398 --> 00:40:35,433
I was Sharon one night,
Judy the next.
887
00:40:35,534 --> 00:40:37,703
I think I danced at every club.
888
00:40:37,803 --> 00:40:39,805
But just once.
889
00:40:41,473 --> 00:40:43,108
You know,
they were selling boobs.
890
00:40:43,742 --> 00:40:46,545
And here they have this girl
up there with no boobs.
891
00:40:46,645 --> 00:40:49,047
Boo. They didn't want
to see that.
892
00:40:50,115 --> 00:40:51,550
The word "exploitation"
893
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:54,185
is really important to look at
and pick apart.
894
00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:56,054
It's usually used in two ways.
895
00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:58,389
One, feminists who believe
896
00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:01,026
that it's not possible for
a woman to be a sex worker
897
00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:02,628
or an adult performer
898
00:41:02,728 --> 00:41:07,733
without being inherently,
fundamentally exploited
899
00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:09,968
by the patriarchy,
by the male gaze.
900
00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:12,170
Then there's a counter argument
to that which is,
901
00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:16,207
these women are leveraging it
and making money.
902
00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:19,077
Exploit... Of course
we were all exploited.
903
00:41:19,177 --> 00:41:23,048
We were in our little leotards
and serving cocktails
904
00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:25,183
and Carol's up there
being topless.
905
00:41:25,283 --> 00:41:28,353
I mean, in a way,
you could call it exploitation.
906
00:41:28,453 --> 00:41:31,489
But... that's how
we look at it now.
907
00:41:32,257 --> 00:41:34,893
I think in those days
it was just a job.
908
00:41:35,694 --> 00:41:37,328
I don't think
she felt exploited.
909
00:41:37,428 --> 00:41:39,230
I think she loved what she did.
910
00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:40,732
She wanted to be a dancer,
911
00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:42,934
she wanted to be on stage,
and she was.
912
00:41:43,569 --> 00:41:46,905
How do you feel now
being a sex symbol?
913
00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:49,174
You didn't feel that you were
prostituting yourself
914
00:41:49,274 --> 00:41:51,677
by going topless?
915
00:41:51,777 --> 00:41:54,946
No, because you could prostitute
yourself with your brain,
916
00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:56,848
with anything,
any part of your body.
917
00:41:56,948 --> 00:41:59,250
Uh, your breasts
are just another part.
918
00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:04,222
I really wanna know what you
think of the Broadway scene
919
00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:06,124
and sex today.
920
00:42:06,224 --> 00:42:07,893
Do you think
this is a good step forward?
921
00:42:07,993 --> 00:42:09,961
Has this sort of cleaned up
922
00:42:10,061 --> 00:42:12,598
a lot of the puritanical
hang-ups that we had?
923
00:42:12,698 --> 00:42:13,765
Do you see it as healthy?
924
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:16,067
So many people in America today
925
00:42:16,735 --> 00:42:18,536
do not have
926
00:42:18,637 --> 00:42:22,240
the, uh, imagination for sex.
927
00:42:22,340 --> 00:42:25,476
To have sex, you have to have
something in your mind first.
928
00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:27,378
You have to have something
in your imagination.
929
00:42:27,478 --> 00:42:29,981
I give them a fantasy,
which people need.
930
00:42:30,081 --> 00:42:32,751
The lovely Carol Doda
on stage here tonight!
931
00:42:38,189 --> 00:42:41,727
Carol was a seductive stripper.
932
00:42:41,827 --> 00:42:42,894
Like a star.
933
00:42:43,862 --> 00:42:45,230
You know? Had an attitude.
934
00:42:45,997 --> 00:42:47,866
You don't wanna go up there
and be meek.
935
00:42:48,499 --> 00:42:50,068
Gotta show 'em what you got.
936
00:42:51,703 --> 00:42:53,004
She was funny.
937
00:42:53,104 --> 00:42:55,774
She had a very comedic
sense of humor.
938
00:42:55,874 --> 00:42:58,677
She was really good
at getting to audiences.
939
00:42:58,777 --> 00:43:00,111
♪ She don't know nothin' ♪
940
00:43:00,211 --> 00:43:01,680
♪ Thinks there's nothin'
she don't know ♪
941
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:03,014
♪ She thinks she's
where it's at ♪
942
00:43:03,114 --> 00:43:05,116
♪ In that one spot
she never left ♪
943
00:43:05,216 --> 00:43:06,584
♪ She spends all of her time ♪
944
00:43:06,685 --> 00:43:08,586
♪ Tryin' to prove it
to herself now ♪
945
00:43:10,455 --> 00:43:12,257
♪ Well ♪
946
00:43:12,357 --> 00:43:17,428
♪ I don't want no woman
wrapped up in cellophane... ♪
947
00:43:17,528 --> 00:43:19,130
Wasn't just a performance.
948
00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:20,699
It was an interaction
with the crowd.
949
00:43:20,799 --> 00:43:22,533
It's an escape
for a little while.
950
00:43:22,634 --> 00:43:24,335
'Cause everybody has problems.
951
00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:25,871
If I can alleviate them
of their problems
952
00:43:25,971 --> 00:43:27,438
for a few moments,
953
00:43:27,538 --> 00:43:28,774
that's the greatest gift
in the world
954
00:43:28,874 --> 00:43:30,709
that I can give to somebody.
955
00:43:32,778 --> 00:43:36,214
She reminded me of Mae West.
956
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:41,853
Well, it's better to be
looked over than overlooked.
957
00:43:46,224 --> 00:43:48,059
Oh, just that
they measure up right.
958
00:43:53,098 --> 00:43:55,801
What would be the proper
measurements for a topless girl?
959
00:43:55,901 --> 00:43:57,135
Well, I don't know.
960
00:43:57,235 --> 00:43:58,804
I mean, myself,
I never know my own.
961
00:43:58,904 --> 00:44:01,572
I expand with... the weather.
962
00:44:01,673 --> 00:44:04,309
I understand you
were just honored nationally.
963
00:44:04,409 --> 00:44:07,813
Yeah, hidden assets.
Business Person of the Year.
964
00:44:07,913 --> 00:44:09,480
But I think they made a
mistake.
965
00:44:09,580 --> 00:44:12,050
It should have been Business
Persons of the Year.
966
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:13,752
I didn't get the award.
967
00:44:13,852 --> 00:44:15,186
But they did.
You know?
968
00:44:15,286 --> 00:44:17,155
- So I just went along with them
969
00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:19,624
to Boston to accept this award.
970
00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:25,330
Carol, what makes
you go? Is it-- You know,
971
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:28,366
they say that money or power
or prestige are the three big--
972
00:44:28,466 --> 00:44:29,935
Oh, I know that.
973
00:44:30,035 --> 00:44:32,337
- I... No, it's, uh, insecurity.
- What is it for you?
974
00:44:34,205 --> 00:44:36,407
- Is it really?
- Vitamins and insecurity.
975
00:44:36,507 --> 00:44:37,976
But...
976
00:44:38,944 --> 00:44:40,011
That's marvelous.
977
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:44,615
Carol, where do you see
yourself in 20, 30 years?
978
00:44:44,716 --> 00:44:46,184
- For what?
- The whole life of--
979
00:44:46,284 --> 00:44:48,720
I see myself as an entertainer
980
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:50,889
in many different fields
of entertainment.
981
00:44:50,989 --> 00:44:52,523
I feel I would be stagnant
982
00:44:52,623 --> 00:44:54,860
if I was just one thing
all the time.
983
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,635
One day, I decided
to go to the Garden of Eden
984
00:45:04,736 --> 00:45:07,238
and there was a sign, "Batman."
985
00:45:07,338 --> 00:45:09,474
And I was like, "Oh, wow,
this is gonna be cool."
986
00:45:09,574 --> 00:45:10,776
That's when I met Jimi.
987
00:45:10,876 --> 00:45:13,611
Jimi and Tara
were the main act.
988
00:45:14,479 --> 00:45:16,481
Went home one night
and I was watching television
989
00:45:16,581 --> 00:45:20,618
and I saw this woman doing
a voodoo dance with snakes.
990
00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:22,120
I said, "I can do that."
991
00:45:22,587 --> 00:45:24,289
I was terrified of snakes.
992
00:45:24,389 --> 00:45:27,125
She go into the pet store
and want a boa constrictor.
993
00:45:27,859 --> 00:45:30,295
I just kept
getting bigger and bigger
994
00:45:30,395 --> 00:45:34,165
and I ended up with
a seven-foot anaconda
995
00:45:34,265 --> 00:45:36,267
which was as big around
as my leg.
996
00:45:36,367 --> 00:45:38,669
One morning, I'm getting
up and all of a sudden,
997
00:45:38,770 --> 00:45:40,271
"Jimi, Jimi! Come and help me!"
998
00:45:40,371 --> 00:45:42,073
She's got this thing
started around her
999
00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:44,242
and got this snake by the neck
1000
00:45:44,342 --> 00:45:47,445
and it's got its mouth open...
1001
00:45:47,545 --> 00:45:49,147
This woman was brave.
1002
00:45:49,781 --> 00:45:53,651
I had 120 pounds
of snakes on me at one time.
1003
00:45:53,751 --> 00:45:55,653
Then I decided
I needed a monkey.
1004
00:45:56,287 --> 00:45:57,555
Oh, please.
1005
00:45:57,856 --> 00:46:00,025
My monkey's name
was Miss Troubles
1006
00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:01,993
and she'd have
a little costume on.
1007
00:46:02,093 --> 00:46:04,029
If I had a sequined outfit,
she'd have one.
1008
00:46:04,129 --> 00:46:05,897
She would just sit on my arm
1009
00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:08,299
and play with my boob,
and people loved her.
1010
00:46:10,301 --> 00:46:12,703
And put a diaper on it
to keep it from messing.
1011
00:46:12,804 --> 00:46:14,439
But that was her baby.
1012
00:46:14,539 --> 00:46:17,275
We billed her as the
world's only topless monkey.
1013
00:46:17,909 --> 00:46:21,479
And then I decided I wanted
to do a fire act.
1014
00:46:21,579 --> 00:46:24,182
She saw a guy
in the streets doing the fire.
1015
00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:25,683
She said,
"Teach me how to do that."
1016
00:46:25,783 --> 00:46:28,019
She'd shoot out fire
from her mouth.
1017
00:46:28,753 --> 00:46:30,221
Said, "Girl, what's up
with you?"
1018
00:46:30,321 --> 00:46:33,892
"Are you from heaven
or hell? What is this?"
1019
00:46:33,992 --> 00:46:35,927
Fire, snake, a monkey.
1020
00:46:36,461 --> 00:46:38,729
But she drew crowds
by the thousands.
1021
00:46:38,830 --> 00:46:40,498
They came in,
night after night.
1022
00:46:40,598 --> 00:46:43,634
♪ Wah, wah-a-watusi ♪
1023
00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:48,907
♪ Come on and take a chance ♪
1024
00:46:49,007 --> 00:46:51,076
♪ And get-a
with this dance... ♪
1025
00:46:51,676 --> 00:46:53,678
North Beach
put millions of dollars
1026
00:46:53,778 --> 00:46:55,713
in the coffers of the city.
1027
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,349
If you have a sales convention,
I'll guarantee you sales guys,
1028
00:46:58,449 --> 00:47:01,052
they wanna go to San Francisco.
"We wanna see this topless."
1029
00:47:01,152 --> 00:47:05,323
And synonymous with the word
"topless" was Carol.
1030
00:47:05,423 --> 00:47:07,558
You've made a pretty good name
for this place in North Beach.
1031
00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:09,760
You ever plan on touring
with your act or anything?
1032
00:47:09,861 --> 00:47:12,063
Oh, I plan on...
1033
00:47:12,163 --> 00:47:13,731
spreading myself out.
1034
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,168
Been receiving
a lot of mail from Vietnam.
1035
00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:19,170
- That's right.
- How'd they get your picture?
1036
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:21,940
Well, uh, somehow, my picture
1037
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,741
got into Stars and Stripes .
1038
00:47:23,841 --> 00:47:25,510
You answer all of them?
1039
00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:27,312
Oh yes,
I have writer's cramp.
1040
00:47:28,479 --> 00:47:29,747
I talked with her
1041
00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:31,216
about some of her
16,000 letters
1042
00:47:31,316 --> 00:47:32,450
from overseas.
1043
00:47:33,484 --> 00:47:35,286
This one says, "Dear Miss Doda.
1044
00:47:35,386 --> 00:47:38,023
Let me just say that I enjoyed
your act so much.
1045
00:47:38,123 --> 00:47:40,391
I would like to remember you
when I'm overseas.
1046
00:47:40,491 --> 00:47:43,394
Would you be so kind as to
send me a picture of yourself?
1047
00:47:43,494 --> 00:47:46,397
It would help me so much.
Thank you. Love, Mike."
1048
00:47:46,497 --> 00:47:50,535
Does any of this mail contain
proposals, of marriage that is?
1049
00:47:50,635 --> 00:47:53,771
Uh, no. I'm not the type
they want to marry.
1050
00:47:55,006 --> 00:47:57,909
I'm just the type
they want to look at.
1051
00:47:58,009 --> 00:47:59,744
They say every war generates
1052
00:47:59,844 --> 00:48:02,247
the kind of pinup girl
it deserves.
1053
00:48:02,347 --> 00:48:05,483
I mention this meaning
no disrespect to Miss Doda
1054
00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:08,286
or to the war in Vietnam.
