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Recently, I was contacted by a content creator

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who came across my films and

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liked how they looked.

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She asked if she could hire me for a day

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to shoot her going around New York City.

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I said yes - and asked if, in lieu of payment,

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I could later do a documentary on her,

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comprised of a sit-down interview in her bedroom.

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She agreed.

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This is that documentary.

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Here, just clap, so that I have the audio.

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Okay, cool.

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[Signing the release form]

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Alright.

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Um, so, who are you?

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Hi, I'm Rachael Hunger, um, [Rachael Hunger]

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I live now in New York,

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used to live in Albany, but...

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I'm still getting used to it. Um...

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Why are we here today?

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Well, we're, I guess, here to

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shoot a little documentary,

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since you were so kind and gracious

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in allowing me to film with you

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for my UGC.

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I really appreciate it, so, here we
are. [UGC = User-Generated Content]

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Um, alright, so what's it,

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what's it like being a content creator?

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Or, is that what you call yourself?

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I don't want to assume.

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(she giggles)

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Yeah, because I

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do feel like 'influencer',

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it sounds so, like, uppity,

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so yeah, I would say 'content creator',

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and I'm definitely not, like,

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I don't have a million followers,

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I'm not like Lele Pons, I'm just like,

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just doing basic stuff, y'know?

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Showing people around,

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basically taking them throughout my day,

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in little bits and pieces with me,

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whether it's getting ready,

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or going to lunch,

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or trying out a new spot for a drink.

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That kind of stuff.

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And when did you get started doing this?

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How long have you been doing it?

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I've been doing it for the last

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like two years, I'd say,

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hardcore, but,

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more seriously in this last year.

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Um, trying to get actual payments

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for my jobs.

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So, where are you at in your career?

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Like, do you feel like

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you have a lot of followers?

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Do you feel like, um, you still have

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room to grow? Like,

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how do you feel about your career

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as a 'content creator'?

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Well, I mean, 23,000 is good,

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but I feel like I want to do better if
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because, I don't know, it seems to me

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that based on my experiences thus far, um,

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I've gotten a lot of like, free deals and stuff,

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um, coupons even...

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When I first started,

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that was like, the only thing I got

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in return for posting about something.

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Um, but yeah, I think like, coupons,

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um, all that stuff is fine,

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but it really doesn't pay the bills, so,

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that's what I'm going for.

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I'm looking to hopefully

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get some brand endorsements

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that are legit,

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and have a contract where like

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I post X amount for this amount of money,

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and it's guaranteed. Um,

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so yeah, that's my goal, um,

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right now I'm getting there,

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I had a, a little 50 dollar payment,

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that was something.

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It was like 'oh, here's a little endorsement

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to our spot', but it wasn't

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actual money, it was still like, to be,

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received and tendered at their location.

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It was like a pizzeria.

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(she chuckles)

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Which sounds so corny, but, (she chuckles)

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You know, it's something.

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It gets me out there.

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So, where are you from?

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What's, what's your, what's your story?

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Well, I'm from a little outside of Albany,

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um, but in the area that I was in,

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it was very 'the sticks' pretty much,

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so, a little farm-y, you know?

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crops,

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but not that much, it was just

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really in that like, area in my town,

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that specifically,

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a little isolated, if you will.

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A little 'Children of the Corn'.

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I prefer New York City.

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What do you like about New York City?

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Uh, I love the people, I feel like

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where I grew up it was so quiet

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and desolate, if you will. Uh,

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kinda, like I said, 'Children of the Corn'. Um,

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so it was nice to be able to get out

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and visit the city every once in a while

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as a teenager,

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even as a kid I would sometimes

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do it with my family, but.

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Have you seen 'Children of the Corn'?

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I have, and it's quite haunting.

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Chilling, if you will.

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There's a lot of those, I think there's like

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there might be like 9 or 10 different

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'Children of the Corn' movies at this point.

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Are there really?

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I think there are.

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Because when I was growing up,

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there was like a bunch of sequels that were

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like straight-to-video.

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- Oh, yeah. - And then I think they've done like

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a remake maybe,

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and then like, other ones or something,

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but I think there might be like 9 or 10.

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Oh wow, oh my god.

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Yeah. I have only seen maybe the first one

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and the second one, I think.

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And what'd you think?

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I, I think like, the premise is better

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than the actual movie.

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You know? It's one of those.

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- Definitely. - Like, yeah.

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(he chuckles) - There was like a kid pastor, right?

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Ugh, my god, he got...

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He gave me the creeps, I didn't like him. - Mhm.

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Do you like horror movies?

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Um, I do a little,

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I'm trying to think of like what my

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favorite one might be.

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I have a hard time nowadays

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sitting through movies, like all the way.

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If I'm honest, my attention span is just shot.

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'Saw'.

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That was really good, in my opinion. - Yeah, 'Saw' is good.

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Yeah, the special effects are crazy.

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Like, I don't know how they do all that. - Mhm. Yeah.

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I know a little bit, but not everything.

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Do you feel like that's something

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you would ever want to do, like,

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just be in movies, or anything like that?

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because yes, um,

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I considered going to like acting school

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when I first kinda moved out here,

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which was like just last month, um,

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in theory, I could save up for it, I could do it.

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Not sure how long film is gonna like last.

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You know what I mean?

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Everyone's attention span is like shot to shit.

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Frankly, just like mine, so,

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that will go on for. You know what I mean? Like,

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I think it's cool, don't get me wrong,

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to a degree, uh,

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but I just can't sit through them anymore,

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and I'd rather watch like something

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shorter if I could,

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because time is money, and...

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What do you mean by 'shorter'?

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Like how short?

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still kind of like old school, but. - Mhm.

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because like usually they're pretty short,

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and they don't need to be on for like 40 minutes.

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It can be like a quick 10-minute

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'Get Ready With Me' or

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'go to Sephora with me' or...

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So, you watch that stuff? Like even like,

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because you, I know you make that stuff,

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but like you will actually like watch

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somebody else doing that stuff?

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I'm not bit-biting or anything,

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but I am kind of taking inspiration from stuff,

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because, you know, there's nothing

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new under the sun, somebody said that, right? Um,

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to get that inspiration,

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plus I low key enjoy it, because

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it's like getting to spend time with

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another person,

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without actually having to like do anything,

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you can just chill.

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That's interesting, I never would have thought

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that like content creators watch other

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content creators.

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- Yeah- - Like it, it just feels like it's a very um...

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I don't know, it's like your own pursuit,

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and I would feel like

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it would be something that you would just like

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get sick of, or something.

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the only thing that I get sick of sometimes

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is like trying to film.

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That's probably the hardest thing, for me. - Mhm.

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Um, just because like

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it's not always opportune,

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and I'm usually by myself trying to do it,

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and I feel kind of ridiculous like

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trying to do a oh 'here's me in New York',

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and I have to be alone like on Chelsea Pier

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trying to get a photo with like my

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my stand and all that. Ugh.

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It's just awkward.

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So, I think that's like the most annoying

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part about it, to be fair.

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Everything else is fine. - Do you ever,

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do you ever feel like silly like

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when you're in public and like you're shooting

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content and like people are looking at you weird,

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or anything, or?

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All the time.

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Yeah, and you can't tell me they're not,

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I know they are. (she chuckles)

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Plus, I've seen those videos on TikTok,

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of people like

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oh, 'influencer in the wild',

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or things like that, ugh.

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I just pray and hope

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that I'm never on it. (she chuckles)

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What's something like embarrassing about you?

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Like I don't mean like career-ending,

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but just something like

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that you know, like, cute embarrassing, like,

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curious, you know?

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- That's hard. - Like harmless embarrassing.

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Like just like a tidbit. You know like a

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I don't know.

270
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Mm.

271
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Harmless tidbit.

272
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(he chuckles)

273
00:09:14,083 --> 00:09:15,792
Do you have any like guilty pleasures,

274
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entertainment-wise or life-wise? - Oh.

275
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Yes,

276
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definitely, um,

277
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something pretty much no one knows is that

278
00:09:25,542 --> 00:09:27,958
like when I'm not watching other influencers

279
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talk about stuff,

280
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and products, whatever,

281
00:09:31,542 --> 00:09:34,958
I go and look at metal detectors online,

282
00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,999
so I can like kinda see what they're doing

283
00:09:37,041 --> 00:09:38,666
and try to go to locations,

284
00:09:38,708 --> 00:09:40,541
because I, I asked for a metal detector

285
00:09:40,583 --> 00:09:42,375
two Christmases ago and

286
00:09:42,417 --> 00:09:44,416
I've been using it intermittently here and there,

287
00:09:44,458 --> 00:09:46,917
- haven't found anything.
- You use a, you use a metal detector

288
00:09:46,959 --> 00:09:49,375
in New York City? Oh, okay. - Not in New York City, but like

289
00:09:49,417 --> 00:09:51,999
when I was still home, I could use it outside

290
00:09:52,041 --> 00:09:54,291
and just like go to random places because

291
00:09:54,333 --> 00:09:57,166
honestly, there is a lot of history to New York

292
00:09:57,208 --> 00:09:59,999
- and, yeah, there's a lot of cool stuff.
- What have you found,

293
00:10:00,041 --> 00:10:03,834
- have you found anything cool?
- I can show you, if you want.

294
00:10:04,792 --> 00:10:07,083
These are some of my beautiful coins.

295
00:10:07,125 --> 00:10:10,917
This is probably a quarter, more than likely.

296
00:10:10,959 --> 00:10:13,458
Um, what else do I have here?

297
00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:15,249
This one looks like a dime,

298
00:10:15,291 --> 00:10:18,375
but very very severely

299
00:10:18,417 --> 00:10:20,541
weathered and worn.

300
00:10:20,583 --> 00:10:21,416
As is this one,

301
00:10:21,458 --> 00:10:23,041
these are all from the beach.

302
00:10:23,083 --> 00:10:25,041
Um, I went to Rockaway

303
00:10:25,083 --> 00:10:26,208
two months ago,

304
00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:28,291
and yeah, these are uh, these are them.

305
00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:30,166
So, you've never, you've never shown this

306
00:10:30,208 --> 00:10:32,083
on like with content or anything?

307
00:10:32,125 --> 00:10:34,208
You've never like, metal-detected?

308
00:10:34,250 --> 00:10:35,708
- No, because- - Why?

309
00:10:35,750 --> 00:10:38,083
(he chuckles) - Because like, I don't know, I think

310
00:10:38,125 --> 00:10:41,458
it would, it's not really my brand, per se.

311
00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:42,333
People would...

312
00:10:42,375 --> 00:10:43,958
I think that would be cool.

313
00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:44,666
You think so?

314
00:10:44,708 --> 00:10:48,041
- I, I would watch some like metal-detecting.

315
00:10:48,083 --> 00:10:50,583
I, I, I'm just now hearing of like metal-detecting

316
00:10:50,625 --> 00:10:53,083
as like a category of video,

317
00:10:53,125 --> 00:10:54,249
I never even heard of that.

318
00:10:54,291 --> 00:10:56,666
No, yeah, it's really fun, um,

319
00:10:56,708 --> 00:10:58,500
A lot of people do it, and it it

320
00:10:58,542 --> 00:10:59,958
for the most part is uneventful,

321
00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:01,375
just like the real thing, because,

322
00:11:01,417 --> 00:11:02,500
it's just walking around,

323
00:11:02,542 --> 00:11:04,375
waiting to find a spot, but,

324
00:11:04,417 --> 00:11:05,625
when they do, it's really fun,

325
00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:07,999
and I'm like, ugh, I'm craving that like

326
00:11:08,041 --> 00:11:10,124
just give me something cool!

327
00:11:10,166 --> 00:11:13,124
Old Victorian object or something, however,

328
00:11:13,166 --> 00:11:15,708
I don't film that, only because, um,

329
00:11:17,208 --> 00:11:18,041
I don't know,

330
00:11:18,083 --> 00:11:21,625
I, I don't think the image that I've cultivated

331
00:11:21,667 --> 00:11:24,041
in my like online presence

332
00:11:24,083 --> 00:11:27,083
would translate well with that content.

333
00:11:27,125 --> 00:11:30,208
Like, I don't even speak in my videos,

334
00:11:30,250 --> 00:11:32,166
let alone like

335
00:11:32,208 --> 00:11:35,958
show my day-to-day really, like.

336
00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,249
Yeah, it's weird, like um,

337
00:11:38,291 --> 00:11:41,583
does it does it feel weird being seen talking?

338
00:11:42,917 --> 00:11:44,208
A little bit. (she giggles)

339
00:11:44,250 --> 00:11:45,416
Well, you're not right now,

340
00:11:45,458 --> 00:11:46,583
because we literally just see

341
00:11:46,625 --> 00:11:48,875
your pants and the coins, but we

342
00:11:48,917 --> 00:11:51,041
we just shot stuff where you were like

343
00:11:51,083 --> 00:11:52,917
you were straight-up talking to the camera,

344
00:11:52,959 --> 00:11:55,666
that was like, was that weird?

345
00:11:55,708 --> 00:11:57,500
Yeah, I was just trying to focus on you,

346
00:11:57,542 --> 00:11:59,249
I was like oh yeah, I just, (he chuckles)

347
00:11:59,291 --> 00:12:00,375
I'm talking to a person.

348
00:12:00,417 --> 00:12:02,208
(she chuckles) - Yeah, alright, I'm gonna cut,

349
00:12:02,250 --> 00:12:05,249
and we can talk more about like what that's like.

350
00:12:05,291 --> 00:12:06,208
Yeah yeah.

351
00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:07,416
Alright, so here you are,

352
00:12:07,458 --> 00:12:08,625
staring at the camera,

353
00:12:08,667 --> 00:12:10,375
and talking,

354
00:12:10,417 --> 00:12:12,625
and that's something you

355
00:12:12,667 --> 00:12:13,541
don't normally do,

356
00:12:13,583 --> 00:12:16,208
so let's talk about that, um,

357
00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:18,625
why don't you talk in your content?

358
00:12:18,667 --> 00:12:20,041
What's, what's that about,

359
00:12:20,083 --> 00:12:23,291
when you're your persona, or your character,

360
00:12:23,333 --> 00:12:25,666
I don't know what to call it, but, um,

361
00:12:25,708 --> 00:12:28,708
why don't you talk in your content?

362
00:12:28,750 --> 00:12:30,458
Um,

363
00:12:32,417 --> 00:12:33,208
well, honestly,

364
00:12:33,250 --> 00:12:34,666
it does make me kind of nervous,

365
00:12:34,708 --> 00:12:36,208
and that sounds silly, right?

