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[woman 1] <i>When I was 15,
I had a... vision.</i>

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[swinging psychedelic
rock music plays]

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<i>Thought I would be in
the entertainment business.</i>

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<i>I didn't know what.</i>

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[rock music crescendos,
cuts off suddenly]

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[gentle blues rock riff plays]

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[upbeat blues pop music plays]

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[man 1] <i>Back then, it was the
beginning of a whole new world.</i>

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[reporter 1] <i>50,000 people
converged on the civic center</i>

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<i>to protest
a Goldwater nomination</i>

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<i>at the demonstration
for civil rights.</i>

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[man 1] <i>Shit was different then,
you know?</i>

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<i>A lot of rules
were being broken.</i>

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[clamoring]

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Open another,
we'll shut it down!

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[reporter 2]
<i>Whatever prompted you</i>

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<i>to develop this topless
bathing suit anyway?</i>

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Well, I believe
that it is a definite trend.

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[reporter 2] <i>Why do you think
it's gonna catch on</i>

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<i>in the United States? Aren't we
prudish about such matters?</i>

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Well, I think more prudish
than the rest of the world, yes.

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We must decide
what sort of people we are

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and what sort of a world
we want.

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Talented young lady
named Carol Doda.

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Oh, you can't reach me.
How about if I do a little lean?

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[Doda] <i>San Francisco
is a happening town.</i>

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<i>They wanna see entertainment.</i>

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[reporter 3] <i>You're given credit
for launching</i>

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<i>the topless craze.</i>

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[man 2] <i>Ms. Carol Doda,
the topless queen.</i>

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[Doda] <i>That's right. That's
where it happened, the Condor.</i>

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[reporter 4] <i>She made an
international name for herself.</i>

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<i>- There's nudity in your show.
- Wanna tell you something.</i>

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There's nudity,
but it's done tastefully.

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<i>Art lovers go and see that.
This is another form of art.</i>

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<i>Like a nude painting
or a nude statue.</i>

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<i>It has taste.</i>

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[man 3] <i>Was always a class act.</i>

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[woman 2] <i>Carol Doda, of course,
was the star of North Beach.</i>

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[man 4] <i>Why was Carol famous?</i>

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[woman 3] <i>She was more than
a stripper, a go-go dancer.</i>

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[woman 4] <i>There was just
something different about her.</i>

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[man 1] <i>She was brave enough
to do something</i>

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<i>no one had done before.</i>

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[woman 3] <i>In every way,
it made sense</i>

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<i>that people went absolutely
wild when she did this.</i>

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<i>But it was nowhere near
the revolutionary places</i>

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<i>that she was going to take
American culture.</i>

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[blues pop music ends
in discordant cacophony]

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[gentle blues rock riff resumes]

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[music ends]

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- [car horns honking]
- [traffic buzzing]

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[man 5] <i>Broadway Street,
it was fantastic.</i>

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[man 6] <i>Everybody that came
to San Francisco in those days</i>

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<i>came to Broadway.</i>

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[lively, funky music plays]

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[woman 2] <i>Those clubs
were packed with tourists.</i>

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[man 1] <i>North Beach
was the off-season Vegas.</i>

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[man 7] <i>It was a very active
music scene.</i>

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[woman 4] <i>I saw all these
great, great performers</i>

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<i>and we'd see these at breakfast
shows at 2:00 in the morning.</i>

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[man 7]
<i>You had the Jazz Workshop.</i>

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<i>Down the street,
you had Lenny Bruce.</i>

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<i>I mean,
it was entertainment row.</i>

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[newscaster]
<i>10:00 p.m. in San Francisco.</i>

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<i>This Baghdad by the Bay</i>

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<i>is a swinging place.</i>

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<i>The happening clubs</i>

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<i>- were Pierre's...
- The Off-Broadway.</i>

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<i>- Roaring 20's.
- Purple Onion.</i>

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<i>- The Hungry I.
- El Cid.</i>

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<i>- Big Al's.
- The Galaxie.</i>

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<i>- Then you have Finocchio's.
- Peppermint Tree.</i>

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<i>- And the Condor.
- Condor.</i>

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<i>- The Condor.
- The Condor.</i>

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<i>- The Condor.
- Condor was the place to go.</i>

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<i>It was right on the corner
there. It was beautiful.</i>

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<i>Everybody was friendly.</i>

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[backup singers]
<i>♪ Hully gully, pretty papa ♪</i>

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[vocalist 1] <i>* All right ♪</i>

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[man 7] <i>Carol started
at the Condor as a waitress.</i>

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[Doda] <i>I really didn't know
how to serve cocktails,</i>

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<i>so it was like this
tremendous pressure</i>

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because I had to do good.

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I just had to prove myself

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as a capable worker.

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That somebody
would be proud of me.

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<i>So I became one of the best
cocktail waitresses</i>

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<i>in San Francisco.</i>

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[backup singers]
<i>♪ Hully gully, pretty papa... ♪</i>

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[Mazza] <i>When I started
working at night</i>

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<i>is when I really
got to meet Carol.</i>

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And she was just
one of the cocktail waitresses,

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<i>but she had the front station,
the busiest station.</i>

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[Doda] <i>I had this habit</i>

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<i>of always jumping around
and dancing,</i>

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<i>and I would be relating
to the people</i>

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<i>like I was entertaining them,
only I was serving them drinks.</i>

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<i>They thought I was crazy</i>

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<i>and they loved me
and they'd come back.</i>

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[Martini] <i>Carol Doda was friends
with everybody.</i>

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Everybody liked her.

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[Mazza] <i>She always wore
a white leotard.</i>

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<i>The rest of us
wore black leotards.</i>

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<i>You know, she stood out.</i>

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<i>The Condor was a blast.</i>

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<i>And they had good bands.</i>

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[vocalist 2] <i>1964...</i>

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[man in audience] <i>Oh yeah!</i>

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<i>...and we gonna dance
some more.</i>

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George & Teddy were
the big hit for the North Beach.

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[man 6] <i>They sang
all the Motown songs</i>

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[Jimi Mamou] <i>They were
the first musicians</i>

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<i>that brought the crowd
into the Condor.</i>

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- [cheering]
- [scattered applause]

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[swinging surf rock style
lounge music plays]

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<i>♪ Mary had a little lamb ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Whose fleece
were white as snow ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Hey! ♪</i>

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<i>♪ And everywhere
that Mary went ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Her lamb was sure to go... ♪</i>

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[Martini] <i>George & Teddy,</i>

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<i>they were the talk of the town
back then.</i>

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<i>- ♪ Baby ♪
- ♪ Crackin' up over you ♪</i>

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<i>♪ I said I love you, baby
Love you, girl ♪</i>

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<i>♪ Don't you wanna
love me too? ♪</i>

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[snappy, upbeat saxophone solo]

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[Martini] <i>I just would wail
on my horn, you know,</i>

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<i>for that style.</i>

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[solo continues]

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And those girls were
really risque for the time.

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<i>♪ Crackin' up over you... ♪</i>

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[Martini] <i>George & Teddy
coming out between their legs.</i>

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All of a sudden,
you see Teddy going...

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- He was a naughty boy.
- Whoa!

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[upbeat surf rock
electric guitar solo]

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[man 5] <i>Pete Mattioli and Gino
Del Prete owned the Condor.</i>

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[Jimi Mamou] <i>Pete and Gino.</i>

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<i>They were two little,
short Italian kids</i>

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but they ran a tough club.

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[woman 5] <i>Gino,
he was just a character.</i>

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<i>He was a superstar himself.</i>

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<i>'cause he involved himself
with all the people.</i>

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He was somebody to go see.

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Gino was a naughty boy.

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And I ain't gonna say
another word.

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[Pete Mattioli] <i>I used to drive
his father's ravioli truck</i>

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I knew Gino a long time.

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[Farrugia] <i>Gino was wild</i>

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<i>and unpredictable.</i>

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<i>Pete, he wasn't a saint.</i>

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But he was a straight arrow
compared to Gino.

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[Martini] <i>Pete ran it
totally professional.</i>

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[Pete Mattioli]
<i>We had go-go girls</i>

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<i>and we had the best-looking
cocktail waitresses in town.</i>

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I was always dancing.

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<i>And they said, "Oh, Carol,
get up on the stage."</i>

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<i>And I'd go between serving
drinks, jump up on the stage.</i>

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They had this piano player.
He said, "Get up here,

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there's no room on the stage."
So I got up on the piano.

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["Bru's Boogie Woogie" by
The Dave Brubeck Quartet plays]

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[Mazza] <i>Carol jumped on
the piano and did the Twist</i>

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and people used to love that.

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And I think that's how she
got the idea, you know?

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"This'll be my thing."

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- [cheering]
<i>- George, do "Bony Moronie"!</i>

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[audience cheering]

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[up-tempo soul music plays]

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<i>♪ Oh, I got a girl named
Bony Moronie ♪</i>

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[backup singers
vocalize rhythmically]

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<i>♪ She as skinny
as a stick of macaroni ♪</i>

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- [backup singers vocalize]
<i>- Whoa!</i>

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[Thanash] <i>The competition
was real tough.</i>

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<i>That's why we all tried
to be a little diverse</i>

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and have something different.

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You had to have a gimmick.

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[fast-paced surf rock drumming]

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[Mazza] <i>I go into the Condor
early one night</i>

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<i>and Gino's at the bar
and we're talking and he says,</i>

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<i>"I'm gonna have that piano
come down from the ceiling."</i>

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<i>I said,
"The piano weighs a ton."</i>

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"No, I got a guy.

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He's gonna do the hydraulics.
It's gonna happen."

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And I'm thinking,
"Yeah, what's he thinking?"

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Well, I had to
cut a hole in the ceiling

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and then we had to make a tunnel

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<i>from the dressing room
to that hole</i>

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<i>where she'd stand on the piano</i>

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and press the button
and then come down.

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[Mazza] <i>Carol gets on the piano</i>

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<i>and everybody's like
holding their breath...</i>

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[gasps] "Is this gonna work?"

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[vocalist 3] <i>You know you gotta
keep up with the times</i>

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<i>if you wanna be mine.
So let's do it.</i>

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[Mazza] <i>And it came down.
It came down, hit the stage,</i>

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and she's doing the Twist and
we're all goin', "Oh my God.

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It happened."

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[vocalist 3] <i>* The dance they
were doing was outta sight ♪</i>

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[Doda] <i>This crazy piano
went up and down</i>

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<i>like an elevator
in the ceiling.</i>

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<i>♪ Then I could do it ♪</i>

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- [upbeat pop music plays]
- <i>* Aww, shake it up now... ♪</i>

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There were so many dance crazes
in the 1960s.

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The Frug, the Watusi, the Twist,

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<i>the Limbo,</i>

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<i>the Swim.</i>

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[woman 6] <i>The Galaxie on
Broadway hired a girl named...</i>

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[Mac] <i>Judy Mac.</i>

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I was a hat check girl
at the Galaxie.

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<i>And the owner asked
to take me to dinner.</i>

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<i>And I thought, "Yeah, I'll go.
What do you have in mind?"</i>

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<i>He said,
"Well, here's the deal.</i>

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<i>We heard about this dance
called the Swim dance.</i>

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<i>And we wanna know if you will
run a contest and perform it."</i>

217
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<i>I said, "What's the Swim
dance?"</i>

218
00:09:33,073 --> 00:09:34,407
<i>He said, "I don't know.</i>

219
00:09:34,507 --> 00:09:36,176
<i>Just dance and look like
you're swimming."</i>

220
00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:37,811
<i>And I said, "Oh, okay.</i>

221
00:09:37,911 --> 00:09:39,046
<i>I can do that."</i>

222
00:09:40,513 --> 00:09:42,315
[upbeat surf rock music plays]

223
00:09:42,415 --> 00:09:43,951
[woman 6] <i>It was publicized
in the newspaper</i>

224
00:09:44,051 --> 00:09:45,686
<i>and people were curious
and came to see it</i>

225
00:09:45,786 --> 00:09:48,856
<i>because Judy Mac pulled her
dress up and did the Swim.</i>

226
00:09:48,956 --> 00:09:51,959
That was kinda risque
back in the '60s.

227
00:09:52,059 --> 00:09:55,195
<i>That became the big rage with
Bobby Freeman's hit record,</i>

228
00:09:55,295 --> 00:09:56,830
<i>who was from San Francisco.</i>

229
00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:58,999
Let me introduce an old friend
of <i>American Bandstand,</i>

230
00:09:59,099 --> 00:10:01,001
Mr. Bobby Freeman!

231
00:10:01,101 --> 00:10:02,335
Come on, everybody!

232
00:10:02,435 --> 00:10:03,804
A-come on in!

233
00:10:03,904 --> 00:10:07,274
Bobby's gonna show you
how to do the Swim!

234
00:10:07,374 --> 00:10:09,609
[up-tempo surf rock music plays]

235
00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:14,381
[Clark] <i>How did it start
and where?</i>

236
00:10:14,481 --> 00:10:17,217
Well, actually, I started
the Swim two years ago, Dick.

237
00:10:17,317 --> 00:10:19,186
[Boone] <i>It was a Twist party
that took place</i>

238
00:10:19,286 --> 00:10:20,688
<i>at the Cow Palace.</i>

239
00:10:20,788 --> 00:10:22,690
<i>And the headliner
was Chubby Checker.</i>

240
00:10:22,790 --> 00:10:25,292
<i>Bobby Freeman got on stage
and he was doing his hits.</i>

241
00:10:25,392 --> 00:10:28,128
<i>So then Bobby had a last
encore,</i>

242
00:10:28,228 --> 00:10:29,963
<i>but he ran out of songs.</i>

243
00:10:30,063 --> 00:10:33,033
There was a musician there
that was on keyboard.

244
00:10:33,133 --> 00:10:35,402
<i>It was an 18-year-old guy
named Sly Stone,</i>

245
00:10:35,502 --> 00:10:38,505
<i>and he started playing this
riff on the organ.</i>

246
00:10:39,106 --> 00:10:41,975
<i>So Bobby caught on and he
started doing these gyrations</i>

247
00:10:42,075 --> 00:10:45,578
and he started doing
hand motions forward.

248
00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,847
And then all of a sudden,

249
00:10:46,947 --> 00:10:49,016
you know,
the crowd went ecstatic.

250
00:10:49,116 --> 00:10:52,052
So after the show,
Sly Stone says,

251
00:10:52,152 --> 00:10:53,586
<i>"Man, what was you doing
up there?</i>

252
00:10:53,687 --> 00:10:55,322
<i>Like you were swimmin'
or something."</i>

253
00:10:55,422 --> 00:10:56,924
<i>And the Swim was born.</i>

254
00:10:58,425 --> 00:11:01,695
[Mac] <i>I was given credit
for being the creator</i>

255
00:11:01,795 --> 00:11:03,530
<i>of the Swim dance.</i>

256
00:11:03,630 --> 00:11:05,465
I don't even claim that.

257
00:11:06,099 --> 00:11:08,736
[Boone] <i>Judy Mac did her own
variations of the Swim,</i>

258
00:11:08,836 --> 00:11:10,470
<i>and that's when it caught on.</i>

259
00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:13,273
"Wait a minute.
Bobby Freeman's the originator.

260
00:11:13,373 --> 00:11:16,643
<i>So what we need to do is make
a song outta this dance."</i>

261
00:11:16,744 --> 00:11:19,346
<i>Tom Donahue collaborated
with Sly Stone</i>

262
00:11:19,446 --> 00:11:23,216
<i>and co-wrote the song
and called it "C'mon and Swim."</i>

263
00:11:23,316 --> 00:11:24,852
<i>And it became a smash.</i>

264
00:11:25,285 --> 00:11:28,188
<i>♪ Do what you wanna
'Cause it's all right ♪</i>

265
00:11:28,288 --> 00:11:30,724
<i>♪ 'Cause Bobby's gonna show you
How to swim tonight ♪</i>

266
00:11:30,824 --> 00:11:32,225
<i>♪ Now, baby, swim ♪</i>

267
00:11:34,828 --> 00:11:36,463
[music ends]

268
00:11:36,563 --> 00:11:38,732
[reporter 2] <i>Besides the fact
that it's topless,</i>

269
00:11:38,832 --> 00:11:41,068
<i>what else is unique
about this swimsuit?</i>

270
00:11:41,168 --> 00:11:43,603
There isn't really anything
very unique about it

271
00:11:43,703 --> 00:11:46,306
other than the fact
that it has no top.

272
00:11:46,406 --> 00:11:50,643
The swimsuit is a particularly
interesting garment

273
00:11:50,744 --> 00:11:54,714
when it comes to the history
of women's liberation.

274
00:11:54,815 --> 00:11:56,850
["Calcutta" by The Ventures
plays]

275
00:12:04,224 --> 00:12:06,860
Well, I could go back
to the bikini.

276
00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:12,299
<i>When that first was shown in
Italy, people just almost died.</i>

277
00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:13,466
Oh!

278
00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:15,002
[reporter 5] <i>Rudi Gernreich</i>

279
00:12:15,102 --> 00:12:16,904
<i>is surely one
of the most controversial</i>

280
00:12:17,004 --> 00:12:20,640
<i>and also most highly respected
figures in the fashion world.</i>

281
00:12:20,740 --> 00:12:24,978
He is very avant-garde and
a very forward-thinking person

282
00:12:25,078 --> 00:12:28,448
which will influence the world,
in my estimation.

283
00:12:28,548 --> 00:12:31,318
[woman 3] <i>Why did he come up
with this idea?</i>

284
00:12:31,418 --> 00:12:33,453
<i>How did he come up
with this idea?</i>

285
00:12:34,254 --> 00:12:35,488
It's very political.

286
00:12:35,588 --> 00:12:39,159
[Thornton]
<i>Fashion is highly political.</i>

287
00:12:39,927 --> 00:12:43,363
<i>And has been
from the dawn of time.</i>

288
00:12:43,463 --> 00:12:46,733
When first-wave feminists
were trying to get the vote,

289
00:12:46,834 --> 00:12:49,002
<i>there was also
a dress reform movement</i>

290
00:12:49,102 --> 00:12:50,670
<i>because they were
dressed in corsets</i>

291
00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,205
<i>and they could barely breathe.</i>

292
00:12:53,106 --> 00:12:55,976
[woman 3] <i>Rudi Gernreich
isn't just a fashion designer.</i>

293
00:12:56,076 --> 00:12:58,678
<i>He's one of the first members</i>

294
00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:00,513
<i>of the Mattachine Society,</i>

295
00:13:00,613 --> 00:13:02,615
<i>which is one of the first
gay rights groups</i>

296
00:13:02,715 --> 00:13:04,084
<i>in the United States.</i>

297
00:13:05,285 --> 00:13:09,990
<i>Eventually, magazines agreed to
run the photo of the monokini,</i>

298
00:13:10,090 --> 00:13:12,359
<i>but it was a big controversy
from the beginning.</i>

299
00:13:12,459 --> 00:13:14,995
[interviewer] <i>Do you think
it could become popular?</i>

300
00:13:15,929 --> 00:13:17,330
No. [giggles]

301
00:13:17,430 --> 00:13:20,067
<i>- Why not?</i>
- Lot of bashful women around.

302
00:13:20,167 --> 00:13:22,335
I think men won't have respect
for any girl at all,

303
00:13:22,435 --> 00:13:24,071
whether she's good or bad.

304
00:13:24,171 --> 00:13:26,206
Problem is, I think you'd get
picked up for indecent exposure

305
00:13:26,306 --> 00:13:27,941
as soon as you were
found with one on.

306
00:13:28,041 --> 00:13:31,544
I'm afraid I'd have to tell her
to, uh, cover up.

307
00:13:31,644 --> 00:13:35,382
If she refused, I would have to,
uh, take her into custody.

308
00:13:35,482 --> 00:13:37,717
[woman 3] <i>The monokini, to me,</i>

309
00:13:37,817 --> 00:13:40,888
<i>really unlocks
a whole deeper level</i>

310
00:13:40,988 --> 00:13:43,556
of what Carol Doda was about

311
00:13:43,656 --> 00:13:45,092
and what she achieved.

312
00:13:45,192 --> 00:13:48,862
[Thornton] <i>It seems to me
that the monokini was...</i>

313
00:13:48,962 --> 00:13:51,264
a kind of momentary gimmick.

314
00:13:51,364 --> 00:13:52,665
Okay.

315
00:13:52,765 --> 00:13:54,434
But let's talk about

316
00:13:54,534 --> 00:13:56,870
the monokini as a symbol.

317
00:13:56,970 --> 00:14:00,407
<i>And to do that, you have to
understand what was happening</i>

318
00:14:00,507 --> 00:14:04,744
<i>in 1964 and 1965, 1966.</i>

319
00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:06,546
<i>The Vietnam War.</i>

320
00:14:06,646 --> 00:14:08,115
[indistinct chanting]

321
00:14:08,215 --> 00:14:11,518
...this, which is really
heightened in the consciousness,

322
00:14:11,618 --> 00:14:13,620
<i>would take action!</i>

323
00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,756
[Martin] <i>The stirrings
of the feminist movement.</i>

324
00:14:16,856 --> 00:14:19,426
What you see here
is the beginning of a movement

325
00:14:19,526 --> 00:14:21,128
that women are human beings

326
00:14:21,228 --> 00:14:22,429
and we have equal rights.

327
00:14:22,529 --> 00:14:24,564
[Martin]
<i>The civil rights movement</i>

328
00:14:24,664 --> 00:14:26,900
<i>starting to gain momentum.</i>

329
00:14:27,367 --> 00:14:31,204
...to end the long night
of racial injustice...

330
00:14:33,140 --> 00:14:35,575
[Martin] <i>So this is
an extraordinary moment</i>

331
00:14:35,675 --> 00:14:37,177
<i>in American history</i>

332
00:14:37,644 --> 00:14:39,913
and during this
extraordinary moment,

333
00:14:40,013 --> 00:14:45,118
<i>Carol Doda is handed, by Big
Davey Rosenberg, this monokini.</i>

334
00:14:45,218 --> 00:14:47,887
[reporter 6] <i>He says he designed
it only to illustrate a trend,</i>

335
00:14:47,988 --> 00:14:50,623
<i>but buyers began demanding
the topless swimsuit</i>

336
00:14:50,723 --> 00:14:52,725
<i>and now it's reaching
the market.</i>

337
00:14:52,825 --> 00:14:55,795
[up-tempo surf rock music plays]

338
00:15:02,335 --> 00:15:03,971
[Pete Mattioli]
<i>Davey was the PR man</i>

339
00:15:04,071 --> 00:15:06,940
<i>and anything that would make
the news, Davey would do.</i>

340
00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,576
Initially, he brought you
the newspaper and showed you.

341
00:15:09,676 --> 00:15:12,279
And it was on the front page,
above the masthead.

342
00:15:12,379 --> 00:15:13,546
<i>You went, "Oh my gosh."</i>

343
00:15:14,114 --> 00:15:16,183
[Pete Mattioli] <i>So Davey says,
"Let's go buy it."</i>

344
00:15:16,283 --> 00:15:17,784
Everybody knew Davey.

345
00:15:17,884 --> 00:15:21,921
<i>He was very active
in promoting Carol.</i>

346
00:15:22,022 --> 00:15:24,124
<i>That was his thing
at the Condor.</i>

347
00:15:24,224 --> 00:15:27,427
He called me up and said, "Come
down here. We have a surprise."

348
00:15:27,961 --> 00:15:30,763
Well, I got down there. They
said they had a new costume.

349
00:15:31,564 --> 00:15:34,101
And I just see this little
bikini thing with two straps.

350
00:15:35,068 --> 00:15:36,103
And...

351
00:15:36,203 --> 00:15:37,370
"I'm not gonna wear that."

352
00:15:37,804 --> 00:15:39,506
[Pete Mattioli]
<i>We showed it to her</i>

353
00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:41,441
<i>and convinced Carol to wear it.</i>

354
00:15:41,541 --> 00:15:44,544
[Martin] <i>Carol Doda says,
"I was stupid.</i>

355
00:15:44,644 --> 00:15:46,479
<i>If you told me to do it,
I did it."</i>

356
00:15:46,579 --> 00:15:48,115
She's not stupid at all.

357
00:15:48,215 --> 00:15:49,349
I think, on some level,

358
00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:51,151
she really knew
that it was a weapon.

359
00:15:51,251 --> 00:15:53,853
["Do the Monkey"
by Bobby Freeman plays]

360
00:15:54,821 --> 00:15:56,723
<i>♪ Stand in a circle ♪</i>

361
00:15:57,424 --> 00:15:59,126
<i>♪ Go round and round... ♪</i>

362
00:15:59,226 --> 00:16:01,328
[man 8] <i>My dad had a friend
who told him</i>

363
00:16:01,428 --> 00:16:02,996
<i>he needs to come to the Condor</i>

364
00:16:03,096 --> 00:16:05,332
<i>'cause all hell
was gonna break loose.</i>

365
00:16:05,432 --> 00:16:09,002
It was my birthday,
June 19, '64.

366
00:16:09,102 --> 00:16:11,204
<i>His friend comes up and says,
"Hey man,</i>

367
00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:13,140
<i>can't have your son there.
He's underage."</i>

368
00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,807
<i>They stuck me
in the dressing room.</i>

369
00:16:14,907 --> 00:16:16,409
<i>I remember seeing Carol there,</i>

370
00:16:16,509 --> 00:16:18,578
<i>and she says,
"What a cute little boy."</i>

371
00:16:19,112 --> 00:16:20,580
[Doda] <i>I never had
any feelings of,</i>

372
00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,415
<i>"Should I do this
or shouldn't I do this?"</i>

373
00:16:22,515 --> 00:16:24,717
Except for the minute
that I was on the piano,

374
00:16:24,817 --> 00:16:26,719
<i>getting ready to come down
out of the ceiling,</i>

375
00:16:26,819 --> 00:16:28,388
<i>topless for the first time.</i>

376
00:16:28,488 --> 00:16:31,591
<i>I said, "Carol, do you really
know what you're doing?"</i>

377
00:16:32,192 --> 00:16:34,994
<i>I said, "Yes, I want to be
in show business</i>

378
00:16:35,095 --> 00:16:36,996
<i>and I don't know any other way</i>

379
00:16:37,097 --> 00:16:38,998
<i>but to start showing
my business."</i>

380
00:16:39,099 --> 00:16:42,169
And the proverbial shit
hit the fan.