1055
00:48:08,386 --> 00:48:11,923
She had national
and international renown.
1056
00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:22,733
She blew
San Francisco wide open.
1057
00:48:22,833 --> 00:48:24,002
Internationally.
1058
00:48:24,102 --> 00:48:26,104
People from around the world
would come
1059
00:48:26,204 --> 00:48:27,572
to see Carol Doda.
1060
00:48:28,006 --> 00:48:29,774
Carol was the star.
1061
00:48:29,874 --> 00:48:31,943
Busloads of people drove up.
1062
00:48:32,043 --> 00:48:33,344
It was huge.
1063
00:48:33,444 --> 00:48:35,947
The cars, people going
up and down the street.
1064
00:48:36,047 --> 00:48:37,782
That was the place to go.
1065
00:48:37,882 --> 00:48:41,752
And you see the lights and
you're like, "Yes, Broadway!"
1066
00:48:43,621 --> 00:48:45,690
When we first started
on Broadway,
1067
00:48:45,790 --> 00:48:47,592
you had the cream of the crop:
1068
00:48:47,692 --> 00:48:51,296
movie stars, politicians,
professional athletes.
1069
00:48:51,396 --> 00:48:55,466
Lew Alcindor came in and I come
with my tray and I see this.
1070
00:48:55,566 --> 00:48:56,834
I'm like...
1071
00:49:01,206 --> 00:49:04,109
He came in
with his mom to the Condor.
1072
00:49:04,209 --> 00:49:07,445
Oh, he was so famous
all over the world.
1073
00:49:07,545 --> 00:49:09,514
The piano brought him in.
1074
00:49:16,187 --> 00:49:18,056
There was this
one little table
1075
00:49:18,156 --> 00:49:19,957
that was sort of roped off.
1076
00:49:20,058 --> 00:49:21,859
Sat about eight people.
1077
00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:24,729
He'd always call, "Pete,
could I have that table?"
1078
00:49:24,829 --> 00:49:26,331
I'd say, "You got it, Walter."
1079
00:49:26,431 --> 00:49:30,568
And that's the way it is,
Monday, September 2, 1963.
1080
00:49:30,668 --> 00:49:32,403
When Andy Warhol
was in town,
1081
00:49:32,503 --> 00:49:36,741
he would always ask Carol
to be part of his entourage.
1082
00:49:36,841 --> 00:49:39,077
I was very impressed by that.
1083
00:49:39,177 --> 00:49:42,147
I'm like, "Oh, you get to go
out with Andy Warhol."
1084
00:49:42,847 --> 00:49:46,817
And she was like, "Oh, Pamela,
you wouldn't like him."
1085
00:49:46,917 --> 00:49:48,686
I said, "What do you mean?"
1086
00:49:49,254 --> 00:49:50,521
"Because he never talks."
1087
00:49:50,621 --> 00:49:52,257
Aren't you gonna
say one word, Andy?
1088
00:49:53,691 --> 00:49:55,560
" He just wants
to record us.
1089
00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:57,628
So you wouldn't like him,
Pamela,
1090
00:49:57,728 --> 00:49:59,730
because he's very boring."
1091
00:50:00,598 --> 00:50:03,601
Carol told me
the almost unknown fling
1092
00:50:03,701 --> 00:50:05,203
that she had for a while
1093
00:50:05,303 --> 00:50:07,505
with Frank Sinatra.
1094
00:50:07,605 --> 00:50:09,707
He would send his private plane
1095
00:50:09,807 --> 00:50:11,709
down to pick her up
in San Francisco
1096
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:14,079
from Cal Neva casino and resort
1097
00:50:14,179 --> 00:50:16,047
where he was one of the owners.
1098
00:50:16,147 --> 00:50:17,315
She'd be walked through
1099
00:50:17,448 --> 00:50:19,350
to what's called
the Celebrity Room
1100
00:50:19,450 --> 00:50:21,352
when there was no one
in the main bar.
1101
00:50:21,452 --> 00:50:25,756
Basically, it was your typical
trap door with a rug over it.
1102
00:50:25,856 --> 00:50:28,593
A handler would lead her down
into tunnels
1103
00:50:28,693 --> 00:50:30,361
that went
in different directions.
1104
00:50:30,461 --> 00:50:33,231
It was set up so that gangsters
1105
00:50:33,331 --> 00:50:35,032
that were not allowed
to be around gambling
1106
00:50:35,133 --> 00:50:36,234
could get in and out.
1107
00:50:36,334 --> 00:50:37,602
And so Frank used it
1108
00:50:37,702 --> 00:50:39,837
to bring his girls
in and out of there.
1109
00:50:40,405 --> 00:50:43,241
She would be taken
to Frank's personal chalet
1110
00:50:43,341 --> 00:50:44,742
down by the lake.
1111
00:50:44,842 --> 00:50:47,545
She really had an affinity
for Frank.
1112
00:50:47,645 --> 00:50:51,216
She thought he was one of the
greatest men she'd ever met.
1113
00:50:51,316 --> 00:50:53,251
She really dug Frank Sinatra.
1114
00:50:53,351 --> 00:50:55,186
He was like an idol to her.
1115
00:50:55,286 --> 00:50:59,056
♪ 'Cause you make me feel
so young... ♪
1116
00:50:59,157 --> 00:51:00,791
One thing
that she got a kick out of
1117
00:51:00,891 --> 00:51:03,261
was that Frank pictured himself
1118
00:51:03,361 --> 00:51:06,497
as being a really,
really macho man's man.
1119
00:51:06,597 --> 00:51:10,601
And he had this bald spot
which nobody knows about
1120
00:51:10,701 --> 00:51:12,637
because he always covered it
up.
1121
00:51:12,737 --> 00:51:16,407
He would actually have her
come in before he did a show
1122
00:51:16,507 --> 00:51:17,908
and give her some boot spray
1123
00:51:18,008 --> 00:51:20,010
to spray paint the bald spot
on his head
1124
00:51:20,111 --> 00:51:22,012
before he headed out
onto stage.
1125
00:51:22,113 --> 00:51:24,849
When she told that story,
she just chuckled like crazy.
1126
00:51:32,857 --> 00:51:34,492
At the western end
of the continent,
1127
00:51:34,592 --> 00:51:36,727
rising majestically
above the Pacific,
1128
00:51:37,295 --> 00:51:39,330
is a city constantly alive,
1129
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:40,698
full of anticipation,
1130
00:51:40,798 --> 00:51:43,968
exciting and beautiful:
San Francisco.
1131
00:51:44,769 --> 00:51:47,638
Where no matter who you are
or where you come from
1132
00:51:47,738 --> 00:51:49,474
or what you like to do,
1133
00:51:50,107 --> 00:51:53,644
something exciting and
wonderful and different
1134
00:51:54,245 --> 00:51:56,281
happens to you
in San Francisco.
1135
00:52:02,787 --> 00:52:04,355
Have you seen
any of these shows?
1136
00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:07,192
- Yeah. They're really funny.
- Did you like it?
1137
00:52:07,292 --> 00:52:08,893
They were funny.
1138
00:52:08,993 --> 00:52:10,995
The funniest part
was watching people.
1139
00:52:11,095 --> 00:52:12,230
The women turn away.
1140
00:52:12,330 --> 00:52:13,898
They talk about recipes
and things
1141
00:52:13,998 --> 00:52:15,666
while their husbands
are looking up.
1142
00:52:15,766 --> 00:52:17,335
Did you know
that we have shows here
1143
00:52:17,435 --> 00:52:19,870
where people make love
live on the stage?
1144
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:22,540
- Uh, no, I didn't.
- Have you been to any of these?
1145
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,209
Not yet. We were just on our way
1146
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:26,244
to walk around
a couple of these places
1147
00:52:26,344 --> 00:52:28,579
- to see what it was like.
- What do you expect to see?
1148
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,348
Nudity.
1149
00:52:30,448 --> 00:52:33,218
It wasn't that
Bay Area residents were prudes.
1150
00:52:33,318 --> 00:52:35,186
By this time,
they were quite blase
1151
00:52:35,286 --> 00:52:37,555
about the topless dance clubs
in North Beach.
1152
00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:39,757
But when one club offered
as an attraction
1153
00:52:39,857 --> 00:52:42,993
an interracial love dance,
that was too much.
1154
00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:45,396
Gay 60's
was the name of the club
1155
00:52:45,496 --> 00:52:47,732
and they came to me
and they asked me
1156
00:52:47,832 --> 00:52:50,000
if I would do an interracial
love dance.
1157
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:51,536
And I said yes.
1158
00:52:51,636 --> 00:52:53,871
The interracial
couple was busted.
1159
00:52:53,971 --> 00:52:55,072
Is it true you engaged
1160
00:52:55,172 --> 00:52:56,374
in a sex act during the act?
1161
00:52:56,474 --> 00:52:57,708
What do you call a sex act?
1162
00:52:58,343 --> 00:53:00,578
They arrested me. So what?
I still did it.
1163
00:53:01,512 --> 00:53:03,448
I wanted to do the topless,
I did the topless.
1164
00:53:04,014 --> 00:53:06,217
"You're not supposed to go
with a Black man." I did.
1165
00:53:06,317 --> 00:53:07,952
You don't like it? I'm sorry.
1166
00:53:08,052 --> 00:53:09,186
It's my life.
1167
00:53:09,287 --> 00:53:11,222
I want to do it.
I'm gonna do it.
1168
00:53:11,322 --> 00:53:13,558
- ♪ Come on, everybody ♪
1169
00:53:13,658 --> 00:53:15,293
♪ Come and get some soul ♪
1170
00:53:15,393 --> 00:53:16,861
♪ Do the jerk ♪
1171
00:53:16,961 --> 00:53:18,095
♪ Do the jerk... ♪
1172
00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:19,430
My mother had a breakdown
1173
00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:21,332
when I married Jimi. Oh my God.
1174
00:53:21,799 --> 00:53:24,669
My dad, who is Mexican,
disowned me.
1175
00:53:26,871 --> 00:53:28,973
And in San Francisco,
when we first met,
1176
00:53:29,073 --> 00:53:30,541
we couldn't drive
down the street.
1177
00:53:30,641 --> 00:53:32,109
The cop would pull us over.
1178
00:53:32,677 --> 00:53:33,944
Bam-bam. Knock on the door.
1179
00:53:34,044 --> 00:53:35,946
About three policemen
at the door.
1180
00:53:36,481 --> 00:53:39,317
They saw Judy in the bed and,
boy, they didn't like that.
1181
00:53:39,417 --> 00:53:42,287
I was arrested
for vagrancy.
1182
00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:45,790
Vagrancy was a law that
if you didn't have a job,
1183
00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:46,957
you were a vagrant.
1184
00:53:47,057 --> 00:53:48,659
And they could arrest you.
1185
00:53:48,759 --> 00:53:50,961
They took her,
put her in jail.
1186
00:53:51,061 --> 00:53:52,062
It was a racist thing.
1187
00:53:52,162 --> 00:53:53,464
I stayed in a week or so.
1188
00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:55,232
- It was horrible.
- My heart was bleeding,
1189
00:53:55,333 --> 00:53:58,803
just thinking of her being
locked up in jail for nothing.
1190
00:53:59,437 --> 00:54:02,139
The bondsman says, "Jimi, don't
come into the court with her
1191
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,609
because the judge will throw
the books at her for sure."
1192
00:54:04,709 --> 00:54:08,012
So she went...
she went in.
1193
00:54:08,112 --> 00:54:09,647
And the judge
gave her a lashing.
1194
00:54:10,180 --> 00:54:12,082
And says, "You get outta town.
1195
00:54:12,182 --> 00:54:13,784
As long as that nigger's here,
1196
00:54:13,884 --> 00:54:15,853
you don't come back
into Santa Cruz."
1197
00:54:15,953 --> 00:54:18,623
Now, the judge is saying this.
Publicly.
1198
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:22,092
All of the clubs
were prejudiced
1199
00:54:22,192 --> 00:54:24,028
and didn't let
Black girls dance.
1200
00:54:24,962 --> 00:54:26,997
Not until the late '80s.
1201
00:54:27,097 --> 00:54:28,499
But not many.
1202
00:54:29,133 --> 00:54:32,837
* Well,
I guess I'll start walking... ♪
1203
00:54:33,871 --> 00:54:35,973
It was white and Black
when I was growing up.
1204
00:54:36,541 --> 00:54:39,043
If you liked Black music
and you were white,
1205
00:54:39,577 --> 00:54:42,413
then there were all kind of
names they'd be calling you.
1206
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,784
George & Teddy were the first
popular interracial band
1207
00:54:46,884 --> 00:54:48,218
in the area.
1208
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:50,455
♪ Hoppin' and poppin'
all night long ♪
1209
00:54:50,555 --> 00:54:51,856
They were great entertainers.
1210
00:54:51,956 --> 00:54:53,324
We had a great band.
1211
00:54:53,424 --> 00:54:55,192
And it could never rise above...
1212
00:54:55,793 --> 00:54:59,296
The highest gig was
the old Caesar's Palace.
1213
00:54:59,397 --> 00:55:00,865
And a thousand bucks a week.
1214
00:55:00,965 --> 00:55:04,469
Man, that's like
20 grand a week now. You know?
1215
00:55:04,569 --> 00:55:07,938
I turned it down and made
ten dollars a night with Sly.