366
00:12:36,250 --> 00:12:37,999
Because like, I film videos, and that's like

367
00:12:38,041 --> 00:12:40,875
what I'm trying to do for a living, um,

368
00:12:40,917 --> 00:12:43,416
but like, yeah, it's really hard, I think

369
00:12:43,458 --> 00:12:45,416
the medium I work best in

370
00:12:45,458 --> 00:12:48,083
is visual, and

371
00:12:48,125 --> 00:12:49,208
that translates really well

372
00:12:49,250 --> 00:12:51,999
to like, the audience that I want, um,

373
00:12:52,041 --> 00:12:53,999
so yeah, that's, that's why I mainly don't do it,

374
00:12:54,041 --> 00:12:55,458
and also 'cause

375
00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:57,041
I, I don't feel like I have the best

376
00:12:57,083 --> 00:12:57,875
voice in the world,

377
00:12:57,917 --> 00:13:00,041
so, there's that too.

378
00:13:00,083 --> 00:13:02,666
You have a nice voice, you have a good voice.

379
00:13:02,708 --> 00:13:03,708
Thank you.

380
00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:05,416
When I hear myself

381
00:13:05,458 --> 00:13:08,083
after I've tried to record something with audio,

382
00:13:08,125 --> 00:13:10,500
I'm like, who the fuck is that? Like,

383
00:13:10,542 --> 00:13:13,166
I don't know who that is. Ah!

384
00:13:13,208 --> 00:13:14,917
So not only are people hearing you talk,

385
00:13:14,959 --> 00:13:16,124
they just heard you curse.

386
00:13:16,166 --> 00:13:17,375
(she gasps) (he chuckles)

387
00:13:17,417 --> 00:13:19,124
Shit!

388
00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:21,500
- No, I'm just teasing. - This isn't family friendly.

389
00:13:21,542 --> 00:13:23,416
It's whatever, it's out there in the ether now.

390
00:13:23,458 --> 00:13:25,166
- Mhm. - I'm coolin'.

391
00:13:25,208 --> 00:13:27,750
Hopefully I don't speak too freely.

392
00:13:27,792 --> 00:13:28,708
(she chuckles)

393
00:13:28,750 --> 00:13:30,917
You definitely have like, faces that you do

394
00:13:30,959 --> 00:13:33,666
when you do your content, um,

395
00:13:33,708 --> 00:13:35,666
Yeah? Oh, you've noticed

396
00:13:35,708 --> 00:13:37,249
(they chuckle) the?

397
00:13:37,291 --> 00:13:39,583
Well yeah, I mean that's part of your character.

398
00:13:39,625 --> 00:13:41,708
So it's like, I, I'm just noticing when I'm

399
00:13:41,750 --> 00:13:44,666
seeing you, because um I, I haven't really watched

400
00:13:44,708 --> 00:13:47,458
too many of your videos, um, to be honest, but

401
00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:49,708
just seeing a couple, you have like certain faces,

402
00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:52,541
and like I can see like when you're talking

403
00:13:52,583 --> 00:13:55,333
as your actual, human self,

404
00:13:55,375 --> 00:13:57,208
like, you don't really make the same faces.

405
00:13:57,250 --> 00:13:59,458
No, yeah, I mean,

406
00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:02,083
yeah, I typically am very animated,

407
00:14:02,125 --> 00:14:03,999
because I understand that like it's much like

408
00:14:04,041 --> 00:14:07,124
silent film acting in a way, because like

409
00:14:07,166 --> 00:14:09,500
I'm doing this like visual representation

410
00:14:09,542 --> 00:14:13,083
of an experience, a product, uh,

411
00:14:14,417 --> 00:14:16,666
and it's, there's no sound needed,

412
00:14:16,708 --> 00:14:20,750
it's just simply like visually stimulating, so...

413
00:14:21,750 --> 00:14:23,291
yeah. - Mhm.

414
00:14:23,333 --> 00:14:25,500
Can you cycle through a couple of your faces

415
00:14:25,542 --> 00:14:27,208
right now? - Um...

416
00:14:27,250 --> 00:14:29,166
Or is it, is it hard to do if you're not

417
00:14:29,208 --> 00:14:31,249
like actually doing the video?

418
00:14:31,291 --> 00:14:35,166
I think, like, I can do like um...

419
00:14:42,458 --> 00:14:43,625
Sometimes I'll mouth things,

420
00:14:43,667 --> 00:14:46,083
- Mhm. Yeah yeah. - But that's different, like.

421
00:14:50,208 --> 00:14:52,958
(he chuckles)

422
00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,999
- Does it feel silly when you're
doing it, or? (she chuckles)

423
00:14:56,041 --> 00:14:57,666
Because like, it, obviously this is like

424
00:14:57,708 --> 00:14:59,999
outside of the context of you

425
00:15:00,041 --> 00:15:01,833
doing it doing it.

426
00:15:01,875 --> 00:15:02,750
Yeah, um,

427
00:15:02,792 --> 00:15:04,583
if it, yeah, it does feel a little bit weird,

428
00:15:04,625 --> 00:15:05,875
I feel like a Sim, like.

429
00:15:05,917 --> 00:15:08,041
(they chuckle)

430
00:15:08,083 --> 00:15:09,208
Alright, well,

431
00:15:09,250 --> 00:15:10,999
I'm gonna cut and we'll we'll

432
00:15:11,041 --> 00:15:12,291
talk about something else or

433
00:15:12,333 --> 00:15:13,083
figure it out.

434
00:15:13,125 --> 00:15:14,458
Okay.

435
00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,541
Okay, so you have very prominent lips.

436
00:15:23,583 --> 00:15:24,416
(she chuckles)

437
00:15:24,458 --> 00:15:25,416
Um, - Thank you.

438
00:15:25,458 --> 00:15:28,458
What's it like having really big lips?

439
00:15:28,500 --> 00:15:31,541
Um, I mean I, it's fine, um,

440
00:15:31,583 --> 00:15:34,583
I do get comments sometimes that are

441
00:15:34,625 --> 00:15:37,666
sometimes less than nice, uh,

442
00:15:37,708 --> 00:15:40,124
- Less than nice? - A little bit indecent, if you will, yeah.

443
00:15:40,166 --> 00:15:41,750
Oh, okay. (he chuckles)

444
00:15:41,792 --> 00:15:43,249
I thought it was like, I was,

445
00:15:43,291 --> 00:15:45,291
I, I was thinking like people were just like

446
00:15:45,333 --> 00:15:47,792
'screw you, you have big lips' or something, but,

447
00:15:47,834 --> 00:15:49,875
Oh no, no yeah, I mean, (he chuckles)

448
00:15:49,917 --> 00:15:52,666
- Yeah. - For the most part it's just like thirsty guys

449
00:15:52,708 --> 00:15:57,249
trying to flirt. - Yeah.

450
00:15:57,291 --> 00:15:58,708
So- - But yeah, um,

451
00:15:58,750 --> 00:16:01,166
You've, I guess you've had them your whole life.

452
00:16:01,208 --> 00:16:03,166
I feel like people with big lips,

453
00:16:03,208 --> 00:16:04,958
it’s just kind of like,

454
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,999
I guess they're just born with them.

455
00:16:07,041 --> 00:16:09,208
(she chuckles) - Yeah, I mean,

456
00:16:09,250 --> 00:16:10,333
you would think so, right?

457
00:16:10,375 --> 00:16:11,541
Because like,

458
00:16:11,583 --> 00:16:12,541
Do they come in later?

459
00:16:12,583 --> 00:16:14,833
Is it like puberty? Is it like breasts?

460
00:16:14,875 --> 00:16:16,708
Do they like? (they chuckle)

461
00:16:16,750 --> 00:16:20,583
I mean, sure, in some cases, sure, um,

462
00:16:20,625 --> 00:16:22,958
But yeah, I mean,

463
00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,500
this is totally off-the-record, but,

464
00:16:25,542 --> 00:16:27,708
if I'm honest with you, and myself,

465
00:16:27,750 --> 00:16:29,999
I did go ahead and take that leap,

466
00:16:30,041 --> 00:16:33,666
I got swindled and totally...

467
00:16:33,708 --> 00:16:36,708
I just, I fell into the, the hole.

468
00:16:36,750 --> 00:16:39,666
I fell into that pitfall of

469
00:16:39,708 --> 00:16:41,208
doing what everybody else was doing,

470
00:16:41,250 --> 00:16:43,958
and I definitely got lip filler.

471
00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:45,958
Oh. Okay.

472
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,375
- Yeah. - I didn't even know that.

473
00:16:47,417 --> 00:16:50,708
- No, yeah.
- It looks like natural, like it doesn't look like

474
00:16:50,750 --> 00:16:51,958
I don't know.

475
00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,708
Ugh. Thank you.

476
00:16:53,750 --> 00:16:54,708
I hope, yeah, I mean,

477
00:16:54,750 --> 00:16:56,458
I was glad that it didn't go terribly,

478
00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:58,708
there was one time when it did. - Mhm.

479
00:16:58,750 --> 00:17:01,541
Um, it was just not cute.

480
00:17:01,583 --> 00:17:04,541
I feel like, okay, so, what is it, is it like,

481
00:17:04,583 --> 00:17:06,708
does it like wear off and you get more?

482
00:17:06,750 --> 00:17:08,208
Or what's the deal with it?

483
00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:09,458
So like,

484
00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:11,333
it basically...

485
00:17:12,750 --> 00:17:14,166
There's a lot of debate on this,

486
00:17:14,208 --> 00:17:15,583
scientifically-speaking,

487
00:17:15,625 --> 00:17:18,041
according to like the research, um,

488
00:17:18,083 --> 00:17:20,417
somebody did like an MRI of someone's face,

489
00:17:21,417 --> 00:17:22,625
after they had filler,

490
00:17:22,667 --> 00:17:25,041
and it had supposedly dissolved, because it wasn't

491
00:17:25,083 --> 00:17:28,375
where it was when they initially like injected it.

492
00:17:28,417 --> 00:17:30,333
What is it that they put in there?

493
00:17:30,375 --> 00:17:32,458
I think it's

494
00:17:32,500 --> 00:17:34,166
hyaluronic acid?

495
00:17:34,208 --> 00:17:35,833
What's that?

496
00:17:35,875 --> 00:17:38,291
(he chuckles) - It’s like, it,

497
00:17:38,333 --> 00:17:40,333
it's basically collagen,

498
00:17:40,375 --> 00:17:42,083
just like extra.

499
00:17:42,125 --> 00:17:43,500
And it's like a interesting like

500
00:17:43,542 --> 00:17:45,708
viscous fluid, if you will. - Okay.

501
00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:46,792
II guess that's the right,

502
00:17:46,834 --> 00:17:48,208
I don't know if that's right, but.

503
00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:49,375
I haven't done it in a while,

504
00:17:49,417 --> 00:17:50,625
so it's likely that maybe

505
00:17:50,667 --> 00:17:53,124
they have decreased in size, or deflated.

506
00:17:53,166 --> 00:17:55,083
I mean they're still huge lips.

507
00:17:55,125 --> 00:17:57,375
Thank you.

508
00:17:57,417 --> 00:17:59,458
I mean yeah. - But they're fake.

509
00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:02,541
- Unfortunately yeah, they're fake. Yeah. - Yeah, spoiler.

510
00:18:02,583 --> 00:18:04,375
But it's okay, I mean I always had a good

511
00:18:04,417 --> 00:18:06,958
bottom lip, so that is truly mine, but,

512
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:08,375
So your bottom lip's yours.

513
00:18:08,417 --> 00:18:10,041
- Mhm. - Top lip is fake.

514
00:18:10,083 --> 00:18:11,416
Yeah, for the most part.

515
00:18:11,458 --> 00:18:12,999
So, what do your lips feel like

516
00:18:13,041 --> 00:18:15,166
to you right now?

517
00:18:15,208 --> 00:18:18,124
They feel like my regular lips.

518
00:18:18,166 --> 00:18:19,541
So I'm looking in the mirror, like,

519
00:18:19,583 --> 00:18:22,083
are they still there? They are. Um.

520
00:18:23,333 --> 00:18:25,708
But yeah, they're just kind of

521
00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:27,666
there, sometimes it's weird, like,

522
00:18:27,708 --> 00:18:29,249
kissing people is weird,

523
00:18:29,291 --> 00:18:31,208
- Mhm. - Because it's like

524
00:18:31,250 --> 00:18:32,458
I don't know what my top lip

525
00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:33,875
is entirely doing the whole time,

526
00:18:33,917 --> 00:18:35,666
and I'm just trying to make sure it's

527
00:18:35,708 --> 00:18:37,541
acting right.

528
00:18:37,583 --> 00:18:38,666
Alright.

529
00:18:38,708 --> 00:18:40,083
So, yeah.

530
00:18:40,125 --> 00:18:42,083
It's a little weird, but um...

531
00:18:43,417 --> 00:18:45,917
Sorry, that was so extra share, ah.

532
00:18:45,959 --> 00:18:47,291
(he chuckles)

533
00:18:47,333 --> 00:18:48,541
It's interesting.

534
00:18:48,583 --> 00:18:50,541
Yeah, I guess so. I guess so,

535
00:18:50,583 --> 00:18:53,041
but, I don't know, I feel like it's

536
00:18:53,083 --> 00:18:54,708
something that...

537
00:18:54,750 --> 00:18:57,375
it's sort of a secret, if

538
00:18:57,417 --> 00:18:59,375
- Mhm. - If I'm honest, um,

539
00:19:00,583 --> 00:19:02,124
But yeah, we've been having such like a

540
00:19:02,166 --> 00:19:03,124
a cool conversation,

541
00:19:03,166 --> 00:19:08,041
I was just like, let me spout out and share, um,

542
00:19:08,083 --> 00:19:09,750
Well, that's the point of a documentary

543
00:19:09,792 --> 00:19:12,999
is you, you get people being natural. You know?

544
00:19:13,041 --> 00:19:15,416
Yeah, yeah. Um,

545
00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:17,208
yeah, I suppose.

546
00:19:17,250 --> 00:19:19,041
Is there um,

547
00:19:19,959 --> 00:19:21,708
Is there any chance you might be willing to

548
00:19:21,750 --> 00:19:23,333
kind of like cut that part?

549
00:19:23,375 --> 00:19:25,166
Or make it a little bit more ambiguous?

550
00:19:25,208 --> 00:19:26,500
Are you serious?