381
00:16:42,269 --> 00:16:45,405
["C'mon and Swim"
by Bobby Freeman plays]

382
00:16:45,505 --> 00:16:46,939
[Vicious]
<i>I'm in the dressing room</i>

383
00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:48,741
<i>and I'm hearing
whistles and hollering.</i>

384
00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:53,046
[Jimi Mamou] <i>Within 20 minutes,
Big Al's, next to the Condor,</i>

385
00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:54,881
<i>people started drifting
out of the club,</i>

386
00:16:54,981 --> 00:16:56,683
<i>"What's happening?
What's happening?"</i>

387
00:16:57,284 --> 00:16:59,119
<i>"The girl out there
taking her top off,"</i>

388
00:16:59,219 --> 00:17:00,720
<i>and the place emptied out.</i>

389
00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:02,389
<i>Everybody ran to see this.</i>

390
00:17:02,489 --> 00:17:04,691
Even the band. We took off too.

391
00:17:04,791 --> 00:17:06,926
[Bobby Freeman]
<i>♪ Come on, baby ♪</i>

392
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,063
<i>♪ I want you to swim ♪</i>

393
00:17:10,830 --> 00:17:12,865
I'm going, "I wanna go out,"
and the guy's like,

394
00:17:12,965 --> 00:17:14,834
<i>"No, you can't.
You're underage."</i>

395
00:17:15,368 --> 00:17:17,904
I didn't know what was happening
but I was buzzed.

396
00:17:18,004 --> 00:17:19,572
She came down on that piano,

397
00:17:20,407 --> 00:17:22,442
and it was a sensation.

398
00:17:22,542 --> 00:17:25,078
<i>♪ Bobby's gonna do the swim
For you tonight ♪</i>

399
00:17:25,178 --> 00:17:27,414
<i>- ♪ Now, baby, swim... ♪
- The Condor breaks loose</i>

400
00:17:27,514 --> 00:17:29,116
<i>with Carol, okay?</i>

401
00:17:29,216 --> 00:17:30,617
<i>The Condor breaks loose.</i>

402
00:17:30,717 --> 00:17:32,485
[man 9] <i>She took the top off</i>

403
00:17:32,585 --> 00:17:34,687
<i>and everybody would gasp.</i>

404
00:17:35,422 --> 00:17:38,158
'Cause they never saw topless
in those days.

405
00:17:39,692 --> 00:17:41,461
[Doda] <i>They were lined up
around the corner.</i>

406
00:17:41,561 --> 00:17:44,497
<i>Like they'd never seen bare
breasts before in their lives.</i>

407
00:17:44,597 --> 00:17:46,999
<i>The shows people were usually
seeing were strip shows</i>

408
00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,502
<i>where they would be covered up
with pasties, the nipples.</i>

409
00:17:49,602 --> 00:17:52,004
<i>So the nipples were a big deal,
you know?</i>

410
00:17:52,105 --> 00:17:54,674
<i>The greatest things since
sliced bread, I guess.</i>

411
00:17:55,242 --> 00:17:57,644
[man 5] <i>It was amazing
how fast the word spread.</i>

412
00:17:57,744 --> 00:18:00,447
Man, three or four deep
on the sidewalks.

413
00:18:00,547 --> 00:18:02,682
I mean, you couldn't even walk
down the sidewalk.

414
00:18:02,782 --> 00:18:05,952
<i>It happened during the
Republican National Convention</i>

415
00:18:06,052 --> 00:18:08,255
<i>- that was at the Cow Palace.</i>
- [bell rings]

416
00:18:08,355 --> 00:18:10,590
[announcer] <i>The eyes of
the nation are on San Francisco</i>

417
00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:12,325
<i>as the Republican party
convenes</i>

418
00:18:12,425 --> 00:18:14,394
<i>to nominate
its choice for president.</i>

419
00:18:16,263 --> 00:18:18,365
[announcer 2] <i>The Republican
man of the hour</i>

420
00:18:18,465 --> 00:18:20,467
<i>and a smiling
Mrs. Barry Goldwater</i>

421
00:18:20,567 --> 00:18:21,801
<i>meet the people and the press</i>

422
00:18:21,901 --> 00:18:23,803
<i>as they walk the streets
of San Francisco</i>

423
00:18:23,903 --> 00:18:27,940
<i>in the opening days of the
Republican National Convention.</i>

424
00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,942
[Derdevanis] <i>Best publicity
they could have done.</i>

425
00:18:30,042 --> 00:18:33,646
[triumphant instrumentals play
on news segment]

426
00:18:33,746 --> 00:18:35,548
[Pete Mattioli]
<i>Barry Goldwater's two sons</i>

427
00:18:35,648 --> 00:18:38,885
<i>came into the club. Just like
anybody, they wanted to see it.</i>

428
00:18:38,985 --> 00:18:42,289
[up-tempo surf rock music plays]

429
00:18:43,089 --> 00:18:44,957
[reporter 7]
Nervous that first night?

430
00:18:45,057 --> 00:18:46,626
Yeah, I was for the first show.

431
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,928
It was different. [laughs]

432
00:18:53,500 --> 00:18:55,535
[crowd cheering]

433
00:18:55,635 --> 00:18:57,704
[Chubby Checker]
<i>♪ It's Pony time! Get up! ♪</i>

434
00:18:57,804 --> 00:18:59,339
<i>♪ Boogety, boogety
Boogety, boogety, shoo... ♪</i>

435
00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:02,675
[Martin] <i>She's notorious,
she's celebrated.</i>

436
00:19:02,775 --> 00:19:04,744
<i>She and the Condor club
sort of usher in</i>

437
00:19:04,844 --> 00:19:07,079
<i>this era of topless dancing.</i>

438
00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:09,816
It becomes "a thing"
because of Carol Doda

439
00:19:09,916 --> 00:19:11,218
<i>and her monokini.</i>

440
00:19:11,318 --> 00:19:14,354
[swinging psychedelic
rock music plays]

441
00:19:15,955 --> 00:19:18,725
[Judy Mamou] <i>After Carol
started the topless,</i>

442
00:19:18,825 --> 00:19:22,429
<i>nobody wanted
to see Swim dancing.</i>

443
00:19:22,529 --> 00:19:25,598
[Thanash]
<i>When I had the belly dancers</i>

444
00:19:25,698 --> 00:19:27,567
<i>with a half-empty room,</i>

445
00:19:27,667 --> 00:19:31,604
and the Condor had a line
all the way around the corner

446
00:19:31,704 --> 00:19:33,206
up to my place,

447
00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,774
<i>I said, "That's it.</i>

448
00:19:35,342 --> 00:19:38,110
<i>The belly dancers can go."</i>

449
00:19:38,211 --> 00:19:40,179
[woman 7]
<i>There was nightclub life</i>

450
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,516
<i>and there was the sexualization
of women's bodies.</i>

451
00:19:43,616 --> 00:19:46,419
<i>These things converged in a way
I think was really exciting.</i>

452
00:19:46,519 --> 00:19:51,023
And sort of made it acceptable,
in a way, for respectable men,

453
00:19:51,123 --> 00:19:53,560
um, to go watch go-go dancing

454
00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:55,228
<i>and to go see topless women.</i>

455
00:19:55,328 --> 00:19:58,097
[jazz rendition of
"The 'In' Crowd"]

456
00:20:02,835 --> 00:20:04,371
[Judy Mamou]
<i>Owner asked if I'd go topless.</i>

457
00:20:04,471 --> 00:20:06,473
<i>He paid me enough
and I went topless.</i>

458
00:20:06,573 --> 00:20:09,876
<i>I was the second girl to go
topless in North Beach</i>

459
00:20:09,976 --> 00:20:11,444
after Carol Doda.

460
00:20:11,544 --> 00:20:13,112
[Mazza]
<i>One of my dancer friends said,</i>

461
00:20:13,212 --> 00:20:14,714
<i>"Yes, everybody's
dancing topless.</i>

462
00:20:14,814 --> 00:20:16,549
<i>If you want a gig,
you have to dance topless."</i>

463
00:20:16,649 --> 00:20:18,618
<i>I couldn't go topless.</i>

464
00:20:18,718 --> 00:20:20,920
I mean, my parents
lived across the Bay

465
00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:23,323
and that would have been a...

466
00:20:23,823 --> 00:20:24,924
a mistake.

467
00:20:25,024 --> 00:20:26,459
Was it tough finding
a topless dancer

468
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:28,361
when topless first started
in North Beach?

469
00:20:28,895 --> 00:20:30,963
Yes, it was tough.
Now it's, you know...

470
00:20:31,531 --> 00:20:34,133
It's like deer,
they're in season. [giggles]

471
00:20:34,667 --> 00:20:36,403
[Derdevanis]
<i>Then everything went topless.</i>

472
00:20:36,503 --> 00:20:39,506
<i>- Anything you can think of.</i>
- [man 7] <i>You had Tipsy's,</i>

473
00:20:39,606 --> 00:20:43,175
<i>which was home of the topless
band, the Ladybirds.</i>

474
00:20:43,276 --> 00:20:46,679
<i>♪ Well, oh-oh-over and over ♪</i>

475
00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:49,181
<i>♪ I'll be a fool for you ♪</i>

476
00:20:49,282 --> 00:20:51,250
[man 7] <i>El Cid had
Gaye Spiegelman</i>

477
00:20:51,351 --> 00:20:52,919
<i>who was the mother of eight.</i>

478
00:20:53,019 --> 00:20:55,187
She had abs like a 19-year-old.

479
00:20:55,288 --> 00:20:57,457
[Derdevanis] <i>They had a topless
clam chowder place.</i>

480
00:20:57,557 --> 00:20:59,091
[reporter 8]
<i>Topless men's clothing store.</i>

481
00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:01,828
<i>Of course, it was the
saleswoman who was topless.</i>

482
00:21:01,928 --> 00:21:03,763
[Derdevanis] <i>They had topless
shoe shine.</i>

483
00:21:03,863 --> 00:21:05,064
<i>Can you just picture the...</i>

484
00:21:05,898 --> 00:21:08,501
Working... working the rag.

485
00:21:08,601 --> 00:21:12,505
When they opened up
the topless shoe shine stand,

486
00:21:12,605 --> 00:21:14,707
I said, "That's gonna bust
the fuckin' street."

487
00:21:15,308 --> 00:21:17,377
We ended up gettin' busted.

488
00:21:17,477 --> 00:21:19,812
[siren wailing]

489
00:21:19,912 --> 00:21:21,848
[reporter 8] <i>Then in April 1965,</i>

490
00:21:21,948 --> 00:21:24,216
<i>the city made an effort
to shut the clubs down</i>

491
00:21:24,317 --> 00:21:26,353
<i>with a series of raids
reminiscent</i>

492
00:21:26,453 --> 00:21:28,955
<i>of the Prohibition era
of the 1920s.</i>

493
00:21:29,055 --> 00:21:30,690
We're going to arrest
all the girls

494
00:21:30,790 --> 00:21:31,991
with their bosoms exposed

495
00:21:32,091 --> 00:21:33,626
for indecent exposure.

496
00:21:33,726 --> 00:21:36,162
We're gonna take the girls down
dressed like they are,

497
00:21:36,262 --> 00:21:39,566
so they can bring their street
clothes down with them.

498
00:21:39,666 --> 00:21:42,802
<i>Because we're gonna have to
take their costumes, you see?</i>

499
00:21:42,902 --> 00:21:44,404
[reporter 9] <i>What about girls
not in costume?</i>

500
00:21:44,504 --> 00:21:45,905
[Barca] <i>Uh, those can remain.</i>

501
00:21:46,005 --> 00:21:48,174
<i>Just those that are topless.</i>

502
00:21:48,908 --> 00:21:51,143
[We Five] <i>* Well, I woke up
this morning ♪</i>

503
00:21:52,278 --> 00:21:54,347
Bring your
regular street clothes.

504
00:21:54,447 --> 00:21:56,416
<i>♪ You were on my mind ♪</i>

505
00:21:56,516 --> 00:22:02,021
<i>♪ And you were on my mind... ♪</i>

506
00:22:02,121 --> 00:22:05,057
[reporter 9] <i>Captain, you've had
a pretty busy night and day.</i>

507
00:22:05,157 --> 00:22:08,027
<i>- Uh, is this going to continue?</i>
- Yes, it will continue.

508
00:22:08,127 --> 00:22:10,997
We'll make arrests where there
are any violations of the law.

509
00:22:11,097 --> 00:22:13,900
[reporter 9] <i>Do you feel this is
a violation of the law?</i>

510
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,402
Otherwise,
we wouldn't be doing it.

511
00:22:15,502 --> 00:22:17,336
We're making legal arrests,
in our opinion.

512
00:22:17,437 --> 00:22:19,539
I'm not worried because I feel
I haven't done anything wrong.

513
00:22:19,639 --> 00:22:21,207
I've done my job.

514
00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:24,043
And, uh, I feel that, uh,
I have no reason to be scared.

515
00:22:24,143 --> 00:22:25,578
You don't think
you've broken any law?

516
00:22:25,678 --> 00:22:27,246
No, I don't think so at all.

517
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:30,383
If you are out on bail by
the 4:30 show, will you be back?

518
00:22:30,483 --> 00:22:31,451
Yes, sir.

519
00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:32,852
- In costume?
- Yes, sir.

520
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,523
[Doda] <i>All the other topless
girls took it so lightly.</i>

521
00:22:36,623 --> 00:22:37,690
<i>They thought it was a big joke.</i>

522
00:22:37,790 --> 00:22:39,125
<i>Everybody enjoyed it,</i>

523
00:22:39,225 --> 00:22:40,593
<i>and they just thought
it was a big farce.</i>

524
00:22:40,693 --> 00:22:42,695
<i>But to me,
I took it very tragically.</i>

525
00:22:42,795 --> 00:22:44,697
<i>I have never been in jail
before in my life</i>

526
00:22:44,797 --> 00:22:46,766
<i>and I'm not used
to that sort of thing.</i>

527
00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:49,902
<i>And in my eyes,
I think I'm a very nice person,</i>

528
00:22:50,002 --> 00:22:52,472
<i>and for something like that
to happen, it was just, uh...</i>

529
00:22:52,572 --> 00:22:55,007
<i>incredible to me.
I couldn't believe it.</i>

530
00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:57,644
Gino, what time
was your Condor raided?

531
00:22:57,744 --> 00:22:59,311
About 10:00, 10:30.

532
00:22:59,412 --> 00:23:01,113
Did you have any warning at all?

533
00:23:02,081 --> 00:23:05,251
Seeing a man there with
a camera. That was about it.

534
00:23:05,351 --> 00:23:06,419
Was it a policeman, or...

535
00:23:06,519 --> 00:23:08,154
No, it was just a reporter.

536
00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:10,222
And, uh...

537
00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:14,594
He said, uh, "I guess there's
gonna be a raid."

538
00:23:15,595 --> 00:23:17,063
And what did you do?

539
00:23:17,163 --> 00:23:19,298
[scoffs] I didn't do nothin'.
I didn't believe it.

540
00:23:19,398 --> 00:23:23,235
[Pete Mattioli] <i>In our cell
was just Gino, Carol, and me.</i>

541
00:23:23,870 --> 00:23:26,473
They just fingerprinted us
and then let us go.

542
00:23:26,573 --> 00:23:28,475
What did the police
charge you with?

543
00:23:28,575 --> 00:23:29,742
I don't know.

544
00:23:30,342 --> 00:23:33,580
[extended note held by vocalist
during "You Were on My Mind"]

545
00:23:37,717 --> 00:23:40,787
[bright, up-tempo
guitar melody plays]

546
00:23:41,554 --> 00:23:45,424
Do you agree that the topless
should be banned in North Beach?

547
00:23:45,525 --> 00:23:47,794
Uh, no, I don't.

548
00:23:47,894 --> 00:23:50,196
I think a person, if, uh,
if they want to see it,

549
00:23:50,296 --> 00:23:52,965
- they have a right to see it.
- I don't go for it.

550
00:23:53,065 --> 00:23:55,768
I mean, I think the girls
could keep themselves covered.

551
00:23:55,868 --> 00:23:57,637
If it's a bare-chested man, fine.

552
00:23:57,737 --> 00:23:59,806
Broadway, as it now is

553
00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:01,774
with the various types
of entertainment

554
00:24:01,874 --> 00:24:03,075
that have moved in here,

555
00:24:03,776 --> 00:24:06,012
I would say it's somewhat
of a cesspool.

556
00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:08,648
You're speaking specifically
of the topless, are you not?

557
00:24:08,748 --> 00:24:10,349
Well, yes. What else?

558
00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:13,285
People are overdoing it
when they say,

559
00:24:13,385 --> 00:24:15,655
"Isn't that terrible
what's happening on Broadway?"

560
00:24:15,755 --> 00:24:17,624
It is not terrible.
It's wonderful.

561
00:24:17,724 --> 00:24:21,193
["The Stroll"
by The Diamonds plays]

562
00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:23,295
<i>♪ Come, let's stroll ♪</i>

563
00:24:24,564 --> 00:24:26,999
<i>♪ Stroll across the floor ♪</i>

564
00:24:30,336 --> 00:24:33,072
[man 10] <i>We've got the cleanest,
nicest area</i>

565
00:24:33,172 --> 00:24:35,708
up here in this North Beach
in the whole United States.

566
00:24:35,808 --> 00:24:37,343
And the more people
who congregate here

567
00:24:37,443 --> 00:24:38,678
on Friday and Saturday nights,

568
00:24:38,778 --> 00:24:40,747
there's no crime,
no problems, no nothing.

569
00:24:40,847 --> 00:24:43,349
What they're complaining about,
I don't know.

570
00:24:43,449 --> 00:24:45,384
Because everything
that's gone on here

571
00:24:45,484 --> 00:24:46,919
has gone on in other cities.

572
00:24:47,019 --> 00:24:49,188
But with a little
overtone of, uh,

573
00:24:49,288 --> 00:24:52,491
behind-the-barn sort of a
business. We don't do that here.

574
00:24:53,259 --> 00:24:55,562
Carol, how are you holding up
under all this?

575
00:24:55,662 --> 00:24:57,930
- I'm holding up. [laughs]
- [chuckles]

576
00:24:58,030 --> 00:25:01,834
Are you anxious to get back
to work in your normal costume?

577
00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:03,269
Yes, I certainly am.

578
00:25:04,003 --> 00:25:05,538
I intend to give
the police department

579
00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:07,273
and office of the mayor
an education.

580
00:25:07,373 --> 00:25:11,277
And before the last echoes of
last night's explosion is over,

581
00:25:11,377 --> 00:25:13,012
why, I think that, uh, they will

582
00:25:13,112 --> 00:25:15,948
<i>be a little more
in their proper places.</i>

583
00:25:16,515 --> 00:25:19,652
<i>♪ Now, turn around, baby ♪</i>

584
00:25:20,219 --> 00:25:23,055
<i>♪ Let's stroll once more ♪</i>

585
00:25:24,957 --> 00:25:28,227
[vocalist whistles rhythmically]

586
00:25:28,327 --> 00:25:30,663
[bawdy, sultry music continues]

587
00:25:40,673 --> 00:25:42,408
[music fades]

588
00:25:42,508 --> 00:25:43,776
[gavel bangs three times]

589
00:25:43,876 --> 00:25:45,878
If the prosecution
couldn't prove

590
00:25:45,978 --> 00:25:48,214
what the consensus
of opinion was

591
00:25:48,314 --> 00:25:51,283
throughout the city and county
of San Francisco,

592
00:25:51,383 --> 00:25:53,419
then they had failed
to prove a case.

593
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:56,656
- [cheering]
<i>- ♪ Whoa! ♪</i>

594
00:25:56,756 --> 00:25:59,659
["Sticks and Stones" by George
& Teddy and The Condors]

595
00:26:01,594 --> 00:26:03,229
[reporter 10]
<i>What was your reaction to it?</i>

596
00:26:03,329 --> 00:26:06,465
Well, I'm glad it's all over
and I hope this satisfies the...

597
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:08,400
people who put it up
for a test case,

598
00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:09,802
as the courts have decided.

599
00:26:09,902 --> 00:26:12,271
San Francisco was the first city
in the nation

600
00:26:12,371 --> 00:26:14,340
where topless entertainment
became legal.

601
00:26:14,874 --> 00:26:18,144
Ms. Doda may go back to her
piano where she belongs.

602
00:26:18,244 --> 00:26:19,746
Get outta this courtroom.

603
00:26:20,379 --> 00:26:21,681
<i>What are your plans, Ms. Doda?</i>

604
00:26:21,781 --> 00:26:23,515
<i>- Do you intend to...</i>
- Go back to the piano

605
00:26:23,616 --> 00:26:24,951
where I belong.

606
00:26:25,051 --> 00:26:26,518
<i>How much do you think
it would have cost</i>

607
00:26:26,619 --> 00:26:28,788
<i>to buy this kind of publicity
for the Condor?</i>

608
00:26:29,355 --> 00:26:31,090
I don't think we have
enough money to buy it.

609
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:32,925
It did good for North Beach.

610
00:26:33,025 --> 00:26:35,862
I mean, "These girls are so bad
they got arrested.

611
00:26:35,962 --> 00:26:37,697
<i>Let's go see 'em."</i>

612
00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:39,699
<i>♪ People talkin'
Tryin' to break us up ♪</i>

613
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:42,001
<i>♪ Why don't they let us be? ♪</i>

614
00:26:42,568 --> 00:26:44,303
<i>♪ Bricks and stones
May break my bones ♪</i>

615
00:26:44,403 --> 00:26:46,538
<i>♪ But talk don't bother me... ♪</i>

616
00:26:47,406 --> 00:26:49,441
[Pete Mattioli] <i>Lenny Bruce used
to get busted all the time.</i>

617
00:26:49,541 --> 00:26:52,679
<i>Every time he went on the stage
and faced the street west,</i>

618
00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:54,280
he got busted.

619
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:57,183
[Bruce] <i>San Francisco,
I got arrested for, uh...</i>

620
00:26:57,283 --> 00:26:58,885
<i>They said it was vernacular</i>

621
00:26:58,985 --> 00:27:02,454
<i>for a favorite homosexual
practice, a ten-letter word.</i>

622
00:27:02,554 --> 00:27:05,858
<i>It's weird how they manifested
that word as homosexual.</i>

623
00:27:05,958 --> 00:27:07,727
<i>'Cause I don't.
That relates to any...</i>

624
00:27:07,827 --> 00:27:09,161
<i>contemporary chick I know
or would know</i>

625
00:27:09,261 --> 00:27:10,863
<i>or would love or would marry.</i>

626
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:13,032
[Pete Mattioli] <i>He knew
he was gonna get busted</i>

627
00:27:13,132 --> 00:27:14,701
<i>but he did it anyway.</i>

628
00:27:15,301 --> 00:27:18,170
[Martin] <i>He was somebody
who skirted around obscenity</i>

629
00:27:18,270 --> 00:27:21,007
<i>as a way to make people
think harder</i>

630
00:27:21,107 --> 00:27:25,177
<i>about how our ideas about what
was obscene and what was decent</i>

631
00:27:25,277 --> 00:27:27,346
intersected with our racism,

632
00:27:27,446 --> 00:27:29,015
intersected with our sexism,

633
00:27:29,115 --> 00:27:31,117
intersected with our
anti-Semitism.

634
00:27:33,285 --> 00:27:35,521
<i>Lenny Bruce was
basically saying,</i>

635
00:27:35,621 --> 00:27:37,289
<i>"I can't do this anymore"</i>

636
00:27:38,424 --> 00:27:41,994
<i>as Carol Doda was winding up</i>

637
00:27:42,094 --> 00:27:43,963
<i>and coming into her power.</i>

638
00:27:45,297 --> 00:27:47,700
There was something different
about Carol Doda.

639
00:27:49,435 --> 00:27:50,903
Yes.

640
00:27:51,003 --> 00:27:52,271
Quite a bit different.

641
00:27:52,371 --> 00:27:54,841
[hydraulics whirring]

642
00:27:54,941 --> 00:27:56,075
[metallic thud]

643
00:27:56,809 --> 00:27:58,845
Is it all right
if I join you up here?

644
00:27:58,945 --> 00:28:00,446
Certainly.
The more, the merrier.

645
00:28:00,546 --> 00:28:04,583
[chuckles] Uh, this isn't
your usual costume, is it?

646
00:28:04,683 --> 00:28:07,053
Oh, well, I don't think so.
Do you?

647
00:28:07,153 --> 00:28:09,221
[chuckles]
Well, I've never seen your act.

648
00:28:10,022 --> 00:28:12,358
- You're missing something.
- [both laugh]

649
00:28:12,458 --> 00:28:14,526
Um, what is it actually?

650
00:28:14,626 --> 00:28:16,428
I mean, I know
it's a beautiful gown.

651
00:28:16,528 --> 00:28:19,231
But, um, what's the occasion?

652
00:28:19,331 --> 00:28:21,700
It's for the inaugural ball
in Sacramento.

653
00:28:21,801 --> 00:28:23,635
- You're going to the ball?
- Oh yes.

654
00:28:23,736 --> 00:28:27,206
[mid-tempo surf
rock music plays]

655
00:28:27,306 --> 00:28:31,110
[Martin] <i>Like any really
ambitious performer</i>

656
00:28:31,210 --> 00:28:33,212
<i>with a subversive agenda,</i>

657
00:28:33,312 --> 00:28:35,281
<i>that wasn't enough for her.</i>

658
00:28:35,381 --> 00:28:37,349
<i>She wanted to do more</i>

659
00:28:37,449 --> 00:28:40,820
<i>and she wanted to be more.</i>

660
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,023
[Judy Mamou] <i>If you've got
a bunch of girls topless,</i>

661
00:28:44,123 --> 00:28:47,226
what's gonna make them come
and see you instead of her?