1216
00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:12,242
I was the only funky white boy
around in San Francisco.
1217
00:55:12,343 --> 00:55:14,011
That's why Sly hired me.
1218
00:55:14,979 --> 00:55:16,246
Sly and the Family Stone
1219
00:55:16,347 --> 00:55:18,315
was the first interracial
pop group,
1220
00:55:18,416 --> 00:55:20,585
men and women
and different races,
1221
00:55:21,486 --> 00:55:22,987
that made it.
1222
00:55:24,589 --> 00:55:29,159
♪ Don't call me nigger,
whitey ♪
1223
00:55:29,259 --> 00:55:33,330
♪ Don't call me whitey,
nigger ♪
1224
00:55:33,431 --> 00:55:34,765
Those first road tours,
1225
00:55:34,865 --> 00:55:36,567
when we was driving
all over the country,
1226
00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,769
we got run outta towns.
1227
00:55:38,869 --> 00:55:40,405
We got chased out by police.
1228
00:55:41,105 --> 00:55:44,041
I was a white man
with long hair and a beard
1229
00:55:44,141 --> 00:55:45,610
in the Black band of people
1230
00:55:45,710 --> 00:55:48,446
that dressed weird,
looked weird,
1231
00:55:48,546 --> 00:55:50,781
and Sly also had
a white girlfriend.
1232
00:55:52,550 --> 00:55:54,151
That's a death sentence.
1233
00:55:55,052 --> 00:55:57,254
Now if we can get you
to spell "Love" one time...
1234
00:55:57,354 --> 00:56:00,758
...who are the kind of
unlikely igniters
1235
00:56:00,858 --> 00:56:02,627
of civil rights
1236
00:56:02,727 --> 00:56:04,695
and feminists and gay rights.
1237
00:56:04,795 --> 00:56:06,964
And I think Carol Doda
was one of them.
1238
00:56:07,898 --> 00:56:09,967
She changed our thinkings
1239
00:56:10,067 --> 00:56:12,970
about something as personal
and basic as nudity.
1240
00:56:13,504 --> 00:56:16,807
She was such a symbol
of progressiveness there
1241
00:56:16,907 --> 00:56:20,478
and what it was to be
a subversive San Franciscan.
1242
00:56:30,054 --> 00:56:31,656
Her work basically said,
1243
00:56:31,756 --> 00:56:35,926
"Showing my body is a form
of fundamental, basic freedom."
1244
00:56:36,627 --> 00:56:39,464
It was right in the thick
of the women's movement
1245
00:56:39,564 --> 00:56:41,632
and these women genuinely felt
1246
00:56:41,732 --> 00:56:43,468
that they were pioneers.
1247
00:56:43,568 --> 00:56:45,269
That, "Goddammit,
this is my body
1248
00:56:45,369 --> 00:56:46,904
and if I want to show my
breasts to the world,
1249
00:56:47,004 --> 00:56:49,139
I'm gonna do it." Boom.
1250
00:56:52,510 --> 00:56:55,145
In the new environment
of the future,
1251
00:56:55,580 --> 00:56:57,948
people will accept their bodies.
1252
00:56:58,048 --> 00:57:00,818
Clothes will be utilitarian,
1253
00:57:00,918 --> 00:57:03,087
organic, and minimal.
1254
00:57:03,187 --> 00:57:06,824
There will be no more
squeamishness about nudity.
1255
00:57:06,924 --> 00:57:10,394
The body itself
will be beautiful.
1256
00:57:11,529 --> 00:57:14,699
It was easy to get
jobs dancing on Broadway.
1257
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:17,535
I mean, basically all you
had to do was be young
1258
00:57:17,635 --> 00:57:19,303
and willing
to take off your top.
1259
00:57:20,571 --> 00:57:24,441
I moved to San Francisco
in 1967.
1260
00:57:25,209 --> 00:57:29,113
I met a couple of gals
who were dancing
1261
00:57:29,213 --> 00:57:31,549
in North Beach,
on Broadway Street.
1262
00:57:31,649 --> 00:57:34,652
They were young girls, my age.
We were in our early twenties.
1263
00:57:34,752 --> 00:57:37,221
And they were working
their way through college.
1264
00:57:37,321 --> 00:57:41,325
And one night, one of the girls
called me up and said, "Marsha,
1265
00:57:41,425 --> 00:57:43,828
one of our dancers didn't show.
Can you get over here?"
1266
00:57:43,928 --> 00:57:46,797
And I said, "Oh my God,
are you kidding? I'm very shy!"
1267
00:57:46,897 --> 00:57:49,700
"Oh, come on," they said,
"It's easy. It's no big deal.
1268
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,235
Nobody's gonna bother you.
1269
00:57:51,335 --> 00:57:53,203
It's fun because
we get to dance."
1270
00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:55,673
So I did it.
I can't believe I did it.
1271
00:57:57,775 --> 00:58:00,978
For me, and the little other
hippie girls doing it,
1272
00:58:01,078 --> 00:58:03,648
it was a very innocent thing.
1273
00:58:04,348 --> 00:58:09,654
♪ Follow your
own beaten path... ♪
1274
00:58:11,121 --> 00:58:12,590
Summer of Love.
1275
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:17,127
I had my share of fun.
And I tried all the drugs.
1276
00:58:17,928 --> 00:58:20,030
Everybody was
having sex with everybody.
1277
00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:21,666
So much fun.
1278
00:58:21,766 --> 00:58:23,934
We were all learning
different techniques
1279
00:58:24,034 --> 00:58:26,571
that we never
would have talked about before.
1280
00:58:26,671 --> 00:58:28,405
It was all taboo
1281
00:58:28,505 --> 00:58:29,940
until the '60s.
1282
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,842
That was a free time.
1283
00:58:31,942 --> 00:58:35,179
That was a hippie time.
Free love. Dope.
1284
00:58:35,279 --> 00:58:38,382
It was all going around
in a circle and we all loved it.
1285
00:58:41,151 --> 00:58:42,853
Summer of Love?
1286
00:58:42,953 --> 00:58:45,089
You can say thank you to Carol
Doda, and you're welcome.
1287
00:58:45,189 --> 00:58:48,392
'Cause she helped loosen up
our ideas about sexuality.
1288
00:58:48,492 --> 00:58:52,597
She was somebody that liberated
other women's minds.
1289
00:58:52,697 --> 00:58:55,633
Because the first time
I ever saw her,
1290
00:58:55,733 --> 00:58:57,968
there was a picture of her,
1291
00:58:58,068 --> 00:59:00,137
and I saw that as a child
1292
00:59:00,237 --> 00:59:03,373
when I was, you know,
maybe 13 or something.
1293
00:59:03,473 --> 00:59:07,745
And I don't know, it just made
an impression in my mind.
1294
00:59:07,845 --> 00:59:10,080
And it was like,
"Wow. How free."
1295
00:59:31,669 --> 00:59:33,738
Would you consider yourself
1296
00:59:33,838 --> 00:59:35,439
a pioneer in feminism?
1297
00:59:35,539 --> 00:59:38,308
I don't know if I
consider myself a pioneer.
1298
00:59:38,408 --> 00:59:39,977
You been attacked by feminists?
1299
00:59:40,077 --> 00:59:42,212
Oh yes, they did
picket outside of the club
1300
00:59:42,312 --> 00:59:43,981
when I was working there.
1301
00:59:44,081 --> 00:59:47,251
I said, "I guess I was one of
the original bra burners.
1302
00:59:47,351 --> 00:59:48,585
So what are we talking about?"
1303
00:59:48,686 --> 00:59:49,854
That's great.
1304
00:59:49,954 --> 00:59:52,657
Beauty pageants gotta go!
1305
00:59:52,757 --> 00:59:54,124
The women's
liberation movement
1306
00:59:54,224 --> 00:59:55,492
organized several groups
1307
00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:57,862
to protest
the Miss America pageant
1308
00:59:57,962 --> 01:00:00,297
as a symbol of society's
exploitation
1309
01:00:00,397 --> 01:00:02,466
of women as sex objects.
1310
01:00:04,101 --> 01:00:07,204
In 1968,
some feminists gathered
1311
01:00:07,304 --> 01:00:10,140
outside the Miss America
pageant
1312
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,676
in Atlantic City
1313
01:00:11,776 --> 01:00:14,344
and constructed
a Freedom Trash Can
1314
01:00:14,444 --> 01:00:16,981
into which
they would throw bras.
1315
01:00:17,081 --> 01:00:20,885
* Everybody's doing
a brand-new dance now ♪
1316
01:00:20,985 --> 01:00:24,288
♪ Come on, baby,
do the Locomotion ♪
1317
01:00:24,388 --> 01:00:28,458
♪ I know you'll get to like it
if you give it a chance now ♪
1318
01:00:28,558 --> 01:00:31,061
That trash can
was never actually put on fire.
1319
01:00:31,796 --> 01:00:33,831
The boardwalk in Atlantic City
is made out of wood
1320
01:00:33,931 --> 01:00:35,866
and the fire department
wouldn't let them.
1321
01:00:35,966 --> 01:00:39,069
So the bra burning's
a media myth
1322
01:00:39,169 --> 01:00:42,072
but it is definitely the case
that bras
1323
01:00:42,172 --> 01:00:45,275
were perceived
as shackles of patriarchy.
1324
01:00:46,811 --> 01:00:50,014
It was just one of those
freedoms we wanted to take.
1325
01:00:50,114 --> 01:00:51,648
It was an act of defiance.
1326
01:00:51,749 --> 01:00:54,318
We didn't have to wear a bra
if we didn't want to.
1327
01:00:54,418 --> 01:00:56,787
♪ Well, I think you've
got the knack ♪
1328
01:00:57,354 --> 01:00:59,990
♪ Whoa-whoa,
now that you can do it ♪
1329
01:01:00,090 --> 01:01:02,059
♪ Let's make a chain now... ♪
1330
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:03,928
We took
birth control the same way
1331
01:01:04,028 --> 01:01:05,730
and said we're gonna
have that too
1332
01:01:05,830 --> 01:01:07,431
and the right to talk
about sex.
1333
01:01:07,531 --> 01:01:09,834
So we had gained it
'cause we took it.
1334
01:01:09,934 --> 01:01:12,336
We were taking that freedom.
1335
01:01:12,436 --> 01:01:15,305
- ♪ Please say something sweet ♪
1336
01:01:19,176 --> 01:01:22,312
♪ Please say something sweet ♪
1337
01:01:22,947 --> 01:01:24,782
She seemed
to be like a sailor.
1338
01:01:24,882 --> 01:01:26,316
She had a lot of boyfriends.
1339
01:01:26,450 --> 01:01:28,685
She did not have
good luck with men.
1340
01:01:29,787 --> 01:01:33,991
She probably didn't trust
any man she'd ever been with,
1341
01:01:34,091 --> 01:01:36,727
thinking that they were
all there just for one thing.
1342
01:01:37,361 --> 01:01:38,863
Her fame.
1343
01:01:38,963 --> 01:01:40,630
Fame brings problems.
1344
01:01:40,731 --> 01:01:42,366
"When a man asks me out,"
she complains,
1345
01:01:42,466 --> 01:01:47,071
"I never know if he's
interested in me... or them."
1346
01:01:47,171 --> 01:01:49,907
I think that with
all the glitter and everything,
1347
01:01:50,007 --> 01:01:51,876
I think she was
basically lonely.
1348
01:01:53,878 --> 01:01:56,546
I can't even find
a steady boyfriend right now.
1349
01:01:57,147 --> 01:01:59,649
Because I think most men
have preconceived notions
1350
01:01:59,750 --> 01:02:03,053
and they can't handle
what I'm doing.
1351
01:02:03,153 --> 01:02:04,822
She used
to call me up all the time
1352
01:02:04,922 --> 01:02:06,791
and want advice on men.
1353
01:02:06,891 --> 01:02:08,793
Only young guys.
1354
01:02:08,893 --> 01:02:11,195
She wanted nothing to do
with anybody over 30.
1355
01:02:11,728 --> 01:02:14,799
She did rather like younger men.
1356
01:02:14,899 --> 01:02:16,801
Because I don't think
she wanted anybody
1357
01:02:16,901 --> 01:02:17,935
to tell her what to do
1358
01:02:18,035 --> 01:02:19,136
or to have a man
1359
01:02:19,236 --> 01:02:21,806
controlling her life at all.
1360
01:02:21,906 --> 01:02:23,640
Very free-spirited.
1361
01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:26,911
I started working in...
when I was underage, at 19.
1362
01:02:27,011 --> 01:02:31,015
I was checking IDs and became
a doorman at my uncle's club.
1363
01:02:31,115 --> 01:02:33,918
When I got inside and was
bartending, she'd come in
1364
01:02:34,018 --> 01:02:35,485
and say,
"Hi, Phil. How are ya?"
1365
01:02:35,585 --> 01:02:36,821
And she just
took a liking to me
1366
01:02:36,921 --> 01:02:38,823
and then we got kinda close.
1367
01:02:38,956 --> 01:02:41,525
"What are you doing tonight?"
"Oh, nothing." She's asking me.
1368
01:02:41,625 --> 01:02:43,928
I looked up to her
'cause she was famous.
1369
01:02:44,028 --> 01:02:45,295
You know, I was in awe.
1370
01:02:45,395 --> 01:02:47,231
What kid gets to do
this kinda thing?
1371
01:02:47,798 --> 01:02:51,435
When we started seeing each
other, I was about 19 or 20.