551
00:19:26,542 --> 00:19:28,208
Yeah, if, if you could,

552
00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:30,249
I mean I know that sounds extra, and like,

553
00:19:30,291 --> 00:19:33,708
you know, it's silly, I should probably be okay

554
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:36,500
with the fact that I did something like that,

555
00:19:36,542 --> 00:19:39,208
but I, what I'm not sure I'm okay with,

556
00:19:39,250 --> 00:19:42,041
upon reflecting, uh,

557
00:19:42,083 --> 00:19:45,249
is my audience knowing that, because...

558
00:19:45,291 --> 00:19:47,208
Alright, let me cut, and we can talk about it.

559
00:19:47,250 --> 00:19:49,541
Like talk about it talk about it.

560
00:19:49,583 --> 00:19:51,124
- Okay. - Okay.

561
00:19:51,166 --> 00:19:54,541
I always have like a natural aversion to like

562
00:19:54,583 --> 00:19:56,625
cutting things that work, and I feel like

563
00:19:56,667 --> 00:19:59,166
it was such an interesting conversation.

564
00:19:59,208 --> 00:20:02,500
Totally, I, I totally understand, um,

565
00:20:02,542 --> 00:20:04,958
and it is your documentary,

566
00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,166
um, I just, you know, I wonder if

567
00:20:07,208 --> 00:20:09,708
maybe it's possible that

568
00:20:09,750 --> 00:20:11,083
I could have a little bit more say

569
00:20:11,125 --> 00:20:12,750
in like what's included and what's not?

570
00:20:12,792 --> 00:20:14,375
I would just want you to look at

571
00:20:14,417 --> 00:20:15,458
the finished product,

572
00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:18,999
and then decide like how you feel about it,

573
00:20:19,041 --> 00:20:20,708
and then let me know.

574
00:20:20,750 --> 00:20:21,500
- Okay. - Um,

575
00:20:21,542 --> 00:20:23,208
because like, at the end of the day, like,

576
00:20:23,250 --> 00:20:24,208
you signed a release,

577
00:20:24,250 --> 00:20:25,958
and it's my footage,

578
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,500
and I can do with it whatever I want,

579
00:20:28,542 --> 00:20:30,666
but, you know, I'll show you a cut of it,

580
00:20:30,708 --> 00:20:32,666
and then maybe if you see a cut of it,

581
00:20:32,708 --> 00:20:35,541
you might feel like 'oh, that actually works'.

582
00:20:35,583 --> 00:20:38,417
You know what I mean? - Yeah, sure. Yeah.

583
00:20:40,166 --> 00:20:41,708
I feel like you're angry with me now.

584
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:43,500
No no no, I'm just um

585
00:20:45,083 --> 00:20:46,500
uh, pensive. (she chuckles)

586
00:20:46,542 --> 00:20:48,083
No, I just mean like, like let me

587
00:20:48,125 --> 00:20:49,708
take a crack at it basically.

588
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:53,208
Like let me try and make my version of

589
00:20:53,250 --> 00:20:54,625
the best movie I can make,

590
00:20:54,667 --> 00:20:56,333
and if that's in there, that's in there,

591
00:20:56,375 --> 00:20:58,375
and if it's not in there, then it's not in there,

592
00:20:58,417 --> 00:21:00,999
and then you look at it with fresh eyes,

593
00:21:01,041 --> 00:21:03,041
because like what feels weird in the moment

594
00:21:03,083 --> 00:21:04,708
isn't necessarily what's gonna feel weird

595
00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:07,708
when you look at it like incorporated into

596
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:11,375
a full piece, does that make sense?

597
00:21:11,417 --> 00:21:15,249
No, yeah yeah, sure, and,

598
00:21:15,291 --> 00:21:17,291
okay.

599
00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:20,208
Alright, um, (he chuckles)

600
00:21:20,250 --> 00:21:22,708
Well, what else is there to talk about?

601
00:21:22,750 --> 00:21:24,917
I don't know, what, what can we talk about?

602
00:21:24,959 --> 00:21:27,124
Alright, so, here is my room,

603
00:21:27,166 --> 00:21:29,041
behind me I have my calendar,

604
00:21:29,083 --> 00:21:30,999
because it's always good to stay on time.

605
00:21:31,041 --> 00:21:33,208
Here I've got my little pencil case,

606
00:21:33,250 --> 00:21:36,958
some beautiful Cracker Barrel pens.

607
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,375
Two dollars, total steal, go to Cracker Barrel.

608
00:21:39,417 --> 00:21:41,249
Oh, I have these cute little testers

609
00:21:41,291 --> 00:21:42,958
from Carolina Herrera.

610
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,333
These were only 35 paired together at the store.

611
00:21:46,375 --> 00:21:48,124
I was like, that's tea, I'm getting it.

612
00:21:48,166 --> 00:21:50,208
What does 'tea' mean, by the way?

613
00:21:50,250 --> 00:21:53,833
Oh, 'tea'? It's like oh that's tea like that's

614
00:21:53,875 --> 00:21:55,625
that's a deal, like that's the secret

615
00:21:55,667 --> 00:21:57,166
that I needed to know. - Oh, right.

616
00:21:57,208 --> 00:21:59,083
'Oh, that's the tea, right there' like

617
00:21:59,125 --> 00:22:00,541
- Okay. - Little-known secret.

618
00:22:00,583 --> 00:22:01,541
Little life hack.

619
00:22:01,583 --> 00:22:02,958
What else is over here?

620
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,666
I mean, I have room spray,

621
00:22:04,708 --> 00:22:07,958
this was something that I actually got from uh

622
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,333
Tassot A-pare-ies?

623
00:22:10,375 --> 00:22:12,917
I, I never knew how to learn the name.

624
00:22:12,959 --> 00:22:16,708
But uh yeah, they gave this to me to try.

625
00:22:16,750 --> 00:22:18,541
So yeah, you've probably seen it on my

626
00:22:18,583 --> 00:22:19,875
little Instagram page.

627
00:22:19,917 --> 00:22:21,375
And then,

628
00:22:21,417 --> 00:22:24,041
this is my Sarah Jessica Parker perfume.

629
00:22:24,083 --> 00:22:25,500
I really do love 'Sex and the City',

630
00:22:25,542 --> 00:22:27,041
that's like one of my favorite shows.

631
00:22:27,083 --> 00:22:28,542
Mhm.

632
00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:32,625
- Does it smell like paradise? - What does it smell like?

633
00:22:32,667 --> 00:22:34,500
I can't smell it from over here. Don't like

634
00:22:34,542 --> 00:22:36,917
spray more of it, just in case
I hate it, but, (they chuckle)

635
00:22:36,959 --> 00:22:38,166
Here, let, here pass it to me,

636
00:22:38,208 --> 00:22:39,291
and I'll just sniff it.

637
00:22:43,750 --> 00:22:45,999
Is this what Sarah Jessica Parker smells like?

638
00:22:46,041 --> 00:22:48,208
That's what I would think, I would think so, right?

639
00:22:48,250 --> 00:22:50,541
And it's pretty magical, I love it.

640
00:22:50,583 --> 00:22:52,708
It's like, I was expecting to hate it,

641
00:22:52,750 --> 00:22:54,375
but I kinda like it.

642
00:22:54,417 --> 00:22:56,166
Yeah, it's not bad, right?

643
00:22:56,208 --> 00:22:58,999
- It has almost like a cigarette-y sense to it,

644
00:22:59,041 --> 00:23:01,999
or like a hookah, it almost
smells like a hookah. (she chuckles)

645
00:23:02,041 --> 00:23:03,291
Have you ever done hookah?

646
00:23:03,333 --> 00:23:04,666
No, I've never done hookah.

647
00:23:04,708 --> 00:23:06,792
Okay, this kind of

648
00:23:06,834 --> 00:23:08,417
it has like a hookah-ness.

649
00:23:09,708 --> 00:23:13,416
I wonder if Sarah Jessica Parker does hookah.

650
00:23:13,458 --> 00:23:14,500
It would not surprise me,

651
00:23:14,542 --> 00:23:16,333
because she smokes a whole lot in that show.

652
00:23:16,375 --> 00:23:18,208
Ah, yeah, that's true, I forgot about that.

653
00:23:18,250 --> 00:23:20,041
Um,

654
00:23:20,083 --> 00:23:22,541
what else?

655
00:23:22,583 --> 00:23:24,708
This is like my little

656
00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:26,708
everything bin right now, but,

657
00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:28,166
when it's not everything,

658
00:23:28,208 --> 00:23:30,041
it's mainly just my hair stuff.

659
00:23:30,083 --> 00:23:31,500
And then over here this is just like

660
00:23:31,542 --> 00:23:33,792
everything else.

661
00:23:33,834 --> 00:23:37,041
This is like a three-tiered system.

662
00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:38,666
Makeup,

663
00:23:38,708 --> 00:23:41,083
nails and body,

664
00:23:41,125 --> 00:23:42,416
more nails and body.

665
00:23:42,458 --> 00:23:45,500
(she chuckles) So, basically the same thing. Um,

666
00:23:45,542 --> 00:23:48,041
You have like a statue of big lips.

667
00:23:48,083 --> 00:23:49,625
Oh yes I do, I,

668
00:23:49,667 --> 00:23:53,750
one could say I manifested that as well, um,

669
00:23:53,792 --> 00:23:55,249
But we're not allowed to talk about

670
00:23:55,291 --> 00:23:56,458
your big lips.

671
00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:57,792
Yeah, shh.

672
00:23:57,834 --> 00:24:00,124
Um, but then I also have this lovely turtle,

673
00:24:00,166 --> 00:24:02,291
I got this from T.J. Maxx.

674
00:24:02,333 --> 00:24:03,208
Mhm.

675
00:24:03,250 --> 00:24:05,041
Literally 15 dollars.

676
00:24:05,083 --> 00:24:07,291
Alright. I like the cat poster.

677
00:24:07,333 --> 00:24:08,999
Oh, yeah, thank you!

678
00:24:09,041 --> 00:24:10,625
I don't know if you saw the picture

679
00:24:10,667 --> 00:24:12,541
of my actual cat, but.

680
00:24:12,583 --> 00:24:13,708
Yes, I did.

681
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:17,041
I like to think of that painting as an homage.

682
00:24:17,083 --> 00:24:17,708
Mhm.

683
00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:19,166
I like to be really organized,

684
00:24:19,208 --> 00:24:20,583
so I've got like summer tops here,

685
00:24:20,625 --> 00:24:21,583
summer pants here,

686
00:24:21,625 --> 00:24:22,833
and then this is all my like

687
00:24:22,875 --> 00:24:27,458
really nicer type stuff, um. Got some of this.

688
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,417
This is actually really really cool,

689
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:32,666
this is a high-ticket item,

690
00:24:32,708 --> 00:24:36,208
I got this from a brand based in Greece.

691
00:24:36,250 --> 00:24:37,458
They sent it to me in the mail,

692
00:24:37,500 --> 00:24:39,375
all I had to do was like shoot a video in it,

693
00:24:39,417 --> 00:24:40,500
and it was really cute. Ah!

694
00:24:40,542 --> 00:24:43,166
Also got this from a little brand deal,

695
00:24:43,208 --> 00:24:44,917
this is like an independent boutique brand

696
00:24:44,959 --> 00:24:47,083
called Spencer's Closet,

697
00:24:47,125 --> 00:24:49,541
and they gave this to me to wear. - Mhm.

698
00:24:49,583 --> 00:24:52,249
During Fashion Week last year.

699
00:24:52,291 --> 00:24:56,375
Ooh, this was my fit for 'Barbie'.

700
00:24:56,417 --> 00:24:57,625
I made a whole reel about it,

701
00:24:57,667 --> 00:24:59,041
going to the Barbie movie,

702
00:24:59,083 --> 00:25:00,666
and like going in my hot pink,

703
00:25:00,708 --> 00:25:02,625
me and my friends went all together.

704
00:25:02,667 --> 00:25:04,416
It was really cool. - Did you like 'Barbie'?

705
00:25:04,458 --> 00:25:07,041
I do, yeah, and I, I did like her.

706
00:25:07,083 --> 00:25:08,541
As like a toy, or like in the movie?

707
00:25:08,583 --> 00:25:10,124
No, I meant did you like the movie?

708
00:25:10,166 --> 00:25:13,208
- I did like the movie. - I thought it was good.

709
00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:14,666
I fell asleep a little bit, but.

710
00:25:14,708 --> 00:25:15,792
- Uh-oh.

711
00:25:15,834 --> 00:25:17,708
Is that, is that, do we have to cut that out,

712
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,249
that you fell asleep during it?

713
00:25:19,291 --> 00:25:22,208
No, it's fine, I can admit that. (she chuckles)

714
00:25:22,250 --> 00:25:23,625
But yeah, I have this as well,

715
00:25:23,667 --> 00:25:26,166
this is like my favorite...

716
00:25:26,208 --> 00:25:28,500
What is this from? Divided.

717
00:25:28,542 --> 00:25:30,375
Yeah, I didn't get a deal with them, but,

718
00:25:30,417 --> 00:25:31,666
I did really like their dress,

719
00:25:31,708 --> 00:25:33,583
I think it's like Urban Outfitters? - Mhm.

720
00:25:33,625 --> 00:25:35,416
But I did a shopping with me trip

721
00:25:35,458 --> 00:25:36,375
to Urban Outfitters,

722
00:25:36,417 --> 00:25:37,708
and this is what I got.

723
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:39,291
So nice. - Okay.

724
00:25:39,333 --> 00:25:41,708
Yeah, um.

725
00:25:43,291 --> 00:25:44,917
But yeah, that's, that's mainly it,

726
00:25:44,959 --> 00:25:46,541
I mean I could uh,

727
00:25:46,583 --> 00:25:48,375
I could try some on for you, if you want.

728
00:25:48,417 --> 00:25:49,708
We could do like a little

729
00:25:49,750 --> 00:25:51,708
'ooh, get ready with me'.

730
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:53,333
Or it, maybe even like for transitions,

731
00:25:53,375 --> 00:25:54,917
in between things, when we're like

732
00:25:54,959 --> 00:25:56,291
talking about stuff,

733
00:25:56,333 --> 00:25:58,583
we can like, oh, look at her in this outfit,

734
00:25:58,625 --> 00:26:00,541
and then, changing subject,

735
00:26:00,583 --> 00:26:02,041
in this outfit.

736
00:26:02,083 --> 00:26:03,958
You know? That kind of vibe?