662
00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:53,499
It is fascinating the degree
to which size is so important

663
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:56,102
<i>to the meaning of breasts.</i>

664
00:28:56,702 --> 00:28:59,405
[Judy Mamou] <i>Dave Rosenberg
was competitive with Carol.</i>

665
00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:01,874
<i>He wanted to make sure
nobody was gonna top her.</i>

666
00:29:02,408 --> 00:29:05,444
[woman 2] <i>He's actually the one
who convinced Carol.</i>

667
00:29:06,045 --> 00:29:07,914
<i>You know, "You wanna be a star?</i>

668
00:29:09,048 --> 00:29:10,649
We gotta get you pumped up."

669
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:14,686
We have this assumption
in American society today

670
00:29:14,787 --> 00:29:17,957
<i>that breasts have always been
erotic objects.</i>

671
00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:20,126
<i>But if you look
at these sex symbols</i>

672
00:29:20,226 --> 00:29:21,794
<i>of the early 20th century,</i>

673
00:29:21,894 --> 00:29:23,830
<i>you'll find they were famous
for their legs.</i>

674
00:29:23,930 --> 00:29:25,832
[soft drumming in cartoon]

675
00:29:25,932 --> 00:29:28,000
It's only after the war

676
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,270
that you have the rise,
so to speak,

677
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:36,542
<i>of the big bosom as something
that's very fetishized.</i>

678
00:29:36,642 --> 00:29:39,345
<i>Because prior to World War II,</i>

679
00:29:39,445 --> 00:29:42,348
<i>the majority of women would
breastfeed their children.</i>

680
00:29:42,448 --> 00:29:45,784
<i>And post-war,
there's a shift to formula.</i>

681
00:29:45,885 --> 00:29:48,387
<i>When a baby isn't
hanging off a breast,</i>

682
00:29:48,487 --> 00:29:50,857
there's a greater opportunity
to sexualize it.

683
00:29:50,957 --> 00:29:52,724
[Judy Mamou] <i>Why was
Marilyn Monroe so popular?</i>

684
00:29:52,825 --> 00:29:54,326
<i>Why was Jayne Mansfield
so popular?</i>

685
00:29:54,426 --> 00:29:55,862
<i>Why was Jane Russell
so popular?</i>

686
00:29:55,962 --> 00:29:57,663
Men want boobs.

687
00:29:58,564 --> 00:30:01,067
[Bobby Freeman] <i>* Betty Lou
Got a new pair of shoes ♪</i>

688
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,970
<i>♪ Betty Lou
Got a new pair of shoes ♪</i>

689
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:07,239
<i>♪ Betty Lou
Got a new pair of shoes ♪</i>

690
00:30:07,339 --> 00:30:09,075
<i>♪ Betty Lou
Got a new pair of shoes ♪</i>

691
00:30:09,175 --> 00:30:11,743
[Doda] <i>I came to work one day.
My boss said,</i>

692
00:30:11,844 --> 00:30:14,580
<i>"Oh, there's this doctor
that's giving these injections</i>

693
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,315
<i>that enlarge the breasts."</i>

694
00:30:16,415 --> 00:30:18,350
<i>He says,
"You should look into that."</i>

695
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:20,887
<i>And I thought to myself,
right then and there,</i>

696
00:30:20,987 --> 00:30:22,754
<i>"He's trying
to tell me something."</i>

697
00:30:23,189 --> 00:30:25,024
She always had
a cute little figure.

698
00:30:25,124 --> 00:30:26,325
There... I mean...

699
00:30:26,758 --> 00:30:29,128
her breasts were fine.
They were...

700
00:30:29,929 --> 00:30:31,397
She's small.

701
00:30:31,497 --> 00:30:34,066
- She was sort of flat-chested.
- She was flat-chested.

702
00:30:34,166 --> 00:30:37,603
We told her she had
two fried eggs for breasts.

703
00:30:37,703 --> 00:30:39,939
[Martin] <i>And so she embarked
on this course</i>

704
00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:42,041
<i>which was, at the time,
quite experimental.</i>

705
00:30:42,141 --> 00:30:44,243
[Derdevanis] <i>It was quite
a thing when she first did it</i>

706
00:30:44,343 --> 00:30:46,012
'cause we never heard
about this,

707
00:30:46,112 --> 00:30:48,580
you know, augmenting...
you know, breast augmentation.

708
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,216
Carol Doda and I
were getting silicone

709
00:30:50,316 --> 00:30:52,418
<i>at the same doctor
at the same time.</i>

710
00:30:52,518 --> 00:30:54,286
<i>Dr. Vincent Spano.</i>

711
00:30:54,386 --> 00:30:56,755
<i>He was the famous silicone
doctor in San Francisco.</i>

712
00:30:57,356 --> 00:30:59,591
[reporter 11] <i>You've taken
these silicone, uh...</i>

713
00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:02,161
[Doda] <i>Was wondering when
we were gonna get to that.</i>

714
00:31:02,995 --> 00:31:04,430
<i>Uh, yes, I have.</i>

715
00:31:05,064 --> 00:31:07,599
[reporter 11] <i>Did you have
any fear about these shots?</i>

716
00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:09,969
[Doda]
<i>No, I didn't at that time.</i>

717
00:31:10,069 --> 00:31:12,271
[reporter 11]
<i>You took them from a doctor?</i>

718
00:31:12,371 --> 00:31:13,772
[Doda] <i>Of course.</i>

719
00:31:13,872 --> 00:31:16,108
<i>Couldn't have taken them
from a veterinarian.</i>

720
00:31:16,808 --> 00:31:18,810
[Judy Mamou] <i>It was scary
when I first went in</i>

721
00:31:18,911 --> 00:31:20,947
and he came at me
with this long needle.

722
00:31:21,047 --> 00:31:22,414
I was like...

723
00:31:22,514 --> 00:31:25,617
<i>It depends on how bad
you want something.</i>

724
00:31:25,717 --> 00:31:27,053
<i>You want something bad enough,</i>

725
00:31:27,153 --> 00:31:28,820
<i>you're willing to pay
the price for it.</i>

726
00:31:29,355 --> 00:31:31,323
<i>She'd be in one room
and he'd be doing her</i>

727
00:31:31,423 --> 00:31:32,925
<i>and then he'd come in
and do me.</i>

728
00:31:33,025 --> 00:31:35,294
<i>We could hear each other
and he'd say, "Carol,</i>

729
00:31:35,394 --> 00:31:37,396
<i>I cannot give you
any more silicone.</i>

730
00:31:37,496 --> 00:31:39,765
<i>Your breasts
are going to explode.</i>

731
00:31:39,865 --> 00:31:41,300
<i>They're little.
They can't hold it."</i>

732
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,502
"No, come on, doctor.
Just one more."

733
00:31:43,602 --> 00:31:45,271
'Cause she wanted to be bigger
than everybody else.

734
00:31:45,371 --> 00:31:47,006
<i>The doctor's trying
to kick us out,</i>

735
00:31:47,106 --> 00:31:49,341
<i>saying, "Look, you two girls,
you're big enough.</i>

736
00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:51,243
<i>You don't need
any more silicone."</i>

737
00:31:52,044 --> 00:31:55,114
I made the comment
to Davey and Gino.

738
00:31:55,214 --> 00:31:57,649
<i>They knew what was going on.
I didn't.</i>

739
00:31:57,749 --> 00:31:59,418
<i>And I says,
"She's gettin' bigger,"</i>

740
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:02,154
<i>and they all say, "Oh, you're
just imagining things."</i>

741
00:32:02,721 --> 00:32:05,257
[Mazza] <i>Week after week, they
were getting bigger and bigger.</i>

742
00:32:05,357 --> 00:32:07,293
And there was a point
when they were just right,

743
00:32:08,027 --> 00:32:08,995
and then...

744
00:32:09,561 --> 00:32:11,397
eventually, they got huge.

745
00:32:12,464 --> 00:32:14,800
[Doda]
<i>If I was going to do this,</i>

746
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,502
<i>I was gonna do it in a big way.</i>

747
00:32:17,203 --> 00:32:22,808
She got 44 injections
of silicone into her breasts,

748
00:32:22,908 --> 00:32:26,012
<i>bumping her up from a B cup</i>

749
00:32:26,112 --> 00:32:27,646
<i>to a 44DD.</i>

750
00:32:27,746 --> 00:32:31,650
["Woman" by
The Beau Brummels plays]

751
00:32:35,721 --> 00:32:37,990
[Pete Mattioli]
<i>I went up to the dressing room</i>

752
00:32:38,090 --> 00:32:41,793
<i>and she was all black and blue
from the shots.</i>

753
00:32:41,893 --> 00:32:44,330
<i>So she puts pancake makeup on.</i>

754
00:32:44,430 --> 00:32:47,866
<i>And I asked her, I says,
"Carol, what are you doing?</i>

755
00:32:47,966 --> 00:32:50,169
<i>Do you know where that's going
in your body?"</i>

756
00:32:50,269 --> 00:32:53,105
She says, "Pete, it's my body.
Mind your own business."

757
00:32:53,939 --> 00:32:55,641
I says, "Okay," and I left.

758
00:32:56,342 --> 00:33:00,479
I'm sure she thought it was safe
and it was an opportunity

759
00:33:01,447 --> 00:33:03,715
to be something special.

760
00:33:03,815 --> 00:33:06,252
<i>But she was special
just being herself.</i>

761
00:33:06,952 --> 00:33:08,687
[Barbic] <i>I didn't want her
to do it at all.</i>

762
00:33:08,787 --> 00:33:11,857
I said, "Carol, you can't be
doing this. It's your health."

763
00:33:11,957 --> 00:33:13,092
She kind of didn't care.

764
00:33:13,192 --> 00:33:15,161
She was more interested
in entertaining.

765
00:33:15,261 --> 00:33:18,330
<i>And of course, Rosenberg was
pushing her to do this.</i>

766
00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:20,066
<i>She had nobody else.
She had nobody.</i>

767
00:33:20,166 --> 00:33:22,234
<i>She just had the public
to entertain.</i>

768
00:33:22,768 --> 00:33:24,536
<i>She was that lonely of a
person.</i>

769
00:33:25,604 --> 00:33:28,107
[Feinstein] <i>Your family say
anything? Were they worried?</i>

770
00:33:28,207 --> 00:33:29,875
[Doda] <i>No. You see, I, um...</i>

771
00:33:30,609 --> 00:33:32,911
<i>I've been on my own
for quite a while</i>

772
00:33:33,011 --> 00:33:35,181
<i>and, uh, my family
never has a say-so</i>

773
00:33:35,281 --> 00:33:36,915
<i>in matters pertaining to me.</i>

774
00:33:37,015 --> 00:33:38,217
[Feinstein] <i>A self-made woman.</i>

775
00:33:38,317 --> 00:33:40,586
[Doda] <i>Yes, you could say that.
Really.</i>

776
00:33:40,686 --> 00:33:42,888
<i>That's exactly how it is.</i>

777
00:33:42,988 --> 00:33:46,558
She wasn't open
about her past at all.

778
00:33:47,025 --> 00:33:49,961
She never talked about
her family.

779
00:33:50,062 --> 00:33:53,132
[Derdevanis] <i>I never saw her
family ever come into the club.</i>

780
00:33:53,232 --> 00:33:57,303
I worked 19 years on the street,
but most of it at the Condor.

781
00:33:57,403 --> 00:33:59,071
[Feinstein]
<i>Where you from, Carol?</i>

782
00:33:59,171 --> 00:34:02,074
[Doda] <i>I'm from around here,
Northern California.</i>

783
00:34:02,174 --> 00:34:04,943
[Feinstein] <i>As W.C. Fields once
said about Mae West,</i>

784
00:34:05,043 --> 00:34:07,045
<i>"I can see what's good.
Tell me the rest."</i>

785
00:34:07,146 --> 00:34:09,648
[Doda laughs]

786
00:34:09,748 --> 00:34:12,784
[Doda] <i>Well, I don't know what
Mae West answered, but, uh...</i>

787
00:34:12,884 --> 00:34:15,254
<i>there's not too much to tell
in that department.</i>

788
00:34:15,354 --> 00:34:16,622
[Feinstein] <i>All right.</i>

789
00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:18,757
[Barbic] <i>She did have
a rough childhood.</i>

790
00:34:18,857 --> 00:34:21,793
<i>Mother and father, they split
up when she was just a child,</i>

791
00:34:21,893 --> 00:34:23,462
<i>about three or four years old.</i>

792
00:34:23,562 --> 00:34:26,632
I'm not too sure who raised her
after. I guess her mother.

793
00:34:26,732 --> 00:34:28,267
I was in a Catholic school.

794
00:34:28,367 --> 00:34:30,102
I was too young to be there
but they accepted me

795
00:34:30,202 --> 00:34:34,005
because of the broken, you know,
marriage and everything.

796
00:34:34,573 --> 00:34:36,007
So I was about four years old

797
00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:39,478
and I lived at
this Catholic school.

798
00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:40,946
[woman 8] <i>I know she didn't feel</i>

799
00:34:41,046 --> 00:34:43,349
<i>she had a good relationship
with her mom.</i>

800
00:34:43,782 --> 00:34:46,152
<i>Her mom was an alcoholic.</i>

801
00:34:46,252 --> 00:34:48,086
[Barbic] <i>Her mother
was tough on her.</i>

802
00:34:48,187 --> 00:34:49,188
Really tough.

803
00:34:50,055 --> 00:34:51,557
She said beat her up and...

804
00:34:53,359 --> 00:34:55,527
that's why she left home
at an early age.

805
00:34:55,627 --> 00:34:57,829
She was very straightlaced.

806
00:34:57,929 --> 00:35:00,832
<i>At that time, she didn't drink,
she didn't do drugs.</i>

807
00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:02,868
<i>She was very guarded.</i>

808
00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:05,804
<i>It was hard to get to know her.</i>

809
00:35:05,904 --> 00:35:07,139
[Judy Mamou]
<i>She wasn't real friendly</i>

810
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:08,774
<i>with many of the girls
on the street.</i>

811
00:35:08,874 --> 00:35:11,042
<i>But she and I kind of
identified with each other.</i>

812
00:35:11,143 --> 00:35:14,480
<i>She'd do my hair, my makeup.
She was very talented.</i>

813
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:18,016
And she and I were like
the only two there all the time.

814
00:35:18,116 --> 00:35:19,485
<i>When she was on stage</i>

815
00:35:19,585 --> 00:35:21,853
<i>and she was being filmed
and doing publicity,</i>

816
00:35:21,953 --> 00:35:23,555
<i>she was happy.</i>

817
00:35:23,655 --> 00:35:26,325
<i>The rest of the time,
she was a loner and very sad.</i>

818
00:35:27,092 --> 00:35:29,995
[Feinstein] <i>You see Herb Caen's
item on you in</i> Ramparts?

819
00:35:30,095 --> 00:35:31,797
<i>- Somebody gave it to me.
- I heard about it.</i>

820
00:35:31,897 --> 00:35:33,532
<i>Told me about it at the garage
that I park.</i>

821
00:35:33,632 --> 00:35:35,133
[Feinstein]
<i>Have any comment on it?</i>

822
00:35:35,234 --> 00:35:37,002
[Doda] <i>No, he makes good copy.</i>

823
00:35:37,102 --> 00:35:39,037
- <i>He makes good copy...
- That's all.</i>

824
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,307
[Feinstein] <i>...and tasteless
jokes, I would say.</i>

825
00:35:41,407 --> 00:35:44,075
[Judy Mamou] <i>Herb Caen
was a very famous journalist</i>

826
00:35:44,176 --> 00:35:45,344
<i>in San Francisco.</i>

827
00:35:45,444 --> 00:35:46,645
<i>If you got
in Herb Caen's column,</i>

828
00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:47,846
<i>you really did something.</i>

829
00:35:47,946 --> 00:35:49,248
Everybody wanted
to be in his column.

830
00:35:49,348 --> 00:35:51,517
[light jazz melody plays]

831
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,022
[Thanash] <i>Dave Rosenberg,
he had a lot of juice.</i>

832
00:35:57,122 --> 00:36:00,226
He could get you in newspapers, columns.

833
00:36:00,326 --> 00:36:01,960
Davey and Herb
were really tight.

834
00:36:02,528 --> 00:36:04,963
<i>He always got something
in Herb Caen's column.</i>

835
00:36:05,664 --> 00:36:09,100
<i>Whenever Herb Caen needed pot,
he used get a hold of Davey</i>

836
00:36:09,201 --> 00:36:10,436
<i>and Davey'd get a hold of me</i>

837
00:36:10,536 --> 00:36:13,004
<i>and we'd get him a little pot.</i>
[laughs]

838
00:36:13,104 --> 00:36:15,006
[Feinstein]
<i>Can I read a line or two of it?</i>

839
00:36:15,106 --> 00:36:16,508
- [Doda] <i>If you wish.
- </i>  [Feinstein] <i>All right.</i>

840
00:36:16,608 --> 00:36:19,911
<i>"When Carol Doda
first began taking silicone...</i>

841
00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:22,881
<i>I reported the migratory
tendencies of the stuff,</i>

842
00:36:23,315 --> 00:36:25,251
<i>concluding with this
dolorous observation</i>

843
00:36:25,351 --> 00:36:26,818
<i>by a respected medic:</i>

844
00:36:26,918 --> 00:36:28,587
<i>'Miss Doda may yet wind up</i>

845
00:36:28,687 --> 00:36:31,523
<i>with the two largest kneecaps
in the world.'"</i>

846
00:36:31,623 --> 00:36:34,893
[Doda] <i>Well, I could, uh,
readily believe that statement</i>

847
00:36:34,993 --> 00:36:37,929
<i>if I was not, uh,
up to date on it.</i>

848
00:36:38,029 --> 00:36:40,366
<i>All these doctors have
all these different theories.</i>

849
00:36:40,466 --> 00:36:42,468
<i>You see, it's a very
controversial subject.</i>

850
00:36:42,568 --> 00:36:44,803
[Feinstein] <i>Mm-hm. You don't
mind? You're a good sport?</i>

851
00:36:44,903 --> 00:36:47,038
[Doda] <i>I think they have to
make their column interesting</i>

852
00:36:47,138 --> 00:36:48,774
<i>so if they need me
to make it interesting,</i>

853
00:36:48,874 --> 00:36:50,175
<i>I must be pretty important.</i>

854
00:36:50,642 --> 00:36:52,944
She's fabulous.
She's complicated.

855
00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:55,647
<i>We didn't need another
Betty Friedan</i>

856
00:36:55,747 --> 00:36:58,417
<i>to tell us about
"the problem without a name."</i>

857
00:36:58,517 --> 00:37:00,719
<i>Carol Doda shot up her breasts</i>

858
00:37:00,819 --> 00:37:03,755
<i>and she showed us that there
was a problem without a name.</i>

859
00:37:03,855 --> 00:37:07,125
<i>The problem was ridiculous
double standards about women</i>

860
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,727
<i>and objectification.</i>

861
00:37:08,827 --> 00:37:11,096
<i>You could say, "Oh, look at
her,</i>

862
00:37:11,196 --> 00:37:13,532
<i>submitting to the male gaze,</i>

863
00:37:14,065 --> 00:37:17,403
being a Barbie doll on
steroids." Yeah, no kidding.

864
00:37:17,503 --> 00:37:20,572
<i>It was almost like Carol Doda
was saying,</i>

865
00:37:20,672 --> 00:37:23,074
<i>"My body is the art</i>

866
00:37:23,174 --> 00:37:25,577
<i>and the performance
is going to go on."</i>

867
00:37:25,677 --> 00:37:29,348
[Bobby Freeman] <i>* Come on
All you surfers, grab a girl ♪</i>

868
00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:31,283
[Martin] <i>"And if my route
to success</i>

869
00:37:31,383 --> 00:37:34,620
<i>is the male gaze
and objectification,</i>

870
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:36,187
<i>I'm gonna fuck it up.</i>

871
00:37:36,288 --> 00:37:37,656
<i>I'm gonna go all the way."</i>

872
00:37:37,756 --> 00:37:38,857
<i>♪ Come on, baby ♪</i>

873
00:37:38,957 --> 00:37:40,359
<i>♪ Woo-woo ♪</i>

874
00:37:40,459 --> 00:37:42,528
<i>- ♪ Come on, baby ♪
- ♪ Woo-woo ♪</i>

875
00:37:42,628 --> 00:37:47,265
The key thing is that women
are the object of male gazes

876
00:37:47,366 --> 00:37:50,969
<i>and the male gaze is dominant
and it is a form of power.</i>

877
00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:55,607
<i>So women grow up
learning to perceive themselves</i>

878
00:37:55,707 --> 00:37:57,309
<i>through the male gaze</i>

879
00:37:57,409 --> 00:38:00,446
<i>and men don't.</i>

880
00:38:00,546 --> 00:38:02,013
[woman 9] <i>People would say,</i>

881
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:04,049
<i>"Oh, that's such a demeaning
thing you're doing."</i>

882
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:07,353
Well... [laughs]

883
00:38:07,453 --> 00:38:08,854
"If I'm not doing it,
somebody else,

884
00:38:08,954 --> 00:38:10,889
and look at all the money
I'm making.

885
00:38:10,989 --> 00:38:12,558
<i>What's the big deal?"</i>

886
00:38:12,658 --> 00:38:15,394
<i>It was great. Here I am,
a woman. "Give me your money."</i>

887
00:38:15,961 --> 00:38:18,564
[Williams] <i>On the one hand,
Carol Doda took the male gaze</i>

888
00:38:18,664 --> 00:38:20,666
<i>and twisted it
to her own benefit,</i>

889
00:38:20,766 --> 00:38:22,868
<i>and she did well by that.</i>

890
00:38:22,968 --> 00:38:24,803
<i>But I think what
she couldn't have anticipated</i>

891
00:38:24,903 --> 00:38:28,173
<i>is the legacy that she would
leave on women to come</i>

892
00:38:28,273 --> 00:38:32,344
who then felt that they needed
to live up to this male gaze

893
00:38:32,444 --> 00:38:35,747
which had been sort of enhanced
and exaggerated

894
00:38:35,847 --> 00:38:38,350
by the presence
of these large breasts.

895
00:38:38,450 --> 00:38:41,353
<i>It's a very particular lens
through which to see beauty</i>

896
00:38:41,453 --> 00:38:43,422
<i>and through which
to see sexuality</i>

897
00:38:43,522 --> 00:38:45,524
<i>that's ultimately
been very limiting</i>

898
00:38:45,624 --> 00:38:49,327
and has led to some serious
body dysmorphia,

899
00:38:49,428 --> 00:38:51,463
uh, in women to follow.

900
00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:54,500
[Thornton] <i>There's no question
in my mind that</i>

901
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,868
<i>the unequal division between</i>

902
00:38:56,968 --> 00:39:00,071
<i>the female dancer
and the male viewer</i>

903
00:39:00,606 --> 00:39:02,908
<i>and the transaction
of the money involved...</i>

904
00:39:03,008 --> 00:39:08,113
<i>Topless clubs are a reflection
of a patriarchal society.</i>

905
00:39:08,213 --> 00:39:10,449
But that doesn't mean there
aren't individual women

906
00:39:10,549 --> 00:39:14,386
who may very well find a very
strong sense of empowerment

907
00:39:14,486 --> 00:39:17,055
<i>for themselves
in those environments.</i>

908
00:39:17,155 --> 00:39:20,258
[sensual jazz
piano melody plays]

909
00:39:26,297 --> 00:39:28,400
[Schildknecht] <i>My fantasy
was to be a stripper.</i>

910
00:39:29,668 --> 00:39:31,202
<i>It's just kind of exciting</i>

911
00:39:31,302 --> 00:39:32,904
<i>and here,
you got all the lights</i>

912
00:39:33,004 --> 00:39:35,974
and people are watching you
like you're really important.

913
00:39:36,074 --> 00:39:37,809
And just kind of a good feeling.

914
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:41,112
<i>I don't know if every girl
has that fantasy.</i>

915
00:39:41,212 --> 00:39:42,681
<i>Maybe not. But I did.</i>

916
00:39:43,248 --> 00:39:45,250
<i>I've always been a free spirit,
I think.</i>

917
00:39:46,317 --> 00:39:48,119
<i>So I moved into San Francisco</i>

918
00:39:48,219 --> 00:39:51,757
<i>in a hotel above the Trieste
coffee shop there.</i>

919
00:39:56,595 --> 00:39:58,163
<i>I was just calling up
every place</i>

920
00:39:58,263 --> 00:40:01,099
<i>and eventually
somebody would need a stripper.</i>

921
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:02,568
<i>'Cause if I would have
auditioned,</i>

922
00:40:02,668 --> 00:40:04,069
<i>they would have never hired me.</i>

923
00:40:04,169 --> 00:40:07,473
<i>I had legs,
but I'm kind of flat-chested.</i>

924
00:40:08,106 --> 00:40:09,908
<i>But I still wanted to do it.</i>

925
00:40:10,542 --> 00:40:12,177
<i>I would wait until
they were desperate,</i>

926
00:40:12,277 --> 00:40:14,079
<i>when they really
needed somebody.</i>

927
00:40:14,179 --> 00:40:15,747
<i>And before they saw me, right?</i>

928
00:40:15,847 --> 00:40:17,082
They were desperate.

929
00:40:17,182 --> 00:40:19,651
And then I would do
one set at one place

930
00:40:19,751 --> 00:40:21,219
and then they'd get rid of me.