1372
01:02:51,535 --> 01:02:54,338
One of the first things she
said, "I want you to feel 'em."
1373
01:02:54,438 --> 01:02:56,340
I thought if I squeezed
hard enough,
1374
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,176
I might leave a thumbprint. Felt
like modeling clay. Was heavy.
1375
01:02:59,276 --> 01:03:00,978
It didn't feel natural.
1376
01:03:01,078 --> 01:03:04,114
If I touched too hard,
she didn't like that.
1377
01:03:04,214 --> 01:03:05,715
Not at all, 'cause it hurt.
1378
01:03:06,250 --> 01:03:08,385
But she did it for her career
and she had the career
1379
01:03:08,485 --> 01:03:10,020
and the fame from it.
1380
01:03:10,254 --> 01:03:12,322
It's time for
the hottest talk show in town.
1381
01:03:12,422 --> 01:03:13,958
Single in the City,
1382
01:03:14,058 --> 01:03:16,726
starring two of San Francisco's
most famous landmarks,
1383
01:03:16,827 --> 01:03:18,328
Miss Carol Doda.
1384
01:03:18,428 --> 01:03:19,796
Hi! This is Carol Doda,
1385
01:03:19,897 --> 01:03:21,398
and welcome to
Single in the City.
1386
01:03:21,498 --> 01:03:23,167
I don't know.
Where do you go to meet people?
1387
01:03:23,267 --> 01:03:25,735
I find it very hard for me
to go sit at a bar
1388
01:03:25,836 --> 01:03:27,537
and try to meet somebody.
1389
01:03:27,637 --> 01:03:30,074
You know, I get very...
embarrassed.
1390
01:03:30,174 --> 01:03:33,077
I feel like, "What the hell
am I doing here by myself?"
1391
01:03:33,177 --> 01:03:35,545
"Why am I not sitting
with Mr. Wonderful?"
1392
01:03:35,645 --> 01:03:37,915
Then I look around,
I don't see Mr. Wonderful.
1393
01:03:38,015 --> 01:03:39,816
Start thinking something's
wrong with you, right?
1394
01:03:39,917 --> 01:03:41,818
Gotta love yourself.
1395
01:03:41,919 --> 01:03:44,821
It is a great city
for self-development.
1396
01:03:44,922 --> 01:03:47,224
Yeah, but I'm
overdeveloped as it is.
1397
01:03:47,324 --> 01:03:48,558
If I get any more developed,
1398
01:03:48,658 --> 01:03:50,594
I won't be able
to stand up and walk.
1399
01:03:50,694 --> 01:03:53,730
I do remember it just
being a long-standing joke
1400
01:03:53,830 --> 01:03:56,233
that she's never
gonna find anybody.
1401
01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,502
"I'm gonna be single
for the rest of my life."
1402
01:03:58,602 --> 01:04:00,670
I think a relationship
with one person
1403
01:04:00,770 --> 01:04:02,606
can get better and better
and better and better.
1404
01:04:02,706 --> 01:04:05,009
Because that's what I want.
That's my ultimate goal.
1405
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:07,111
- You've never been married?
- No. Mm-mm.
1406
01:04:07,211 --> 01:04:08,845
Have you been engaged?
1407
01:04:08,946 --> 01:04:12,182
Have you any close,
personal loves in your life?
1408
01:04:12,282 --> 01:04:13,951
Oh, well,
I've had a lot of those.
1409
01:04:15,485 --> 01:04:17,287
She just wanted
somebody to love.
1410
01:04:17,387 --> 01:04:19,556
That's really
all she ever wanted,
1411
01:04:19,656 --> 01:04:20,925
was to be loved.
1412
01:04:21,225 --> 01:04:23,293
A lot of people wondered
about Carol being married.
1413
01:04:23,393 --> 01:04:24,561
There was rumors.
1414
01:04:24,661 --> 01:04:26,196
Nobody ever said anything.
1415
01:04:26,296 --> 01:04:27,898
Carol was married young.
1416
01:04:27,998 --> 01:04:30,800
I did not know the gentleman
that she married,
1417
01:04:30,901 --> 01:04:33,037
but I do know,
the stories I've heard,
1418
01:04:33,137 --> 01:04:37,241
it was not a good relationship.
It was abusive for her.
1419
01:04:37,341 --> 01:04:39,443
When that relationship ended,
1420
01:04:39,543 --> 01:04:42,046
she moved on to the city.
1421
01:04:42,146 --> 01:04:48,118
♪ Washed by the waves
to a sandy shore ♪
1422
01:04:50,820 --> 01:04:52,990
♪ Now she won't be happy ♪
1423
01:04:53,991 --> 01:04:57,794
♪ Anymore ♪
1424
01:04:58,929 --> 01:05:02,066
♪ Anymore ♪
1425
01:05:05,936 --> 01:05:07,604
In the cult
of the body beautiful,
1426
01:05:07,704 --> 01:05:09,239
California leads the way again.
1427
01:05:09,773 --> 01:05:13,643
What can top topless?
Bottomless, of course.
1428
01:05:13,743 --> 01:05:15,779
In 1969, she takes it all off
1429
01:05:15,879 --> 01:05:18,015
and she's the first
bottomless dancer of note.
1430
01:05:18,115 --> 01:05:20,584
She went nude.
I never went all the way nude.
1431
01:05:21,285 --> 01:05:24,521
♪ You can climb a mountain ♪
1432
01:05:24,621 --> 01:05:27,757
♪ You can swim the sea ♪
1433
01:05:27,857 --> 01:05:30,094
♪ You can jump into the fire ♪
1434
01:05:31,128 --> 01:05:33,263
♪ But you'll never be free... ♪
1435
01:05:33,363 --> 01:05:35,032
Bottomless was controversial
1436
01:05:35,132 --> 01:05:38,668
because it took away some of
the innocence of just topless.
1437
01:05:38,768 --> 01:05:41,005
But people wanted to see it.
You had to compete.
1438
01:05:41,105 --> 01:05:42,839
They went bottomless
1439
01:05:42,939 --> 01:05:45,309
and then San Francisco said,
"Can't do that."
1440
01:05:45,409 --> 01:05:48,678
"Gotta do shaved with merkins."
1441
01:05:48,778 --> 01:05:51,381
Which is, as my uncle calls it,
a beaver toupee.
1442
01:05:51,481 --> 01:05:53,350
This furry little G-string thing
1443
01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:56,686
and it looked like... you know,
like it was pubic hairs.
1444
01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:01,858
You may be looking
at the focal point
1445
01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:04,561
of one of the pressing legal
questions of our age.
1446
01:06:05,762 --> 01:06:09,499
What was at issue here
was a 1970 board rule
1447
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,568
prohibiting any sexual acts,
1448
01:06:11,668 --> 01:06:13,337
whether real or simulated,
1449
01:06:13,437 --> 01:06:15,639
the displaying
of the genital area,
1450
01:06:15,739 --> 01:06:18,475
body contact between
nude performers,
1451
01:06:18,575 --> 01:06:20,010
and nude performers
1452
01:06:20,110 --> 01:06:22,812
who were less than six feet
from the audience.
1453
01:06:22,912 --> 01:06:25,249
As far as "naked,"
"nude," and "bottomless,"
1454
01:06:25,349 --> 01:06:28,718
we are gonna fight those words
both outside and inside.
1455
01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:31,721
We are not going to cover up
or put G-strings
1456
01:06:31,821 --> 01:06:33,157
on our bottomless entertainers.
1457
01:06:33,257 --> 01:06:34,824
So your entertainers
are dancing nude tonight
1458
01:06:34,924 --> 01:06:36,493
in violation of this ruling?
1459
01:06:36,593 --> 01:06:38,528
- Yes, we are.
- What happens next?
1460
01:06:38,628 --> 01:06:40,764
And surrounded
by a bevy of performers,
1461
01:06:40,864 --> 01:06:42,432
including Carol Doda,
1462
01:06:42,532 --> 01:06:44,668
Belli expressed
shock and dismay.
1463
01:06:44,768 --> 01:06:47,271
Now you tell me
if it's fair in America
1464
01:06:47,371 --> 01:06:48,905
that the theater can do that,
1465
01:06:49,005 --> 01:06:50,907
legitimate and on
the silver screen,
1466
01:06:51,007 --> 01:06:53,677
and my gals can't do that
out in the North Beach.
1467
01:06:53,777 --> 01:06:55,912
I think that's the damnedest
kind of discrimination
1468
01:06:56,012 --> 01:06:57,781
I've ever heard of.
1469
01:06:57,881 --> 01:07:02,552
Now I defy anyone to go up and
see Hair or Curious
1470
01:07:02,652 --> 01:07:04,588
and say that there
is such a thing left
1471
01:07:04,688 --> 01:07:07,023
as obscenity or pornography.
1472
01:07:07,124 --> 01:07:09,126
We're not allowed
to show everything.
1473
01:07:09,226 --> 01:07:12,962
But like he said, these movies
and these plays are.
1474
01:07:13,063 --> 01:07:14,531
And it's funny,
after five years,
1475
01:07:14,631 --> 01:07:16,566
that they're getting
this moral kick again.
1476
01:07:16,666 --> 01:07:18,068
I don't understand.
1477
01:07:18,902 --> 01:07:20,370
Look, we've got nudity here.
1478
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:22,372
You can't all of a sudden say,
"We haven't got it."
1479
01:07:22,472 --> 01:07:25,242
You know, like the mayor's
office or Dianne Feinstein
1480
01:07:25,342 --> 01:07:27,744
or the supervisor. They're
trying to ignore this street.
1481
01:07:27,844 --> 01:07:29,746
The Chamber of Commerce
ignores us
1482
01:07:29,846 --> 01:07:32,382
with all the convention bureaus
that come in here.
1483
01:07:32,482 --> 01:07:35,752
They ignore us,
when it was our publicity
1484
01:07:35,852 --> 01:07:40,257
that has set San Francisco up
as a major tourist town.
1485
01:07:41,057 --> 01:07:45,095
I have been publicized
throughout the years as nude
1486
01:07:45,195 --> 01:07:47,331
and if they can't
see any of this,
1487
01:07:47,431 --> 01:07:48,932
they're gonna be very unhappy
1488
01:07:49,032 --> 01:07:51,335
and they're not gonna
want to come to San Francisco.
1489
01:07:51,435 --> 01:07:52,769
The star witness,
1490
01:07:52,869 --> 01:07:54,804
eminently qualified
in her field,
1491
01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:57,607
San Francisco's Carol Doda
came to testify
1492
01:07:57,707 --> 01:08:00,844
in Sacramento's famous
topless/bottomless trial
1493
01:08:00,944 --> 01:08:02,346
on behalf of the defense
1494
01:08:02,446 --> 01:08:05,449
to demonstrate for a ten-man,
two-woman jury
1495
01:08:05,549 --> 01:08:08,452
her version of prevailing
community moral standards
1496
01:08:08,552 --> 01:08:10,187
in nightclub entertainment.
1497
01:08:10,287 --> 01:08:13,123
Your show perhaps illustrates
standards in San Francisco.
1498
01:08:13,223 --> 01:08:15,125
How do you think that applies
to Sacramento?
1499
01:08:15,225 --> 01:08:17,161
Well, they're only
80 miles apart.
1500
01:08:17,261 --> 01:08:18,928
It couldn't be
that much different.
1501
01:08:19,028 --> 01:08:21,131
Today, the Supreme
Court of the United States
1502
01:08:21,231 --> 01:08:23,333
may have dealt them
a mortal blow.
1503
01:08:23,433 --> 01:08:25,935
In a 6-3 decision,
the court ruled
1504
01:08:26,035 --> 01:08:28,037
that under the 21st Amendment,
1505
01:08:28,138 --> 01:08:29,939
which repealed Prohibition,
1506
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:33,177
the California Alcoholic
Beverage Control Board
1507
01:08:33,277 --> 01:08:36,213
has the right to regulate
the type of entertainment
1508
01:08:36,313 --> 01:08:38,448
offered by any establishment
1509
01:08:38,548 --> 01:08:40,650
which is licensed
to sell drinks.
1510
01:08:40,750 --> 01:08:42,219
It would seem then
1511
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:44,821
that if you want to watch
naked lady wrestlers,
1512
01:08:44,921 --> 01:08:47,824
seductive nude stewardesses,
or college coeds,
1513
01:08:47,924 --> 01:08:50,194
or whatever your pleasure
in the future,
1514
01:08:50,294 --> 01:08:51,695
then you're gonna have to do it
1515
01:08:51,795 --> 01:08:53,697
while either eating candy bars
and popcorn
1516
01:08:53,797 --> 01:08:56,766
or drinking milk, orange juice,
or soda pop.
1517
01:08:57,934 --> 01:08:59,303
And so, bottomless was dead.
1518
01:09:03,173 --> 01:09:07,911
The stigma attached
to erotic work
1519
01:09:08,011 --> 01:09:11,381
is a problem
for women's liberation
1520
01:09:11,481 --> 01:09:14,117
and equality.
1521
01:09:14,218 --> 01:09:17,153
Collective empowerment
comes through
1522
01:09:17,254 --> 01:09:20,490
changes in policy,
changes in laws,
1523
01:09:20,590 --> 01:09:22,892
general changes in the culture.
1524
01:09:22,992 --> 01:09:28,398
And those things are hard-won
and take a long time.