737
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:04,999
Okay, yeah. Totally.

738
00:26:05,041 --> 00:26:06,166
- Would that be cool? - Yeah.

739
00:26:06,208 --> 00:26:08,708
Alright, cool cool, so...

740
00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:09,708
yeah.

741
00:26:09,750 --> 00:26:12,208
I guess with that in there. - Okay, I'll cut, I'll cut here.

742
00:26:12,250 --> 00:26:16,166
- Wait, what? - I was gonna say, I guess with that in there um

743
00:26:16,208 --> 00:26:18,999
maybe we can cut out some of the, the more

744
00:26:19,041 --> 00:26:20,375
sensitive subjects that we were

745
00:26:20,417 --> 00:26:21,375
talking about earlier.

746
00:26:21,417 --> 00:26:24,249
Oh my god. Like, really?

747
00:26:24,291 --> 00:26:26,291
Yeah. I mean yeah.

748
00:26:26,333 --> 00:26:28,458
Wait, what, what do you mean?

749
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:32,458
I mean like, you know, maybe we can substitute.

750
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:36,458
Like, - Substitute what for what?

751
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:38,583
Lip filler for clothes.

752
00:26:40,458 --> 00:26:42,708
What's 'clothes'? What does 'clothes' mean?

753
00:26:42,750 --> 00:26:45,958
Like outfits, like, 'oh, check this out'.

754
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,375
Really cute.

755
00:26:47,417 --> 00:26:50,333
I can explain where I got it and

756
00:26:50,375 --> 00:26:52,041
what a good deal I got on it,

757
00:26:52,083 --> 00:26:52,999
even if I didn't.

758
00:26:53,041 --> 00:26:55,125
Well, that's not as interesting.

759
00:26:57,250 --> 00:26:59,833
I mean, you, one could say that.

760
00:26:59,875 --> 00:27:01,625
Like if you're just putting on a jacket,

761
00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:02,750
and talking about a jacket,

762
00:27:02,792 --> 00:27:04,124
that's not as interesting as you

763
00:27:04,166 --> 00:27:06,249
talking about the fact that you have lip fillers,

764
00:27:06,291 --> 00:27:08,291
and giving an honest like

765
00:27:08,333 --> 00:27:10,999
down-to-earth, uh,

766
00:27:11,041 --> 00:27:12,833
statement on that. You know?

767
00:27:12,875 --> 00:27:14,375
Like it, I, I just feel like you're

768
00:27:14,417 --> 00:27:17,041
this is almost like you're turning this

769
00:27:17,083 --> 00:27:19,041
documentary into kind of like

770
00:27:19,083 --> 00:27:21,000
what your content is.

771
00:27:23,041 --> 00:27:24,208
Unintentionally.

772
00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:26,959
I wouldn't have agreed to shooting um

773
00:27:28,208 --> 00:27:30,208
your content for you

774
00:27:30,250 --> 00:27:31,208
around New York City

775
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:32,958
if I thought that like

776
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,792
the documentary was literally just gonna be

777
00:27:34,834 --> 00:27:36,666
more content of you like

778
00:27:36,708 --> 00:27:38,542
trying on stuff or whatever.

779
00:27:40,125 --> 00:27:41,083
Oh.

780
00:27:41,125 --> 00:27:44,291
So like, honestly like, I feel like um

781
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:47,542
the documentary

782
00:27:49,083 --> 00:27:51,999
like can be

783
00:27:52,041 --> 00:27:55,541
just us disagreeing about what the documentary

784
00:27:55,583 --> 00:27:56,500
is.

785
00:27:56,542 --> 00:27:57,541
Like, this shot

786
00:27:57,583 --> 00:27:59,208
that I have on you right now, like,

787
00:27:59,250 --> 00:28:02,375
I just like the shot of just you sitting,

788
00:28:02,417 --> 00:28:03,708
and just being like a person,

789
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:06,166
and uh, we're just having a conversation.

790
00:28:06,208 --> 00:28:08,958
Like to me, that's compelling, like,

791
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,999
I'm not

792
00:28:10,041 --> 00:28:11,999
a young person who watches content.

793
00:28:12,041 --> 00:28:13,541
That's not compelling for me,

794
00:28:13,583 --> 00:28:16,041
- Mm. - I'm somebody who watches like documentaries

795
00:28:16,083 --> 00:28:19,208
where people are being real with each other. Um,

796
00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:20,249
but,

797
00:28:20,291 --> 00:28:22,249
I think a way to, for us to meet halfway

798
00:28:22,291 --> 00:28:24,249
is the fact that like

799
00:28:24,291 --> 00:28:27,333
you know, in the context of us disagreeing,

800
00:28:27,375 --> 00:28:29,166
there's a documentary there.

801
00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,541
Um, does that make sense?

802
00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:31,999
Is that something you would be more

803
00:28:32,041 --> 00:28:33,083
comfortable with?

804
00:28:33,125 --> 00:28:34,291
I do like the idea

805
00:28:34,333 --> 00:28:36,291
of it being more focused on

806
00:28:36,333 --> 00:28:38,625
us disagreeing about like

807
00:28:38,667 --> 00:28:41,416
what the point of the documentary is, or like what

808
00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:43,958
any point to any documentary is, really.

809
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,124
Well, 'cause that's real, like that's what we're

810
00:28:46,166 --> 00:28:48,458
if, if that's what's happening between us,

811
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:49,583
our disagreement, - Yeah.

812
00:28:49,625 --> 00:28:51,333
I feel like that disagreement

813
00:28:51,375 --> 00:28:53,166
becomes the documentary.

814
00:28:53,208 --> 00:28:55,083
That like, for me, documentaries,

815
00:28:55,125 --> 00:28:56,375
and film in general,

816
00:28:56,417 --> 00:28:58,333
should be always chasing like what's real,

817
00:28:58,375 --> 00:29:00,208
and like what's happening right now,

818
00:29:00,250 --> 00:29:01,541
and what's happening right now is

819
00:29:01,583 --> 00:29:03,999
we're disagreeing about what this is.

820
00:29:04,041 --> 00:29:06,333
You know? So. - Yeah, sure.

821
00:29:06,375 --> 00:29:07,249
Can we, uh,

822
00:29:07,291 --> 00:29:09,208
is that something you feel safe capturing?

823
00:29:09,250 --> 00:29:11,083
Because I, I, I'm just worried now

824
00:29:11,125 --> 00:29:12,541
that we're gonna go down that path,

825
00:29:12,583 --> 00:29:13,750
and then you're gonna be like,

826
00:29:13,792 --> 00:29:15,124
alright, well, cut all the stuff

827
00:29:15,166 --> 00:29:16,999
about us disagreeing, and,

828
00:29:17,041 --> 00:29:18,166
just keep all the stuff about

829
00:29:18,208 --> 00:29:20,541
me talking about clothes and stuff. You know?

830
00:29:20,583 --> 00:29:21,458
Oh no, yeah, I mean,

831
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:24,416
you can, you can totally keep the

832
00:29:24,458 --> 00:29:25,666
the disagreement in there,

833
00:29:25,708 --> 00:29:28,541
I think that honestly

834
00:29:28,583 --> 00:29:32,333
I really really like your idea there, because like

835
00:29:32,375 --> 00:29:33,708
that is really compelling,

836
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:36,875
I like things that have like,

837
00:29:36,917 --> 00:29:38,958
you know,

838
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,500
a story, I don't think is interesting,

839
00:29:40,542 --> 00:29:42,249
unless there's resistance, - Mhm.

840
00:29:42,291 --> 00:29:44,208
- in some way, shape, or form. - Sorry, I'm just

841
00:29:44,250 --> 00:29:45,666
figuring the shot a bit better, but

842
00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:46,458
No, word.

843
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:48,041
But yeah, I um,

844
00:29:48,083 --> 00:29:49,541
I definitely think...

845
00:29:49,583 --> 00:29:51,249
Like, we don't have to get along,

846
00:29:51,291 --> 00:29:53,333
and that can be part of the

847
00:29:53,375 --> 00:29:56,208
the interestingness of what we're doing.

848
00:29:56,250 --> 00:29:58,625
You know? Because we're, you know,

849
00:29:58,667 --> 00:30:00,166
we're two different people.

850
00:30:00,208 --> 00:30:02,708
Like, I come from a very different world from you,

851
00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:05,166
and you come from a very different

852
00:30:05,208 --> 00:30:05,958
world from me.

853
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,625
Like I don't get why people make content.

854
00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:09,166
I think it's stupid, like,

855
00:30:09,208 --> 00:30:11,375
I'm fine admitting that to you,

856
00:30:11,417 --> 00:30:13,375
and I'm sure you get that from people

857
00:30:13,417 --> 00:30:14,416
in your life.

858
00:30:14,458 --> 00:30:16,792
- Oh sure, yeah. But if it's stupid- - Um, I don't, I don't

859
00:30:16,834 --> 00:30:18,999
dislike you as a person, I'm just saying, like,

860
00:30:19,041 --> 00:30:21,166
I, I don't understand why people make

861
00:30:21,208 --> 00:30:23,375
this kind of shit. Like I, like,

862
00:30:23,417 --> 00:30:25,208
with this same equipment, like,

863
00:30:25,250 --> 00:30:26,583
a fucking camera,

864
00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:29,999
you can make like an actual like fucking movie,

865
00:30:30,041 --> 00:30:33,583
and not just like worship these fucking brands,

866
00:30:33,625 --> 00:30:36,958
and uh, make your whole life about chasing

867
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,666
these little fuckin' morsels of shit

868
00:30:38,708 --> 00:30:40,458
that they fucking throw your way,

869
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:42,500
whether it be a fucking coupon,

870
00:30:42,542 --> 00:30:46,583
or some fucking shit that they throw you, and then

871
00:30:46,625 --> 00:30:48,458
you're constantly chasing this fucking carrot

872
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,583
that's like dangling in front of your face.

873
00:30:50,625 --> 00:30:52,291
Like that's fucked up too.

874
00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:55,208
So it's like, us talking about that shit,

875
00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:57,249
and that's fine, I'm there's shit that you think

876
00:30:57,291 --> 00:30:58,833
like is fucked up about me and I'm sure

877
00:30:58,875 --> 00:31:00,875
you think like 'oh, this pretentious asshole',

878
00:31:00,917 --> 00:31:03,166
that's like shitting on what I'm doing right now.

879
00:31:03,208 --> 00:31:05,083
You know, I'm sure you have shit that you would

880
00:31:05,125 --> 00:31:07,833
want to say to me, and that can be kind of,

881
00:31:07,875 --> 00:31:09,666
if, if we're rolling while that's happening,

882
00:31:09,708 --> 00:31:12,083
then that's fucking compelling, so,

883
00:31:12,125 --> 00:31:14,458
I think that's interesting.

884
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,375
Okay. I mean...

885
00:31:16,417 --> 00:31:18,208
Like, say something to me, like say,

886
00:31:18,250 --> 00:31:19,333
I'm not trying to force it,

887
00:31:19,375 --> 00:31:21,166
because then that would be fake, but like,

888
00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:22,917
how are you feeling about me

889
00:31:22,959 --> 00:31:25,416
shitting on what you do?

890
00:31:25,458 --> 00:31:27,375
Does that feel, does that feel good?

891
00:31:27,417 --> 00:31:29,708
Does that feel uncomfortable?

892
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:31,458
It feels...

893
00:31:37,041 --> 00:31:38,333
pedantic.

894
00:31:38,375 --> 00:31:40,375
Pedantic?

895
00:31:40,417 --> 00:31:41,249
Okay.

896
00:31:41,291 --> 00:31:42,458
Because like,

897
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:44,249
I mean I, I kind of got the gist of it

898
00:31:44,291 --> 00:31:46,458
when I first like approached you,

899
00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:47,999
and we had a little chat

900
00:31:48,041 --> 00:31:50,166
you know, over the phone about

901
00:31:50,208 --> 00:31:53,999
what we do, and what we're into, and- - Mhm.

902
00:31:54,041 --> 00:31:56,083
Yeah um I mean, I got the gist of it from there,

903
00:31:56,125 --> 00:31:58,999
so like, I do know that, I'm aware,

904
00:31:59,041 --> 00:32:02,375
um that you feel that way, and I, I do respect it,

905
00:32:02,417 --> 00:32:03,958
to a degree,

906
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,124
even though I disagree, um,

907
00:32:07,166 --> 00:32:09,208
yeah, I'd say,

908
00:32:09,250 --> 00:32:12,375
content creation in general

909
00:32:12,417 --> 00:32:13,666
at this moment in time

910
00:32:13,708 --> 00:32:15,333
is much more lucrative

911
00:32:15,375 --> 00:32:17,708
than trying to work in film.

912
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:20,124
I have no doubt that it's more lucrative,

913
00:32:20,166 --> 00:32:21,999
and also I'm not trying to work in film,

914
00:32:22,041 --> 00:32:23,124
I'm just trying to make

915
00:32:23,166 --> 00:32:24,249
stuff that I like, like,

916
00:32:24,291 --> 00:32:26,083
you know that, you've seen some of my stuff,

917
00:32:26,125 --> 00:32:27,375
you wouldn't have contacted me

918
00:32:27,417 --> 00:32:29,583
if you didn't like kind of what I'm doing,

919
00:32:29,625 --> 00:32:32,083
which is just doing my own thing, um,

920
00:32:32,125 --> 00:32:35,166
- Oh no, yeah, of course. - You know, I'm not, what I mean is like

921
00:32:35,208 --> 00:32:37,124
I'm different also from

922
00:32:37,166 --> 00:32:38,958
people on my side, uh,

923
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,208
making art and chasing being in Hollywood,

924
00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:42,166
and all that shit.

925
00:32:42,208 --> 00:32:44,124
Like I'm doing my own thing there.

926
00:32:44,166 --> 00:32:46,375
Um, so, you know,

927
00:32:46,417 --> 00:32:48,999
I'm, I'm not chasing that shit in general,

928
00:32:49,041 --> 00:32:50,500
is what I'm trying to say.

929
00:32:50,542 --> 00:32:52,041
- Mm. - Um,

930
00:32:52,083 --> 00:32:53,917
So you don't want to make

931
00:32:53,959 --> 00:32:55,124
high-budget movies?

932
00:32:55,166 --> 00:32:57,041
No. Not at all.

933
00:32:57,083 --> 00:32:58,958
- Really? - If I'm not doing shit like this,

934
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,375
like even though this day is not going great

935
00:33:01,417 --> 00:33:02,958
because we're disagreeing

936
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,458
on what this documentary should be, like

937
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:07,291
this small footprint type shit,

938
00:33:07,333 --> 00:33:08,416
I fucking love.