931
00:40:21,853 --> 00:40:24,656
<i>So I'd call up another place,
like the Condor,</i>

932
00:40:24,756 --> 00:40:26,324
<i>and I'd go, "Need a stripper?</i>

933
00:40:26,424 --> 00:40:30,462
<i>My name's Sharon. I danced
at the El Cid last night."</i>

934
00:40:30,562 --> 00:40:31,930
<i>If I said I was Mary Ann,
they'd go,</i>

935
00:40:32,030 --> 00:40:33,298
<i>"Oh, no. Don't want you."</i>

936
00:40:33,398 --> 00:40:35,433
<i>I was Sharon one night,
Judy the next.</i>

937
00:40:35,534 --> 00:40:37,703
<i>I think I danced at every club.</i>

938
00:40:37,803 --> 00:40:39,805
But just once. [laughs]

939
00:40:41,473 --> 00:40:43,108
<i>You know,
they were selling boobs.</i>

940
00:40:43,742 --> 00:40:46,545
<i>And here they have this girl
up there with no boobs.</i>

941
00:40:46,645 --> 00:40:49,047
Boo. They didn't want
to see that.

942
00:40:50,115 --> 00:40:51,550
[Martin] <i>The word "exploitation"</i>

943
00:40:51,650 --> 00:40:54,185
<i>is really important to look at
and pick apart.</i>

944
00:40:54,285 --> 00:40:56,054
<i>It's usually used in two ways.</i>

945
00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:58,389
One, feminists who believe

946
00:40:58,490 --> 00:41:01,026
that it's not possible for
a woman to be a sex worker

947
00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:02,628
or an adult performer

948
00:41:02,728 --> 00:41:07,733
<i>without being inherently,
fundamentally exploited</i>

949
00:41:07,833 --> 00:41:09,968
<i>by the patriarchy,
by the male gaze.</i>

950
00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:12,170
<i>Then there's a counter argument
to that which is,</i>

951
00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:16,207
<i>these women are leveraging it
and making money.</i>

952
00:41:16,808 --> 00:41:19,077
[Mazza] <i>Exploit... Of course
we were all exploited.</i>

953
00:41:19,177 --> 00:41:23,048
<i>We were in our little leotards
and serving cocktails</i>

954
00:41:23,148 --> 00:41:25,183
<i>and Carol's up there
being topless.</i>

955
00:41:25,283 --> 00:41:28,353
<i>I mean, in a way,
you could call it exploitation.</i>

956
00:41:28,453 --> 00:41:31,489
But... that's how
we look at it now.

957
00:41:32,257 --> 00:41:34,893
I think in those days
it was just a job.

958
00:41:35,694 --> 00:41:37,328
<i>I don't think
she felt exploited.</i>

959
00:41:37,428 --> 00:41:39,230
<i>I think she loved what she did.</i>

960
00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:40,732
<i>She wanted to be a dancer,</i>

961
00:41:40,832 --> 00:41:42,934
<i>she wanted to be on stage,
and she was.</i>

962
00:41:43,569 --> 00:41:46,905
How do you feel now
being a sex symbol?

963
00:41:47,005 --> 00:41:49,174
<i>You didn't feel that you were
prostituting yourself</i>

964
00:41:49,274 --> 00:41:51,677
by going topless?

965
00:41:51,777 --> 00:41:54,946
No, because you could prostitute
yourself with your brain,

966
00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:56,848
with anything,
any part of your body.

967
00:41:56,948 --> 00:41:59,250
Uh, your breasts
are just another part.

968
00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:04,222
I really wanna know what you
think of the Broadway scene

969
00:42:04,322 --> 00:42:06,124
and sex today.

970
00:42:06,224 --> 00:42:07,893
Do you think
this is a good step forward?

971
00:42:07,993 --> 00:42:09,961
Has this sort of cleaned up

972
00:42:10,061 --> 00:42:12,598
a lot of the puritanical
hang-ups that we had?

973
00:42:12,698 --> 00:42:13,765
Do you see it as healthy?

974
00:42:13,865 --> 00:42:16,067
So many people in America today

975
00:42:16,735 --> 00:42:18,536
do not have

976
00:42:18,637 --> 00:42:22,240
the, uh, imagination for sex.

977
00:42:22,340 --> 00:42:25,476
To have sex, you have to have
something in your mind first.

978
00:42:25,577 --> 00:42:27,378
You have to have something
in your imagination.

979
00:42:27,478 --> 00:42:29,981
I give them a fantasy,
which people need.

980
00:42:30,081 --> 00:42:32,751
[barker] <i>The lovely Carol Doda
on stage here tonight!</i>

981
00:42:32,851 --> 00:42:36,588
["Cellophane Woman"
by Sopwith Camel plays]

982
00:42:38,189 --> 00:42:41,727
[McGovern]
<i>Carol was a seductive stripper.</i>

983
00:42:41,827 --> 00:42:42,894
[Martini] <i>Like a star.</i>

984
00:42:43,862 --> 00:42:45,230
<i>You know? Had an attitude.</i>

985
00:42:45,997 --> 00:42:47,866
<i>You don't wanna go up there
and be meek.</i>

986
00:42:48,499 --> 00:42:50,068
<i>Gotta show 'em what you got.</i>

987
00:42:51,703 --> 00:42:53,004
[McGovern] <i>She was funny.</i>

988
00:42:53,104 --> 00:42:55,774
<i>She had a very comedic
sense of humor.</i>

989
00:42:55,874 --> 00:42:58,677
<i>She was really good
at getting to audiences.</i>

990
00:42:58,777 --> 00:43:00,111
<i>♪ She don't know nothin' ♪</i>

991
00:43:00,211 --> 00:43:01,680
<i>♪ Thinks there's nothin'
she don't know ♪</i>

992
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:03,014
<i>♪ She thinks she's
where it's at ♪</i>

993
00:43:03,114 --> 00:43:05,116
<i>♪ In that one spot
she never left ♪</i>

994
00:43:05,216 --> 00:43:06,584
<i>♪ She spends all of her time ♪</i>

995
00:43:06,685 --> 00:43:08,586
<i>♪ Tryin' to prove it
to herself now ♪</i>

996
00:43:10,455 --> 00:43:12,257
<i>♪ Well ♪</i>

997
00:43:12,357 --> 00:43:17,428
<i>♪ I don't want no woman
wrapped up in cellophane... ♪</i>

998
00:43:17,528 --> 00:43:19,130
[Derdevanis]
<i>Wasn't just a performance.</i>

999
00:43:19,230 --> 00:43:20,699
<i>It was an interaction
with the crowd.</i>

1000
00:43:20,799 --> 00:43:22,533
[Doda] <i>It's an escape
for a little while.</i>

1001
00:43:22,634 --> 00:43:24,335
<i>'Cause everybody has problems.</i>

1002
00:43:24,435 --> 00:43:25,871
<i>If I can alleviate them
of their problems</i>

1003
00:43:25,971 --> 00:43:27,438
<i>for a few moments,</i>

1004
00:43:27,538 --> 00:43:28,774
<i>that's the greatest gift
in the world</i>

1005
00:43:28,874 --> 00:43:30,709
<i>that I can give to somebody.</i>

1006
00:43:32,778 --> 00:43:36,214
She reminded me of Mae West.

1007
00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:41,853
Well, it's better to be
looked over than overlooked.

1008
00:43:41,953 --> 00:43:46,124
[reporter 12]

1009
00:43:46,224 --> 00:43:48,059
Oh, just that
they measure up right.

1010
00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:50,996
[laughter]

1011
00:43:53,098 --> 00:43:55,801
What would be the proper
measurements for a topless girl?

1012
00:43:55,901 --> 00:43:57,135
Well, I don't know.

1013
00:43:57,235 --> 00:43:58,804
I mean, myself,
I never know my own.

1014
00:43:58,904 --> 00:44:01,572
I expand with... the weather.

1015
00:44:01,673 --> 00:44:04,309
[Father Riley] <i>I understand you
were just honored nationally.</i>

1016
00:44:04,409 --> 00:44:07,813
[Doda] <i>Yeah, hidden assets.
Business Person of the Year.</i>

1017
00:44:07,913 --> 00:44:09,480
<i>But I think they made a
mistake.</i>

1018
00:44:09,580 --> 00:44:12,050
<i>It should have been Business
Persons of the Year.</i>

1019
00:44:12,150 --> 00:44:13,752
I didn't get the award.

1020
00:44:13,852 --> 00:44:15,186
[whispers] But they did.
You know?

1021
00:44:15,286 --> 00:44:17,155
- [laughs]
- So I just went along with them

1022
00:44:17,255 --> 00:44:19,624
to Boston to accept this award.

1023
00:44:20,158 --> 00:44:25,330
[laughs] Carol, what makes
you go? Is it-- You know,

1024
00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:28,366
they say that money or power
or prestige are the three big--

1025
00:44:28,466 --> 00:44:29,935
Oh, I know that.

1026
00:44:30,035 --> 00:44:32,337
- I... No, it's, uh, insecurity.
<i>- What is it for you?</i>

1027
00:44:32,437 --> 00:44:34,105
[laughing]

1028
00:44:34,205 --> 00:44:36,407
<i>- Is it really?</i>
- Vitamins and insecurity.

1029
00:44:36,507 --> 00:44:37,976
<i>But...</i> [laughs]

1030
00:44:38,944 --> 00:44:40,011
That's marvelous.

1031
00:44:40,111 --> 00:44:41,913
[mellow, sultry music plays]

1032
00:44:42,013 --> 00:44:44,615
<i>Carol, where do you see
yourself in 20, 30 years?</i>

1033
00:44:44,716 --> 00:44:46,184
<i>- For what?
- The whole life of--</i>

1034
00:44:46,284 --> 00:44:48,720
I see myself as an entertainer

1035
00:44:48,820 --> 00:44:50,889
in many different fields
of entertainment.

1036
00:44:50,989 --> 00:44:52,523
<i>I feel I would be stagnant</i>

1037
00:44:52,623 --> 00:44:54,860
<i>if I was just one thing
all the time.</i>

1038
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,595
[music continues]

1039
00:45:02,133 --> 00:45:04,635
[Vicious] <i>One day, I decided
to go to the Garden of Eden</i>

1040
00:45:04,736 --> 00:45:07,238
and there was a sign, "Batman."

1041
00:45:07,338 --> 00:45:09,474
And I was like, "Oh, wow,
this is gonna be cool."

1042
00:45:09,574 --> 00:45:10,776
<i>That's when I met Jimi.</i>

1043
00:45:10,876 --> 00:45:13,611
<i>Jimi and Tara
were the main act.</i>

1044
00:45:14,479 --> 00:45:16,481
Went home one night
and I was watching television

1045
00:45:16,581 --> 00:45:20,618
<i>and I saw this woman doing
a voodoo dance with snakes.</i>

1046
00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:22,120
I said, "I can do that."

1047
00:45:22,587 --> 00:45:24,289
I was terrified of snakes.

1048
00:45:24,389 --> 00:45:27,125
She go into the pet store
and want a boa constrictor.

1049
00:45:27,859 --> 00:45:30,295
[Judy Mamou] <i>I just kept
getting bigger and bigger</i>

1050
00:45:30,395 --> 00:45:34,165
<i>and I ended up with
a seven-foot anaconda</i>

1051
00:45:34,265 --> 00:45:36,267
<i>which was as big around
as my leg.</i>

1052
00:45:36,367 --> 00:45:38,669
[Jimi] <i>One morning, I'm getting
up and all of a sudden,</i>

1053
00:45:38,770 --> 00:45:40,271
<i>"Jimi, Jimi! Come and help me!"</i>

1054
00:45:40,371 --> 00:45:42,073
She's got this thing
started around her

1055
00:45:42,173 --> 00:45:44,242
and got this snake by the neck

1056
00:45:44,342 --> 00:45:47,445
and it's got its mouth open...
[hisses]

1057
00:45:47,545 --> 00:45:49,147
<i>This woman was brave.</i>

1058
00:45:49,781 --> 00:45:53,651
[Judy Mamou] <i>I had 120 pounds
of snakes on me at one time.</i>

1059
00:45:53,751 --> 00:45:55,653
Then I decided
I needed a monkey.

1060
00:45:56,287 --> 00:45:57,555
Oh, please.

1061
00:45:57,856 --> 00:46:00,025
[Judy Mamou] <i>My monkey's name
was Miss Troubles</i>

1062
00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:01,993
<i>and she'd have
a little costume on.</i>

1063
00:46:02,093 --> 00:46:04,029
<i>If I had a sequined outfit,
she'd have one.</i>

1064
00:46:04,129 --> 00:46:05,897
<i>She would just sit on my arm</i>

1065
00:46:05,997 --> 00:46:08,299
<i>and play with my boob,
and people loved her.</i>

1066
00:46:08,399 --> 00:46:10,201
[imitates chittering
of a monkey]

1067
00:46:10,301 --> 00:46:12,703
And put a diaper on it
to keep it from messing.

1068
00:46:12,804 --> 00:46:14,439
<i>But that was her baby.</i>

1069
00:46:14,539 --> 00:46:17,275
[Judy] <i>We billed her as the
world's only topless monkey.</i>

1070
00:46:17,909 --> 00:46:21,479
<i>And then I decided I wanted
to do a fire act.</i>

1071
00:46:21,579 --> 00:46:24,182
[Jimi Mamou] <i>She saw a guy
in the streets doing the fire.</i>

1072
00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:25,683
<i>She said,
"Teach me how to do that."</i>

1073
00:46:25,783 --> 00:46:28,019
[blows air] <i>She'd shoot out fire
from her mouth.</i>

1074
00:46:28,753 --> 00:46:30,221
<i>Said, "Girl, what's up
with you?"</i>

1075
00:46:30,321 --> 00:46:33,892
[laughs] "Are you from heaven
or hell? What is this?"

1076
00:46:33,992 --> 00:46:35,927
<i>Fire, snake, a monkey.</i>

1077
00:46:36,461 --> 00:46:38,729
<i>But she drew crowds
by the thousands.</i>

1078
00:46:38,830 --> 00:46:40,498
<i>They came in,
night after night.</i>

1079
00:46:40,598 --> 00:46:43,634
[The Orlons]
<i>♪ Wah, wah-a-watusi ♪</i>

1080
00:46:43,734 --> 00:46:46,204
[bright, energetic music plays]

1081
00:46:46,304 --> 00:46:48,907
<i>♪ Come on and take a chance ♪</i>

1082
00:46:49,007 --> 00:46:51,076
<i>♪ And get-a
with this dance... ♪</i>

1083
00:46:51,676 --> 00:46:53,678
[Faulknor] <i>North Beach
put millions of dollars</i>

1084
00:46:53,778 --> 00:46:55,713
<i>in the coffers of the city.</i>

1085
00:46:55,813 --> 00:46:58,349
If you have a sales convention,
I'll guarantee you sales guys,

1086
00:46:58,449 --> 00:47:01,052
they wanna go to San Francisco.
"We wanna see this topless."

1087
00:47:01,152 --> 00:47:05,323
<i>And synonymous with the word
"topless" was Carol.</i>

1088
00:47:05,423 --> 00:47:07,558
You've made a pretty good name
for this place in North Beach.

1089
00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:09,760
You ever plan on touring
with your act or anything?

1090
00:47:09,861 --> 00:47:12,063
Oh, I plan on...

1091
00:47:12,163 --> 00:47:13,731
spreading myself out.

1092
00:47:14,599 --> 00:47:17,168
[reporter 13] <i>Been receiving
a lot of mail from Vietnam.</i>

1093
00:47:17,268 --> 00:47:19,170
- That's right.
<i>- How'd they get your picture?</i>

1094
00:47:19,270 --> 00:47:21,940
Well, uh, somehow, my picture

1095
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,741
got into <i>Stars and Stripes</i> .

1096
00:47:23,841 --> 00:47:25,510
[reporter 13]
<i>You answer all of them?</i>

1097
00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:27,312
[Doda] <i>Oh yes,
I have writer's cramp.</i>

1098
00:47:28,479 --> 00:47:29,747
[reporter 13] <i>I talked with her</i>

1099
00:47:29,847 --> 00:47:31,216
<i>about some of her
16,000 letters</i>

1100
00:47:31,316 --> 00:47:32,450
<i>from overseas.</i>

1101
00:47:33,484 --> 00:47:35,286
This one says, "Dear Miss Doda.

1102
00:47:35,386 --> 00:47:38,023
Let me just say that I enjoyed
your act so much.

1103
00:47:38,123 --> 00:47:40,391
I would like to remember you
when I'm overseas.

1104
00:47:40,491 --> 00:47:43,394
Would you be so kind as to
send me a picture of yourself?

1105
00:47:43,494 --> 00:47:46,397
It would help me so much.
Thank you. Love, Mike."

1106
00:47:46,497 --> 00:47:50,535
Does any of this mail contain
proposals, of marriage that is?

1107
00:47:50,635 --> 00:47:53,771
Uh, no. I'm not the type
they want to marry.

1108
00:47:55,006 --> 00:47:57,909
I'm just the type
they want to look at.

1109
00:47:58,009 --> 00:47:59,744
[reporter 13]
<i>They say every war generates</i>

1110
00:47:59,844 --> 00:48:02,247
<i>the kind of pinup girl
it deserves.</i>

1111
00:48:02,347 --> 00:48:05,483
<i>I mention this meaning
no disrespect to Miss Doda</i>

1112
00:48:05,583 --> 00:48:08,286
<i>or to the war in Vietnam.</i>

1113
00:48:08,386 --> 00:48:11,923
[Martin] <i>She had national
and international renown.</i>

1114
00:48:12,023 --> 00:48:14,759
[up-tempo surf rock beat plays]

1115
00:48:20,898 --> 00:48:22,733
[Jimi Mamou] <i>She blew
San Francisco wide open.</i>

1116
00:48:22,833 --> 00:48:24,002
<i>Internationally.</i>

1117
00:48:24,102 --> 00:48:26,104
People from around the world
would come

1118
00:48:26,204 --> 00:48:27,572
<i>to see Carol Doda.</i>

1119
00:48:28,006 --> 00:48:29,774
[Mazza] <i>Carol was the star.</i>

1120
00:48:29,874 --> 00:48:31,943
<i>Busloads of people drove up.</i>

1121
00:48:32,043 --> 00:48:33,344
It was huge.

1122
00:48:33,444 --> 00:48:35,947
The cars, people going
up and down the street.

1123
00:48:36,047 --> 00:48:37,782
<i>That was the place to go.</i>

1124
00:48:37,882 --> 00:48:41,752
<i>And you see the lights and
you're like, "Yes, Broadway!"</i>

1125
00:48:43,621 --> 00:48:45,690
When we first started
on Broadway,

1126
00:48:45,790 --> 00:48:47,592
you had the cream of the crop:

1127
00:48:47,692 --> 00:48:51,296
<i>movie stars, politicians,
professional athletes.</i>

1128
00:48:51,396 --> 00:48:55,466
Lew Alcindor came in and I come
with my tray and I see this.

1129
00:48:55,566 --> 00:48:56,834
I'm like... [gasps]

1130
00:48:56,934 --> 00:48:59,037
[bright jazz music plays]

1131
00:48:59,137 --> 00:49:01,106
[plays
"Flight of the Bumblebee"]

1132
00:49:01,206 --> 00:49:04,109
[Thanash] <i>He came in
with his mom to the Condor.</i>

1133
00:49:04,209 --> 00:49:07,445
<i>Oh, he was so famous
all over the world.</i>

1134
00:49:07,545 --> 00:49:09,514
The piano brought him in.

1135
00:49:09,614 --> 00:49:11,849
["Flight of the Bumblebee"
continues]

1136
00:49:16,187 --> 00:49:18,056
[Pete Mattioli] <i>There was this
one little table</i>

1137
00:49:18,156 --> 00:49:19,957
<i>that was sort of roped off.</i>

1138
00:49:20,058 --> 00:49:21,859
<i>Sat about eight people.</i>

1139
00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:24,729
<i>He'd always call, "Pete,
could I have that table?"</i>

1140
00:49:24,829 --> 00:49:26,331
I'd say, "You got it, Walter."

1141
00:49:26,431 --> 00:49:30,568
And that's the way it is,
Monday, September 2, 1963.

1142
00:49:30,668 --> 00:49:32,403
[woman 10] <i>When Andy Warhol
was in town,</i>

1143
00:49:32,503 --> 00:49:36,741
<i>he would always ask Carol
to be part of his entourage.</i>

1144
00:49:36,841 --> 00:49:39,077
<i>I was very impressed by that.</i>

1145
00:49:39,177 --> 00:49:42,147
<i>I'm like, "Oh, you get to go
out with Andy Warhol."</i>

1146
00:49:42,847 --> 00:49:46,817
And she was like, "Oh, Pamela,
you wouldn't like him."

1147
00:49:46,917 --> 00:49:48,686
I said, "What do you mean?"

1148
00:49:49,254 --> 00:49:50,521
"Because he never talks."

1149
00:49:50,621 --> 00:49:52,257
Aren't you gonna
say one word, Andy?

1150
00:49:52,357 --> 00:49:53,591
[no audible dialogue]

1151
00:49:53,691 --> 00:49:55,560
[Rome] " <i>He just wants
to record us.</i>

1152
00:49:55,660 --> 00:49:57,628
<i>So you wouldn't like him,
Pamela,</i>

1153
00:49:57,728 --> 00:49:59,730
<i>because he's very boring."</i>

1154
00:50:00,598 --> 00:50:03,601
[man 11] <i>Carol told me
the almost unknown fling</i>

1155
00:50:03,701 --> 00:50:05,203
<i>that she had for a while</i>

1156
00:50:05,303 --> 00:50:07,505
<i>with Frank Sinatra.</i>

1157
00:50:07,605 --> 00:50:09,707
<i>He would send his private plane</i>

1158
00:50:09,807 --> 00:50:11,709
<i>down to pick her up
in San Francisco</i>

1159
00:50:11,809 --> 00:50:14,079
<i>from Cal Neva casino and resort</i>

1160
00:50:14,179 --> 00:50:16,047
<i>where he was one of the owners.</i>

1161
00:50:16,147 --> 00:50:17,315
<i>She'd be walked through</i>

1162
00:50:17,448 --> 00:50:19,350
<i>to what's called
the Celebrity Room</i>

1163
00:50:19,450 --> 00:50:21,352
<i>when there was no one
in the main bar.</i>

1164
00:50:21,452 --> 00:50:25,756
Basically, it was your typical
trap door with a rug over it.

1165
00:50:25,856 --> 00:50:28,593
<i>A handler would lead her down
into tunnels</i>

1166
00:50:28,693 --> 00:50:30,361
<i>that went
in different directions.</i>

1167
00:50:30,461 --> 00:50:33,231
<i>It was set up so that gangsters</i>

1168
00:50:33,331 --> 00:50:35,032
<i>that were not allowed
to be around gambling</i>

1169
00:50:35,133 --> 00:50:36,234
<i>could get in and out.</i>

1170
00:50:36,334 --> 00:50:37,602
<i>And so Frank used it</i>

1171
00:50:37,702 --> 00:50:39,837
<i>to bring his girls
in and out of there.</i>

1172
00:50:40,405 --> 00:50:43,241
<i>She would be taken
to Frank's personal chalet</i>

1173
00:50:43,341 --> 00:50:44,742
<i>down by the lake.</i>

1174
00:50:44,842 --> 00:50:47,545
<i>She really had an affinity
for Frank.</i>

1175
00:50:47,645 --> 00:50:51,216
<i>She thought he was one of the
greatest men she'd ever met.</i>

1176
00:50:51,316 --> 00:50:53,251
She really dug Frank Sinatra.

1177
00:50:53,351 --> 00:50:55,186
He was like an idol to her.

1178
00:50:55,286 --> 00:50:59,056
<i>♪ 'Cause you make me feel
so young... ♪</i>

1179
00:50:59,157 --> 00:51:00,791
[Morse] <i>One thing
that she got a kick out of</i>

1180
00:51:00,891 --> 00:51:03,261
<i>was that Frank pictured himself</i>

1181
00:51:03,361 --> 00:51:06,497
<i>as being a really,
really macho man's man.</i>

1182
00:51:06,597 --> 00:51:10,601
<i>And he had this bald spot
which nobody knows about</i>

1183
00:51:10,701 --> 00:51:12,637
<i>because he always covered it
up.</i>

1184
00:51:12,737 --> 00:51:16,407
<i>He would actually have her
come in before he did a show</i>

1185
00:51:16,507 --> 00:51:17,908
<i>and give her some boot spray</i>

1186
00:51:18,008 --> 00:51:20,010
<i>to spray paint the bald spot
on his head</i>

1187
00:51:20,111 --> 00:51:22,012
<i>before he headed out
onto stage.</i>

1188
00:51:22,113 --> 00:51:24,849
When she told that story,
she just chuckled like crazy.

1189
00:51:24,949 --> 00:51:26,617
[holds ending note of song]

1190
00:51:26,717 --> 00:51:28,919
- [music ends]
- [applause]

1191
00:51:29,687 --> 00:51:32,757
[swelling, inspirational
melody plays]

1192
00:51:32,857 --> 00:51:34,492
[narrator] <i>At the western end
of the continent,</i>

1193
00:51:34,592 --> 00:51:36,727
<i>rising majestically
above the Pacific,</i>

1194
00:51:37,295 --> 00:51:39,330
<i>is a city constantly alive,</i>

1195
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:40,698
<i>full of anticipation,</i>

1196
00:51:40,798 --> 00:51:43,968
<i>exciting and beautiful:
San Francisco.</i>

1197
00:51:44,769 --> 00:51:47,638
<i>Where no matter who you are
or where you come from</i>

1198
00:51:47,738 --> 00:51:49,474
<i>or what you like to do,</i>

1199
00:51:50,107 --> 00:51:53,644
<i>something exciting and
wonderful and different</i>

1200
00:51:54,245 --> 00:51:56,281
<i>happens to you
in San Francisco.</i>

1201
00:51:56,381 --> 00:51:58,416
[music continues]

1202
00:52:02,787 --> 00:52:04,355
Have you seen
any of these shows?