1525
01:09:28,498 --> 01:09:30,500
Carol Doda
was a fighter
1526
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,536
and she didn't want hypocrisy
1527
01:09:32,636 --> 01:09:34,838
about whether women
were being exploited
1528
01:09:34,938 --> 01:09:37,607
in bottomless clubs,
topless clubs,
1529
01:09:37,707 --> 01:09:43,046
to mask the equally deep issue
of worker exploitation.
1530
01:09:45,282 --> 01:09:48,218
♪ I hate to say it
but I told you so ♪
1531
01:09:49,118 --> 01:09:52,155
♪ Don't mind my
preaching to you ♪
1532
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:56,059
♪ I said, don't trust him, baby
Now you know ♪
1533
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,929
♪ You don't learn everything
There is to know at school... ♪
1534
01:10:00,397 --> 01:10:04,133
She sometimes would do
12 performances a day.
1535
01:10:04,234 --> 01:10:05,802
You work here at the Condor.
1536
01:10:05,902 --> 01:10:07,804
Steady.
Seven days a week.
1537
01:10:07,904 --> 01:10:09,105
For each show you...
1538
01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:10,607
Dress, undress.
1539
01:10:10,707 --> 01:10:12,909
You know, there's no diversion.
1540
01:10:13,677 --> 01:10:15,412
Her other disputes
with the Condor
1541
01:10:15,512 --> 01:10:17,247
were literally about money.
1542
01:10:17,347 --> 01:10:20,049
And that was about being an
actual person, not a symbol,
1543
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:23,387
and being a woman,
and the wage gap.
1544
01:10:23,487 --> 01:10:24,754
At a certain point,
1545
01:10:24,854 --> 01:10:28,592
she had a year-to-year contract
1546
01:10:28,692 --> 01:10:30,327
and she wasn't happy about it.
1547
01:10:30,427 --> 01:10:32,562
Would always
naturally ask for more money
1548
01:10:32,662 --> 01:10:34,298
and we'd have to negotiate.
1549
01:10:34,398 --> 01:10:36,466
And we paid her
pretty fairly well.
1550
01:10:36,566 --> 01:10:38,968
You know?
But she was never happy
1551
01:10:39,068 --> 01:10:41,271
because they figured
the club owners
1552
01:10:41,371 --> 01:10:42,939
were making all the money.
1553
01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:44,508
Well, we own the club, you know?
1554
01:10:44,608 --> 01:10:48,678
I think at one point she wanted
to buy in to the Condor
1555
01:10:48,778 --> 01:10:50,814
when she got really successful.
1556
01:10:50,914 --> 01:10:52,516
But I don't know what happened
with that.
1557
01:10:52,616 --> 01:10:54,851
Naturally, we turned her down.
1558
01:10:54,951 --> 01:10:57,454
We aren't gonna give her
any percentage of the place.
1559
01:10:57,554 --> 01:10:58,922
We own the place.
1560
01:11:05,061 --> 01:11:07,130
When she had left the Condor,
1561
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:11,901
Voss started managing her and
Voss owned the Off-Broadway.
1562
01:11:12,001 --> 01:11:14,003
Him and Gino got together
1563
01:11:14,103 --> 01:11:16,205
because Gino wasn't part
of the Condor anymore.
1564
01:11:16,306 --> 01:11:17,841
They opened
a club down the street
1565
01:11:17,941 --> 01:11:19,843
called Carol Doda's.
1566
01:11:19,943 --> 01:11:21,811
That's what they
called it so they could make
1567
01:11:21,911 --> 01:11:24,381
as much money as they could
off her name and image.
1568
01:11:24,781 --> 01:11:26,350
We weren't worried
1569
01:11:26,450 --> 01:11:28,452
because we just hired
other go-go girls
1570
01:11:28,552 --> 01:11:29,853
and we still made money.
1571
01:11:29,953 --> 01:11:32,255
Maybe not as much,
but we still made money.
1572
01:11:33,156 --> 01:11:34,691
And today, a press preview
1573
01:11:34,791 --> 01:11:37,527
of a talented young lady
named Carol Doda.
1574
01:11:37,627 --> 01:11:39,863
Her new revue seems
to fly in the face
1575
01:11:39,963 --> 01:11:41,164
of the current trends
1576
01:11:41,264 --> 01:11:43,266
for pornography and skin.
1577
01:11:43,367 --> 01:11:45,802
A revue that presents
lavish costumes,
1578
01:11:45,902 --> 01:11:48,237
a Las Vegas-type choreography,
1579
01:11:48,338 --> 01:11:50,374
and even political satire.
1580
01:11:50,474 --> 01:11:52,342
Carol says
she thinks it'll work.
1581
01:11:52,442 --> 01:11:55,078
They're gonna go and see
these little movie houses
1582
01:11:55,178 --> 01:11:58,014
but then they'll say,
"Okay, we saw it. What's next?"
1583
01:11:58,114 --> 01:11:59,716
Now they're ready
for entertainment.
1584
01:11:59,816 --> 01:12:01,885
Do you sort of
long for those simple,
1585
01:12:01,985 --> 01:12:03,553
straightforward days?
1586
01:12:03,653 --> 01:12:06,656
You mean the topless days,
going up and down on a piano?
1587
01:12:07,090 --> 01:12:09,325
Those simple, straightforward
days are exactly that.
1588
01:12:09,426 --> 01:12:10,694
Simple and straightforward.
1589
01:12:10,794 --> 01:12:12,396
You cannot stay at the same...
1590
01:12:12,496 --> 01:12:14,398
On anything. I don't care
what you're doing,
1591
01:12:14,498 --> 01:12:15,865
politics, religion, anything,
1592
01:12:15,965 --> 01:12:17,867
you cannot stay
on the same level.
1593
01:12:17,967 --> 01:12:19,135
You always have to graduate.
1594
01:12:19,836 --> 01:12:21,605
They rigged a pretty nice
little show for her,
1595
01:12:21,705 --> 01:12:22,939
but it didn't work.
1596
01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:25,074
It was only there
for less than a year.
1597
01:12:25,174 --> 01:12:26,776
It went broke.
1598
01:12:27,310 --> 01:12:29,713
She was nothing
without the Condor.
1599
01:12:29,813 --> 01:12:32,015
And we knew that.
She didn't know that.
1600
01:12:32,115 --> 01:12:34,083
Would you go back
to the Condor?
1601
01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:35,885
They still have your name
up there in lights.
1602
01:12:35,985 --> 01:12:37,286
No, I'm not
planning on it.
1603
01:12:37,987 --> 01:12:39,756
The queen of topless,
Carol Doda,
1604
01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:42,058
decided to
put her clothes back on
1605
01:12:42,158 --> 01:12:45,261
and make her debut as
a dramatic actress and singer.
1606
01:12:46,362 --> 01:12:49,866
♪ So the Bible said ♪
1607
01:12:49,966 --> 01:12:54,538
♪ And it still is news ♪
1608
01:12:54,638 --> 01:12:56,105
The critics,
everybody's who's seen it,
1609
01:12:56,205 --> 01:12:58,374
know that we have an excellent
show. Marvelous show.
1610
01:12:58,475 --> 01:13:00,810
It's Carol's dramatic debut
1611
01:13:00,910 --> 01:13:02,812
and she surprises
everybody in it.
1612
01:13:02,912 --> 01:13:05,281
But the newspaper strikes,
uh, may kill us.
1613
01:13:05,381 --> 01:13:07,584
When almost nobody
came to see her show,
1614
01:13:07,684 --> 01:13:09,586
Miss Doda blamed
the newspaper strike.
1615
01:13:09,686 --> 01:13:11,320
She went to Los Angeles.
1616
01:13:11,888 --> 01:13:14,658
Los Angeles had a ton
of burlesque shows,
1617
01:13:14,758 --> 01:13:17,727
so strippers were
all over the place.
1618
01:13:18,361 --> 01:13:20,764
And then she went to Vegas,
and, oh, Vegas.
1619
01:13:23,099 --> 01:13:24,501
Vegas wasn't her thing.
1620
01:13:24,601 --> 01:13:28,137
There was too many beautiful,
tall, talented,
1621
01:13:28,237 --> 01:13:29,573
gorgeous women in Vegas.
1622
01:13:29,673 --> 01:13:32,308
So she was just another girl.
1623
01:13:36,245 --> 01:13:38,782
Then she'd come back and then
we'd give her her job back.
1624
01:13:40,517 --> 01:13:41,851
I love you!
1625
01:13:46,055 --> 01:13:48,091
Hi, darlin'.
How ya doin', darlin'?
1626
01:13:50,193 --> 01:13:51,628
Showtime! Break it up!
1627
01:14:02,438 --> 01:14:03,807
Are you happy with it?
1628
01:14:03,907 --> 01:14:06,275
And what have been
the side effects of it?
1629
01:14:06,375 --> 01:14:07,777
Oh, um...
1630
01:14:07,877 --> 01:14:09,513
Yes, I'm happy with it.
1631
01:14:09,613 --> 01:14:12,716
I mean, it would be awful to be
unhappy with it at this point.
1632
01:14:12,816 --> 01:14:15,284
- What was the other question?
I'm just...
1633
01:14:15,384 --> 01:14:16,786
Have you ever
had any complications?
1634
01:14:16,886 --> 01:14:18,287
Oh, complications.
1635
01:14:18,387 --> 01:14:21,290
Uh, not real complications.
The only thing is...
1636
01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:23,993
is that silicone
does harden a little bit.
1637
01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:26,896
Women first started
getting injections of silicone
1638
01:14:26,996 --> 01:14:28,131
in their breasts
1639
01:14:28,231 --> 01:14:30,634
probably right after
World War II,
1640
01:14:30,734 --> 01:14:34,604
where there were big vats
of industrial-grade silicone
1641
01:14:34,704 --> 01:14:38,675
hanging out on
the Yokohama Harbor in Japan.
1642
01:14:38,775 --> 01:14:41,377
And Japanese prostitutes
started injecting the stuff
1643
01:14:41,477 --> 01:14:42,712
into their breasts
1644
01:14:42,812 --> 01:14:45,381
as a way to attract male
service members
1645
01:14:45,481 --> 01:14:47,083
from the United States.
1646
01:14:47,183 --> 01:14:49,819
They actually exported
that practice
1647
01:14:49,919 --> 01:14:52,188
to other parts of the world,
including the United States.
1648
01:14:52,288 --> 01:14:56,359
Well, I'll tell you. I'm from
Japan and I'm half Japanese.
1649
01:14:57,126 --> 01:14:58,394
From here to here.
1650
01:14:59,295 --> 01:15:01,397
Made in Japan.
1651
01:15:01,497 --> 01:15:03,099
Does it collapse at all?
1652
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:05,001
Nope, still there.
1653
01:15:05,101 --> 01:15:06,435
They have not collapsed
1654
01:15:06,536 --> 01:15:08,371
and you haven't
had to have more injections?
1655
01:15:08,471 --> 01:15:10,039
They don't look collapsed to me.
1656
01:15:10,139 --> 01:15:11,307
No, I haven't.
1657
01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:15,444
So I didn't know
silicone collapsed.
1658
01:15:15,545 --> 01:15:17,881
I thought the inflatables do.
Don't they?
1659
01:15:17,981 --> 01:15:19,015
They don't?
1660
01:15:19,115 --> 01:15:20,550
Yes, they can.
1661
01:15:20,650 --> 01:15:21,951
You could see
what was happening.
1662
01:15:22,051 --> 01:15:23,419
She had to keep getting
the injections
1663
01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,055
just to keep looking normal, balanced.
1664
01:15:26,155 --> 01:15:28,124
You had it to do all over,
would you...
1665
01:15:28,224 --> 01:15:29,693
Well, I don't see why...
1666
01:15:29,793 --> 01:15:31,895
You can't cry over
spilt silicone.
1667
01:15:34,297 --> 01:15:36,332
Hm. Okay.
1668
01:15:38,568 --> 01:15:41,304
What kinds of problems
have you seen?
1669
01:15:41,404 --> 01:15:44,507
We have had women with
marked skin discoloration,
1670
01:15:44,608 --> 01:15:47,210
anywhere from bright red
to actually black
1671
01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:49,879
with some of the oil exuding
through their skin.
1672
01:15:50,313 --> 01:15:53,149
We've had... Most of the women
have lumps,
1673
01:15:53,249 --> 01:15:54,951
many of which are very,
very painful.
1674
01:15:55,051 --> 01:15:57,687
Their breasts become
hard and rock-like.
1675
01:15:58,254 --> 01:16:01,457
And, uh, cancer detection
is impossible
1676
01:16:01,557 --> 01:16:02,926
on an early basis.
1677
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:06,630
Carol could've
never made it without silicone.
1678
01:16:06,730 --> 01:16:10,133
I wouldn't have been a big act
if I hadn't had silicone.
1679
01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:12,602
That was my life.
That was my money.
1680
01:16:12,702 --> 01:16:14,904
I wanted it, so I was willing
to take the chance.
1681
01:16:15,004 --> 01:16:16,239
I figured, "What the heck?
1682
01:16:16,339 --> 01:16:18,174
If they go bad,
just cut 'em off."
1683
01:16:19,776 --> 01:16:21,678
You can live without your boobs.
1684
01:16:23,412 --> 01:16:25,915
But luckily, I didn't have
any trouble with them.
1685
01:16:26,349 --> 01:16:28,551
Until I had a child
1686
01:16:29,018 --> 01:16:31,287
and I wanted to nurse my child.