939
00:33:08,458 --> 00:33:11,333
And you, the, I'm sure the small footprint-ness

940
00:33:11,375 --> 00:33:14,041
of making content is what makes it

941
00:33:14,083 --> 00:33:15,416
tolerable for you to be

942
00:33:15,458 --> 00:33:17,249
shilling for these fucking brands,

943
00:33:17,291 --> 00:33:18,792
is the fact that you can just go out

944
00:33:18,834 --> 00:33:20,041
and do it yourself,

945
00:33:20,083 --> 00:33:21,375
rather than like

946
00:33:21,417 --> 00:33:23,958
you being part of some fucking,

947
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,375
if you worked at some network,

948
00:33:25,417 --> 00:33:27,541
or you worked at some TV station,

949
00:33:27,583 --> 00:33:29,500
or whatever, or you

950
00:33:29,542 --> 00:33:32,166
were, you know, on some red carpet

951
00:33:32,208 --> 00:33:33,708
interviewing people or whatever, like,

952
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:34,541
there's that path,

953
00:33:34,583 --> 00:33:35,792
and you didn't take that path,

954
00:33:35,834 --> 00:33:38,041
so there's some acknowledgment there

955
00:33:38,083 --> 00:33:40,416
of like you like the fact that you can just

956
00:33:40,458 --> 00:33:42,249
get out there with a fucking camera

957
00:33:42,291 --> 00:33:44,792
or your phone, and you can make something.

958
00:33:44,834 --> 00:33:47,333
So like, we're kind of cut from the same cloth,

959
00:33:47,375 --> 00:33:48,666
in a certain sense,

960
00:33:48,708 --> 00:33:50,375
it's just that like

961
00:33:50,417 --> 00:33:52,124
I'm looking for honesty,

962
00:33:52,166 --> 00:33:54,166
and you're kind of,

963
00:33:54,208 --> 00:33:56,041
I don't know, it's almost like a brainwashing

964
00:33:56,083 --> 00:33:58,708
thing where like you're so fucking close to just

965
00:33:58,750 --> 00:34:01,625
like making something that's like honest and cool,

966
00:34:01,667 --> 00:34:05,875
but oh, these fucking brands call you and say like

967
00:34:05,917 --> 00:34:08,750
go visit here, or like a store calls you and says

968
00:34:08,792 --> 00:34:10,375
like come check out our thing

969
00:34:10,417 --> 00:34:13,792
and make content about it, it's like, I don't know

970
00:34:13,834 --> 00:34:15,625
it's just, it's, its a, different place

971
00:34:15,667 --> 00:34:18,416
than I come from shit with,

972
00:34:18,458 --> 00:34:20,166
so it's hard for me to relate.

973
00:34:21,667 --> 00:34:24,291
It's not entirely dishonest,

974
00:34:24,333 --> 00:34:27,041
the type of content that I make,

975
00:34:27,083 --> 00:34:28,124
I mean, I can understand

976
00:34:28,166 --> 00:34:29,333
why it might seem that way,

977
00:34:29,375 --> 00:34:31,625
because not everything is included,

978
00:34:31,667 --> 00:34:33,083
for instance, my voice.

979
00:34:33,125 --> 00:34:34,958
I don't include that, so that element

980
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:36,708
of reality is lost. - And I don't, I don't,

981
00:34:36,750 --> 00:34:39,083
I don't have any problem
with that, I think that's cool, uh,

982
00:34:39,125 --> 00:34:41,083
that's fine that you don't talk in your stuff.

983
00:34:41,125 --> 00:34:42,333
Cool, great, yeah. - No, yeah.

984
00:34:42,375 --> 00:34:45,041
But like, I'm just saying it

985
00:34:45,083 --> 00:34:46,541
it seems like you think that I'm like

986
00:34:46,583 --> 00:34:47,583
dick-riding these brands,

987
00:34:47,625 --> 00:34:50,625
and I'm definitely not, I'm just

988
00:34:50,667 --> 00:34:52,416
showing the best part

989
00:34:52,458 --> 00:34:53,583
that they have to offer,

990
00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:55,041
whether it be

991
00:34:55,083 --> 00:34:56,708
a product or

992
00:34:56,750 --> 00:34:58,208
an experience,

993
00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:00,792
- and I'm showing the best aspects.
- That's fair, but you wouldn't

994
00:35:00,834 --> 00:35:02,208
you wouldn’t do it if they weren’t,

995
00:35:02,250 --> 00:35:03,875
I mean, actually, I should phrase that

996
00:35:03,917 --> 00:35:05,792
as a question, would you do this kind of stuff

997
00:35:05,834 --> 00:35:07,708
if they weren't asking you to do it?

998
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:08,999
I mean...

999
00:35:09,041 --> 00:35:10,875
Because uh, I mean I can get, like,

1000
00:35:10,917 --> 00:35:11,958
when you're starting out,

1001
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,166
you could just go and

1002
00:35:13,208 --> 00:35:15,291
do stuff to show that you can do it,

1003
00:35:15,333 --> 00:35:17,625
- Yeah, yeah of course. - But like, you know,

1004
00:35:17,667 --> 00:35:19,458
I don't know, it, some of the stuff,

1005
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:21,083
would you even do?

1006
00:35:22,708 --> 00:35:24,166
I mean,

1007
00:35:26,291 --> 00:35:28,166
- Like, okay, let me put it this way. - Touché.

1008
00:35:28,208 --> 00:35:29,249
Let me put it this way:

1009
00:35:29,291 --> 00:35:31,375
these are the best years of your life, right?

1010
00:35:31,417 --> 00:35:32,792
You're young, you're beautiful,

1011
00:35:32,834 --> 00:35:34,041
you're in New York City,

1012
00:35:34,083 --> 00:35:35,541
right? - Thank you.

1013
00:35:35,583 --> 00:35:37,625
Why aren't you a fucking artist?

1014
00:35:37,667 --> 00:35:38,833
Like, let's, let's be real,

1015
00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,958
let's get real with this fucking documentary,

1016
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,333
like why aren't you making art?

1017
00:35:42,375 --> 00:35:44,208
Like, what’s the fucking,

1018
00:35:44,250 --> 00:35:46,583
what are you getting out of

1019
00:35:46,625 --> 00:35:48,375
what you're doing

1020
00:35:48,417 --> 00:35:50,375
that's so much better than like

1021
00:35:50,417 --> 00:35:52,083
if you were to tell a fucking

1022
00:35:52,125 --> 00:35:53,666
compelling story?

1023
00:35:53,708 --> 00:35:55,666
Like what is the fucking problem?

1024
00:35:55,708 --> 00:35:58,500
- Why isn't my TikTok reel an art?
- Well it's something else, right?

1025
00:35:58,542 --> 00:36:01,208
It's commercialism and it's

1026
00:36:01,250 --> 00:36:03,583
the commercial area of things and it's

1027
00:36:03,625 --> 00:36:05,208
advertising and it's

1028
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:07,166
to an extent it's propaganda.

1029
00:36:07,208 --> 00:36:09,625
But that, it's still like in and of itself like

1030
00:36:09,667 --> 00:36:11,375
a lot of commercials, let's say,

1031
00:36:11,417 --> 00:36:13,416
the, the Campbell's soup can commercial,

1032
00:36:13,458 --> 00:36:16,625
where it hops of the shelf and

1033
00:36:16,667 --> 00:36:18,333
follows a kid home.

1034
00:36:18,375 --> 00:36:19,375
Mhm.

1035
00:36:19,417 --> 00:36:21,208
That’s, like,

1036
00:36:21,250 --> 00:36:22,625
there's a storyline there, like

1037
00:36:22,667 --> 00:36:25,958
there's a point to that, and,

1038
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,500
it's still art, you know what I mean,

1039
00:36:27,542 --> 00:36:29,041
even though they're trying to get you

1040
00:36:29,083 --> 00:36:30,625
to buy a product at the end of the day,

1041
00:36:30,667 --> 00:36:31,792
that still doesn't take away

1042
00:36:31,834 --> 00:36:34,625
the aspect of artistry that goes into that.

1043
00:36:34,667 --> 00:36:37,291
- Mhm. - Like,

1044
00:36:37,333 --> 00:36:38,208
it's still beautiful.

1045
00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:40,333
I think of that as like a short film,

1046
00:36:40,375 --> 00:36:42,375
No yeah, look, commercial art

1047
00:36:42,417 --> 00:36:43,708
can be some of the best art,

1048
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:46,208
and there's been really influential

1049
00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:47,041
commercial art.

1050
00:36:47,083 --> 00:36:48,583
I would have more respect for you

1051
00:36:48,625 --> 00:36:50,458
if you were actually making stuff

1052
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:52,208
that could be held

1053
00:36:52,250 --> 00:36:53,083
to that regard,

1054
00:36:53,125 --> 00:36:54,625
or could be in a museum one day,

1055
00:36:54,667 --> 00:36:56,833
but you're not, you're like literally you're just

1056
00:36:56,875 --> 00:36:58,541
being used as a fucking pawn, dude.

1057
00:36:58,583 --> 00:36:59,625
Like, for real.

1058
00:36:59,667 --> 00:37:01,208
I wouldn't say 'a pawn',

1059
00:37:01,250 --> 00:37:02,666
because like at the end of the day,

1060
00:37:02,708 --> 00:37:04,958
there is benefits to the job.

1061
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,625
And it, I guess it depends on what your

1062
00:37:06,667 --> 00:37:09,875
expectation is when you go into that, like,

1063
00:37:09,917 --> 00:37:11,124
if you're expecting to be paid

1064
00:37:11,166 --> 00:37:12,500
a million dollars the first time

1065
00:37:12,542 --> 00:37:13,625
you get a brand deal, like,

1066
00:37:13,667 --> 00:37:15,375
you're not gonna get that, but,

1067
00:37:15,417 --> 00:37:17,541
you will get a good experience.

1068
00:37:17,583 --> 00:37:18,958
You will get to go places

1069
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,291
you haven't gone before.

1070
00:37:20,333 --> 00:37:22,458
And you find that compelling?

1071
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:24,500
I mean, I think it is incredibly compelling,

1072
00:37:24,542 --> 00:37:26,541
it's another way to connect with people,

1073
00:37:26,583 --> 00:37:28,583
and I think that's

1074
00:37:28,625 --> 00:37:30,291
integral to art

1075
00:37:30,333 --> 00:37:32,708
as a, as a whole. - Mhm.

1076
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:36,083
So I, this, I'd say like okay, I agree to disagree with you

1077
00:37:36,125 --> 00:37:37,666
in terms of like,

1078
00:37:37,708 --> 00:37:39,208
oh, content creation isn't art

1079
00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:41,999
because I'm like sold out or whatever,

1080
00:37:42,041 --> 00:37:44,416
I haven't even like gotten that much money from it

1081
00:37:44,458 --> 00:37:47,708
I mean I've gotten vouchers, basically, so,

1082
00:37:47,750 --> 00:37:49,625
I wouldn't say I'm selling out in that regard,

1083
00:37:49,667 --> 00:37:52,041
but I would say that

1084
00:37:52,083 --> 00:37:55,999
I'm taking the opportunity that I have to use

1085
00:37:56,041 --> 00:37:57,083
my assets,

1086
00:37:57,125 --> 00:38:00,041
and make some money for myself.

1087
00:38:00,083 --> 00:38:03,375
And broaden my social connections.

1088
00:38:03,417 --> 00:38:04,583
See, that was good, like,

1089
00:38:04,625 --> 00:38:07,041
a little bit of that, that was like interesting.

1090
00:38:07,083 --> 00:38:09,291
Are you comfortable with that being in there?

1091
00:38:09,333 --> 00:38:12,541
- Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I, I think that's good. - Okay.

1092
00:38:12,583 --> 00:38:14,041
Alright.

1093
00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:17,166
Okay, so like what, what would the clothing be?

1094
00:38:17,208 --> 00:38:20,208
Um, I mean we can go with a, a variety

1095
00:38:20,250 --> 00:38:23,833
of different outfits, I mean,

1096
00:38:23,875 --> 00:38:25,999
But like what would it be? Like what's,

1097
00:38:26,041 --> 00:38:29,458
when you, when you say 'trying on clothes', is it like,

1098
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:33,041
like what's, what does 'trying on clothes' mean?

1099
00:38:33,083 --> 00:38:34,291
Oh, I mean like, you know,

1100
00:38:34,333 --> 00:38:35,666
little outfit reveals, like,

1101
00:38:35,708 --> 00:38:38,041
we find a way to

1102
00:38:38,083 --> 00:38:39,041
or at least, how I do it,

1103
00:38:39,083 --> 00:38:41,666
when I'm doing like a TikTok,

1104
00:38:41,708 --> 00:38:44,999
I try to find like a walkway to go down,

1105
00:38:45,041 --> 00:38:48,958
whether it be a hallway or
like even just my bedroom door.

1106
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,208
Walk in in one outfit,

1107
00:38:50,250 --> 00:38:51,708
and then walk in in another one,

1108
00:38:51,750 --> 00:38:53,583
cut to, walk in in another one,

1109
00:38:53,625 --> 00:38:55,124
and then it's like a runway.

1110
00:38:55,166 --> 00:38:57,541
Like me, doing a runway show, by myself.

1111
00:38:57,583 --> 00:39:00,416
So then it's not actually like trying on clothes

1112
00:39:00,458 --> 00:39:01,958
it's not like putting on clothes,

1113
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,583
it's like finished product, like here's me in clothes,

1114
00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:08,249
right? - Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much.

1115
00:39:08,291 --> 00:39:10,583
- Um. - Like a runway show.

1116
00:39:10,625 --> 00:39:11,500
Yeah, I don't know.

1117
00:39:11,542 --> 00:39:14,124
It just sounds a little content-y to me.

1118
00:39:14,166 --> 00:39:15,625
If it was you

1119
00:39:15,667 --> 00:39:18,083
trying on, like literally

1120
00:39:18,125 --> 00:39:20,416
putting on, taking off clothes,

1121
00:39:20,458 --> 00:39:21,999
that would be more interesting,

1122
00:39:22,041 --> 00:39:23,541
because that's not something that you

1123
00:39:23,583 --> 00:39:26,166
would normally see you do.

1124
00:39:27,667 --> 00:39:29,999
Yeah, it'd be more like something

1125
00:39:30,041 --> 00:39:31,416
you'd see an OnlyFans model do.