1203
00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:07,192
- Yeah. They're really funny.
- Did you like it?

1204
00:52:07,292 --> 00:52:08,893
They were funny. [laughs]

1205
00:52:08,993 --> 00:52:10,995
The funniest part
was watching people.

1206
00:52:11,095 --> 00:52:12,230
The women turn away.

1207
00:52:12,330 --> 00:52:13,898
<i>They talk about recipes
and things</i>

1208
00:52:13,998 --> 00:52:15,666
<i>while their husbands
are looking up.</i>

1209
00:52:15,766 --> 00:52:17,335
Did you know
that we have shows here

1210
00:52:17,435 --> 00:52:19,870
where people make love
live on the stage?

1211
00:52:19,970 --> 00:52:22,540
- Uh, no, I didn't.
- Have you been to any of these?

1212
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,209
Not yet. We were just on our way

1213
00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:26,244
to walk around
a couple of these places

1214
00:52:26,344 --> 00:52:28,579
- to see what it was like.
- What do you expect to see?

1215
00:52:28,679 --> 00:52:30,348
Nudity. [giggles]

1216
00:52:30,448 --> 00:52:33,218
[reporter 8] <i>It wasn't that
Bay Area residents were prudes.</i>

1217
00:52:33,318 --> 00:52:35,186
<i>By this time,
they were quite blase</i>

1218
00:52:35,286 --> 00:52:37,555
<i>about the topless dance clubs
in North Beach.</i>

1219
00:52:37,655 --> 00:52:39,757
<i>But when one club offered
as an attraction</i>

1220
00:52:39,857 --> 00:52:42,993
<i>an interracial love dance,
that was too much.</i>

1221
00:52:43,093 --> 00:52:45,396
[Judy Mamou] <i>Gay 60's
was the name of the club</i>

1222
00:52:45,496 --> 00:52:47,732
<i>and they came to me
and they asked me</i>

1223
00:52:47,832 --> 00:52:50,000
if I would do an interracial
love dance.

1224
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:51,536
And I said yes.

1225
00:52:51,636 --> 00:52:53,871
[reporter 8] <i>The interracial
couple was busted.</i>

1226
00:52:53,971 --> 00:52:55,072
[reporter 14]
<i>Is it true you engaged</i>

1227
00:52:55,172 --> 00:52:56,374
<i>in a sex act during the act?</i>

1228
00:52:56,474 --> 00:52:57,708
What do you call a sex act?

1229
00:52:58,343 --> 00:53:00,578
<i>They arrested me. So what?
I still did it.</i>

1230
00:53:01,512 --> 00:53:03,448
<i>I wanted to do the topless,
I did the topless.</i>

1231
00:53:04,014 --> 00:53:06,217
<i>"You're not supposed to go
with a Black man." I did.</i>

1232
00:53:06,317 --> 00:53:07,952
You don't like it? I'm sorry.

1233
00:53:08,052 --> 00:53:09,186
It's my life.

1234
00:53:09,287 --> 00:53:11,222
I want to do it.
I'm gonna do it.

1235
00:53:11,322 --> 00:53:13,558
- ["Do the Jerk" by The Larks]
<i>- ♪ Come on, everybody ♪</i>

1236
00:53:13,658 --> 00:53:15,293
<i>♪ Come and get some soul ♪</i>

1237
00:53:15,393 --> 00:53:16,861
<i>♪ Do the jerk ♪</i>

1238
00:53:16,961 --> 00:53:18,095
<i>♪ Do the jerk... ♪</i>

1239
00:53:18,195 --> 00:53:19,430
[Judy Mamou]
<i>My mother had a breakdown</i>

1240
00:53:19,530 --> 00:53:21,332
<i>when I married Jimi. Oh my God.</i>

1241
00:53:21,799 --> 00:53:24,669
<i>My dad, who is Mexican,
disowned me.</i>

1242
00:53:26,871 --> 00:53:28,973
<i>And in San Francisco,
when we first met,</i>

1243
00:53:29,073 --> 00:53:30,541
<i>we couldn't drive
down the street.</i>

1244
00:53:30,641 --> 00:53:32,109
<i>The cop would pull us over.</i>

1245
00:53:32,677 --> 00:53:33,944
Bam-bam. Knock on the door.

1246
00:53:34,044 --> 00:53:35,946
About three policemen
at the door.

1247
00:53:36,481 --> 00:53:39,317
<i>They saw Judy in the bed and,
boy, they didn't like that.</i>

1248
00:53:39,417 --> 00:53:42,287
[Judy Mamou] <i>I was arrested
for vagrancy.</i>

1249
00:53:43,020 --> 00:53:45,790
<i>Vagrancy was a law that
if you didn't have a job,</i>

1250
00:53:45,890 --> 00:53:46,957
<i>you were a vagrant.</i>

1251
00:53:47,057 --> 00:53:48,659
<i>And they could arrest you.</i>

1252
00:53:48,759 --> 00:53:50,961
[Jimi Mamou] <i>They took her,
put her in jail.</i>

1253
00:53:51,061 --> 00:53:52,062
[Judy Mamou]
<i>It was a racist thing.</i>

1254
00:53:52,162 --> 00:53:53,464
<i>I stayed in a week or so.</i>

1255
00:53:53,564 --> 00:53:55,232
<i>- It was horrible.
- My heart was bleeding,</i>

1256
00:53:55,333 --> 00:53:58,803
<i>just thinking of her being
locked up in jail for nothing.</i>

1257
00:53:59,437 --> 00:54:02,139
<i>The bondsman says, "Jimi, don't
come into the court with her</i>

1258
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,609
<i>because the judge will throw
the books at her for sure."</i>

1259
00:54:04,709 --> 00:54:08,012
[chokes up] So she went...
she went in.

1260
00:54:08,112 --> 00:54:09,647
And the judge
gave her a lashing.

1261
00:54:10,180 --> 00:54:12,082
And says, "You get outta town.

1262
00:54:12,182 --> 00:54:13,784
<i>As long as that nigger's here,</i>

1263
00:54:13,884 --> 00:54:15,853
<i>you don't come back
into Santa Cruz."</i>

1264
00:54:15,953 --> 00:54:18,623
<i>Now, the judge is saying this.
Publicly.</i>

1265
00:54:18,723 --> 00:54:20,090
[gavel bangs three times]

1266
00:54:20,190 --> 00:54:22,092
[Schildknecht] <i>All of the clubs
were prejudiced</i>

1267
00:54:22,192 --> 00:54:24,028
<i>and didn't let
Black girls dance.</i>

1268
00:54:24,962 --> 00:54:26,997
Not until the late '80s.

1269
00:54:27,097 --> 00:54:28,499
But not many.

1270
00:54:29,133 --> 00:54:32,837
[Big Mama Thornton] <i>* Well,
I guess I'll start walking... ♪</i>

1271
00:54:33,871 --> 00:54:35,973
[Martini] <i>It was white and Black
when I was growing up.</i>

1272
00:54:36,541 --> 00:54:39,043
<i>If you liked Black music
and you were white,</i>

1273
00:54:39,577 --> 00:54:42,413
<i>then there were all kind of
names they'd be calling you.</i>

1274
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:46,784
George & Teddy were the first
popular interracial band

1275
00:54:46,884 --> 00:54:48,218
<i>in the area.</i>

1276
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:50,455
<i>♪ Hoppin' and poppin'
all night long ♪</i>

1277
00:54:50,555 --> 00:54:51,856
[Martini]
<i>They were great entertainers.</i>

1278
00:54:51,956 --> 00:54:53,324
<i>We had a great band.</i>

1279
00:54:53,424 --> 00:54:55,192
And it could never rise above...

1280
00:54:55,793 --> 00:54:59,296
The highest gig was
the old Caesar's Palace.

1281
00:54:59,397 --> 00:55:00,865
And a thousand bucks a week.

1282
00:55:00,965 --> 00:55:04,469
Man, that's like
20 grand a week now. You know?

1283
00:55:04,569 --> 00:55:07,938
I turned it down and made
ten dollars a night with Sly.

1284
00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:12,242
<i>I was the only funky white boy
around in San Francisco.</i>

1285
00:55:12,343 --> 00:55:14,011
<i>That's why Sly hired me.</i>

1286
00:55:14,979 --> 00:55:16,246
<i>Sly and the Family Stone</i>

1287
00:55:16,347 --> 00:55:18,315
<i>was the first interracial
pop group,</i>

1288
00:55:18,416 --> 00:55:20,585
<i>men and women
and different races,</i>

1289
00:55:21,486 --> 00:55:22,987
<i>that made it.</i>

1290
00:55:24,589 --> 00:55:29,159
<i>♪ Don't call me nigger,
whitey ♪</i>

1291
00:55:29,259 --> 00:55:33,330
<i>♪ Don't call me whitey,
nigger ♪</i>

1292
00:55:33,431 --> 00:55:34,765
[Martini]
<i>Those first road tours,</i>

1293
00:55:34,865 --> 00:55:36,567
<i>when we was driving
all over the country,</i>

1294
00:55:36,667 --> 00:55:38,769
<i>we got run outta towns.</i>

1295
00:55:38,869 --> 00:55:40,405
<i>We got chased out by police.</i>

1296
00:55:41,105 --> 00:55:44,041
<i>I was a white man
with long hair and a beard</i>

1297
00:55:44,141 --> 00:55:45,610
<i>in the Black band of people</i>

1298
00:55:45,710 --> 00:55:48,446
<i>that dressed weird,
looked weird,</i>

1299
00:55:48,546 --> 00:55:50,781
<i>and Sly also had
a white girlfriend.</i>

1300
00:55:52,550 --> 00:55:54,151
That's a death sentence.

1301
00:55:55,052 --> 00:55:57,254
Now if we can get you
to spell "Love" one time...

1302
00:55:57,354 --> 00:56:00,758
...who are the kind of
unlikely igniters

1303
00:56:00,858 --> 00:56:02,627
<i>of civil rights</i>

1304
00:56:02,727 --> 00:56:04,695
<i>and feminists and gay rights.</i>

1305
00:56:04,795 --> 00:56:06,964
<i>And I think Carol Doda
was one of them.</i>

1306
00:56:07,898 --> 00:56:09,967
<i>She changed our thinkings</i>

1307
00:56:10,067 --> 00:56:12,970
<i>about something as personal
and basic as nudity.</i>

1308
00:56:13,504 --> 00:56:16,807
<i>She was such a symbol
of progressiveness there</i>

1309
00:56:16,907 --> 00:56:20,478
<i>and what it was to be
a subversive San Franciscan.</i>

1310
00:56:20,578 --> 00:56:23,981
["Big Boy Pete" by George
& Teddy and the Condors plays]

1311
00:56:30,054 --> 00:56:31,656
<i>Her work basically said,</i>

1312
00:56:31,756 --> 00:56:35,926
<i>"Showing my body is a form
of fundamental, basic freedom."</i>

1313
00:56:36,627 --> 00:56:39,464
It was right in the thick
of the women's movement

1314
00:56:39,564 --> 00:56:41,632
<i>and these women genuinely felt</i>

1315
00:56:41,732 --> 00:56:43,468
<i>that they were pioneers.</i>

1316
00:56:43,568 --> 00:56:45,269
<i>That, "Goddammit,
this is my body</i>

1317
00:56:45,369 --> 00:56:46,904
<i>and if I want to show my
breasts to the world,</i>

1318
00:56:47,004 --> 00:56:49,139
<i>I'm gonna do it." Boom.</i>

1319
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,408
[mid-tempo surf
rock music plays]

1320
00:56:52,510 --> 00:56:55,145
In the new environment
of the future,

1321
00:56:55,580 --> 00:56:57,948
people will accept their bodies.

1322
00:56:58,048 --> 00:57:00,818
Clothes will be utilitarian,

1323
00:57:00,918 --> 00:57:03,087
organic, and minimal.

1324
00:57:03,187 --> 00:57:06,824
<i>There will be no more
squeamishness about nudity.</i>

1325
00:57:06,924 --> 00:57:10,394
<i>The body itself
will be beautiful.</i>

1326
00:57:11,529 --> 00:57:14,699
[McGovern] <i>It was easy to get
jobs dancing on Broadway.</i>

1327
00:57:14,799 --> 00:57:17,535
<i>I mean, basically all you
had to do was be young</i>

1328
00:57:17,635 --> 00:57:19,303
and willing
to take off your top.

1329
00:57:20,571 --> 00:57:24,441
<i>I moved to San Francisco
in 1967.</i>

1330
00:57:25,209 --> 00:57:29,113
<i>I met a couple of gals
who were dancing</i>

1331
00:57:29,213 --> 00:57:31,549
<i>in North Beach,
on Broadway Street.</i>

1332
00:57:31,649 --> 00:57:34,652
<i>They were young girls, my age.
We were in our early twenties.</i>

1333
00:57:34,752 --> 00:57:37,221
<i>And they were working
their way through college.</i>

1334
00:57:37,321 --> 00:57:41,325
<i>And one night, one of the girls
called me up and said, "Marsha,</i>

1335
00:57:41,425 --> 00:57:43,828
<i>one of our dancers didn't show.
Can you get over here?"</i>

1336
00:57:43,928 --> 00:57:46,797
And I said, "Oh my God,
are you kidding? I'm very shy!"

1337
00:57:46,897 --> 00:57:49,700
<i>"Oh, come on," they said,
"It's easy. It's no big deal.</i>

1338
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,235
<i>Nobody's gonna bother you.</i>

1339
00:57:51,335 --> 00:57:53,203
<i>It's fun because
we get to dance."</i>

1340
00:57:53,303 --> 00:57:55,673
<i>So I did it.
I can't believe I did it.</i>

1341
00:57:55,773 --> 00:57:57,675
["Don't Talk to Strangers"
by The Beau Brummels plays]

1342
00:57:57,775 --> 00:58:00,978
<i>For me, and the little other
hippie girls doing it,</i>

1343
00:58:01,078 --> 00:58:03,648
<i>it was a very innocent thing.</i>

1344
00:58:04,348 --> 00:58:09,654
<i>♪ Follow your
own beaten path... ♪</i>

1345
00:58:11,121 --> 00:58:12,590
[McGovern] <i>Summer of Love.</i>

1346
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:17,127
<i>I had my share of fun.
And I tried all the drugs.</i>

1347
00:58:17,928 --> 00:58:20,030
[Schildknecht] <i>Everybody was
having sex with everybody.</i>

1348
00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:21,666
So much fun.

1349
00:58:21,766 --> 00:58:23,934
We were all learning
different techniques

1350
00:58:24,034 --> 00:58:26,571
that we never
would have talked about before.

1351
00:58:26,671 --> 00:58:28,405
<i>It was all taboo</i>

1352
00:58:28,505 --> 00:58:29,940
<i>until the '60s.</i>

1353
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,842
[Thanash] <i>That was a free time.</i>

1354
00:58:31,942 --> 00:58:35,179
<i>That was a hippie time.
Free love. Dope.</i>

1355
00:58:35,279 --> 00:58:38,382
It was all going around
in a circle and we all loved it.

1356
00:58:38,482 --> 00:58:40,718
["Don't Talk to Strangers" ends]

1357
00:58:41,151 --> 00:58:42,853
[Martin] <i>Summer of Love?</i>

1358
00:58:42,953 --> 00:58:45,089
<i>You can say thank you to Carol
Doda, and you're welcome.</i>

1359
00:58:45,189 --> 00:58:48,392
'Cause she helped loosen up
our ideas about sexuality.

1360
00:58:48,492 --> 00:58:52,597
She was somebody that liberated
other women's minds.

1361
00:58:52,697 --> 00:58:55,633
Because the first time
I ever saw her,

1362
00:58:55,733 --> 00:58:57,968
<i>there was a picture of her,</i>

1363
00:58:58,068 --> 00:59:00,137
<i>and I saw that as a child</i>

1364
00:59:00,237 --> 00:59:03,373
<i>when I was, you know,
maybe 13 or something.</i>

1365
00:59:03,473 --> 00:59:07,745
And I don't know, it just made
an impression in my mind.

1366
00:59:07,845 --> 00:59:10,080
<i>And it was like,
"Wow. How free."</i>

1367
00:59:10,180 --> 00:59:13,017
["Sleep Walk"
by The Ventures plays]

1368
00:59:31,669 --> 00:59:33,738
[Missy Manners]
<i>Would you consider yourself</i>

1369
00:59:33,838 --> 00:59:35,439
<i>a pioneer in feminism?</i>

1370
00:59:35,539 --> 00:59:38,308
[Doda] <i>I don't know if I
consider myself a pioneer.</i>

1371
00:59:38,408 --> 00:59:39,977
[Missy Manners]
<i>You been attacked by feminists?</i>

1372
00:59:40,077 --> 00:59:42,212
[Doda] <i>Oh yes, they did
picket outside of the club</i>

1373
00:59:42,312 --> 00:59:43,981
<i>when I was working there.</i>

1374
00:59:44,081 --> 00:59:47,251
<i>I said, "I guess I was one of
the original bra burners.</i>

1375
00:59:47,351 --> 00:59:48,585
<i>So what are we talking about?"</i>

1376
00:59:48,686 --> 00:59:49,854
[Missy Manners] <i>That's great.</i>

1377
00:59:49,954 --> 00:59:52,657
[chanting]
Beauty pageants gotta go!

1378
00:59:52,757 --> 00:59:54,124
[reporter 15] <i>The women's
liberation movement</i>

1379
00:59:54,224 --> 00:59:55,492
<i>organized several groups</i>

1380
00:59:55,592 --> 00:59:57,862
<i>to protest
the Miss America pageant</i>

1381
00:59:57,962 --> 01:00:00,297
<i>as a symbol of society's
exploitation</i>

1382
01:00:00,397 --> 01:00:02,466
<i>of women as sex objects.</i>

1383
01:00:02,566 --> 01:00:04,001
[indistinct chanting]

1384
01:00:04,101 --> 01:00:07,204
[Thornton] <i>In 1968,
some feminists gathered</i>

1385
01:00:07,304 --> 01:00:10,140
<i>outside the Miss America
pageant</i>

1386
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:11,676
<i>in Atlantic City</i>

1387
01:00:11,776 --> 01:00:14,344
<i>and constructed
a Freedom Trash Can</i>

1388
01:00:14,444 --> 01:00:16,981
<i>into which
they would throw bras.</i>

1389
01:00:17,081 --> 01:00:20,885
[Little Eva] <i>* Everybody's doing
a brand-new dance now ♪</i>

1390
01:00:20,985 --> 01:00:24,288
<i>♪ Come on, baby,
do the Locomotion ♪</i>

1391
01:00:24,388 --> 01:00:28,458
<i>♪ I know you'll get to like it
if you give it a chance now ♪</i>

1392
01:00:28,558 --> 01:00:31,061
[Thornton] <i>That trash can
was never actually put on fire.</i>

1393
01:00:31,796 --> 01:00:33,831
<i>The boardwalk in Atlantic City
is made out of wood</i>

1394
01:00:33,931 --> 01:00:35,866
and the fire department
wouldn't let them.

1395
01:00:35,966 --> 01:00:39,069
<i>So the bra burning's
a media myth</i>

1396
01:00:39,169 --> 01:00:42,072
<i>but it is definitely the case
that bras</i>

1397
01:00:42,172 --> 01:00:45,275
<i>were perceived
as shackles of patriarchy.</i>

1398
01:00:46,811 --> 01:00:50,014
It was just one of those
freedoms we wanted to take.

1399
01:00:50,114 --> 01:00:51,648
<i>It was an act of defiance.</i>

1400
01:00:51,749 --> 01:00:54,318
<i>We didn't have to wear a bra
if we didn't want to.</i>

1401
01:00:54,418 --> 01:00:56,787
<i>♪ Well, I think you've
got the knack ♪</i>

1402
01:00:57,354 --> 01:00:59,990
<i>♪ Whoa-whoa,
now that you can do it ♪</i>

1403
01:01:00,090 --> 01:01:02,059
<i>♪ Let's make a chain now... ♪</i>

1404
01:01:02,159 --> 01:01:03,928
[Benita Mattioli] <i>We took
birth control the same way</i>

1405
01:01:04,028 --> 01:01:05,730
<i>and said we're gonna
have that too</i>

1406
01:01:05,830 --> 01:01:07,431
<i>and the right to talk
about sex.</i>

1407
01:01:07,531 --> 01:01:09,834
So we had gained it
'cause we took it.

1408
01:01:09,934 --> 01:01:12,336
We were taking that freedom.

1409
01:01:12,436 --> 01:01:15,305
- [mellow funk music plays]
<i>- ♪ Please say something sweet ♪</i>

1410
01:01:19,176 --> 01:01:22,312
<i>♪ Please say something sweet ♪</i>

1411
01:01:22,947 --> 01:01:24,782
[Thanash] <i>She seemed
to be like a sailor.</i>

1412
01:01:24,882 --> 01:01:26,316
She had a lot of boyfriends.

1413
01:01:26,450 --> 01:01:28,685
[McGovern] <i>She did not have
good luck with men.</i>

1414
01:01:29,787 --> 01:01:33,991
<i>She probably didn't trust
any man she'd ever been with,</i>

1415
01:01:34,091 --> 01:01:36,727
<i>thinking that they were
all there just for one thing.</i>

1416
01:01:37,361 --> 01:01:38,863
Her fame.

1417
01:01:38,963 --> 01:01:40,630
[reporter 16]
<i>Fame brings problems.</i>

1418
01:01:40,731 --> 01:01:42,366
<i>"When a man asks me out,"
she complains,</i>

1419
01:01:42,466 --> 01:01:47,071
<i>"I never know if he's
interested in me... or them."</i>

1420
01:01:47,171 --> 01:01:49,907
[McGovern] <i>I think that with
all the glitter and everything,</i>

1421
01:01:50,007 --> 01:01:51,876
<i>I think she was
basically lonely.</i>

1422
01:01:51,976 --> 01:01:53,778
[gentle, mellow melody plays]

1423
01:01:53,878 --> 01:01:56,546
[Doda] <i>I can't even find
a steady boyfriend right now.</i>

1424
01:01:57,147 --> 01:01:59,649
<i>Because I think most men
have preconceived notions</i>

1425
01:01:59,750 --> 01:02:03,053
<i>and they can't handle
what I'm doing.</i>

1426
01:02:03,153 --> 01:02:04,822
[Thanash] <i>She used
to call me up all the time</i>

1427
01:02:04,922 --> 01:02:06,791
<i>and want advice on men.</i>

1428
01:02:06,891 --> 01:02:08,793
Only young guys.

1429
01:02:08,893 --> 01:02:11,195
She wanted nothing to do
with anybody over 30.

1430
01:02:11,728 --> 01:02:14,799
She did rather like younger men.

1431
01:02:14,899 --> 01:02:16,801
<i>Because I don't think
she wanted anybody</i>

1432
01:02:16,901 --> 01:02:17,935
<i>to tell her what to do</i>

1433
01:02:18,035 --> 01:02:19,136
<i>or to have a man</i>

1434
01:02:19,236 --> 01:02:21,806
<i>controlling her life at all.</i>

1435
01:02:21,906 --> 01:02:23,640
<i>Very free-spirited.</i>

1436
01:02:23,740 --> 01:02:26,911
I started working in...
when I was underage, at 19.

1437
01:02:27,011 --> 01:02:31,015
<i>I was checking IDs and became
a doorman at my uncle's club.</i>

1438
01:02:31,115 --> 01:02:33,918
<i>When I got inside and was
bartending, she'd come in</i>

1439
01:02:34,018 --> 01:02:35,485
<i>and say,
"Hi, Phil. How are ya?"</i>

1440
01:02:35,585 --> 01:02:36,821
<i>And she just
took a liking to me</i>

1441
01:02:36,921 --> 01:02:38,823
<i>and then we got kinda close.</i>

1442
01:02:38,956 --> 01:02:41,525
"What are you doing tonight?"
"Oh, nothing." She's asking me.

1443
01:02:41,625 --> 01:02:43,928
<i>I looked up to her
'cause she was famous.</i>

1444
01:02:44,028 --> 01:02:45,295
<i>You know, I was in awe.</i>

1445
01:02:45,395 --> 01:02:47,231
<i>What kid gets to do
this kinda thing?</i>

1446
01:02:47,798 --> 01:02:51,435
When we started seeing each
other, I was about 19 or 20.

1447
01:02:51,535 --> 01:02:54,338
<i>One of the first things she
said, "I want you to feel 'em."</i>

1448
01:02:54,438 --> 01:02:56,340
I thought if I squeezed
hard enough,

1449
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,176
I might leave a thumbprint. Felt
like modeling clay. Was heavy.

1450
01:02:59,276 --> 01:03:00,978
<i>It didn't feel natural.</i>

1451
01:03:01,078 --> 01:03:04,114
<i>If I touched too hard,
she didn't like that.</i>

1452
01:03:04,214 --> 01:03:05,715
<i>Not at all, 'cause it hurt.</i>

1453
01:03:06,250 --> 01:03:08,385
<i>But she did it for her career
and she had the career</i>

1454
01:03:08,485 --> 01:03:10,020
<i>and the fame from it.</i>

1455
01:03:10,254 --> 01:03:12,322
[announcer] <i>It's time for
the hottest talk show in town.</i>

1456
01:03:12,422 --> 01:03:13,958
Single in the City,

1457
01:03:14,058 --> 01:03:16,726
<i>starring two of San Francisco's
most famous landmarks,</i>

1458
01:03:16,827 --> 01:03:18,328
<i>Miss Carol Doda.</i>

1459
01:03:18,428 --> 01:03:19,796
[Doda] <i>Hi! This is Carol Doda,</i>

1460
01:03:19,897 --> 01:03:21,398
<i>and welcome to</i>
Single in the City.