1687
01:16:31,721 --> 01:16:33,422
So the milk came in
1688
01:16:34,123 --> 01:16:37,761
and we had to put a sheet
around me to hold my breasts,
1689
01:16:37,861 --> 01:16:39,095
they were so huge.
1690
01:16:39,963 --> 01:16:42,531
And the milk in my breast
1691
01:16:42,632 --> 01:16:45,501
cut the circulation off
1692
01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:47,671
and my breast turned black
and I got gangrene.
1693
01:16:48,304 --> 01:16:51,440
I had to have five surgeries
to take it out.
1694
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:54,110
I have no breasts.
1695
01:16:56,312 --> 01:16:58,682
To be 30 years old and used
to being a sex symbol
1696
01:16:58,782 --> 01:17:00,049
and lose your breast?
1697
01:17:02,051 --> 01:17:05,121
I coulda died if I hadn't have
discovered it.
1698
01:17:06,756 --> 01:17:08,858
The FDA banned the practice
1699
01:17:08,958 --> 01:17:10,860
because industrial-grade
silicone
1700
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,230
was creating all sorts of health
problems in women.
1701
01:17:14,764 --> 01:17:17,901
By the mid 1970s,
silicone implants,
1702
01:17:18,001 --> 01:17:19,836
which was basically
taking the silicone
1703
01:17:19,936 --> 01:17:23,306
and encasing it in sort of
a baggy, a silicone baggy.
1704
01:17:23,406 --> 01:17:25,641
And at that point,
the implant business
1705
01:17:25,742 --> 01:17:27,944
really took over
from the injections.
1706
01:17:28,511 --> 01:17:31,514
A lot of women started to
report health problems
1707
01:17:31,614 --> 01:17:34,083
associated with their implants.
1708
01:17:34,183 --> 01:17:35,418
And they actually joined
1709
01:17:35,518 --> 01:17:38,154
the largest class-action
lawsuit ever
1710
01:17:38,254 --> 01:17:39,856
against a consumer product,
1711
01:17:39,956 --> 01:17:41,991
and that was against Dow Corning
1712
01:17:42,091 --> 01:17:44,493
and manufacturers
of breast implants.
1713
01:17:45,194 --> 01:17:47,530
It became the largest
class-action settlement
1714
01:17:47,630 --> 01:17:49,298
in history at that time.
1715
01:17:50,266 --> 01:17:53,136
And Dow Corning actually
was driven into bankruptcy.
1716
01:17:57,140 --> 01:17:58,674
Carol was asking herself,
1717
01:17:58,775 --> 01:18:00,009
"Why am I going through this?"
1718
01:18:01,845 --> 01:18:04,881
"I need to get more for
sacrificing myself for this."
1719
01:18:07,817 --> 01:18:10,286
Show business
is very, very hard.
1720
01:18:10,386 --> 01:18:11,587
Not only topless,
1721
01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:13,589
but say at the level
of Lena Horne.
1722
01:18:13,689 --> 01:18:16,025
She told me that you need
a cast iron belly
1723
01:18:16,125 --> 01:18:17,693
and being a woman,
she doesn't like...
1724
01:18:17,794 --> 01:18:20,830
You need a cast iron
heart to go along with it.
1725
01:18:23,232 --> 01:18:25,902
She did mention to me
several times that,
1726
01:18:26,002 --> 01:18:29,572
"Yeah, this thing... I wonder
if I made the right choice."
1727
01:18:29,672 --> 01:18:32,108
They always say people
in show business are crazy
1728
01:18:32,208 --> 01:18:35,178
or they're... they are freaky
or they're...
1729
01:18:35,278 --> 01:18:36,645
they do everything.
1730
01:18:37,246 --> 01:18:39,615
Well, I'm pretty basic
and very simple.
1731
01:18:39,715 --> 01:18:40,984
If...
1732
01:18:41,084 --> 01:18:43,386
I'm probably the only one I know
that, uh...
1733
01:18:44,153 --> 01:18:47,490
is all-American girl
likes all-American guy,
1734
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:49,492
and probably the one next door.
1735
01:18:49,592 --> 01:18:50,960
How about a home and a family?
1736
01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:53,329
Did you ever think of
settling down someday
1737
01:18:53,429 --> 01:18:55,131
and raising children?
1738
01:18:55,231 --> 01:18:56,565
No. I, uh...
1739
01:18:56,665 --> 01:18:58,802
I really am not... a mother.
1740
01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:01,938
I know what I am.
I know I'm an entertainer.
1741
01:19:02,538 --> 01:19:04,941
I think... I wouldn't
bet my life on it,
1742
01:19:05,041 --> 01:19:07,576
I think that she had a kid.
1743
01:19:07,676 --> 01:19:09,278
She had a child, I heard.
1744
01:19:09,378 --> 01:19:11,447
One... One or two.
1745
01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:14,117
She had two children.
A son and daughter.
1746
01:19:14,951 --> 01:19:16,352
I'll be damned.
1747
01:19:16,452 --> 01:19:18,822
Never talked about that, ever.
1748
01:19:18,922 --> 01:19:20,957
That was like a secret.
1749
01:19:21,557 --> 01:19:23,626
I don't know who the father was.
I don't know...
1750
01:19:23,726 --> 01:19:25,194
I don't know if she was married.
1751
01:19:25,294 --> 01:19:29,365
You know, we never really talked
about our personal lives
1752
01:19:29,465 --> 01:19:30,599
in North Beach.
1753
01:19:31,835 --> 01:19:33,970
We talked about
our professional lives.
1754
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:36,672
Your act and your hair
and your makeup
1755
01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:38,341
and people on the street.
1756
01:19:38,942 --> 01:19:41,677
I never talked about my kids.
Nobody knew I had kids.
1757
01:19:42,311 --> 01:19:45,314
I never knew Carol had kids.
She never mentioned...
1758
01:19:45,414 --> 01:19:47,350
Ever mentioned it.
1759
01:19:48,117 --> 01:19:52,055
Well, Carol's divorce
was not a good divorce.
1760
01:19:52,155 --> 01:19:54,690
I believe she lost custody
of her children.
1761
01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:58,061
And that's part of what shaped
1762
01:19:58,161 --> 01:20:02,298
her protective layers
and walls that she built up.
1763
01:20:03,967 --> 01:20:07,837
Somebody said I should, uh,
write a book about
1764
01:20:07,937 --> 01:20:09,705
Broadway or my life.
1765
01:20:09,805 --> 01:20:13,242
I said, "My God, I don't want
to start crying," you know?
1766
01:20:13,676 --> 01:20:15,879
- Forget it.
- Is Broadway sad?
1767
01:20:15,979 --> 01:20:18,714
No, I'm talking about my life.
1768
01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:22,886
Everybody asks me, "Where is
Broadway going?" every year.
1769
01:20:22,986 --> 01:20:24,720
I've had people say,
"Oh my God,
1770
01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:26,255
it isn't like it used to be."
1771
01:20:26,355 --> 01:20:29,158
But one second away
is not like it used to be.
1772
01:20:29,258 --> 01:20:30,559
And if you live like that,
1773
01:20:30,659 --> 01:20:32,561
then you will be living
in the past.
1774
01:20:32,661 --> 01:20:35,098
And I just don't... You know,
I don't relate like that.
1775
01:20:35,198 --> 01:20:36,432
Is it a boulevard
of broken dreams?
1776
01:20:36,532 --> 01:20:37,766
You think people
who work on Broadway
1777
01:20:37,867 --> 01:20:39,402
have fairly normal lives?
1778
01:20:39,502 --> 01:20:41,337
Like if they were a stockbroker
working on Montgomery?
1779
01:20:41,437 --> 01:20:42,906
No way, Jose.
1780
01:20:51,214 --> 01:20:54,250
Every place had
a barker out there going,
1781
01:20:54,350 --> 01:20:57,453
"Naked! Naked! Naked!
See the naked girls!
1782
01:20:57,553 --> 01:20:58,888
Two-drink minimum."
1783
01:20:58,988 --> 01:21:01,590
The hottest show on Broadway,
right here!
1784
01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:04,693
"Man-woman sex act
right on stage!"
1785
01:21:04,793 --> 01:21:06,695
Come on, take a peek.
No cover charge.
1786
01:21:06,795 --> 01:21:08,431
I might get a heart attack,
I'm afraid.
1787
01:21:08,531 --> 01:21:09,765
Come on. No, you won't.
1788
01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:11,700
You'll get a hard-on.
Check it out.
1789
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,302
I was a barker.
1790
01:21:13,402 --> 01:21:15,571
Didn't know how to do it.
I just watched my uncle.
1791
01:21:15,671 --> 01:21:17,573
"Two teachers, a housewife,
and secretary
1792
01:21:17,673 --> 01:21:19,108
in our amateur topless contest!"
1793
01:21:19,208 --> 01:21:21,644
Young ladies here for more than
one million dollars.
1794
01:21:21,744 --> 01:21:22,979
That's a lot of money, man.
1795
01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:24,447
You gotta have a perfect body.
1796
01:21:24,547 --> 01:21:27,216
Supernatural sex for sale!
1797
01:21:27,316 --> 01:21:28,584
Who bit that apple?
1798
01:21:28,684 --> 01:21:31,087
Nothing but Eve, that's what.
Come in.
1799
01:21:31,187 --> 01:21:34,157
Excuse me, gentlemen.
Right here it is...
1800
01:21:36,425 --> 01:21:37,726
Step right up.
1801
01:21:38,327 --> 01:21:39,996
When you've got
a five-piece band
1802
01:21:40,096 --> 01:21:42,598
and a topless dancer,
and go-go girls,
1803
01:21:42,698 --> 01:21:44,133
that's a lot of people
you gotta pay.
1804
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:47,170
You gotta be charging big bucks
for drinks.
1805
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:49,305
You gotta have full houses
every night.
1806
01:21:49,905 --> 01:21:51,240
When I left, I said,
1807
01:21:51,340 --> 01:21:53,076
"This isn't gonna last long."
1808
01:21:53,176 --> 01:21:54,677
The crowd began to diminish.
1809
01:21:55,411 --> 01:21:56,745
So the action was dead.
1810
01:21:56,845 --> 01:21:58,147
First thing they did
1811
01:21:58,247 --> 01:22:00,249
was fire the live
entertainment.
1812
01:22:00,349 --> 01:22:03,686
They went from band
to canned music.
1813
01:22:03,786 --> 01:22:06,455
All the clubs would do that
because it was a money thing.
1814
01:22:06,555 --> 01:22:10,126
Back in the 1960s,
as many as 15 topless clubs
1815
01:22:10,226 --> 01:22:12,161
blossomed here
on the Broadway strip.
1816
01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:13,796
But in recent years, business,
1817
01:22:13,896 --> 01:22:15,798
and a few other things,
have sagged.
1818
01:22:15,898 --> 01:22:19,602
When it was on the downslide,
the customers were different.
1819
01:22:19,702 --> 01:22:21,270
Before, it was couples.
1820
01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:24,840
And it just ended up
with these guys in overcoats.
1821
01:22:26,609 --> 01:22:28,978
We didn't know it at the time.
We're living through it.
1822
01:22:29,078 --> 01:22:31,280
We couldn't see it
for what it was worth.
1823
01:22:31,380 --> 01:22:33,882
It was big before,
but it was not big now,
1824
01:22:33,983 --> 01:22:35,851
and it's gonna get worse.
1825
01:22:38,487 --> 01:22:39,722
They started getting girls
1826
01:22:39,822 --> 01:22:41,457
that weren't too good.
1827
01:22:41,557 --> 01:22:42,858
They'd just come in
off the street.
1828
01:22:42,958 --> 01:22:43,892
Didn't have gimmicks.
1829
01:22:43,993 --> 01:22:45,228
Didn't have pretty costumes.
1830
01:22:49,232 --> 01:22:51,667
♪ Needy song
on Sleazy Street... ♪
1831
01:22:51,767 --> 01:22:54,003
It got out
of the artistic
1832
01:22:54,103 --> 01:22:57,073
and got into the sleazy part,
you know?
1833
01:22:57,173 --> 01:22:59,642
Right about the time
the porn biz came in
1834
01:22:59,742 --> 01:23:04,313
and the dancers realized
they could make $2,000 more
1835
01:23:04,413 --> 01:23:06,882
crossing the line
than they can dancing.
1836
01:23:07,583 --> 01:23:09,552
They had a hard time getting
young, attractive women,
1837
01:23:09,652 --> 01:23:11,220
so they were coming up
from the Tenderloin.
1838
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,522
These looked like hard chicks.
1839
01:23:13,622 --> 01:23:16,992
Much more readily tell you
to fuck off.
1840
01:23:17,093 --> 01:23:18,694
Hard drugs started
to come on the scene.
1841
01:23:18,794 --> 01:23:21,164
Mostly speed and downers.
1842
01:23:21,264 --> 01:23:23,699
It got dark because of that.
1843
01:23:38,047 --> 01:23:41,217
Nude encounter parlour,
they were called.
1844
01:23:41,317 --> 01:23:44,887
We put up little partitions
to make private rooms.
1845
01:23:44,987 --> 01:23:47,423
And the girl would even
tell the guy,
1846
01:23:47,523 --> 01:23:50,126
"Yeah, you can take
your clothes off if you want.
1847
01:23:50,226 --> 01:23:51,394
Do anything you want.