1126
00:39:31,458 --> 00:39:32,458
(he chuckles)

1127
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:36,041
Right, but, I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to

1128
00:39:36,083 --> 00:39:39,041
give an example of like the fact that like

1129
00:39:39,083 --> 00:39:42,041
there's just no real reason to do, like,

1130
00:39:42,083 --> 00:39:43,541
'here's me in this outfit',

1131
00:39:43,583 --> 00:39:44,708
and then cut to

1132
00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:46,041
'I'm in another outfit',

1133
00:39:46,083 --> 00:39:47,666
cut to, 'I'm in another outfit', like

1134
00:39:47,708 --> 00:39:49,666
that's just not the kind of thing I'm going for,

1135
00:39:49,708 --> 00:39:52,500
like I would rather just talk to you, um,

1136
00:39:52,542 --> 00:39:55,375
and ask you more questions about

1137
00:39:55,417 --> 00:39:57,041
what it's like to be you and stuff.

1138
00:39:57,083 --> 00:40:00,041
Like it just doesn't seem useful to grab

1139
00:40:00,083 --> 00:40:01,958
that kind of footage, unless there's something

1140
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,958
about it that's different than what

1141
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,124
normally would be there.

1142
00:40:07,166 --> 00:40:10,625
But watching me undress seems useful?

1143
00:40:12,333 --> 00:40:14,083
I, you, I mean, I feel like you're

1144
00:40:14,125 --> 00:40:16,333
pinpointing upon that, but,

1145
00:40:16,375 --> 00:40:18,208
well yes, to, you know,

1146
00:40:18,250 --> 00:40:20,291
I'll argue from the position you're putting me in,

1147
00:40:20,333 --> 00:40:22,708
but yeah, it would be, it would be useful,

1148
00:40:22,750 --> 00:40:24,041
it would be interesting.

1149
00:40:24,083 --> 00:40:25,083
It would be entertaining,

1150
00:40:25,125 --> 00:40:26,541
it would be beautiful,

1151
00:40:26,583 --> 00:40:28,583
because I would shoot it beautifully.

1152
00:40:31,458 --> 00:40:33,250
Would you consider

1153
00:40:36,458 --> 00:40:39,416
well-directed porn 'art'?

1154
00:40:39,458 --> 00:40:41,208
I would consider

1155
00:40:41,250 --> 00:40:42,541
poorly-directed porn 'art'.

1156
00:40:42,583 --> 00:40:46,124
I think 'porn' is a genre, I think um

1157
00:40:46,166 --> 00:40:48,541
I would defend any art that is art,

1158
00:40:48,583 --> 00:40:50,166
and art is art,

1159
00:40:50,208 --> 00:40:53,083
and that's all that art is, and so,

1160
00:40:53,125 --> 00:40:54,500
I'm not trying to make porn here,

1161
00:40:54,542 --> 00:40:56,249
so I kind of like

1162
00:40:56,291 --> 00:40:58,625
I know what you're getting at, um,

1163
00:40:58,667 --> 00:41:01,083
and I don't appreciate it, um,

1164
00:41:01,125 --> 00:41:02,375
but yeah, I would,

1165
00:41:02,417 --> 00:41:04,458
of course I would defend any art.

1166
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:05,583
No, yeah, I just,

1167
00:41:05,625 --> 00:41:07,542
I just think it's interesting that um

1168
00:41:10,083 --> 00:41:12,500
seeing me in the outfits isn't useful,

1169
00:41:12,542 --> 00:41:15,625
but watching me get to that point is.

1170
00:41:15,667 --> 00:41:17,249
Yeah, because that's normally what

1171
00:41:17,291 --> 00:41:18,958
we would not see.

1172
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,541
So, if we're seeing you

1173
00:41:20,583 --> 00:41:22,375
putting on or taking off clothes,

1174
00:41:22,417 --> 00:41:24,666
that's something we wouldn't normally see.

1175
00:41:24,708 --> 00:41:26,958
Again, this is the purpose of a documentary,

1176
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,208
is to give people a glimpse of you

1177
00:41:29,250 --> 00:41:32,375
behind what they would normally see of you.

1178
00:41:32,417 --> 00:41:34,375
You're a beautiful woman.

1179
00:41:34,417 --> 00:41:36,500
Who wouldn't want to see a beautiful woman

1180
00:41:36,542 --> 00:41:39,249
putting on or taking off clothes?

1181
00:41:39,291 --> 00:41:41,999
That's like what people have painted since

1182
00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:43,583
paint existed.

1183
00:41:43,625 --> 00:41:46,124
You know, you can go into a museum and see like

1184
00:41:46,166 --> 00:41:47,166
paintings of like women

1185
00:41:47,208 --> 00:41:49,625
washing their legs and shit, you know?

1186
00:41:51,041 --> 00:41:54,124
This isn't 'porn', this isn't me being a creep,

1187
00:41:54,166 --> 00:41:55,541
this is me being an artist.

1188
00:41:55,583 --> 00:41:58,666
Like welcome to fucking models and artists,

1189
00:41:58,708 --> 00:42:01,083
and the oldest fucking relationship

1190
00:42:01,125 --> 00:42:02,708
in the history of art.

1191
00:42:02,750 --> 00:42:04,541
A woman is beautiful.

1192
00:42:04,583 --> 00:42:08,458
A painter, or a sculptor, uh, captures them.

1193
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:09,958
You know?

1194
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,542
Right.

1195
00:42:14,542 --> 00:42:15,750
What was the eye roll there?

1196
00:42:15,792 --> 00:42:18,124
I saw the fucking eye roll, what do you mean?

1197
00:42:18,166 --> 00:42:20,124
So I reckon that's the reason why you picked me

1198
00:42:20,166 --> 00:42:22,041
for your little documentary, then?

1199
00:42:22,083 --> 00:42:23,625
That you're beautiful?

1200
00:42:23,667 --> 00:42:25,708
I, is this the first time you've been told that?

1201
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:27,500
Yes, you're beautiful.

1202
00:42:27,542 --> 00:42:28,625
It's not the first time,

1203
00:42:28,667 --> 00:42:30,375
not to toot my own horn, but...

1204
00:42:30,417 --> 00:42:32,792
No, what I mean is like

1205
00:42:32,834 --> 00:42:35,999
yeah, okay, so, you know,

1206
00:42:36,041 --> 00:42:37,750
you wanted me to shoot content of you.

1207
00:42:37,792 --> 00:42:39,999
Great, I was like, let me do a documentary,

1208
00:42:40,041 --> 00:42:42,249
yeah, because you're beautiful is probably

1209
00:42:42,291 --> 00:42:45,166
part of why I chose to do

1210
00:42:45,208 --> 00:42:48,875
that deal, rather than just get paid or something.

1211
00:42:48,917 --> 00:42:50,583
Because I was like, this chick's gorgeous,

1212
00:42:50,625 --> 00:42:51,999
like why can't I just

1213
00:42:52,041 --> 00:42:53,666
do a documentary? That would be dope.

1214
00:42:53,708 --> 00:42:55,041
That would be priceless,

1215
00:42:55,083 --> 00:42:57,041
art is always priceless, right?

1216
00:42:57,083 --> 00:42:59,333
I guess, sure.

1217
00:42:59,375 --> 00:43:01,041
But I mean,

1218
00:43:03,250 --> 00:43:05,416
don't you think it's kind of voyeuristic

1219
00:43:05,458 --> 00:43:07,083
to deem

1220
00:43:07,125 --> 00:43:09,083
watching someone undress,

1221
00:43:09,125 --> 00:43:10,583
which is usually a private moment,

1222
00:43:10,625 --> 00:43:11,666
for most people...

1223
00:43:11,708 --> 00:43:13,500
- Yes, art is about private moments, - As art?

1224
00:43:13,542 --> 00:43:15,500
it's about like you talking about your lip

1225
00:43:15,542 --> 00:43:17,541
filler, it's like what they say about free speech:

1226
00:43:17,583 --> 00:43:19,500
free speech isn't there to protect

1227
00:43:19,542 --> 00:43:20,375
speech that you love,

1228
00:43:20,417 --> 00:43:22,500
it's there to protect speech that you hate.

1229
00:43:22,542 --> 00:43:23,999
That's the only possible purpose.

1230
00:43:24,041 --> 00:43:25,375
The only possible purpose of art

1231
00:43:25,417 --> 00:43:27,124
is moments that you wouldn't normally see,

1232
00:43:27,166 --> 00:43:28,750
or you wouldn't normally appreciate.

1233
00:43:28,792 --> 00:43:30,249
We see women walking down the street,

1234
00:43:30,291 --> 00:43:31,375
fully clothed, all the time.

1235
00:43:31,417 --> 00:43:32,541
We don't always see women

1236
00:43:32,583 --> 00:43:34,166
in states of undress, unless we have

1237
00:43:34,208 --> 00:43:36,291
some sort of intimate relationship with them,

1238
00:43:36,333 --> 00:43:39,083
but art provides us a glimpse into

1239
00:43:39,125 --> 00:43:42,083
intimacy and into connecting with other people,

1240
00:43:42,125 --> 00:43:44,041
and being allowed into their world.

1241
00:43:44,083 --> 00:43:46,208
You know? You allowed me into your world

1242
00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:47,999
with this documentary,

1243
00:43:48,041 --> 00:43:52,041
and so I, I fucking went down
that path with you, with you,

1244
00:43:52,083 --> 00:43:53,792
and the second we started revealing things

1245
00:43:53,834 --> 00:43:55,291
about yourself that are actually

1246
00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:56,458
about yourself,

1247
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:58,291
you fucking back off.

1248
00:43:58,333 --> 00:44:00,625
And that's fucked up, because we were - Is it fucked up?

1249
00:44:00,667 --> 00:44:02,291
Yeah, it is, because we were so close

1250
00:44:02,333 --> 00:44:04,375
to fucking creating a piece of art here.

1251
00:44:04,417 --> 00:44:06,083
You know?

1252
00:44:06,125 --> 00:44:07,416
I think

1253
00:44:07,458 --> 00:44:08,875
what we're doing right now is 'art'.

1254
00:44:08,917 --> 00:44:10,917
Is it not? Having a dialogue?

1255
00:44:10,959 --> 00:44:12,083
Yes, I'm fine with this,

1256
00:44:12,125 --> 00:44:14,083
this is good, this is all usable.

1257
00:44:14,125 --> 00:44:15,208
Right.

1258
00:44:15,250 --> 00:44:16,708
I just think

1259
00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:18,333
you don't have to necessarily

1260
00:44:18,375 --> 00:44:20,041
have a naked woman in your

1261
00:44:20,083 --> 00:44:21,708
finished product to make it interesting,

1262
00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:22,541
or to make it 'art'.

1263
00:44:22,583 --> 00:44:24,124
I don't necessarily need to have

1264
00:44:24,166 --> 00:44:25,500
a naked woman in my art

1265
00:44:25,542 --> 00:44:27,208
for it to be 'art', I'm just saying, you,

1266
00:44:27,250 --> 00:44:29,833
you were talking about putting
on clothes and taking off clothes.

1267
00:44:29,875 --> 00:44:31,583
The only way that I would want to do that

1268
00:44:31,625 --> 00:44:32,708
is if you were actually,

1269
00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:34,625
like we saw you in your underwear,

1270
00:44:34,667 --> 00:44:37,541
which, honestly, like fucking, dude,

1271
00:44:37,583 --> 00:44:39,291
like I've seen your fucking content,

1272
00:44:39,333 --> 00:44:40,375
you've been on beaches,

1273
00:44:40,417 --> 00:44:42,541
you've been in fucking bikinis and shit

1274
00:44:42,583 --> 00:44:44,500
on the fucking beach,

1275
00:44:44,542 --> 00:44:46,041
so what's the big deal about

1276
00:44:46,083 --> 00:44:47,291
you in like a bra and panties?

1277
00:44:47,333 --> 00:44:50,166
It's the same fucking attire, it's just that

1278
00:44:50,208 --> 00:44:52,333
you're on the beach or you're in

1279
00:44:52,375 --> 00:44:54,458
a fucking bedroom, so it's like,

1280
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:57,124
you're you're playing this moral high ground thing

1281
00:44:57,166 --> 00:44:59,666
(he coughs) Excuse me. You're playing this like

1282
00:44:59,708 --> 00:45:01,708
moral high ground thing, but like

1283
00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:03,458
you know, what, what is the problem?

1284
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,124
Like why, why do you care? Like, what?

1285
00:45:06,166 --> 00:45:07,375
Who gives a shit?

1286
00:45:07,417 --> 00:45:09,208
Did you like forget to shave your legs today

1287
00:45:09,250 --> 00:45:09,999
or something, like

1288
00:45:10,041 --> 00:45:11,458
what's the fucking problem?

1289
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:12,416
But the point is like

1290
00:45:12,458 --> 00:45:14,041
you're the one who brought up fucking

1291
00:45:14,083 --> 00:45:15,458
taking on or putting off clothes,

1292
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:16,999
like I've never brought that up once

1293
00:45:17,041 --> 00:45:18,375
during this whole fucking thing.

1294
00:45:18,417 --> 00:45:20,500
So like, - You don't have to curse at me, thank you.

1295
00:45:20,542 --> 00:45:22,625
I curse when I talk, it's, I'm not cursing at you,

1296
00:45:22,667 --> 00:45:25,500
I'm expressing myself as like a human being.

1297
00:45:25,542 --> 00:45:28,166
I'm using, uh, all parts of the buffalo,

1298
00:45:28,208 --> 00:45:29,999
and some of the parts of the buffalo

1299
00:45:30,041 --> 00:45:31,750
is me fucking cursing, dude.

1300
00:45:33,750 --> 00:45:35,249
I don't, I'm not angry with you, I'm,

1301
00:45:35,291 --> 00:45:37,291
this is like intellectual discussion, right?

1302
00:45:37,333 --> 00:45:39,416
Yeah, but I bet you'll cut that out, won't you?

1303
00:45:39,458 --> 00:45:41,249
What won't, what would I cut out?

1304
00:45:41,291 --> 00:45:43,999
What doesn't make you look good.

1305
00:45:44,041 --> 00:45:45,375
What doesn't make me look good?

1306
00:45:45,417 --> 00:45:47,083
I look like fucking great here, dude.

1307
00:45:47,125 --> 00:45:49,625
- Do you? Because you just told
me that - Yeah, I'm, I'm saying...