1461
01:03:21,498 --> 01:03:23,167
<i>I don't know.
Where do you go to meet people?</i>

1462
01:03:23,267 --> 01:03:25,735
<i>I find it very hard for me
to go sit at a bar</i>

1463
01:03:25,836 --> 01:03:27,537
<i>and try to meet somebody.</i>

1464
01:03:27,637 --> 01:03:30,074
<i>You know, I get very...
embarrassed.</i>

1465
01:03:30,174 --> 01:03:33,077
<i>I feel like, "What the hell
am I doing here by myself?"</i>

1466
01:03:33,177 --> 01:03:35,545
<i>"Why am I not sitting
with Mr. Wonderful?"</i>

1467
01:03:35,645 --> 01:03:37,915
<i>Then I look around,
I don't see Mr. Wonderful.</i>

1468
01:03:38,015 --> 01:03:39,816
<i>Start thinking something's
wrong with you, right?</i>

1469
01:03:39,917 --> 01:03:41,818
[guest] <i>Gotta love yourself.</i>

1470
01:03:41,919 --> 01:03:44,821
<i>It is a great city
for self-development.</i>

1471
01:03:44,922 --> 01:03:47,224
[Doda] <i>Yeah, but I'm
overdeveloped as it is.</i>

1472
01:03:47,324 --> 01:03:48,558
<i>If I get any more developed,</i>

1473
01:03:48,658 --> 01:03:50,594
<i>I won't be able
to stand up and walk.</i>

1474
01:03:50,694 --> 01:03:53,730
[woman 8] <i>I do remember it just
being a long-standing joke</i>

1475
01:03:53,830 --> 01:03:56,233
that she's never
gonna find anybody.

1476
01:03:56,333 --> 01:03:58,502
"I'm gonna be single
for the rest of my life."

1477
01:03:58,602 --> 01:04:00,670
I think a relationship
with one person

1478
01:04:00,770 --> 01:04:02,606
can get better and better
and better and better.

1479
01:04:02,706 --> 01:04:05,009
Because that's what I want.
That's my ultimate goal.

1480
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:07,111
- You've never been married?
- No. Mm-mm.

1481
01:04:07,211 --> 01:04:08,845
<i>Have you been engaged?</i>

1482
01:04:08,946 --> 01:04:12,182
Have you any close,
personal loves in your life?

1483
01:04:12,282 --> 01:04:13,951
Oh, well,
I've had a lot of those.

1484
01:04:14,051 --> 01:04:15,385
[laughs]

1485
01:04:15,485 --> 01:04:17,287
[Moore] <i>She just wanted
somebody to love.</i>

1486
01:04:17,387 --> 01:04:19,556
That's really
all she ever wanted,

1487
01:04:19,656 --> 01:04:20,925
was to be loved.

1488
01:04:21,225 --> 01:04:23,293
<i>A lot of people wondered
about Carol being married.</i>

1489
01:04:23,393 --> 01:04:24,561
<i>There was rumors.</i>

1490
01:04:24,661 --> 01:04:26,196
<i>Nobody ever said anything.</i>

1491
01:04:26,296 --> 01:04:27,898
[Moore] <i>Carol was married young.</i>

1492
01:04:27,998 --> 01:04:30,800
I did not know the gentleman
that she married,

1493
01:04:30,901 --> 01:04:33,037
<i>but I do know,
the stories I've heard,</i>

1494
01:04:33,137 --> 01:04:37,241
<i>it was not a good relationship.
It was abusive for her.</i>

1495
01:04:37,341 --> 01:04:39,443
<i>When that relationship ended,</i>

1496
01:04:39,543 --> 01:04:42,046
<i>she moved on to the city.</i>

1497
01:04:42,146 --> 01:04:48,118
<i>♪ Washed by the waves
to a sandy shore ♪</i>

1498
01:04:48,218 --> 01:04:50,720
["Sad Little Girl"
by The Beau Brummels playing]

1499
01:04:50,820 --> 01:04:52,990
<i>♪ Now she won't be happy ♪</i>

1500
01:04:53,991 --> 01:04:57,794
<i>♪ Anymore ♪</i>

1501
01:04:58,929 --> 01:05:02,066
<i>♪ Anymore ♪</i>

1502
01:05:02,166 --> 01:05:05,135
- [ship's horn blows]
- [music fades]

1503
01:05:05,936 --> 01:05:07,604
[reporter 17] <i>In the cult
of the body beautiful,</i>

1504
01:05:07,704 --> 01:05:09,239
<i>California leads the way again.</i>

1505
01:05:09,773 --> 01:05:13,643
<i>What can top topless?
Bottomless, of course.</i>

1506
01:05:13,743 --> 01:05:15,779
In 1969, she takes it all off

1507
01:05:15,879 --> 01:05:18,015
and she's the first
bottomless dancer of note.

1508
01:05:18,115 --> 01:05:20,584
She went nude.
I never went all the way nude.

1509
01:05:21,285 --> 01:05:24,521
[Harry Nilsson]
<i>♪ You can climb a mountain ♪</i>

1510
01:05:24,621 --> 01:05:27,757
<i>♪ You can swim the sea ♪</i>

1511
01:05:27,857 --> 01:05:30,094
<i>♪ You can jump into the fire ♪</i>

1512
01:05:31,128 --> 01:05:33,263
<i>♪ But you'll never be free... ♪</i>

1513
01:05:33,363 --> 01:05:35,032
[Derdevanis]
<i>Bottomless was controversial</i>

1514
01:05:35,132 --> 01:05:38,668
<i>because it took away some of
the innocence of just topless.</i>

1515
01:05:38,768 --> 01:05:41,005
<i>But people wanted to see it.
You had to compete.</i>

1516
01:05:41,105 --> 01:05:42,839
[Faulknor] <i>They went bottomless</i>

1517
01:05:42,939 --> 01:05:45,309
<i>and then San Francisco said,
"Can't do that."</i>

1518
01:05:45,409 --> 01:05:48,678
<i>"Gotta do shaved with merkins."</i>

1519
01:05:48,778 --> 01:05:51,381
Which is, as my uncle calls it,
a beaver toupee.

1520
01:05:51,481 --> 01:05:53,350
This furry little G-string thing

1521
01:05:53,450 --> 01:05:56,686
and it looked like... you know,
like it was pubic hairs.

1522
01:05:56,786 --> 01:05:59,056
[Nilsson vocalizes softly]

1523
01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:01,858
[reporter 8] <i>You may be looking
at the focal point</i>

1524
01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:04,561
<i>of one of the pressing legal
questions of our age.</i>

1525
01:06:05,762 --> 01:06:09,499
<i>What was at issue here
was a 1970 board rule</i>

1526
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,568
<i>prohibiting any sexual acts,</i>

1527
01:06:11,668 --> 01:06:13,337
<i>whether real or simulated,</i>

1528
01:06:13,437 --> 01:06:15,639
<i>the displaying
of the genital area,</i>

1529
01:06:15,739 --> 01:06:18,475
<i>body contact between
nude performers,</i>

1530
01:06:18,575 --> 01:06:20,010
<i>and nude performers</i>

1531
01:06:20,110 --> 01:06:22,812
<i>who were less than six feet
from the audience.</i>

1532
01:06:22,912 --> 01:06:25,249
[Rosenberg] <i>As far as "naked,"
"nude," and "bottomless,"</i>

1533
01:06:25,349 --> 01:06:28,718
we are gonna fight those words
both outside and inside.

1534
01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:31,721
We are not going to cover up
or put G-strings

1535
01:06:31,821 --> 01:06:33,157
on our bottomless entertainers.

1536
01:06:33,257 --> 01:06:34,824
So your entertainers
are dancing nude tonight

1537
01:06:34,924 --> 01:06:36,493
in violation of this ruling?

1538
01:06:36,593 --> 01:06:38,528
- Yes, we are.
- What happens next?

1539
01:06:38,628 --> 01:06:40,764
[reporter 8] <i>And surrounded
by a bevy of performers,</i>

1540
01:06:40,864 --> 01:06:42,432
<i>including Carol Doda,</i>

1541
01:06:42,532 --> 01:06:44,668
<i>Belli expressed
shock and dismay.</i>

1542
01:06:44,768 --> 01:06:47,271
Now you tell me
if it's fair in America

1543
01:06:47,371 --> 01:06:48,905
that the theater can do that,

1544
01:06:49,005 --> 01:06:50,907
legitimate and on
the silver screen,

1545
01:06:51,007 --> 01:06:53,677
and my gals can't do that
out in the North Beach.

1546
01:06:53,777 --> 01:06:55,912
I think that's the damnedest
kind of discrimination

1547
01:06:56,012 --> 01:06:57,781
I've ever heard of.

1548
01:06:57,881 --> 01:07:02,552
<i>Now I defy anyone to go up and
see</i> Hair <i>or</i> Curious (Yellow)

1549
01:07:02,652 --> 01:07:04,588
<i>and say that there
is such a thing left</i>

1550
01:07:04,688 --> 01:07:07,023
<i>as obscenity or pornography.</i>

1551
01:07:07,124 --> 01:07:09,126
We're not allowed
to show everything.

1552
01:07:09,226 --> 01:07:12,962
But like he said, these movies
and these plays are.

1553
01:07:13,063 --> 01:07:14,531
And it's funny,
after five years,

1554
01:07:14,631 --> 01:07:16,566
that they're getting
this moral kick again.

1555
01:07:16,666 --> 01:07:18,068
I don't understand.

1556
01:07:18,902 --> 01:07:20,370
Look, we've got nudity here.

1557
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:22,372
You can't all of a sudden say,
"We haven't got it."

1558
01:07:22,472 --> 01:07:25,242
You know, like the mayor's
office or Dianne Feinstein

1559
01:07:25,342 --> 01:07:27,744
or the supervisor. They're
trying to ignore this street.

1560
01:07:27,844 --> 01:07:29,746
The Chamber of Commerce
ignores us

1561
01:07:29,846 --> 01:07:32,382
with all the convention bureaus
that come in here.

1562
01:07:32,482 --> 01:07:35,752
They ignore us,
when it was our publicity

1563
01:07:35,852 --> 01:07:40,257
that has set San Francisco up
as a major tourist town.

1564
01:07:41,057 --> 01:07:45,095
<i>I have been publicized
throughout the years as nude</i>

1565
01:07:45,195 --> 01:07:47,331
<i>and if they can't
see any of this,</i>

1566
01:07:47,431 --> 01:07:48,932
they're gonna be very unhappy

1567
01:07:49,032 --> 01:07:51,335
and they're not gonna
want to come to San Francisco.

1568
01:07:51,435 --> 01:07:52,769
[reporter 18] <i>The star witness,</i>

1569
01:07:52,869 --> 01:07:54,804
<i>eminently qualified
in her field,</i>

1570
01:07:54,904 --> 01:07:57,607
<i>San Francisco's Carol Doda
came to testify</i>

1571
01:07:57,707 --> 01:08:00,844
<i>in Sacramento's famous
topless/bottomless trial</i>

1572
01:08:00,944 --> 01:08:02,346
<i>on behalf of the defense</i>

1573
01:08:02,446 --> 01:08:05,449
<i>to demonstrate for a ten-man,
two-woman jury</i>

1574
01:08:05,549 --> 01:08:08,452
<i>her version of prevailing
community moral standards</i>

1575
01:08:08,552 --> 01:08:10,187
<i>in nightclub entertainment.</i>

1576
01:08:10,287 --> 01:08:13,123
Your show perhaps illustrates
standards in San Francisco.

1577
01:08:13,223 --> 01:08:15,125
How do you think that applies
to Sacramento?

1578
01:08:15,225 --> 01:08:17,161
Well, they're only
80 miles apart.

1579
01:08:17,261 --> 01:08:18,928
It couldn't be
that much different.

1580
01:08:19,028 --> 01:08:21,131
[reporter 8] <i>Today, the Supreme
Court of the United States</i>

1581
01:08:21,231 --> 01:08:23,333
<i>may have dealt them
a mortal blow.</i>

1582
01:08:23,433 --> 01:08:25,935
<i>In a 6-3 decision,
the court ruled</i>

1583
01:08:26,035 --> 01:08:28,037
<i>that under the 21st Amendment,</i>

1584
01:08:28,138 --> 01:08:29,939
<i>which repealed Prohibition,</i>

1585
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:33,177
<i>the California Alcoholic
Beverage Control Board</i>

1586
01:08:33,277 --> 01:08:36,213
<i>has the right to regulate
the type of entertainment</i>

1587
01:08:36,313 --> 01:08:38,448
<i>offered by any establishment</i>

1588
01:08:38,548 --> 01:08:40,650
<i>which is licensed
to sell drinks.</i>

1589
01:08:40,750 --> 01:08:42,219
<i>It would seem then</i>

1590
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:44,821
<i>that if you want to watch
naked lady wrestlers,</i>

1591
01:08:44,921 --> 01:08:47,824
seductive nude stewardesses,
or college coeds,

1592
01:08:47,924 --> 01:08:50,194
or whatever your pleasure
in the future,

1593
01:08:50,294 --> 01:08:51,695
then you're gonna have to do it

1594
01:08:51,795 --> 01:08:53,697
while either eating candy bars
and popcorn

1595
01:08:53,797 --> 01:08:56,766
or drinking milk, orange juice,
or soda pop.

1596
01:08:57,934 --> 01:08:59,303
And so, bottomless was dead.

1597
01:08:59,403 --> 01:09:01,938
[muted dance music
plays inside]

1598
01:09:03,173 --> 01:09:07,911
The stigma attached
to erotic work

1599
01:09:08,011 --> 01:09:11,381
<i>is a problem
for women's liberation</i>

1600
01:09:11,481 --> 01:09:14,117
<i>and equality.</i>

1601
01:09:14,218 --> 01:09:17,153
<i>Collective empowerment
comes through</i>

1602
01:09:17,254 --> 01:09:20,490
<i>changes in policy,
changes in laws,</i>

1603
01:09:20,590 --> 01:09:22,892
<i>general changes in the culture.</i>

1604
01:09:22,992 --> 01:09:28,398
<i>And those things are hard-won
and take a long time.</i>

1605
01:09:28,498 --> 01:09:30,500
[Martin] <i>Carol Doda
was a fighter</i>

1606
01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,536
<i>and she didn't want hypocrisy</i>

1607
01:09:32,636 --> 01:09:34,838
<i>about whether women
were being exploited</i>

1608
01:09:34,938 --> 01:09:37,607
<i>in bottomless clubs,
topless clubs,</i>

1609
01:09:37,707 --> 01:09:43,046
to mask the equally deep issue
of worker exploitation.

1610
01:09:43,146 --> 01:09:45,181
["Laugh, Laugh"
by The Beau Brummels plays]

1611
01:09:45,282 --> 01:09:48,218
<i>♪ I hate to say it
but I told you so ♪</i>

1612
01:09:49,118 --> 01:09:52,155
<i>♪ Don't mind my
preaching to you ♪</i>

1613
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:56,059
<i>♪ I said, don't trust him, baby
Now you know ♪</i>

1614
01:09:56,159 --> 01:09:59,929
<i>♪ You don't learn everything
There is to know at school... ♪</i>

1615
01:10:00,397 --> 01:10:04,133
[Martin] <i>She sometimes would do
12 performances a day.</i>

1616
01:10:04,234 --> 01:10:05,802
[interviewer]
<i>You work here at the Condor.</i>

1617
01:10:05,902 --> 01:10:07,804
- [Doda] <i>Steady.</i>
- [both] <i>Seven days a week.</i>

1618
01:10:07,904 --> 01:10:09,105
[interviewer]
<i>For each show you...</i>

1619
01:10:09,205 --> 01:10:10,607
[Doda] <i>Dress, undress.</i>

1620
01:10:10,707 --> 01:10:12,909
<i>You know, there's no diversion.</i>

1621
01:10:13,677 --> 01:10:15,412
[Martin] <i>Her other disputes
with the Condor</i>

1622
01:10:15,512 --> 01:10:17,247
<i>were literally about money.</i>

1623
01:10:17,347 --> 01:10:20,049
<i>And that was about being an
actual person, not a symbol,</i>

1624
01:10:20,149 --> 01:10:23,387
<i>and being a woman,
and the wage gap.</i>

1625
01:10:23,487 --> 01:10:24,754
At a certain point,

1626
01:10:24,854 --> 01:10:28,592
she had a year-to-year contract

1627
01:10:28,692 --> 01:10:30,327
and she wasn't happy about it.

1628
01:10:30,427 --> 01:10:32,562
[Pete Mattioli] <i>Would always
naturally ask for more money</i>

1629
01:10:32,662 --> 01:10:34,298
<i>and we'd have to negotiate.</i>

1630
01:10:34,398 --> 01:10:36,466
<i>And we paid her
pretty fairly well.</i>

1631
01:10:36,566 --> 01:10:38,968
<i>You know?
But she was never happy</i>

1632
01:10:39,068 --> 01:10:41,271
<i>because they figured
the club owners</i>

1633
01:10:41,371 --> 01:10:42,939
<i>were making all the money.</i>

1634
01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:44,508
Well, we own the club, you know?

1635
01:10:44,608 --> 01:10:48,678
I think at one point she wanted
to buy in to the Condor

1636
01:10:48,778 --> 01:10:50,814
<i>when she got really successful.</i>

1637
01:10:50,914 --> 01:10:52,516
<i>But I don't know what happened
with that.</i>

1638
01:10:52,616 --> 01:10:54,851
[Pete Mattioli]
<i>Naturally, we turned her down.</i>

1639
01:10:54,951 --> 01:10:57,454
<i>We aren't gonna give her
any percentage of the place.</i>

1640
01:10:57,554 --> 01:10:58,922
We own the place.

1641
01:10:59,022 --> 01:11:02,091
[gentle jazz music plays]

1642
01:11:05,061 --> 01:11:07,130
<i>When she had left the Condor,</i>

1643
01:11:07,230 --> 01:11:11,901
<i>Voss started managing her and
Voss owned the Off-Broadway.</i>

1644
01:11:12,001 --> 01:11:14,003
<i>Him and Gino got together</i>

1645
01:11:14,103 --> 01:11:16,205
because Gino wasn't part
of the Condor anymore.

1646
01:11:16,306 --> 01:11:17,841
[Pete Mattioli] <i>They opened
a club down the street</i>

1647
01:11:17,941 --> 01:11:19,843
<i>called Carol Doda's.</i>

1648
01:11:19,943 --> 01:11:21,811
[Valkanoff] <i>That's what they
called it so they could make</i>

1649
01:11:21,911 --> 01:11:24,381
<i>as much money as they could
off her name and image.</i>

1650
01:11:24,781 --> 01:11:26,350
[Pete Mattioli]
<i>We weren't worried</i>

1651
01:11:26,450 --> 01:11:28,452
<i>because we just hired
other go-go girls</i>

1652
01:11:28,552 --> 01:11:29,853
<i>and we still made money.</i>

1653
01:11:29,953 --> 01:11:32,255
<i>Maybe not as much,
but we still made money.</i>

1654
01:11:33,156 --> 01:11:34,691
And today, a press preview

1655
01:11:34,791 --> 01:11:37,527
<i>of a talented young lady
named Carol Doda.</i>

1656
01:11:37,627 --> 01:11:39,863
<i>Her new revue seems
to fly in the face</i>

1657
01:11:39,963 --> 01:11:41,164
<i>of the current trends</i>

1658
01:11:41,264 --> 01:11:43,266
<i>for pornography and skin.</i>

1659
01:11:43,367 --> 01:11:45,802
<i>A revue that presents
lavish costumes,</i>

1660
01:11:45,902 --> 01:11:48,237
<i>a Las Vegas-type choreography,</i>

1661
01:11:48,338 --> 01:11:50,374
<i>and even political satire.</i>

1662
01:11:50,474 --> 01:11:52,342
<i>Carol says
she thinks it'll work.</i>

1663
01:11:52,442 --> 01:11:55,078
They're gonna go and see
these little movie houses

1664
01:11:55,178 --> 01:11:58,014
but then they'll say,
"Okay, we saw it. What's next?"

1665
01:11:58,114 --> 01:11:59,716
Now they're ready
for entertainment.

1666
01:11:59,816 --> 01:12:01,885
[reporter 19] <i>Do you sort of
long for those simple,</i>

1667
01:12:01,985 --> 01:12:03,553
<i>straightforward days?</i>

1668
01:12:03,653 --> 01:12:06,656
You mean the topless days,
going up and down on a piano?

1669
01:12:07,090 --> 01:12:09,325
Those simple, straightforward
days are exactly that.

1670
01:12:09,426 --> 01:12:10,694
Simple and straightforward.

1671
01:12:10,794 --> 01:12:12,396
You cannot stay at the same...

1672
01:12:12,496 --> 01:12:14,398
On anything. I don't care
what you're doing,

1673
01:12:14,498 --> 01:12:15,865
politics, religion, anything,

1674
01:12:15,965 --> 01:12:17,867
you cannot stay
on the same level.

1675
01:12:17,967 --> 01:12:19,135
You always have to graduate.

1676
01:12:19,836 --> 01:12:21,605
They rigged a pretty nice
little show for her,

1677
01:12:21,705 --> 01:12:22,939
but it didn't work.

1678
01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:25,074
It was only there
for less than a year.

1679
01:12:25,174 --> 01:12:26,776
[Pete Mattioli] <i>It went broke.</i>

1680
01:12:27,310 --> 01:12:29,713
<i>She was nothing
without the Condor.</i>

1681
01:12:29,813 --> 01:12:32,015
<i>And we knew that.
She didn't know that.</i>

1682
01:12:32,115 --> 01:12:34,083
[Feinstein] <i>Would you go back
to the Condor?</i>

1683
01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:35,885
<i>They still have your name
up there in lights.</i>

1684
01:12:35,985 --> 01:12:37,286
[Doda] <i>No, I'm not
planning on it.</i>

1685
01:12:37,987 --> 01:12:39,756
[Post] <i>The queen of topless,
Carol Doda,</i>

1686
01:12:39,856 --> 01:12:42,058
<i>decided to
put her clothes back on</i>

1687
01:12:42,158 --> 01:12:45,261
<i>and make her debut as
a dramatic actress and singer.</i>

1688
01:12:46,362 --> 01:12:49,866
<i>♪ So the Bible said ♪</i>

1689
01:12:49,966 --> 01:12:54,538
<i>♪ And it still is news ♪</i>

1690
01:12:54,638 --> 01:12:56,105
The critics,
everybody's who's seen it,

1691
01:12:56,205 --> 01:12:58,374
know that we have an excellent
show. Marvelous show.

1692
01:12:58,475 --> 01:13:00,810
<i>It's Carol's dramatic debut</i>

1693
01:13:00,910 --> 01:13:02,812
<i>and she surprises
everybody in it.</i>

1694
01:13:02,912 --> 01:13:05,281
But the newspaper strikes,
uh, may kill us.

1695
01:13:05,381 --> 01:13:07,584
[Post] <i>When almost nobody
came to see her show,</i>

1696
01:13:07,684 --> 01:13:09,586
<i>Miss Doda blamed
the newspaper strike.</i>

1697
01:13:09,686 --> 01:13:11,320
She went to Los Angeles.

1698
01:13:11,888 --> 01:13:14,658
<i>Los Angeles had a ton
of burlesque shows,</i>

1699
01:13:14,758 --> 01:13:17,727
<i>so strippers were
all over the place.</i>

1700
01:13:18,361 --> 01:13:20,764
<i>And then she went to Vegas,
and, oh, Vegas.</i>

1701
01:13:20,864 --> 01:13:22,999
[up-tempo jazz music plays]

1702
01:13:23,099 --> 01:13:24,501
[Judy Mamou]
<i>Vegas wasn't her thing.</i>

1703
01:13:24,601 --> 01:13:28,137
<i>There was too many beautiful,
tall, talented,</i>

1704
01:13:28,237 --> 01:13:29,573
<i>gorgeous women in Vegas.</i>

1705
01:13:29,673 --> 01:13:32,308
So she was just another girl.

1706
01:13:32,408 --> 01:13:36,145
[light jazz melody plays]

1707
01:13:36,245 --> 01:13:38,782
Then she'd come back and then
we'd give her her job back.

1708
01:13:38,882 --> 01:13:40,416
[sultry music plays nearby]

1709
01:13:40,517 --> 01:13:41,851
[passerby] <i>I love you!</i>

1710
01:13:41,951 --> 01:13:45,955
[indistinct chatter]

1711
01:13:46,055 --> 01:13:48,091
Hi, darlin'.
How ya doin', darlin'?

1712
01:13:50,193 --> 01:13:51,628
Showtime! Break it up!

1713
01:13:51,728 --> 01:13:54,097
[bombastic,
bawdy instrumentals play]

1714
01:14:02,438 --> 01:14:03,807
[reporter 20]
<i>Are you happy with it?</i>

1715
01:14:03,907 --> 01:14:06,275
<i>And what have been
the side effects of it?</i>

1716
01:14:06,375 --> 01:14:07,777
Oh, um...

1717
01:14:07,877 --> 01:14:09,513
Yes, I'm happy with it.

1718
01:14:09,613 --> 01:14:12,716
I mean, it would be awful to be
unhappy with it at this point.

1719
01:14:12,816 --> 01:14:15,284
- What was the other question?
- [reporter 20] <i>I'm just...</i>

1720
01:14:15,384 --> 01:14:16,786
<i>Have you ever
had any complications?</i>

1721
01:14:16,886 --> 01:14:18,287
Oh, complications.

1722
01:14:18,387 --> 01:14:21,290
Uh, not real complications.
The only thing is...

1723
01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:23,993
is that silicone
does harden a little bit.