1848
01:23:51,494 --> 01:23:52,995
But no touching."
1849
01:23:53,562 --> 01:23:56,932
I think we charged at that time
$50 an hour.
1850
01:23:57,032 --> 01:24:01,070
You wanna go to the back room,
it's $150 an hour.
1851
01:24:01,170 --> 01:24:03,038
So guys thought if they go
to the back room,
1852
01:24:03,139 --> 01:24:05,241
they were gonna get sex now.
1853
01:24:05,341 --> 01:24:07,210
All that happened
in the back room
1854
01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:09,445
is she'd bring another girl
in with her
1855
01:24:09,545 --> 01:24:11,114
so two girls would be in.
1856
01:24:11,214 --> 01:24:13,048
We were, you know, conning 'em.
1857
01:24:14,083 --> 01:24:16,419
They were rippin'
people off and all that.
1858
01:24:16,519 --> 01:24:18,221
We didn't do any of that.
1859
01:24:18,321 --> 01:24:20,156
Tenderloin was known for that.
1860
01:24:20,256 --> 01:24:22,991
They ended up starting to buy up
all the clubs.
1861
01:24:23,092 --> 01:24:25,294
We wanted
to get on Broadway
1862
01:24:25,394 --> 01:24:27,996
because that's where the
tourists were, the business.
1863
01:24:28,097 --> 01:24:30,433
It was hard to lure 'em
down the street.
1864
01:24:30,533 --> 01:24:34,503
The reputation
of the Tenderloin, very rough.
1865
01:24:34,603 --> 01:24:36,805
All those guys packed iron.
1866
01:24:36,905 --> 01:24:38,907
We got Big Al's,
1867
01:24:39,007 --> 01:24:42,145
and Big Al's we turned into
a nude encounter parlour.
1868
01:24:42,878 --> 01:24:45,181
I did work
at Big Al's one night.
1869
01:24:45,281 --> 01:24:47,283
And I was just
really young and naïve.
1870
01:24:47,383 --> 01:24:49,485
I didn't really know
what was going on.
1871
01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:52,188
I didn't know what
that box of Kleenex was for.
1872
01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:56,359
Then we got across the street,
1873
01:24:56,459 --> 01:24:59,528
the Garden of Eden,
which was big at that time.
1874
01:24:59,628 --> 01:25:02,298
We turned that into
a nude encounter parlour.
1875
01:25:02,398 --> 01:25:04,099
Anybody that was legitimate
1876
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,535
didn't wanna go up
against those guys,
1877
01:25:06,635 --> 01:25:08,103
so they'd sell out.
1878
01:25:08,204 --> 01:25:09,538
After a while, I got out
1879
01:25:09,638 --> 01:25:11,874
because I thought they were
gonna blow me away
1880
01:25:11,974 --> 01:25:13,209
if I didn't.
1881
01:25:15,478 --> 01:25:18,547
They ended up ruining the
street is what they did.
1882
01:25:25,321 --> 01:25:28,791
Don Levine, he owned
the club after Mattioli.
1883
01:25:28,891 --> 01:25:30,859
He was very difficult
to deal with.
1884
01:25:30,959 --> 01:25:33,028
Carol worked for hardly
anything at all.
1885
01:25:33,128 --> 01:25:36,799
She got like, I think in
those days, $45 a show.
1886
01:25:36,899 --> 01:25:38,301
She had to get all dressed up,
1887
01:25:38,401 --> 01:25:39,835
spend hours up there.
1888
01:25:40,436 --> 01:25:42,037
Carol wasn't
a very good businesswoman
1889
01:25:42,137 --> 01:25:44,006
but she was a wonderful person.
1890
01:25:44,106 --> 01:25:46,842
She should have made a whole
lot more money than she did.
1891
01:25:46,942 --> 01:25:49,144
Here I was, spending
a lot of money on costuming,
1892
01:25:49,245 --> 01:25:51,113
my wigs, my this, my that.
1893
01:25:51,814 --> 01:25:54,183
And I felt like I was holding
the world on my shoulders.
1894
01:25:54,283 --> 01:25:57,253
And then,
the owner at that time
1895
01:25:57,353 --> 01:25:59,988
was letting the club
go down the drain.
1896
01:26:00,088 --> 01:26:02,090
When you let someplace
deteriorate,
1897
01:26:02,191 --> 01:26:04,059
people are gonna notice that.
1898
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:05,661
But he wanted
to take it out on me.
1899
01:26:05,761 --> 01:26:07,330
He just wanted me to work
on the weekends.
1900
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:09,732
So he wanted to take advantage
of my name,
1901
01:26:09,832 --> 01:26:12,368
wanted me to take
a tremendous salary cut.
1902
01:26:12,468 --> 01:26:13,769
Was very demeaning
1903
01:26:13,869 --> 01:26:16,605
after I'd worked
so many years and so hard.
1904
01:26:17,473 --> 01:26:19,708
Very few women
1905
01:26:19,808 --> 01:26:22,678
have been entrepreneurial
enough
1906
01:26:22,778 --> 01:26:25,514
to really make a long-term
successful business
1907
01:26:25,614 --> 01:26:26,849
out of their chest.
1908
01:26:26,949 --> 01:26:32,120
It tends to be
a fleeting commodity.
1909
01:26:32,221 --> 01:26:35,891
One can imagine
great anxiety around...
1910
01:26:35,991 --> 01:26:37,426
her primary asset.
1911
01:26:39,228 --> 01:26:40,929
It's going out of fashion.
1912
01:26:41,029 --> 01:26:45,568
It's aging.
It's literal deflation.
1913
01:26:46,335 --> 01:26:50,439
What is perennial out of fashion
is the old boob.
1914
01:26:50,539 --> 01:26:53,175
- How old are you now?
- [Doda] How old am I now?
1915
01:26:54,176 --> 01:26:56,245
- Well...
- Are... You don't say?
1916
01:26:56,879 --> 01:26:59,482
Well, uh, I do say
or I don't say
1917
01:26:59,582 --> 01:27:01,384
but what difference
does it make?
1918
01:27:02,084 --> 01:27:04,320
It now seems absurd
to think of a woman
1919
01:27:04,420 --> 01:27:07,256
in her thirties, forties,
as aging.
1920
01:27:07,356 --> 01:27:11,660
But she knew society had said
she had an expiration date.
1921
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,897
I drew up a contract
with Levine and gave it to him.
1922
01:27:14,997 --> 01:27:16,665
Said, "These are the conditions
we want,"
1923
01:27:16,765 --> 01:27:18,601
and I got him to sign
the agreement.
1924
01:27:19,167 --> 01:27:21,670
Otherwise, he never would
pay her anything.
1925
01:27:22,104 --> 01:27:25,441
And Don Levine is the one that
brought Jimmy the Beard in
1926
01:27:25,541 --> 01:27:27,109
as the protector.
1927
01:27:27,209 --> 01:27:29,678
Because there was other people
that wanted to muscle in
1928
01:27:29,778 --> 01:27:31,680
on some of the clubs
on Broadway.
1929
01:27:42,758 --> 01:27:44,026
Jimmy the Beard.
1930
01:27:44,593 --> 01:27:46,995
He was the manager
of the Condor.
1931
01:27:47,563 --> 01:27:49,598
Tough guy, but he didn't act
like a tough guy.
1932
01:27:49,698 --> 01:27:51,434
Was not a bully.
1933
01:27:51,534 --> 01:27:54,637
But I knew he's not somebody
that you'd wanna mess with.
1934
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:57,506
If there was a fight,
and there were occasionally,
1935
01:27:57,606 --> 01:27:59,842
never more than three or four
punches thrown
1936
01:27:59,942 --> 01:28:01,944
because Jimmy was the best.
1937
01:28:02,044 --> 01:28:03,612
If there was any hot action,
he was on it.
1938
01:28:03,712 --> 01:28:04,847
I mean, he was gruff
1939
01:28:04,947 --> 01:28:06,549
and it was just,
whatever he said went.
1940
01:28:06,649 --> 01:28:07,883
But everybody liked him
1941
01:28:07,983 --> 01:28:09,818
'cause he had one
of those personalities.
1942
01:28:09,918 --> 01:28:13,021
And his wife, Ginger,
was my friend.
1943
01:28:13,121 --> 01:28:15,057
Ginger was a dancer
and a waitress.
1944
01:28:15,157 --> 01:28:17,326
They end up moving to Vegas,
1945
01:28:17,426 --> 01:28:20,363
and Jimmy got in a fight
with the son
1946
01:28:20,463 --> 01:28:22,998
of one of the big Mafia guys
in Vegas.
1947
01:28:23,098 --> 01:28:24,500
He beats
the hell out of the guy.
1948
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,135
Think he put the guy
in the hospital.
1949
01:28:27,235 --> 01:28:28,537
Anyway, when this happened,
1950
01:28:28,637 --> 01:28:30,739
the word got out that
they're gonna kill him.
1951
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,909
He came to me,
told me what happened.
1952
01:28:34,009 --> 01:28:35,711
I says, "Oh, Jesus, Jimmy."
1953
01:28:35,811 --> 01:28:38,146
"You're gonna have to have eyes
behind your head."
1954
01:28:38,614 --> 01:28:39,915
He says, "For how long?"
1955
01:28:40,015 --> 01:28:41,850
I says, "Forever."
1956
01:28:41,950 --> 01:28:43,886
-"They're gonna get you."
- Bizarre.
1957
01:28:43,986 --> 01:28:46,822
Perhaps the most overused word
on television newscasts.
1958
01:28:46,922 --> 01:28:50,393
But how else to describe
the death of Jimmy the Beard?
1959
01:28:50,493 --> 01:28:51,894
The lights may be on,
1960
01:28:51,994 --> 01:28:53,862
but the Condor club
is sealed tight.
1961
01:28:53,962 --> 01:28:57,400
Homicide investigates
the bizarre death of this man,
1962
01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,002
James "the Beard" Ferrozzo.
1963
01:29:00,102 --> 01:29:03,005
He came in really
drunk and was with a girl.
1964
01:29:03,105 --> 01:29:04,773
They were drinking
Green Chartreuse,
1965
01:29:04,873 --> 01:29:05,974
I remember that clearly.
1966
01:29:06,074 --> 01:29:07,443
It's pretty strong stuff.
1967
01:29:07,543 --> 01:29:09,244
He said, "Phil, you can
go home now."
1968
01:29:09,344 --> 01:29:11,580
I knew what that meant.
They wanted to party.
1969
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,081
Ginger called me up.
1970
01:29:13,181 --> 01:29:15,017
She said, "Jimmy didn't
come home last night."
1971
01:29:15,117 --> 01:29:17,886
I said, "Weren't you worried
when he didn't come home?"
1972
01:29:17,986 --> 01:29:19,688
She said, "Well, that wasn't
the first night
1973
01:29:19,788 --> 01:29:21,089
he didn't come home all night."
1974
01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:24,126
I found the guy,
and I lost a good friend.
1975
01:29:24,226 --> 01:29:26,929
- What happened, do you know?
- Crushed to d-- He's crushed.
1976
01:29:27,029 --> 01:29:29,364
Found at 10:00
this morning on top of a piano
1977
01:29:29,465 --> 01:29:31,066
suspended in the air.
1978
01:29:31,166 --> 01:29:32,701
He was fully clothed.
1979
01:29:32,801 --> 01:29:36,071
Next to him, naked,
was 23-year-old Theresa Hill.
1980
01:29:36,171 --> 01:29:38,941
I heard the girl's voice.
1981
01:29:39,041 --> 01:29:40,776
So I went through
the dressing room
1982
01:29:40,876 --> 01:29:43,712
and through the tunnel where
Carol Doda goes to do her show
1983
01:29:44,179 --> 01:29:46,248
and saw that the girl was alive.
1984
01:29:46,348 --> 01:29:49,017
And I reached down
and felt Jimmy.
1985
01:29:49,652 --> 01:29:51,987
And... Well, I knew he was dead.
1986
01:29:52,087 --> 01:29:54,122
The survivor,
incoherent when found.
1987
01:29:54,222 --> 01:29:56,492
She says she remembers nothing
of what happened.
1988
01:29:56,592 --> 01:29:58,427
They had been
partying all night.
1989
01:29:58,527 --> 01:29:59,928
There he is
1990
01:30:00,028 --> 01:30:02,164
with his head right in her bush.
1991
01:30:02,264 --> 01:30:06,635
And laying on the bar are these
lines of blow, cocaine.
1992
01:30:06,735 --> 01:30:08,637
I said, "I better
get rid of this stuff
1993
01:30:08,737 --> 01:30:10,138
before the heat comes."
1994
01:30:10,238 --> 01:30:12,808
So I didn't blow it
off the bar.
1995
01:30:12,908 --> 01:30:15,077
I stuffed it up my nose.
1996
01:30:19,247 --> 01:30:20,883
The whole place
is turned upside down.
1997
01:30:20,983 --> 01:30:22,618
Chairs upside down.
1998
01:30:22,718 --> 01:30:24,352
A fight went on in there.
1999
01:30:24,453 --> 01:30:26,522
When homicide
inspectors finally came out,
2000
01:30:26,622 --> 01:30:28,190
they weren't sure.
2001
01:30:28,290 --> 01:30:30,158
It appears to be a homicide,
but that's all we know now.
2002
01:30:30,258 --> 01:30:32,327
Maybe. Maybe not.