1308
00:45:49,667 --> 00:45:51,416
This would only be interesting

1309
00:45:51,458 --> 00:45:54,083
if I undressed for you on camera...

1310
00:45:54,125 --> 00:45:56,541
- No no no- - Followed it up by cursing at me a ton.

1311
00:45:56,583 --> 00:45:58,041
No, that's not what I said.

1312
00:45:58,083 --> 00:46:00,124
Do you want to put any more nails in your coffin?

1313
00:46:00,166 --> 00:46:00,667
(he chuckles)

1314
00:46:00,709 --> 00:46:02,875
What, you think I'm gonna get cancelled for this shit?

1315
00:46:02,917 --> 00:46:04,208
No, because, if you actually look

1316
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:05,541
at the content of what I said,

1317
00:46:05,583 --> 00:46:07,083
nothing I said was wrong,

1318
00:46:07,125 --> 00:46:09,541
in fact, I was backed into a uh

1319
00:46:09,583 --> 00:46:11,541
theoretical corner, um,

1320
00:46:11,583 --> 00:46:14,500
with how you were describing the situation, so,

1321
00:46:15,625 --> 00:46:17,541
I think, I think I come off fine.

1322
00:46:17,583 --> 00:46:19,249
I think you come off a little bit

1323
00:46:19,291 --> 00:46:21,375
fucking inflexible.

1324
00:46:21,417 --> 00:46:22,541
Really?

1325
00:46:22,583 --> 00:46:24,500
Yeah.

1326
00:46:24,542 --> 00:46:26,124
I'd like to see if this gets to the

1327
00:46:26,166 --> 00:46:27,541
final cut of the film.

1328
00:46:27,583 --> 00:46:30,208
- This scene? I'm happy with it. - Yep.

1329
00:46:31,542 --> 00:46:34,041
Well, I look forward to watching it, then.

1330
00:46:34,083 --> 00:46:35,208
Okay.

1331
00:46:35,250 --> 00:46:37,375
I think you would like this movie more than you

1332
00:46:37,417 --> 00:46:39,000
think you would.

1333
00:46:41,125 --> 00:46:43,542
Okay, so why are you giving me the silent treatment?

1334
00:46:45,250 --> 00:46:47,458
Why aren't you saying anything to me anymore?

1335
00:46:49,333 --> 00:46:50,958
I'm rolling, so, I want to capture

1336
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,625
what you have to say about

1337
00:46:52,667 --> 00:46:55,417
you not talking to me anymore right now.

1338
00:47:03,458 --> 00:47:05,500
I disagree with you on a lot of things.

1339
00:47:05,542 --> 00:47:07,083
Most things.

1340
00:47:07,125 --> 00:47:10,375
- Yes. - But,

1341
00:47:10,417 --> 00:47:11,041
That's fine.

1342
00:47:11,083 --> 00:47:13,249
I think I agree with you on one...

1343
00:47:13,291 --> 00:47:14,708
Maybe one thing.

1344
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:16,625
What do you agree with me on?

1345
00:47:18,667 --> 00:47:21,083
I agree that

1346
00:47:21,125 --> 00:47:23,333
it's better to be honest.

1347
00:47:23,375 --> 00:47:24,041
Yes!

1348
00:47:24,083 --> 00:47:26,083
That's all I've been fucking saying, dude.

1349
00:47:26,125 --> 00:47:27,291
It is better to be honest.

1350
00:47:27,333 --> 00:47:28,666
Fuck yes, okay,

1351
00:47:28,708 --> 00:47:30,208
let's do this.

1352
00:47:30,250 --> 00:47:32,208
Can I ask you questions and shit?

1353
00:47:32,250 --> 00:47:33,708
Go for it.

1354
00:47:33,750 --> 00:47:36,375
I'll try to remain

1355
00:47:36,417 --> 00:47:37,375
myself

1356
00:47:37,417 --> 00:47:38,875
and not any other version. - Okay.

1357
00:47:38,917 --> 00:47:40,875
Fuck yes, alright, um,

1358
00:47:40,917 --> 00:47:42,416
gimme something from your life

1359
00:47:42,458 --> 00:47:44,416
that you've never told anybody,

1360
00:47:44,458 --> 00:47:46,416
and let's capture that fucking honest

1361
00:47:46,458 --> 00:47:47,833
moment, and I guarantee you you'll

1362
00:47:47,875 --> 00:47:49,375
feel better about yourself.

1363
00:47:49,417 --> 00:47:51,208
And you'll feel better about this project,

1364
00:47:51,250 --> 00:47:52,291
if you just share something

1365
00:47:52,333 --> 00:47:53,458
that's real.

1366
00:47:56,250 --> 00:47:58,625
Have you ever had your heart broken?

1367
00:47:58,667 --> 00:47:59,583
Yeah.

1368
00:47:59,625 --> 00:48:02,708
Have you ever broken a heart?

1369
00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:05,458
Probably, that I wasn't aware of it.

1370
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:08,500
Are you just so, you know,

1371
00:48:08,542 --> 00:48:10,208
cold-hearted that you don't even care

1372
00:48:10,250 --> 00:48:13,083
if you broke somebody's heart or not, or?

1373
00:48:13,125 --> 00:48:17,166
No, I mean I, um,

1374
00:48:17,208 --> 00:48:19,083
Who broke your heart? Let's get back on that.

1375
00:48:19,125 --> 00:48:20,041
Who broke your heart?

1376
00:48:20,083 --> 00:48:22,333
It was this guy that I

1377
00:48:23,708 --> 00:48:26,083
I dated when I was like sixteen,

1378
00:48:26,125 --> 00:48:28,834
and we met online, it was so fucking stupid.

1379
00:48:30,125 --> 00:48:33,208
Um, it might have been kind of a trauma bond,

1380
00:48:33,250 --> 00:48:34,333
now that I think of it, but,

1381
00:48:34,375 --> 00:48:37,249
basically, I found a way to use some college money

1382
00:48:37,291 --> 00:48:41,999
to go to England and meet this guy, IRL.

1383
00:48:42,041 --> 00:48:44,500
And we had a whole little tryst, if you will,

1384
00:48:44,542 --> 00:48:47,166
for like a week, and then,

1385
00:48:47,208 --> 00:48:49,708
I came back home, kept in contact with him...

1386
00:48:49,750 --> 00:48:51,375
Kind of. - Did you guys fuck?

1387
00:48:53,667 --> 00:48:55,375
I'll let you figure that out.

1388
00:48:55,417 --> 00:48:56,708
Take a guess, what do you think?

1389
00:48:56,750 --> 00:48:58,708
'Tryst' usually means fuck, I feel like.

1390
00:48:58,750 --> 00:49:00,708
Yeah, so I mean, yeah,

1391
00:49:00,750 --> 00:49:04,999
that is true, we did, but, um,

1392
00:49:05,041 --> 00:49:07,208
yeah,

1393
00:49:07,250 --> 00:49:10,041
it was a really like whirlwind-type romance,

1394
00:49:10,083 --> 00:49:11,416
it was quick...

1395
00:49:11,458 --> 00:49:14,999
Uh, - The fucking, or the romance?

1396
00:49:15,041 --> 00:49:16,375
The romance, because after that

1397
00:49:16,417 --> 00:49:18,666
it just became like torture, frankly,

1398
00:49:18,708 --> 00:49:20,208
because there's no way to keep up

1399
00:49:20,250 --> 00:49:23,124
a relationship that far apart.
You know what I mean? Like,

1400
00:49:23,166 --> 00:49:26,208
he's in England, I'm in the US,

1401
00:49:26,250 --> 00:49:28,041
we don't see each other physically, like,

1402
00:49:28,083 --> 00:49:29,708
we don't get that time, and when we did,

1403
00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:32,166
and then we couldn't see each other after that,

1404
00:49:32,208 --> 00:49:33,208
that made it even worse.

1405
00:49:33,250 --> 00:49:36,208
Because it's like we had one
taste of like getting that feeling,

1406
00:49:36,250 --> 00:49:37,958
and then...

1407
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,833
So then what happened, did he cheat on you?

1408
00:49:39,875 --> 00:49:41,166
What happened? - Yeah, actually.

1409
00:49:41,208 --> 00:49:42,208
- Really? - Yeah.

1410
00:49:42,250 --> 00:49:44,458
That's a surprise.

1411
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,458
Oh, not too surprising, it was long distance.

1412
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:49,041
Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm being sarcastic.

1413
00:49:49,083 --> 00:49:50,875
Oh. (she chuckles)

1414
00:49:50,917 --> 00:49:53,125
Yeah, no, yeah, um,

1415
00:49:54,417 --> 00:49:55,541
yeah.

1416
00:49:55,583 --> 00:49:57,708
Were you pissed off when that happened?

1417
00:49:57,750 --> 00:50:01,249
Yeah, I was very upset. Um,

1418
00:50:01,291 --> 00:50:03,166
Was that before you started making content,

1419
00:50:03,208 --> 00:50:04,291
or after?

1420
00:50:04,333 --> 00:50:05,708
Much before.

1421
00:50:05,750 --> 00:50:07,833
Do you think maybe that led you down the path of

1422
00:50:07,875 --> 00:50:09,583
like wanting attention from other people,

1423
00:50:09,625 --> 00:50:11,291
and showing yourself?

1424
00:50:14,417 --> 00:50:15,375
Maybe?

1425
00:50:15,417 --> 00:50:16,708
Maybe a little.

1426
00:50:18,750 --> 00:50:20,625
Why do you think you want to show yourself

1427
00:50:20,667 --> 00:50:22,708
to the world in the way that you have?

1428
00:50:22,750 --> 00:50:24,500
And why do you think you're so apprehensive

1429
00:50:24,542 --> 00:50:26,208
about showing yourself in

1430
00:50:27,166 --> 00:50:31,000
uh, more artistically significant ways?

1431
00:50:33,667 --> 00:50:35,999
If you want me to be like...

1432
00:50:36,041 --> 00:50:38,708
Do you want the real answer, or do you want

1433
00:50:38,750 --> 00:50:40,583
the nice fluffy answer?

1434
00:50:40,625 --> 00:50:41,416
Give me both.

1435
00:50:41,458 --> 00:50:43,416
I wanna hear your version of like a fluffy one,

1436
00:50:43,458 --> 00:50:45,999
and then give me the real answer.

1437
00:50:46,041 --> 00:50:48,583
A fluffy one would be um

1438
00:50:54,166 --> 00:50:57,125
my parents did their best,

1439
00:50:58,250 --> 00:51:01,083
but ultimately failed to

1440
00:51:01,125 --> 00:51:03,417
supply me with a uh

1441
00:51:04,917 --> 00:51:07,541
a more secure self-esteem.

1442
00:51:07,583 --> 00:51:08,583
If that makes sense.

1443
00:51:08,625 --> 00:51:09,625
It makes total sense.

1444
00:51:09,667 --> 00:51:12,917
- They were very critical. - Mhm.

1445
00:51:12,959 --> 00:51:14,500
Uh,

1446
00:51:16,583 --> 00:51:19,583
and the truthful, the more truthful answer is,

1447
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,375
they were just really fucking shitty people.

1448
00:51:23,417 --> 00:51:25,041
They were physically violent.

1449
00:51:26,333 --> 00:51:28,041
Emotionally explosive. - I'm sorry.

1450
00:51:28,083 --> 00:51:29,000
I'm sorry.

1451
00:51:30,417 --> 00:51:31,249
No, it's okay.

1452
00:51:31,291 --> 00:51:33,291
Do you want me to cut, or?

1453
00:51:33,333 --> 00:51:34,541
- No, it's okay. - Okay.

1454
00:51:34,583 --> 00:51:37,375
And it's important to be truthful.

1455
00:51:37,417 --> 00:51:40,250
So yeah, that's the reason why, probably.

1456
00:51:42,417 --> 00:51:45,541
I'm honored that you shared that.

1457
00:51:45,583 --> 00:51:48,041
That's really beautiful. - Thank you.

1458
00:51:48,083 --> 00:51:50,333
Yeah, no, it's okay, I mean,

1459
00:51:50,375 --> 00:51:51,792
shit happens.

1460
00:51:51,834 --> 00:51:53,041
(nervous chuckle) Um.

1461
00:51:53,083 --> 00:51:55,000
Yeah. Do you want me to cut?

1462
00:51:56,417 --> 00:51:58,041
We can just cut real quick.

1463
00:51:59,166 --> 00:52:01,083
Yeah, sure.

1464
00:52:01,125 --> 00:52:02,041
Okay.

1465
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:05,208
So, start telling that story again,

1466
00:52:05,250 --> 00:52:06,541
that you were telling me

1467
00:52:06,583 --> 00:52:08,041
before I started rolling.

1468
00:52:08,083 --> 00:52:08,708
Oh um,

1469
00:52:08,750 --> 00:52:10,208
(they chuckle)

1470
00:52:10,250 --> 00:52:13,541
yeah um, it was just so stupid,

1471
00:52:13,583 --> 00:52:16,541
me and my friend Christina,

1472
00:52:16,583 --> 00:52:20,208
we just got like totally bored one night and

1473
00:52:20,250 --> 00:52:21,541
everybody was having a party,

1474
00:52:21,583 --> 00:52:23,416
we weren't invited,

1475
00:52:23,458 --> 00:52:25,333
in fact we were kind of barred from it

1476
00:52:25,375 --> 00:52:28,625
for reasons that don't need to be explained.

1477
00:52:28,667 --> 00:52:30,500
She got in a fight with somebody. Anyway,

1478
00:52:30,542 --> 00:52:32,583
Look at me more when you're telling it.

1479
00:52:32,625 --> 00:52:35,458
Uh, yeah, so, anyway, she uh,

1480
00:52:36,542 --> 00:52:38,333
she decided like, 'Wanna play truth or dare?'

1481
00:52:38,375 --> 00:52:39,458
and I was like 'Yeah, sure'.

1482
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:42,375
So, we decided to go and she,

1483
00:52:42,417 --> 00:52:44,041
it was just truth mostly,

1484
00:52:44,083 --> 00:52:46,708
I didn't have any dares in mind, she didn't,

1485
00:52:46,750 --> 00:52:50,583
until like half an hour in, she's like, 'Oh my God,

1486
00:52:50,625 --> 00:52:52,041
why don't we go skinny dipping?'