1724
01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:26,896
[Williams] <i>Women first started
getting injections of silicone</i>

1725
01:14:26,996 --> 01:14:28,131
<i>in their breasts</i>

1726
01:14:28,231 --> 01:14:30,634
probably right after
World War II,

1727
01:14:30,734 --> 01:14:34,604
where there were big vats
of industrial-grade silicone

1728
01:14:34,704 --> 01:14:38,675
<i>hanging out on
the Yokohama Harbor in Japan.</i>

1729
01:14:38,775 --> 01:14:41,377
<i>And Japanese prostitutes
started injecting the stuff</i>

1730
01:14:41,477 --> 01:14:42,712
<i>into their breasts</i>

1731
01:14:42,812 --> 01:14:45,381
<i>as a way to attract male
service members</i>

1732
01:14:45,481 --> 01:14:47,083
<i>from the United States.</i>

1733
01:14:47,183 --> 01:14:49,819
<i>They actually exported
that practice</i>

1734
01:14:49,919 --> 01:14:52,188
<i>to other parts of the world,
including the United States.</i>

1735
01:14:52,288 --> 01:14:56,359
Well, I'll tell you. I'm from
Japan and I'm half Japanese.

1736
01:14:57,126 --> 01:14:58,394
From here to here.

1737
01:14:59,295 --> 01:15:01,397
Made in Japan.

1738
01:15:01,497 --> 01:15:03,099
[reporter 20]
<i>Does it collapse at all?</i>

1739
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:05,001
Nope, still there. [laughs]

1740
01:15:05,101 --> 01:15:06,435
<i>They have not collapsed</i>

1741
01:15:06,536 --> 01:15:08,371
<i>and you haven't
had to have more injections?</i>

1742
01:15:08,471 --> 01:15:10,039
They don't look collapsed to me.

1743
01:15:10,139 --> 01:15:11,307
No, I haven't.

1744
01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:15,444
So I didn't know
silicone collapsed.

1745
01:15:15,545 --> 01:15:17,881
I thought the inflatables do.
Don't they?

1746
01:15:17,981 --> 01:15:19,015
They don't?

1747
01:15:19,115 --> 01:15:20,550
[reporter 20] <i>Yes, they can.</i>

1748
01:15:20,650 --> 01:15:21,951
[Derdevanis] <i>You could see
what was happening.</i>

1749
01:15:22,051 --> 01:15:23,419
<i>She had to keep getting
the injections</i>

1750
01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,055
just to keep looking normal, balanced.

1751
01:15:26,155 --> 01:15:28,124
<i>You had it to do all over,
would you...</i>

1752
01:15:28,224 --> 01:15:29,693
Well, I don't see why...

1753
01:15:29,793 --> 01:15:31,895
You can't cry over
spilt silicone.

1754
01:15:34,297 --> 01:15:36,332
[reporter 20] <i>Hm. Okay.</i>

1755
01:15:38,568 --> 01:15:41,304
<i>What kinds of problems
have you seen?</i>

1756
01:15:41,404 --> 01:15:44,507
We have had women with
marked skin discoloration,

1757
01:15:44,608 --> 01:15:47,210
anywhere from bright red
to actually black

1758
01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:49,879
with some of the oil exuding
through their skin.

1759
01:15:50,313 --> 01:15:53,149
We've had... Most of the women
have lumps,

1760
01:15:53,249 --> 01:15:54,951
many of which are very,
very painful.

1761
01:15:55,051 --> 01:15:57,687
Their breasts become
hard and rock-like.

1762
01:15:58,254 --> 01:16:01,457
And, uh, cancer detection
is impossible

1763
01:16:01,557 --> 01:16:02,926
<i>on an early basis.</i>

1764
01:16:04,060 --> 01:16:06,630
[Judy Mamou] <i>Carol could've
never made it without silicone.</i>

1765
01:16:06,730 --> 01:16:10,133
<i>I wouldn't have been a big act
if I hadn't had silicone.</i>

1766
01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:12,602
<i>That was my life.
That was my money.</i>

1767
01:16:12,702 --> 01:16:14,904
<i>I wanted it, so I was willing
to take the chance.</i>

1768
01:16:15,004 --> 01:16:16,239
<i>I figured, "What the heck?</i>

1769
01:16:16,339 --> 01:16:18,174
If they go bad,
just cut 'em off."

1770
01:16:19,776 --> 01:16:21,678
You can live without your boobs.

1771
01:16:23,412 --> 01:16:25,915
<i>But luckily, I didn't have
any trouble with them.</i>

1772
01:16:26,349 --> 01:16:28,551
<i>Until I had a child</i>

1773
01:16:29,018 --> 01:16:31,287
<i>and I wanted to nurse my child.</i>

1774
01:16:31,721 --> 01:16:33,422
<i>So the milk came in</i>

1775
01:16:34,123 --> 01:16:37,761
<i>and we had to put a sheet
around me to hold my breasts,</i>

1776
01:16:37,861 --> 01:16:39,095
they were so huge.

1777
01:16:39,963 --> 01:16:42,531
And the milk in my breast

1778
01:16:42,632 --> 01:16:45,501
cut the circulation off

1779
01:16:45,601 --> 01:16:47,671
<i>and my breast turned black
and I got gangrene.</i>

1780
01:16:48,304 --> 01:16:51,440
<i>I had to have five surgeries
to take it out.</i>

1781
01:16:52,709 --> 01:16:54,110
I have no breasts.

1782
01:16:56,312 --> 01:16:58,682
To be 30 years old and used
to being a sex symbol

1783
01:16:58,782 --> 01:17:00,049
and lose your breast?

1784
01:17:02,051 --> 01:17:05,121
<i>I coulda died if I hadn't have
discovered it.</i>

1785
01:17:06,756 --> 01:17:08,858
The FDA banned the practice

1786
01:17:08,958 --> 01:17:10,860
because industrial-grade
silicone

1787
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,230
was creating all sorts of health
problems in women.

1788
01:17:14,764 --> 01:17:17,901
<i>By the mid 1970s,
silicone implants,</i>

1789
01:17:18,001 --> 01:17:19,836
<i>which was basically
taking the silicone</i>

1790
01:17:19,936 --> 01:17:23,306
<i>and encasing it in sort of
a baggy, a silicone baggy.</i>

1791
01:17:23,406 --> 01:17:25,641
<i>And at that point,
the implant business</i>

1792
01:17:25,742 --> 01:17:27,944
<i>really took over
from the injections.</i>

1793
01:17:28,511 --> 01:17:31,514
<i>A lot of women started to
report health problems</i>

1794
01:17:31,614 --> 01:17:34,083
<i>associated with their implants.</i>

1795
01:17:34,183 --> 01:17:35,418
<i>And they actually joined</i>

1796
01:17:35,518 --> 01:17:38,154
the largest class-action
lawsuit ever

1797
01:17:38,254 --> 01:17:39,856
against a consumer product,

1798
01:17:39,956 --> 01:17:41,991
and that was against Dow Corning

1799
01:17:42,091 --> 01:17:44,493
<i>and manufacturers
of breast implants.</i>

1800
01:17:45,194 --> 01:17:47,530
<i>It became the largest
class-action settlement</i>

1801
01:17:47,630 --> 01:17:49,298
<i>in history at that time.</i>

1802
01:17:50,266 --> 01:17:53,136
<i>And Dow Corning actually
was driven into bankruptcy.</i>

1803
01:17:54,370 --> 01:17:57,040
["I Left My Heart in San
Francisco" by Beegie Adair]

1804
01:17:57,140 --> 01:17:58,674
[Derdevanis]
<i>Carol was asking herself,</i>

1805
01:17:58,775 --> 01:18:00,009
<i>"Why am I going through this?"</i>

1806
01:18:01,845 --> 01:18:04,881
<i>"I need to get more for
sacrificing myself for this."</i>

1807
01:18:07,817 --> 01:18:10,286
[Doda] <i>Show business
is very, very hard.</i>

1808
01:18:10,386 --> 01:18:11,587
[Feinstein] <i>Not only topless,</i>

1809
01:18:11,687 --> 01:18:13,589
<i>but say at the level
of Lena Horne.</i>

1810
01:18:13,689 --> 01:18:16,025
<i>She told me that you need
a cast iron belly</i>

1811
01:18:16,125 --> 01:18:17,693
<i>and being a woman,
she doesn't like...</i>

1812
01:18:17,794 --> 01:18:20,830
[Doda] <i>You need a cast iron
heart to go along with it.</i>

1813
01:18:23,232 --> 01:18:25,902
She did mention to me
several times that,

1814
01:18:26,002 --> 01:18:29,572
"Yeah, this thing... I wonder
if I made the right choice."

1815
01:18:29,672 --> 01:18:32,108
They always say people
in show business are crazy

1816
01:18:32,208 --> 01:18:35,178
or they're... they are freaky
or they're...

1817
01:18:35,278 --> 01:18:36,645
they do everything.

1818
01:18:37,246 --> 01:18:39,615
Well, I'm pretty basic
and very simple.

1819
01:18:39,715 --> 01:18:40,984
If...

1820
01:18:41,084 --> 01:18:43,386
I'm probably the only one I know
that, uh...

1821
01:18:44,153 --> 01:18:47,490
is all-American girl
likes all-American guy,

1822
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:49,492
and probably the one next door.

1823
01:18:49,592 --> 01:18:50,960
[Father Riley]
<i>How about a home and a family?</i>

1824
01:18:51,060 --> 01:18:53,329
Did you ever think of
settling down someday

1825
01:18:53,429 --> 01:18:55,131
and raising children?

1826
01:18:55,231 --> 01:18:56,565
No. I, uh...

1827
01:18:56,665 --> 01:18:58,802
I really am not... a mother.

1828
01:18:59,735 --> 01:19:01,938
I know what I am.
I know I'm an entertainer.

1829
01:19:02,538 --> 01:19:04,941
I think... I wouldn't
bet my life on it,

1830
01:19:05,041 --> 01:19:07,576
I think that she had a kid.

1831
01:19:07,676 --> 01:19:09,278
She had a child, I heard.

1832
01:19:09,378 --> 01:19:11,447
One... One or two.

1833
01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:14,117
She had two children.
A son and daughter.

1834
01:19:14,951 --> 01:19:16,352
I'll be damned.

1835
01:19:16,452 --> 01:19:18,822
Never talked about that, ever.

1836
01:19:18,922 --> 01:19:20,957
That was like a secret.

1837
01:19:21,557 --> 01:19:23,626
I don't know who the father was.
I don't know...

1838
01:19:23,726 --> 01:19:25,194
I don't know if she was married.

1839
01:19:25,294 --> 01:19:29,365
You know, we never really talked
about our personal lives

1840
01:19:29,465 --> 01:19:30,599
<i>in North Beach.</i>

1841
01:19:31,835 --> 01:19:33,970
<i>We talked about
our professional lives.</i>

1842
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:36,672
<i>Your act and your hair
and your makeup</i>

1843
01:19:36,772 --> 01:19:38,341
<i>and people on the street.</i>

1844
01:19:38,942 --> 01:19:41,677
<i>I never talked about my kids.
Nobody knew I had kids.</i>

1845
01:19:42,311 --> 01:19:45,314
I never knew Carol had kids.
She never mentioned...

1846
01:19:45,414 --> 01:19:47,350
Ever mentioned it.

1847
01:19:48,117 --> 01:19:52,055
Well, Carol's divorce
was not a good divorce.

1848
01:19:52,155 --> 01:19:54,690
<i>I believe she lost custody
of her children.</i>

1849
01:19:55,791 --> 01:19:58,061
<i>And that's part of what shaped</i>

1850
01:19:58,161 --> 01:20:02,298
<i>her protective layers
and walls that she built up.</i>

1851
01:20:03,967 --> 01:20:07,837
Somebody said I should, uh,
write a book about

1852
01:20:07,937 --> 01:20:09,705
Broadway or my life.

1853
01:20:09,805 --> 01:20:13,242
I said, "My God, I don't want
to start crying," you know?

1854
01:20:13,676 --> 01:20:15,879
- Forget it.
- <i>Is Broadway sad?</i>

1855
01:20:15,979 --> 01:20:18,714
No, I'm talking about my life.
[laughs]

1856
01:20:18,814 --> 01:20:22,886
<i>Everybody asks me, "Where is
Broadway going?" every year.</i>

1857
01:20:22,986 --> 01:20:24,720
<i>I've had people say,
"Oh my God,</i>

1858
01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:26,255
<i>it isn't like it used to be."</i>

1859
01:20:26,355 --> 01:20:29,158
<i>But one second away
is not like it used to be.</i>

1860
01:20:29,258 --> 01:20:30,559
And if you live like that,

1861
01:20:30,659 --> 01:20:32,561
then you will be living
in the past.

1862
01:20:32,661 --> 01:20:35,098
And I just don't... You know,
I don't relate like that.

1863
01:20:35,198 --> 01:20:36,432
<i>Is it a boulevard
of broken dreams?</i>

1864
01:20:36,532 --> 01:20:37,766
<i>You think people
who work on Broadway</i>

1865
01:20:37,867 --> 01:20:39,402
<i>have fairly normal lives?</i>

1866
01:20:39,502 --> 01:20:41,337
<i>Like if they were a stockbroker
working on Montgomery?</i>

1867
01:20:41,437 --> 01:20:42,906
No way, Jose.

1868
01:20:43,006 --> 01:20:46,709
[mellow pop rock music plays]

1869
01:20:51,214 --> 01:20:54,250
[Vicious] <i>Every place had
a barker out there going,</i>

1870
01:20:54,350 --> 01:20:57,453
"Naked! Naked! Naked!
See the naked girls!

1871
01:20:57,553 --> 01:20:58,888
Two-drink minimum."

1872
01:20:58,988 --> 01:21:01,590
The hottest show on Broadway,
right here!

1873
01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:04,693
[Vicious] <i>"Man-woman sex act
right on stage!"</i>

1874
01:21:04,793 --> 01:21:06,695
Come on, take a peek.
No cover charge.

1875
01:21:06,795 --> 01:21:08,431
I might get a heart attack,
I'm afraid.

1876
01:21:08,531 --> 01:21:09,765
Come on. No, you won't.

1877
01:21:09,865 --> 01:21:11,700
You'll get a hard-on.
Check it out.

1878
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,302
[Derdevanis] <i>I was a barker.</i>

1879
01:21:13,402 --> 01:21:15,571
<i>Didn't know how to do it.
I just watched my uncle.</i>

1880
01:21:15,671 --> 01:21:17,573
"Two teachers, a housewife,
and secretary

1881
01:21:17,673 --> 01:21:19,108
in our amateur topless contest!"

1882
01:21:19,208 --> 01:21:21,644
Young ladies here for more than
one million dollars.

1883
01:21:21,744 --> 01:21:22,979
That's a lot of money, man.

1884
01:21:23,079 --> 01:21:24,447
You gotta have a perfect body.

1885
01:21:24,547 --> 01:21:27,216
Supernatural sex for sale!

1886
01:21:27,316 --> 01:21:28,584
Who bit that apple?

1887
01:21:28,684 --> 01:21:31,087
Nothing but Eve, that's what.
Come in.

1888
01:21:31,187 --> 01:21:34,157
Excuse me, gentlemen.
Right here it is...

1889
01:21:36,425 --> 01:21:37,726
Step right up.

1890
01:21:38,327 --> 01:21:39,996
[Judy Mamou] <i>When you've got
a five-piece band</i>

1891
01:21:40,096 --> 01:21:42,598
<i>and a topless dancer,
and go-go girls,</i>

1892
01:21:42,698 --> 01:21:44,133
that's a lot of people
you gotta pay.

1893
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:47,170
<i>You gotta be charging big bucks
for drinks.</i>

1894
01:21:47,270 --> 01:21:49,305
<i>You gotta have full houses
every night.</i>

1895
01:21:49,905 --> 01:21:51,240
[Jimi Mamou]
<i>When I left, I said,</i>

1896
01:21:51,340 --> 01:21:53,076
<i>"This isn't gonna last long."</i>

1897
01:21:53,176 --> 01:21:54,677
The crowd began to diminish.

1898
01:21:55,411 --> 01:21:56,745
So the action was dead.

1899
01:21:56,845 --> 01:21:58,147
[Vicious] <i>First thing they did</i>

1900
01:21:58,247 --> 01:22:00,249
<i>was fire the live
entertainment.</i>

1901
01:22:00,349 --> 01:22:03,686
[Derdevanis] <i>They went from band
to canned music.</i>

1902
01:22:03,786 --> 01:22:06,455
All the clubs would do that
because it was a money thing.

1903
01:22:06,555 --> 01:22:10,126
Back in the 1960s,
as many as 15 topless clubs

1904
01:22:10,226 --> 01:22:12,161
blossomed here
on the Broadway strip.

1905
01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:13,796
But in recent years, business,

1906
01:22:13,896 --> 01:22:15,798
and a few other things,
have sagged.

1907
01:22:15,898 --> 01:22:19,602
When it was on the downslide,
the customers were different.

1908
01:22:19,702 --> 01:22:21,270
[Vicious]
<i>Before, it was couples.</i>

1909
01:22:21,370 --> 01:22:24,840
<i>And it just ended up
with these guys in overcoats.</i>

1910
01:22:26,609 --> 01:22:28,978
We didn't know it at the time.
We're living through it.

1911
01:22:29,078 --> 01:22:31,280
<i>We couldn't see it
for what it was worth.</i>

1912
01:22:31,380 --> 01:22:33,882
<i>It was big before,
but it was not big now,</i>

1913
01:22:33,983 --> 01:22:35,851
<i>and it's gonna get worse.</i>

1914
01:22:35,951 --> 01:22:38,387
[mellow electric organ
music plays]

1915
01:22:38,487 --> 01:22:39,722
[Judy Mamou]
<i>They started getting girls</i>

1916
01:22:39,822 --> 01:22:41,457
<i>that weren't too good.</i>

1917
01:22:41,557 --> 01:22:42,858
<i>They'd just come in
off the street.</i>

1918
01:22:42,958 --> 01:22:43,892
<i>Didn't have gimmicks.</i>

1919
01:22:43,993 --> 01:22:45,228
<i>Didn't have pretty costumes.</i>

1920
01:22:45,328 --> 01:22:48,431
["Sleazy Street"
by Sopwith Camel plays]

1921
01:22:49,232 --> 01:22:51,667
<i>♪ Needy song
on Sleazy Street... ♪</i>

1922
01:22:51,767 --> 01:22:54,003
[Vicious] <i>It got out
of the artistic</i>

1923
01:22:54,103 --> 01:22:57,073
<i>and got into the sleazy part,
you know?</i>

1924
01:22:57,173 --> 01:22:59,642
<i>Right about the time
the porn biz came in</i>

1925
01:22:59,742 --> 01:23:04,313
<i>and the dancers realized
they could make $2,000 more</i>

1926
01:23:04,413 --> 01:23:06,882
<i>crossing the line
than they can dancing.</i>

1927
01:23:07,583 --> 01:23:09,552
<i>They had a hard time getting
young, attractive women,</i>

1928
01:23:09,652 --> 01:23:11,220
<i>so they were coming up
from the Tenderloin.</i>

1929
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,522
<i>These looked like hard chicks.</i>

1930
01:23:13,622 --> 01:23:16,992
Much more readily tell you
to fuck off.

1931
01:23:17,093 --> 01:23:18,694
<i>Hard drugs started
to come on the scene.</i>

1932
01:23:18,794 --> 01:23:21,164
<i>Mostly speed and downers.</i>

1933
01:23:21,264 --> 01:23:23,699
<i>It got dark because of that.</i>

1934
01:23:23,799 --> 01:23:25,868
[gritty electronic
pop music plays]

1935
01:23:38,047 --> 01:23:41,217
[Nelson] <i>Nude encounter parlour,
they were called.</i>

1936
01:23:41,317 --> 01:23:44,887
<i>We put up little partitions
to make private rooms.</i>

1937
01:23:44,987 --> 01:23:47,423
<i>And the girl would even
tell the guy,</i>

1938
01:23:47,523 --> 01:23:50,126
"Yeah, you can take
your clothes off if you want.

1939
01:23:50,226 --> 01:23:51,394
Do anything you want.

1940
01:23:51,494 --> 01:23:52,995
But no touching."

1941
01:23:53,562 --> 01:23:56,932
<i>I think we charged at that time
$50 an hour.</i>

1942
01:23:57,032 --> 01:24:01,070
<i>You wanna go to the back room,
it's $150 an hour.</i>

1943
01:24:01,170 --> 01:24:03,038
<i>So guys thought if they go
to the back room,</i>

1944
01:24:03,139 --> 01:24:05,241
<i>they were gonna get sex now.</i>

1945
01:24:05,341 --> 01:24:07,210
<i>All that happened
in the back room</i>

1946
01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:09,445
<i>is she'd bring another girl
in with her</i>

1947
01:24:09,545 --> 01:24:11,114
<i>so two girls would be in.</i>

1948
01:24:11,214 --> 01:24:13,048
We were, you know, conning 'em.

1949
01:24:14,083 --> 01:24:16,419
[Thanash] <i>They were rippin'
people off and all that.</i>

1950
01:24:16,519 --> 01:24:18,221
<i>We didn't do any of that.</i>

1951
01:24:18,321 --> 01:24:20,156
Tenderloin was known for that.

1952
01:24:20,256 --> 01:24:22,991
They ended up starting to buy up
all the clubs.

1953
01:24:23,092 --> 01:24:25,294
[Nelson] <i>We wanted
to get on Broadway</i>

1954
01:24:25,394 --> 01:24:27,996
<i>because that's where the
tourists were, the business.</i>

1955
01:24:28,097 --> 01:24:30,433
<i>It was hard to lure 'em
down the street.</i>

1956
01:24:30,533 --> 01:24:34,503
[Pete Mattioli] <i>The reputation
of the Tenderloin, very rough.</i>

1957
01:24:34,603 --> 01:24:36,805
All those guys packed iron.

1958
01:24:36,905 --> 01:24:38,907
[Nelson] <i>We got Big Al's,</i>

1959
01:24:39,007 --> 01:24:42,145
<i>and Big Al's we turned into
a nude encounter parlour.</i>

1960
01:24:42,878 --> 01:24:45,181
[Schildknecht] <i>I did work
at Big Al's one night.</i>

1961
01:24:45,281 --> 01:24:47,283
And I was just
really young and naïve.

1962
01:24:47,383 --> 01:24:49,485
I didn't really know
what was going on.

1963
01:24:49,918 --> 01:24:52,188
I didn't know what
that box of Kleenex was for.

1964
01:24:52,688 --> 01:24:53,989
[laughs]

1965
01:24:54,089 --> 01:24:56,359
[Nelson]
<i>Then we got across the street,</i>

1966
01:24:56,459 --> 01:24:59,528
<i>the Garden of Eden,
which was big at that time.</i>

1967
01:24:59,628 --> 01:25:02,298
<i>We turned that into
a nude encounter parlour.</i>

1968
01:25:02,398 --> 01:25:04,099
Anybody that was legitimate

1969
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,535
didn't wanna go up
against those guys,

1970
01:25:06,635 --> 01:25:08,103
so they'd sell out.

1971
01:25:08,204 --> 01:25:09,538
After a while, I got out

1972
01:25:09,638 --> 01:25:11,874
because I thought they were
gonna blow me away

1973
01:25:11,974 --> 01:25:13,209
<i>if I didn't.</i>

1974
01:25:13,309 --> 01:25:15,378
["Sad Little Girl"
by The Beau Brummels]

1975
01:25:15,478 --> 01:25:18,547
<i>They ended up ruining the
street is what they did.</i>

1976
01:25:25,321 --> 01:25:28,791
[Barbic] <i>Don Levine, he owned
the club after Mattioli.</i>

1977
01:25:28,891 --> 01:25:30,859
<i>He was very difficult
to deal with.</i>

1978
01:25:30,959 --> 01:25:33,028
<i>Carol worked for hardly
anything at all.</i>

1979
01:25:33,128 --> 01:25:36,799
<i>She got like, I think in
those days, $45 a show.</i>

1980
01:25:36,899 --> 01:25:38,301
<i>She had to get all dressed up,</i>

1981
01:25:38,401 --> 01:25:39,835
spend hours up there.

1982
01:25:40,436 --> 01:25:42,037
Carol wasn't
a very good businesswoman

1983
01:25:42,137 --> 01:25:44,006
but she was a wonderful person.

1984
01:25:44,106 --> 01:25:46,842
She should have made a whole
lot more money than she did.

1985
01:25:46,942 --> 01:25:49,144
[Doda] <i>Here I was, spending
a lot of money on costuming,</i>

1986
01:25:49,245 --> 01:25:51,113
<i>my wigs, my this, my that.</i>

1987
01:25:51,814 --> 01:25:54,183
<i>And I felt like I was holding
the world on my shoulders.</i>

1988
01:25:54,283 --> 01:25:57,253
<i>And then,
the owner at that time</i>

1989
01:25:57,353 --> 01:25:59,988
<i>was letting the club
go down the drain.</i>

1990
01:26:00,088 --> 01:26:02,090
<i>When you let someplace
deteriorate,</i>

1991
01:26:02,191 --> 01:26:04,059
<i>people are gonna notice that.</i>

1992
01:26:04,159 --> 01:26:05,661
<i>But he wanted
to take it out on me.</i>

1993
01:26:05,761 --> 01:26:07,330
<i>He just wanted me to work
on the weekends.</i>

1994
01:26:07,430 --> 01:26:09,732
<i>So he wanted to take advantage
of my name,</i>

1995
01:26:09,832 --> 01:26:12,368
<i>wanted me to take
a tremendous salary cut.</i>

1996
01:26:12,468 --> 01:26:13,769
<i>Was very demeaning</i>

1997
01:26:13,869 --> 01:26:16,605
<i>after I'd worked
so many years and so hard.</i>

1998
01:26:17,473 --> 01:26:19,708
[Thornton] <i>Very few women</i>

1999
01:26:19,808 --> 01:26:22,678
<i>have been entrepreneurial
enough</i>

2000
01:26:22,778 --> 01:26:25,514
<i>to really make a long-term
successful business</i>

2001
01:26:25,614 --> 01:26:26,849
<i>out of their chest.</i>

2002
01:26:26,949 --> 01:26:32,120
<i>It tends to be
a fleeting commodity.</i>

2003
01:26:32,221 --> 01:26:35,891
One can imagine
great anxiety around...