2003
01:30:32,427 --> 01:30:34,329
But everybody
who knew anything about it
2004
01:30:34,429 --> 01:30:36,599
knows that piano
moves up slowly.
2005
01:30:36,699 --> 01:30:39,001
And though it's controlled
from a separate panel,
2006
01:30:39,101 --> 01:30:42,437
it can also be stopped with
a switch on the piano itself.
2007
01:30:43,138 --> 01:30:44,940
If you know
where the switch is.
2008
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,142
What I believe
is they killed him.
2009
01:30:47,242 --> 01:30:49,111
I think it was a setup.
2010
01:30:49,211 --> 01:30:50,713
Yeah, I think
they killed him first.
2011
01:30:50,813 --> 01:30:53,649
But Art has another theory.
2012
01:30:53,749 --> 01:30:56,118
I think it was
a total accident.
2013
01:30:56,218 --> 01:30:58,554
He had on cowboy boots.
2014
01:30:58,654 --> 01:31:01,356
His toe hit the up button
2015
01:31:01,890 --> 01:31:05,260
and he was too goofed-up
to know that it was moving.
2016
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:06,895
He woulda loved
that story though.
2017
01:31:06,995 --> 01:31:09,131
Jimmy would've loved it.
2018
01:31:09,231 --> 01:31:10,866
It's a great story, right?
2019
01:31:10,966 --> 01:31:14,369
The piano goes up and his foot
just happens to hit the switch
2020
01:31:14,469 --> 01:31:16,471
that's way over there,
by the way.
2021
01:31:16,572 --> 01:31:18,173
Maybe they just
threw her up there
2022
01:31:18,273 --> 01:31:19,908
and they threw him on her
2023
01:31:20,008 --> 01:31:21,844
and they sent the piano up.
2024
01:31:21,944 --> 01:31:24,913
And they told the girl,
"We're not gonna kill you.
2025
01:31:25,013 --> 01:31:26,649
Now you get outta town.
2026
01:31:26,749 --> 01:31:28,751
Don't ever come
back here again."
2027
01:31:28,851 --> 01:31:31,353
But that's how Jimmy the Beard,
why he got killed.
2028
01:31:41,630 --> 01:31:44,266
Since that bizarre
accident last week,
2029
01:31:44,366 --> 01:31:45,734
Carol Doda's been off work.
2030
01:31:46,434 --> 01:31:49,838
Tonight, she returns,
and the piano still sits there.
2031
01:31:49,938 --> 01:31:53,075
When I was using it,
it was like part of me.
2032
01:31:53,175 --> 01:31:55,343
But now, I mean, the things
that happened on it
2033
01:31:55,443 --> 01:31:57,245
are certainly not a part of me.
2034
01:31:57,345 --> 01:31:59,281
And I really can't relate
to it anymore.
2035
01:32:17,165 --> 01:32:19,735
When Carol retired
from the Condor,
2036
01:32:19,835 --> 01:32:22,237
she had to reinvent herself.
2037
01:32:22,337 --> 01:32:26,474
In the '80s, it still was hard
for women to survive.
2038
01:32:26,575 --> 01:32:29,511
She was really scared
to support herself,
2039
01:32:29,612 --> 01:32:33,081
so she was struggling
to figure out how.
2040
01:32:37,152 --> 01:32:41,389
She was not going to
accept her expiration date.
2041
01:32:41,489 --> 01:32:44,960
She was going to deny it,
work with it,
2042
01:32:45,060 --> 01:32:47,429
work around it, blow it up.
2043
01:32:52,367 --> 01:32:54,302
The best thing
in my life right now
2044
01:32:54,402 --> 01:32:55,904
is my rock and roll show,
2045
01:32:56,004 --> 01:32:58,774
and it's called Carol Doda
and Her Lucky Stiffs.
2046
01:32:59,507 --> 01:33:02,811
And I have my
adult fantasy line.
2047
01:33:02,911 --> 01:33:05,748
Yeah. You've got it.
2048
01:33:05,848 --> 01:33:08,083
976-D-O-D-A.
2049
01:33:08,183 --> 01:33:10,853
You're such a...
handsome guy.
2050
01:33:10,953 --> 01:33:12,688
She was kind of
a jack of all trades
2051
01:33:12,788 --> 01:33:16,825
at trying to find ways
to bring in income.
2052
01:33:16,925 --> 01:33:18,493
Carol Doda is marketing
2053
01:33:18,593 --> 01:33:20,996
her own line
of skin moisturizers,
2054
01:33:21,096 --> 01:33:23,632
and she also exercises
every day.
2055
01:33:23,732 --> 01:33:24,833
Who is Carol Doda?
2056
01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:26,669
Know what I am? A court jester.
2057
01:33:26,769 --> 01:33:29,337
Makes people laugh, entertains
people. That's all I am.
2058
01:33:29,437 --> 01:33:31,273
Is there a serious side
to Carol Doda?
2059
01:33:31,373 --> 01:33:33,676
I've seen my serious side.
Forget it.
2060
01:33:33,776 --> 01:33:36,144
Why not laugh, huh?
Why not laugh at yourself?
2061
01:33:39,782 --> 01:33:41,483
Carol Doda,
how are you?
2062
01:33:41,583 --> 01:33:42,951
I'm fine. How are you?
2063
01:33:43,051 --> 01:33:44,853
- So whatcha doin' nowadays?
- I got a boutique.
2064
01:33:44,953 --> 01:33:46,789
Champagne and lace
lingerie boutique.
2065
01:33:46,889 --> 01:33:50,558
In this little side
street off of Union Street...
2066
01:33:50,659 --> 01:33:53,295
She had this really nice
boutique salon.
2067
01:33:53,395 --> 01:33:56,665
With custom-sized bras
and lingerie.
2068
01:33:56,765 --> 01:33:59,234
I have nice dresses like this.
You like this dress?
2069
01:33:59,968 --> 01:34:01,336
- Yeah.
- She hasn't changed much.
2070
01:34:01,436 --> 01:34:03,071
- Look.
2071
01:34:03,171 --> 01:34:04,639
She went through
2072
01:34:04,740 --> 01:34:06,408
so many bra sizes
in her career,
2073
01:34:06,508 --> 01:34:08,911
she could look at somebody
and know their bra size.
2074
01:34:09,011 --> 01:34:10,378
She was a master.
2075
01:34:10,478 --> 01:34:12,147
A lot of people that
were her customers,
2076
01:34:12,247 --> 01:34:13,716
they weren't really customers.
2077
01:34:13,816 --> 01:34:15,751
They were people that wanted
to come and see her.
2078
01:34:15,851 --> 01:34:17,720
The legendary Carol Doda.
2079
01:34:17,820 --> 01:34:19,521
* Just in time ♪
2080
01:34:19,621 --> 01:34:23,025
I think my father was
a little star-struck initially.
2081
01:34:23,125 --> 01:34:26,561
They met for the first time
at Gino & Carlo's
2082
01:34:26,661 --> 01:34:29,231
which is a very famous
watering hole in North Beach.
2083
01:34:29,331 --> 01:34:31,233
My father, he loved her for her
2084
01:34:31,333 --> 01:34:34,369
and not for "Carol Doda"
the image,
2085
01:34:34,469 --> 01:34:36,004
the marquee, the superstar.
2086
01:34:36,939 --> 01:34:39,441
He was her boyfriend
for a lot of years.
2087
01:34:39,541 --> 01:34:41,176
He really took care of her.
2088
01:34:41,276 --> 01:34:42,677
Carol and my dad, Jay,
2089
01:34:42,778 --> 01:34:44,947
were together
for about ten years.
2090
01:34:45,047 --> 01:34:46,782
That was
the longest relationship
2091
01:34:46,882 --> 01:34:48,383
Carol had ever had.
2092
01:34:48,483 --> 01:34:49,852
She just adored him.
2093
01:34:49,952 --> 01:34:52,587
She described him
as the love of her life.
2094
01:34:52,687 --> 01:34:54,122
Her best friend.
2095
01:34:54,222 --> 01:34:56,591
"Just in Time" song, I think
it had a deep meaning
2096
01:34:56,691 --> 01:34:58,260
between my father and Carol.
2097
01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:59,694
Whenever she'd hit the stage,
2098
01:34:59,795 --> 01:35:01,563
she'd sing "Just in Time"
and point at him
2099
01:35:01,663 --> 01:35:03,498
and look at him the whole time.
2100
01:35:04,032 --> 01:35:06,835
♪ You found me just in time ♪
2101
01:35:08,136 --> 01:35:11,573
♪ And changed
my lonely life... ♪
2102
01:35:11,673 --> 01:35:13,408
He saved her
and she saved him
2103
01:35:13,508 --> 01:35:16,444
in many regards as well.
2104
01:35:16,544 --> 01:35:20,048
When Jay passed away,
it hit her really hard.
2105
01:35:28,690 --> 01:35:30,292
Her health
was deteriorating
2106
01:35:30,392 --> 01:35:31,994
in different ways.
2107
01:35:32,094 --> 01:35:35,931
The doctors said that
the effects of the silicone
2108
01:35:36,031 --> 01:35:39,835
had caused a disease
called Goodpasture syndrome.
2109
01:35:39,935 --> 01:35:42,204
It attacks your kidneys
and your lungs.
2110
01:35:43,005 --> 01:35:44,439
She was very ill,
2111
01:35:44,539 --> 01:35:46,842
and she insists
on going to the Tupelo.
2112
01:35:47,575 --> 01:35:49,978
She was adamant.
"People are counting on me.
2113
01:35:50,078 --> 01:35:51,613
I gave 'em my word."
2114
01:35:51,713 --> 01:35:54,516
She lived to be on stage.
2115
01:35:54,616 --> 01:35:57,219
That was her whole
raison d'etre.
2116
01:35:57,953 --> 01:36:01,089
So we ended up relenting
and we took her to the Tupelo.
2117
01:36:01,189 --> 01:36:05,293
And Carol pulls out this sack
of makeup out of her purse
2118
01:36:05,393 --> 01:36:07,262
and starts drawing eyebrows
2119
01:36:07,362 --> 01:36:10,165
and drawing the eyeliner
around her eyes
2120
01:36:10,265 --> 01:36:12,901
and transforms herself
into Carol.
2121
01:36:13,368 --> 01:36:16,104
She's the icon of North Beach
2122
01:36:16,204 --> 01:36:19,541
and has been for many years.
Miss Carol Doda.
2123
01:36:21,609 --> 01:36:25,380
I remember
her walking very slowly
2124
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:27,615
because her breathing
was labored.
2125
01:36:27,715 --> 01:36:30,118
She would put her hand
on the keyboard
2126
01:36:30,218 --> 01:36:31,887
and feel the music
2127
01:36:31,987 --> 01:36:34,056
because she couldn't hear.
2128
01:36:34,156 --> 01:36:38,160
And she broke out in "All of Me"
2129
01:36:38,260 --> 01:36:40,695
like she's done
a million times.
2130
01:36:40,795 --> 01:36:42,097
♪ All of me ♪
2131
01:36:43,265 --> 01:36:44,933
♪ Why not take all of me ♪
2132
01:36:46,969 --> 01:36:51,573
♪ Can't you see I'm no good
without you ♪
2133
01:36:53,241 --> 01:36:55,043
♪ Take my lips ♪
2134
01:36:55,677 --> 01:36:57,612
♪ I'll never use them ♪
2135
01:36:59,314 --> 01:37:00,949
♪ Take my arms ♪
2136
01:37:02,517 --> 01:37:05,753
♪ I won't use them ♪
2137
01:37:07,122 --> 01:37:08,857
♪ Your goodbye ♪
2138
01:37:09,424 --> 01:37:12,594
♪ Left me with eyes that cry ♪
2139
01:37:13,328 --> 01:37:16,731
♪ How can I go on without ♪
2140
01:37:18,133 --> 01:37:20,135
♪ You took that part ♪
2141
01:37:20,835 --> 01:37:24,006
♪ That once was my heart ♪
2142
01:37:24,106 --> 01:37:28,543
♪ So why not
Why not take all of me ♪
2143
01:37:28,643 --> 01:37:30,045
Okay, boys.
2144
01:37:30,145 --> 01:37:32,614
♪ Why not ♪
2145
01:37:33,681 --> 01:37:37,385
♪ I said, why not ♪
2146
01:37:40,155 --> 01:37:42,958
♪ Why not, baby ♪
2147
01:37:44,292 --> 01:37:50,732
♪ Why not take all of me ♪
2148
01:37:51,199 --> 01:37:55,303
♪ Oh, yeah ♪
2149
01:38:12,921 --> 01:38:15,590
Your frustrations
have to come out some way.
2150
01:38:15,690 --> 01:38:18,026
So mine come out
in my drawings.
2151
01:38:20,428 --> 01:38:22,664
I believe in entertainment.
2152
01:38:22,764 --> 01:38:24,432
And I believe in love.
2153
01:38:26,001 --> 01:38:27,135
Why, all of a sudden,
2154
01:38:27,235 --> 01:38:28,971
is everybody becoming
so puritanical?
2155
01:38:29,071 --> 01:38:31,639
Are they afraid of the body?
2156
01:38:31,739 --> 01:38:34,642
Are they afraid that people
don't have minds of their own?
2157
01:38:34,742 --> 01:38:36,878
I think I'll just go on
doing my act.
2158
01:38:44,252 --> 01:38:46,121
I think we've
covered everything.