2004
01:26:35,991 --> 01:26:37,426
her primary asset.

2005
01:26:37,526 --> 01:26:39,127
[bawdy music plays]

2006
01:26:39,228 --> 01:26:40,929
<i>It's going out of fashion.</i>

2007
01:26:41,029 --> 01:26:45,568
<i>It's aging.
It's literal deflation.</i>

2008
01:26:46,335 --> 01:26:50,439
What is perennial out of fashion
is the old boob.

2009
01:26:50,539 --> 01:26:53,175
- How old are you now?
<i>- </i>  [Doda] <i>How old am I now?</i>

2010
01:26:54,176 --> 01:26:56,245
<i>- Well...</i>
- Are... You don't say?

2011
01:26:56,879 --> 01:26:59,482
Well, uh, I do say
or I don't say

2012
01:26:59,582 --> 01:27:01,384
but what difference
does it make?

2013
01:27:02,084 --> 01:27:04,320
It now seems absurd
to think of a woman

2014
01:27:04,420 --> 01:27:07,256
in her thirties, forties,
as aging.

2015
01:27:07,356 --> 01:27:11,660
<i>But she knew society had said
she had an expiration date.</i>

2016
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,897
[Barbic] <i>I drew up a contract
with Levine and gave it to him.</i>

2017
01:27:14,997 --> 01:27:16,665
Said, "These are the conditions
we want,"

2018
01:27:16,765 --> 01:27:18,601
<i>and I got him to sign
the agreement.</i>

2019
01:27:19,167 --> 01:27:21,670
<i>Otherwise, he never would
pay her anything.</i>

2020
01:27:22,104 --> 01:27:25,441
<i>And Don Levine is the one that
brought Jimmy the Beard in</i>

2021
01:27:25,541 --> 01:27:27,109
<i>as the protector.</i>

2022
01:27:27,209 --> 01:27:29,678
<i>Because there was other people
that wanted to muscle in</i>

2023
01:27:29,778 --> 01:27:31,680
<i>on some of the clubs
on Broadway.</i>

2024
01:27:31,780 --> 01:27:35,351
["Seek & Destroy"
by Metallica plays]

2025
01:27:42,758 --> 01:27:44,026
[Nelson] <i>Jimmy the Beard.</i>

2026
01:27:44,593 --> 01:27:46,995
<i>He was the manager
of the Condor.</i>

2027
01:27:47,563 --> 01:27:49,598
<i>Tough guy, but he didn't act
like a tough guy.</i>

2028
01:27:49,698 --> 01:27:51,434
Was not a bully.

2029
01:27:51,534 --> 01:27:54,637
But I knew he's not somebody
that you'd wanna mess with.

2030
01:27:55,270 --> 01:27:57,506
[Faulknor] <i>If there was a fight,
and there were occasionally,</i>

2031
01:27:57,606 --> 01:27:59,842
<i>never more than three or four
punches thrown</i>

2032
01:27:59,942 --> 01:28:01,944
<i>because Jimmy was the best.</i>

2033
01:28:02,044 --> 01:28:03,612
If there was any hot action,
he was on it.

2034
01:28:03,712 --> 01:28:04,847
I mean, he was gruff

2035
01:28:04,947 --> 01:28:06,549
and it was just,
whatever he said went.

2036
01:28:06,649 --> 01:28:07,883
But everybody liked him

2037
01:28:07,983 --> 01:28:09,818
'cause he had one
of those personalities.

2038
01:28:09,918 --> 01:28:13,021
<i>And his wife, Ginger,
was my friend.</i>

2039
01:28:13,121 --> 01:28:15,057
<i>Ginger was a dancer
and a waitress.</i>

2040
01:28:15,157 --> 01:28:17,326
[Nelson]
<i>They end up moving to Vegas,</i>

2041
01:28:17,426 --> 01:28:20,363
<i>and Jimmy got in a fight
with the son</i>

2042
01:28:20,463 --> 01:28:22,998
<i>of one of the big Mafia guys
in Vegas.</i>

2043
01:28:23,098 --> 01:28:24,500
He beats
the hell out of the guy.

2044
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,135
Think he put the guy
in the hospital.

2045
01:28:27,235 --> 01:28:28,537
Anyway, when this happened,

2046
01:28:28,637 --> 01:28:30,739
the word got out that
they're gonna kill him.

2047
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:33,909
[Pete Mattioli] <i>He came to me,
told me what happened.</i>

2048
01:28:34,009 --> 01:28:35,711
<i>I says, "Oh, Jesus, Jimmy."</i>

2049
01:28:35,811 --> 01:28:38,146
<i>"You're gonna have to have eyes
behind your head."</i>

2050
01:28:38,614 --> 01:28:39,915
He says, "For how long?"

2051
01:28:40,015 --> 01:28:41,850
I says, "Forever."

2052
01:28:41,950 --> 01:28:43,886
-"They're gonna get you."
- Bizarre.

2053
01:28:43,986 --> 01:28:46,822
Perhaps the most overused word
on television newscasts.

2054
01:28:46,922 --> 01:28:50,393
But how else to describe
the death of Jimmy the Beard?

2055
01:28:50,493 --> 01:28:51,894
[Shank] <i>The lights may be on,</i>

2056
01:28:51,994 --> 01:28:53,862
<i>but the Condor club
is sealed tight.</i>

2057
01:28:53,962 --> 01:28:57,400
<i>Homicide investigates
the bizarre death of this man,</i>

2058
01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,002
<i>James "the Beard" Ferrozzo.</i>

2059
01:29:00,102 --> 01:29:03,005
[Derdevanis] <i>He came in really
drunk and was with a girl.</i>

2060
01:29:03,105 --> 01:29:04,773
<i>They were drinking
Green Chartreuse,</i>

2061
01:29:04,873 --> 01:29:05,974
<i>I remember that clearly.</i>

2062
01:29:06,074 --> 01:29:07,443
<i>It's pretty strong stuff.</i>

2063
01:29:07,543 --> 01:29:09,244
He said, "Phil, you can
go home now."

2064
01:29:09,344 --> 01:29:11,580
I knew what that meant.
They wanted to party.

2065
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,081
[Schildknecht]
<i>Ginger called me up.</i>

2066
01:29:13,181 --> 01:29:15,017
<i>She said, "Jimmy didn't
come home last night."</i>

2067
01:29:15,117 --> 01:29:17,886
<i>I said, "Weren't you worried
when he didn't come home?"</i>

2068
01:29:17,986 --> 01:29:19,688
She said, "Well, that wasn't
the first night

2069
01:29:19,788 --> 01:29:21,089
he didn't come home all night."

2070
01:29:21,189 --> 01:29:24,126
I found the guy,
and I lost a good friend.

2071
01:29:24,226 --> 01:29:26,929
<i>- What happened, do you know?
- </i>  Crushed to d-- He's crushed.

2072
01:29:27,029 --> 01:29:29,364
[Shank] <i>Found at 10:00
this morning on top of a piano</i>

2073
01:29:29,465 --> 01:29:31,066
<i>suspended in the air.</i>

2074
01:29:31,166 --> 01:29:32,701
<i>He was fully clothed.</i>

2075
01:29:32,801 --> 01:29:36,071
<i>Next to him, naked,
was 23-year-old Theresa Hill.</i>

2076
01:29:36,171 --> 01:29:38,941
I heard the girl's voice.

2077
01:29:39,041 --> 01:29:40,776
So I went through
the dressing room

2078
01:29:40,876 --> 01:29:43,712
and through the tunnel where
Carol Doda goes to do her show

2079
01:29:44,179 --> 01:29:46,248
and saw that the girl was alive.

2080
01:29:46,348 --> 01:29:49,017
And I reached down
and felt Jimmy.

2081
01:29:49,652 --> 01:29:51,987
And... Well, I knew he was dead.

2082
01:29:52,087 --> 01:29:54,122
[Shank] <i>The survivor,
incoherent when found.</i>

2083
01:29:54,222 --> 01:29:56,492
<i>She says she remembers nothing
of what happened.</i>

2084
01:29:56,592 --> 01:29:58,427
[Thanash] <i>They had been
partying all night.</i>

2085
01:29:58,527 --> 01:29:59,928
There he is

2086
01:30:00,028 --> 01:30:02,164
with his head right in her bush.

2087
01:30:02,264 --> 01:30:06,635
And laying on the bar are these
lines of blow, cocaine.

2088
01:30:06,735 --> 01:30:08,637
<i>I said, "I better
get rid of this stuff</i>

2089
01:30:08,737 --> 01:30:10,138
<i>before the heat comes."</i>

2090
01:30:10,238 --> 01:30:12,808
<i>So I didn't blow it
off the bar.</i>

2091
01:30:12,908 --> 01:30:15,077
<i>I stuffed it up my nose.</i>

2092
01:30:15,177 --> 01:30:16,912
[laughs]

2093
01:30:19,247 --> 01:30:20,883
The whole place
is turned upside down.

2094
01:30:20,983 --> 01:30:22,618
Chairs upside down.

2095
01:30:22,718 --> 01:30:24,352
<i>A fight went on in there.</i>

2096
01:30:24,453 --> 01:30:26,522
[reporter 21] <i>When homicide
inspectors finally came out,</i>

2097
01:30:26,622 --> 01:30:28,190
<i>they weren't sure.</i>

2098
01:30:28,290 --> 01:30:30,158
It appears to be a homicide,
but that's all we know now.

2099
01:30:30,258 --> 01:30:32,327
[reporter 21] <i>Maybe. Maybe not.</i>

2100
01:30:32,427 --> 01:30:34,329
<i>But everybody
who knew anything about it</i>

2101
01:30:34,429 --> 01:30:36,599
<i>knows that piano
moves up slowly.</i>

2102
01:30:36,699 --> 01:30:39,001
<i>And though it's controlled
from a separate panel,</i>

2103
01:30:39,101 --> 01:30:42,437
<i>it can also be stopped with
a switch on the piano itself.</i>

2104
01:30:43,138 --> 01:30:44,940
<i>If you know
where the switch is.</i>

2105
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:47,142
[Pete Mattioli] <i>What I believe
is they killed him.</i>

2106
01:30:47,242 --> 01:30:49,111
[Schildknecht]
<i>I think it was a setup.</i>

2107
01:30:49,211 --> 01:30:50,713
Yeah, I think
they killed him first.

2108
01:30:50,813 --> 01:30:53,649
[Pete Mattioli]
<i>But Art has another theory.</i>

2109
01:30:53,749 --> 01:30:56,118
[Thanash] <i>I think it was
a total accident.</i>

2110
01:30:56,218 --> 01:30:58,554
He had on cowboy boots.

2111
01:30:58,654 --> 01:31:01,356
His toe hit the up button

2112
01:31:01,890 --> 01:31:05,260
and he was too goofed-up
to know that it was moving.

2113
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:06,895
He woulda loved
that story though.

2114
01:31:06,995 --> 01:31:09,131
Jimmy would've loved it.
[laughs]

2115
01:31:09,231 --> 01:31:10,866
It's a great story, right?

2116
01:31:10,966 --> 01:31:14,369
The piano goes up and his foot
just happens to hit the switch

2117
01:31:14,469 --> 01:31:16,471
that's way over there,
by the way.

2118
01:31:16,572 --> 01:31:18,173
Maybe they just
threw her up there

2119
01:31:18,273 --> 01:31:19,908
and they threw him on her

2120
01:31:20,008 --> 01:31:21,844
and they sent the piano up.

2121
01:31:21,944 --> 01:31:24,913
And they told the girl,
"We're not gonna kill you.

2122
01:31:25,013 --> 01:31:26,649
<i>Now you get outta town.</i>

2123
01:31:26,749 --> 01:31:28,751
<i>Don't ever come
back here again."</i>

2124
01:31:28,851 --> 01:31:31,353
<i>But that's how Jimmy the Beard,
why he got killed.</i>

2125
01:31:33,088 --> 01:31:36,391
[ominous ambient rumbling]

2126
01:31:41,630 --> 01:31:44,266
[reporter 22] <i>Since that bizarre
accident last week,</i>

2127
01:31:44,366 --> 01:31:45,734
<i>Carol Doda's been off work.</i>

2128
01:31:46,434 --> 01:31:49,838
<i>Tonight, she returns,
and the piano still sits there.</i>

2129
01:31:49,938 --> 01:31:53,075
[Doda] <i>When I was using it,
it was like part of me.</i>

2130
01:31:53,175 --> 01:31:55,343
But now, I mean, the things
that happened on it

2131
01:31:55,443 --> 01:31:57,245
are certainly not a part of me.

2132
01:31:57,345 --> 01:31:59,281
And I really can't relate
to it anymore.

2133
01:31:59,381 --> 01:32:02,517
["Nothing Else Matters"
by Metallica plays]

2134
01:32:17,165 --> 01:32:19,735
[Moore] <i>When Carol retired
from the Condor,</i>

2135
01:32:19,835 --> 01:32:22,237
<i>she had to reinvent herself.</i>

2136
01:32:22,337 --> 01:32:26,474
<i>In the '80s, it still was hard
for women to survive.</i>

2137
01:32:26,575 --> 01:32:29,511
She was really scared
to support herself,

2138
01:32:29,612 --> 01:32:33,081
so she was struggling
to figure out how.

2139
01:32:37,152 --> 01:32:41,389
[Martin] <i>She was not going to
accept her expiration date.</i>

2140
01:32:41,489 --> 01:32:44,960
She was going to deny it,
work with it,

2141
01:32:45,060 --> 01:32:47,429
work around it, blow it up.

2142
01:32:47,529 --> 01:32:50,432
["Nothing Else Matters"
continues]

2143
01:32:52,367 --> 01:32:54,302
[Doda] <i>The best thing
in my life right now</i>

2144
01:32:54,402 --> 01:32:55,904
<i>is my rock and roll show,</i>

2145
01:32:56,004 --> 01:32:58,774
<i>and it's called Carol Doda
and Her Lucky Stiffs.</i>

2146
01:32:59,507 --> 01:33:02,811
And I have my
adult fantasy line.

2147
01:33:02,911 --> 01:33:05,748
[breathy] Yeah. You've got it.

2148
01:33:05,848 --> 01:33:08,083
<i>976-D-O-D-A.</i>

2149
01:33:08,183 --> 01:33:10,853
[breathy] You're such a...
handsome guy.

2150
01:33:10,953 --> 01:33:12,688
[Moore] <i>She was kind of
a jack of all trades</i>

2151
01:33:12,788 --> 01:33:16,825
<i>at trying to find ways
to bring in income.</i>

2152
01:33:16,925 --> 01:33:18,493
[reporter 23]
<i>Carol Doda is marketing</i>

2153
01:33:18,593 --> 01:33:20,996
<i>her own line
of skin moisturizers,</i>

2154
01:33:21,096 --> 01:33:23,632
<i>and she also exercises
every day.</i>

2155
01:33:23,732 --> 01:33:24,833
<i>Who is Carol Doda?</i>

2156
01:33:24,933 --> 01:33:26,669
Know what I am? A court jester.

2157
01:33:26,769 --> 01:33:29,337
Makes people laugh, entertains
people. That's all I am.

2158
01:33:29,437 --> 01:33:31,273
Is there a serious side
to Carol Doda?

2159
01:33:31,373 --> 01:33:33,676
I've seen my serious side.
Forget it.

2160
01:33:33,776 --> 01:33:36,144
Why not laugh, huh?
Why not laugh at yourself?

2161
01:33:36,244 --> 01:33:38,380
[upbeat electronic music plays]

2162
01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:39,682
[yells]

2163
01:33:39,782 --> 01:33:41,483
[host] <i>Carol Doda,
how are you?</i>

2164
01:33:41,583 --> 01:33:42,951
I'm fine. How are you?

2165
01:33:43,051 --> 01:33:44,853
- So whatcha doin' nowadays?
- I got a boutique.

2166
01:33:44,953 --> 01:33:46,789
Champagne and lace
lingerie boutique.

2167
01:33:46,889 --> 01:33:50,558
[Nelson] <i>In this little side
street off of Union Street...</i>

2168
01:33:50,659 --> 01:33:53,295
[Morse] <i>She had this really nice
boutique salon.</i>

2169
01:33:53,395 --> 01:33:56,665
[Moore] <i>With custom-sized bras
and lingerie.</i>

2170
01:33:56,765 --> 01:33:59,234
I have nice dresses like this.
You like this dress?

2171
01:33:59,968 --> 01:34:01,336
- Yeah.
- She hasn't changed much.

2172
01:34:01,436 --> 01:34:03,071
- Look.
- [laughter]

2173
01:34:03,171 --> 01:34:04,639
[Valkanoff] <i>She went through</i>

2174
01:34:04,740 --> 01:34:06,408
<i>so many bra sizes
in her career,</i>

2175
01:34:06,508 --> 01:34:08,911
<i>she could look at somebody
and know their bra size.</i>

2176
01:34:09,011 --> 01:34:10,378
<i>She was a master.</i>

2177
01:34:10,478 --> 01:34:12,147
A lot of people that
were her customers,

2178
01:34:12,247 --> 01:34:13,716
they weren't really customers.

2179
01:34:13,816 --> 01:34:15,751
<i>They were people that wanted
to come and see her.</i>

2180
01:34:15,851 --> 01:34:17,720
<i>The legendary Carol Doda.</i>

2181
01:34:17,820 --> 01:34:19,521
[Peggy Lee] <i>* Just in time ♪</i>

2182
01:34:19,621 --> 01:34:23,025
[man 11] <i>I think my father was
a little star-struck initially.</i>

2183
01:34:23,125 --> 01:34:26,561
<i>They met for the first time
at Gino & Carlo's</i>

2184
01:34:26,661 --> 01:34:29,231
<i>which is a very famous
watering hole in North Beach.</i>

2185
01:34:29,331 --> 01:34:31,233
<i>My father, he loved her for her</i>

2186
01:34:31,333 --> 01:34:34,369
and not for "Carol Doda"
the image,

2187
01:34:34,469 --> 01:34:36,004
the marquee, the superstar.

2188
01:34:36,939 --> 01:34:39,441
<i>He was her boyfriend
for a lot of years.</i>

2189
01:34:39,541 --> 01:34:41,176
<i>He really took care of her.</i>

2190
01:34:41,276 --> 01:34:42,677
<i>Carol and my dad, Jay,</i>

2191
01:34:42,778 --> 01:34:44,947
<i>were together
for about ten years.</i>

2192
01:34:45,047 --> 01:34:46,782
<i>That was
the longest relationship</i>

2193
01:34:46,882 --> 01:34:48,383
<i>Carol had ever had.</i>

2194
01:34:48,483 --> 01:34:49,852
[Moore] <i>She just adored him.</i>

2195
01:34:49,952 --> 01:34:52,587
She described him
as the love of her life.

2196
01:34:52,687 --> 01:34:54,122
Her best friend.

2197
01:34:54,222 --> 01:34:56,591
"Just in Time" song, I think
it had a deep meaning

2198
01:34:56,691 --> 01:34:58,260
between my father and Carol.

2199
01:34:58,360 --> 01:34:59,694
Whenever she'd hit the stage,

2200
01:34:59,795 --> 01:35:01,563
<i>she'd sing "Just in Time"
and point at him</i>

2201
01:35:01,663 --> 01:35:03,498
<i>and look at him the whole time.</i>

2202
01:35:04,032 --> 01:35:06,835
<i>♪ You found me just in time ♪</i>

2203
01:35:08,136 --> 01:35:11,573
<i>♪ And changed
my lonely life... ♪</i>

2204
01:35:11,673 --> 01:35:13,408
[North] <i>He saved her
and she saved him</i>

2205
01:35:13,508 --> 01:35:16,444
<i>in many regards as well.</i>

2206
01:35:16,544 --> 01:35:20,048
[Moore] <i>When Jay passed away,
it hit her really hard.</i>

2207
01:35:20,148 --> 01:35:23,551
["Sleep Walk"
by The Ventures plays]

2208
01:35:28,690 --> 01:35:30,292
[Moore] <i>Her health
was deteriorating</i>

2209
01:35:30,392 --> 01:35:31,994
<i>in different ways.</i>

2210
01:35:32,094 --> 01:35:35,931
<i>The doctors said that
the effects of the silicone</i>

2211
01:35:36,031 --> 01:35:39,835
<i>had caused a disease
called Goodpasture syndrome.</i>

2212
01:35:39,935 --> 01:35:42,204
<i>It attacks your kidneys
and your lungs.</i>

2213
01:35:43,005 --> 01:35:44,439
<i>She was very ill,</i>

2214
01:35:44,539 --> 01:35:46,842
<i>and she insists
on going to the Tupelo.</i>

2215
01:35:47,575 --> 01:35:49,978
<i>She was adamant.
"People are counting on me.</i>

2216
01:35:50,078 --> 01:35:51,613
<i>I gave 'em my word."</i>

2217
01:35:51,713 --> 01:35:54,516
[North]
<i>She lived to be on stage.</i>

2218
01:35:54,616 --> 01:35:57,219
<i>That was her whole
raison d'etre.</i>

2219
01:35:57,953 --> 01:36:01,089
[Moore] <i>So we ended up relenting
and we took her to the Tupelo.</i>

2220
01:36:01,189 --> 01:36:05,293
<i>And Carol pulls out this sack
of makeup out of her purse</i>

2221
01:36:05,393 --> 01:36:07,262
and starts drawing eyebrows

2222
01:36:07,362 --> 01:36:10,165
and drawing the eyeliner
around her eyes

2223
01:36:10,265 --> 01:36:12,901
<i>and transforms herself
into Carol.</i>

2224
01:36:13,368 --> 01:36:16,104
She's <i>the</i> icon of North Beach

2225
01:36:16,204 --> 01:36:19,541
<i>and has been for many years.
Miss Carol Doda.</i>

2226
01:36:19,641 --> 01:36:21,509
[cheering]

2227
01:36:21,609 --> 01:36:25,380
[Moore] <i>I remember
her walking very slowly</i>

2228
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:27,615
<i>because her breathing
was labored.</i>

2229
01:36:27,715 --> 01:36:30,118
<i>She would put her hand
on the keyboard</i>

2230
01:36:30,218 --> 01:36:31,887
<i>and feel the music</i>

2231
01:36:31,987 --> 01:36:34,056
<i>because she couldn't hear.</i>

2232
01:36:34,156 --> 01:36:38,160
And she broke out in "All of Me"

2233
01:36:38,260 --> 01:36:40,695
<i>like she's done
a million times.</i>

2234
01:36:40,795 --> 01:36:42,097
<i>♪ All of me ♪</i>

2235
01:36:43,265 --> 01:36:44,933
<i>♪ Why not take all of me ♪</i>

2236
01:36:46,969 --> 01:36:51,573
<i>♪ Can't you see I'm no good
without you ♪</i>

2237
01:36:53,241 --> 01:36:55,043
<i>♪ Take my lips ♪</i>

2238
01:36:55,677 --> 01:36:57,612
<i>♪ I'll never use them ♪</i>

2239
01:36:59,314 --> 01:37:00,949
<i>♪ Take my arms ♪</i>

2240
01:37:02,517 --> 01:37:05,753
<i>♪ I won't use them ♪</i>

2241
01:37:07,122 --> 01:37:08,857
<i>♪ Your goodbye ♪</i>

2242
01:37:09,424 --> 01:37:12,594
<i>♪ Left me with eyes that cry ♪</i>

2243
01:37:13,328 --> 01:37:16,731
<i>♪ How can I go on without ♪</i>

2244
01:37:18,133 --> 01:37:20,135
<i>♪ You took that part ♪</i>

2245
01:37:20,835 --> 01:37:24,006
<i>♪ That once was my heart ♪</i>

2246
01:37:24,106 --> 01:37:28,543
<i>♪ So why not
Why not take all of me ♪</i>

2247
01:37:28,643 --> 01:37:30,045
<i>Okay, boys.</i>

2248
01:37:30,145 --> 01:37:32,614
<i>♪ Why not ♪</i>

2249
01:37:33,681 --> 01:37:37,385
<i>♪ I said, why not ♪</i>

2250
01:37:37,485 --> 01:37:40,055
[band plays musical flourish]

2251
01:37:40,155 --> 01:37:42,958
<i>♪ Why not, baby ♪</i>

2252
01:37:44,292 --> 01:37:50,732
<i>♪ Why not take all of me ♪</i>

2253
01:37:51,199 --> 01:37:55,303
<i>♪ Oh, yeah ♪</i>

2254
01:37:55,403 --> 01:37:58,706
[cheering, applause]

2255
01:37:59,241 --> 01:38:02,077
- [cheering fades]
- [somber piano notes play]

2256
01:38:02,177 --> 01:38:05,013
[light and tender piano
rendition of "All of Me"]

2257
01:38:12,921 --> 01:38:15,590
[Doda] <i>Your frustrations
have to come out some way.</i>

2258
01:38:15,690 --> 01:38:18,026
<i>So mine come out
in my drawings.</i>

2259
01:38:20,428 --> 01:38:22,664
I believe in entertainment.

2260
01:38:22,764 --> 01:38:24,432
And I believe in love.

2261
01:38:26,001 --> 01:38:27,135
Why, all of a sudden,

2262
01:38:27,235 --> 01:38:28,971
is everybody becoming
so puritanical?

2263
01:38:29,071 --> 01:38:31,639
Are they afraid of the body?

2264
01:38:31,739 --> 01:38:34,642
Are they afraid that people
don't have minds of their own?

2265
01:38:34,742 --> 01:38:36,878
I think I'll just go on
doing my act.

2266
01:38:44,252 --> 01:38:46,121
I think we've
covered everything.

2267
01:38:48,023 --> 01:38:51,759
[gentle piano flourish
to end song]

2268
01:38:55,530 --> 01:38:58,833
[up-tempo,
jazzy pop rock music plays]

2269
01:40:29,824 --> 01:40:31,226
[music fades]