1487
00:52:52,083 --> 00:52:53,708
That was her dare, and I was like, fuck,

1488
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:56,375
alright, well I guess I'm going skinny dipping then, so,

1489
00:52:56,417 --> 00:52:58,625
I had to run across this quad,

1490
00:52:58,667 --> 00:53:01,375
because she somehow tacked on another layer

1491
00:53:01,417 --> 00:53:03,999
to the dare, that wasn't, that's not the rules,

1492
00:53:04,041 --> 00:53:06,249
but she made it the rules, so,

1493
00:53:06,291 --> 00:53:09,166
of course, I had to do something extra, but,

1494
00:53:09,208 --> 00:53:11,291
so did she, she followed me, so.

1495
00:53:12,625 --> 00:53:14,708
So, what did it feel like?

1496
00:53:14,750 --> 00:53:16,541
Doing it?

1497
00:53:16,583 --> 00:53:19,333
Uh,

1498
00:53:19,375 --> 00:53:22,124
cold. (they chuckle)

1499
00:53:22,166 --> 00:53:24,041
And it was freezing. - Was that, so that,

1500
00:53:24,083 --> 00:53:25,999
was that the first time you'd seen her naked?

1501
00:53:26,041 --> 00:53:26,625
Yeah.

1502
00:53:26,667 --> 00:53:28,708
And the first time she'd seen you naked?

1503
00:53:28,750 --> 00:53:29,666
Yeah.

1504
00:53:29,708 --> 00:53:31,124
Was there any attraction there,

1505
00:53:31,166 --> 00:53:32,625
between the two of you?

1506
00:53:35,417 --> 00:53:37,249
I mean, maybe.

1507
00:53:37,291 --> 00:53:38,541
Well, I mean you decided to be

1508
00:53:38,583 --> 00:53:39,583
naked with each other,

1509
00:53:39,625 --> 00:53:41,291
and you coulda just been like, fuck no,

1510
00:53:41,333 --> 00:53:42,375
I'm not gonna do that,

1511
00:53:42,417 --> 00:53:44,208
but you decided to do it anyway, so.

1512
00:53:44,250 --> 00:53:46,208
That's true. That's true.

1513
00:53:46,250 --> 00:53:48,124
Do you dabble in

1514
00:53:48,166 --> 00:53:50,500
stuff with women, or?

1515
00:53:50,542 --> 00:53:51,541
I mean,

1516
00:53:51,583 --> 00:53:54,083
sure, you could say that.

1517
00:53:54,125 --> 00:53:56,958
So, you're attracted to women too?

1518
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,958
- Yeah. - In addition to men?

1519
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,125
- Yeah. - Were you, were you attracted to her?

1520
00:54:03,708 --> 00:54:04,583
A little bit,

1521
00:54:04,625 --> 00:54:07,333
but it wasn't formally known, so.

1522
00:54:07,375 --> 00:54:11,208
Mhm. Do you think there was anything,

1523
00:54:11,250 --> 00:54:12,958
do you think she might have felt anything

1524
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,208
for you, or it was just kind of one-way?

1525
00:54:15,250 --> 00:54:17,249
- I think it was more one-way.

1526
00:54:17,291 --> 00:54:18,416
Yeah. That sucks.

1527
00:54:18,458 --> 00:54:20,750
She had a boyfriend like all the time.

1528
00:54:20,792 --> 00:54:22,375
- Mm. - So.

1529
00:54:22,417 --> 00:54:24,458
I'm sure he wouldn't have minded if.

1530
00:54:24,500 --> 00:54:26,124
(they chuckle) - Right? Yeah.

1531
00:54:26,166 --> 00:54:26,999
Of course.

1532
00:54:27,041 --> 00:54:29,083
This shot is so good.

1533
00:54:29,125 --> 00:54:30,500
Oh really? Yeah.

1534
00:54:30,542 --> 00:54:31,708
I'm glad.

1535
00:54:31,750 --> 00:54:32,500
You look great.

1536
00:54:32,542 --> 00:54:34,333
This is almost like the poster or something,

1537
00:54:34,375 --> 00:54:34,999
I don't know.

1538
00:54:35,041 --> 00:54:37,375
Oh thanks! Yay!

1539
00:54:37,417 --> 00:54:38,833
Beautiful. - See, this is fun, right?

1540
00:54:38,875 --> 00:54:40,291
You're having fun with this, right?

1541
00:54:40,333 --> 00:54:41,208
Oh yeah, absolutely.

1542
00:54:41,250 --> 00:54:42,375
Yeah, dude.

1543
00:54:42,417 --> 00:54:44,166
This is better.

1544
00:54:44,208 --> 00:54:46,166
Look, you're fuckin', the camera loves you when

1545
00:54:46,208 --> 00:54:47,583
you're being fucking honest, dude.

1546
00:54:47,625 --> 00:54:49,500
I just feel like Rose in 'Titanic'.

1547
00:54:49,542 --> 00:54:50,958
Yeah, exactly.

1548
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,458
'Paint me like the French woman' or whatever.

1549
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:54,750
Yeah.

1550
00:54:56,166 --> 00:54:59,208
You can feel free to take your top off at any time,

1551
00:54:59,250 --> 00:55:00,708
like she did.

1552
00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:01,583
Sure.

1553
00:55:01,625 --> 00:55:03,625
- I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding. - Nice try.

1554
00:55:03,667 --> 00:55:04,416
I'm just kidding.

1555
00:55:04,458 --> 00:55:06,041
I think we're good.

1556
00:55:06,083 --> 00:55:07,541
I think we got it.

1557
00:55:07,583 --> 00:55:08,416
Did that feel good?

1558
00:55:08,458 --> 00:55:09,458
Oh, you do?

1559
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:10,333
Yeah, dude.

1560
00:55:10,375 --> 00:55:11,375
That's it?

1561
00:55:11,417 --> 00:55:13,416
Well, I don't know. Um,

1562
00:55:13,458 --> 00:55:15,583
is there more you would want to share?

1563
00:55:17,291 --> 00:55:18,999
I mean, if you think we got everything.

1564
00:55:19,041 --> 00:55:21,041
Well, I just feel like we had

1565
00:55:21,083 --> 00:55:25,124
this really real disagreement.

1566
00:55:25,166 --> 00:55:27,792
You know? We resolved it.

1567
00:55:27,834 --> 00:55:30,208
You shared things.

1568
00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:33,124
Um, you opened up.

1569
00:55:33,166 --> 00:55:35,333
You got raw.

1570
00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:38,041
I feel like that's kind of it.

1571
00:55:38,083 --> 00:55:38,708
I don't know.

1572
00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:40,041
Well, I mean, it's not really

1573
00:55:40,083 --> 00:55:41,583
an ending ending, but like

1574
00:55:43,166 --> 00:55:46,458
us talking about it ending could be the ending.

1575
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:48,458
So I think we got it.

1576
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:50,958
- Okay. - How do you feel?

1577
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,333
I feel um

1578
00:55:53,375 --> 00:55:55,041
really good, actually.

1579
00:55:55,083 --> 00:55:55,999
Yeah, you feel good?

1580
00:55:56,041 --> 00:55:56,999
I'm quite refreshed.

1581
00:55:57,041 --> 00:55:58,416
I feel like we bonded.

1582
00:55:58,458 --> 00:56:00,041
- Yeah, we did! - Like even though we,

1583
00:56:00,083 --> 00:56:01,583
even though we disagreed about shit,

1584
00:56:01,625 --> 00:56:03,249
I feel like we bonded a little bit.

1585
00:56:03,291 --> 00:56:07,208
Oh yeah, and it felt really really good to be um

1586
00:56:07,250 --> 00:56:08,375
so honest.

1587
00:56:08,417 --> 00:56:09,708
Here, move back a little bit,

1588
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:11,999
I want to get the light more on your face.

1589
00:56:12,041 --> 00:56:14,792
I want you to look as beautiful as possible.

1590
00:56:14,834 --> 00:56:15,458
Thank you.

1591
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:17,333
Not that you could ever not look beautiful,

1592
00:56:17,375 --> 00:56:18,958
but let's...

1593
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,375
There, there we go!

1594
00:56:20,417 --> 00:56:22,416
That's even better.

1595
00:56:22,458 --> 00:56:25,541
Yeah. That's awesome.

1596
00:56:25,583 --> 00:56:28,708
Sorry, you were saying? - Um,

1597
00:56:28,750 --> 00:56:30,583
so, you think we, we got everything?

1598
00:56:30,625 --> 00:56:31,708
Yeah, dude.

1599
00:56:33,208 --> 00:56:36,208
- Cool! Alright, well- - Did it feel good?

1600
00:56:36,250 --> 00:56:37,208
Yeah, it's been good,

1601
00:56:37,250 --> 00:56:39,708
it's been a wild ride, that's for sure.

1602
00:56:39,750 --> 00:56:43,041
You look like, see the, you look like you just fucked.

1603
00:56:43,083 --> 00:56:44,541
You know what I mean? Like it, it,

1604
00:56:44,583 --> 00:56:46,083
you have to vibe of like

1605
00:56:46,125 --> 00:56:48,541
you got something out of your system.

1606
00:56:48,583 --> 00:56:49,416
You know what I mean?

1607
00:56:49,458 --> 00:56:51,541
Like it was catharsis or some shit.

1608
00:56:51,583 --> 00:56:53,666
Yeah, in one way or another, I did.

1609
00:56:53,708 --> 00:56:54,209
Yeah.

1610
00:56:54,251 --> 00:56:55,999
And I have you to thank, so.

1611
00:56:56,041 --> 00:56:58,375
Yeah, you have me to thank for fucking you.

1612
00:56:58,417 --> 00:57:00,458
Cinematically, artistically.

1613
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:02,249
Yeah, sure.

1614
00:57:02,291 --> 00:57:03,124
Well, that's all!

1615
00:57:03,166 --> 00:57:04,500
(they laugh)

1616
00:57:04,542 --> 00:57:06,541
That's all art is, that's all sex is,

1617
00:57:06,583 --> 00:57:08,124
that's all anything, it's just like,

1618
00:57:08,166 --> 00:57:10,541
just get two people being honest with each other

1619
00:57:10,583 --> 00:57:13,666
for X amount of period of fucking time,

1620
00:57:13,708 --> 00:57:14,917
right? - Yeah.

1621
00:57:14,959 --> 00:57:17,291
- Yeah absolutely.
- I feel like you learned something today.

1622
00:57:17,333 --> 00:57:19,166
Yeah, I reckon I did.

1623
00:57:19,208 --> 00:57:21,291
Yeah.

1624
00:57:21,333 --> 00:57:23,208
Yeah, you just have like a, you, you

1625
00:57:23,250 --> 00:57:26,333
have like a post-fuck daze, dude.

1626
00:57:26,375 --> 00:57:28,583
You're like just kind of high.

1627
00:57:28,625 --> 00:57:29,416
You look high.

1628
00:57:29,458 --> 00:57:31,041
(they chuckle)

1629
00:57:31,083 --> 00:57:32,249
You do, but in a good way,

1630
00:57:32,291 --> 00:57:34,208
you look high in like a relatable way.

1631
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:37,124
(she laughs maniacally)

1632
00:57:37,166 --> 00:57:40,083
Dude, your actual laugh is so fucking good, dude.

1633
00:57:42,166 --> 00:57:43,208
(he laughs)

1634
00:57:43,250 --> 00:57:45,291
You sound so high right now.

1635
00:57:46,667 --> 00:57:49,333
Oh goodness, okay, um,

1636
00:57:50,625 --> 00:57:53,625
yeah. - You sound so high.

1637
00:57:53,667 --> 00:57:56,041
You look so high, you sound so high.

1638
00:57:56,083 --> 00:57:58,375
Well, that's cause...

1639
00:57:58,417 --> 00:57:59,249
Cause you're high?

1640
00:57:59,291 --> 00:58:00,625
Did you get high before this?

1641
00:58:00,667 --> 00:58:04,666
(she chuckles) - No I um

1642
00:58:04,708 --> 00:58:06,416
I don't have a friend named Kristen.

1643
00:58:06,458 --> 00:58:07,999
I never did.

1644
00:58:08,041 --> 00:58:09,708
You don't have a friend who?

1645
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:10,458
What'd you say?

1646
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:12,750
I don't have a friend named Kristen.

1647
00:58:14,417 --> 00:58:16,041
Is that what? I don't even remember what

1648
00:58:16,083 --> 00:58:17,041
the friend's name was.

1649
00:58:17,083 --> 00:58:19,041
I just remembered the nude bodies.

1650
00:58:20,667 --> 00:58:21,708
Yeah, nobody got nude,

1651
00:58:21,750 --> 00:58:24,583
that didn't happen. - What's her, what's her actual name?

1652
00:58:24,625 --> 00:58:27,500
She doesn't exist. It, I made it up.

1653
00:58:29,250 --> 00:58:30,416
Wait, what?

1654
00:58:30,458 --> 00:58:32,250
Yeah, I made her up.

1655
00:58:36,583 --> 00:58:38,041
So you never...

1656
00:58:38,083 --> 00:58:40,041
Wait, you didn't go skinny dipping with anybody?

1657
00:58:40,083 --> 00:58:42,666
You didn't do any...

1658
00:58:42,708 --> 00:58:46,083
Okay. Why did you make that up?

1659
00:58:46,125 --> 00:58:49,041
Well, I mean, you wanted something interesting.

1660
00:58:49,083 --> 00:58:51,125
No, I wanted something honest.

1661
00:58:52,583 --> 00:58:54,041
You didn’t, I’m not gonna cut that,

1662
00:58:54,083 --> 00:58:56,124
I'm gonna cut that out now, if it was made up.

1663
00:58:56,166 --> 00:58:58,041
I'm gonna just not gonna use that.

1664
00:58:58,083 --> 00:59:00,750
- Thanks for telling me.
- Well, you're gonna have a lot to cut out.

1665
00:59:00,792 --> 00:59:01,708
It wasn't that long,

1666
00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:04,041
it was like just a couple minutes.

1667
00:59:04,083 --> 00:59:06,583
No, my parents also never hit me.

1668
00:59:10,417 --> 00:59:12,417
Why would you lie about something like that?

1669
00:59:14,667 --> 00:59:16,291
Why would you make a documentary

1670
00:59:16,333 --> 00:59:18,708
with the veiled purpose of trying to get someone

1671
00:59:18,750 --> 00:59:20,958
nude on camera?

1672
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,166
Is that really what you think that I do?

1673
00:59:24,458 --> 00:59:25,708
Well at least a little bit.

1674
00:59:25,750 --> 00:59:27,333
No, I don't think I do that at all.

1675
00:59:27,375 --> 00:59:29,708
Why would you lie about your parents beating you?

1676
00:59:32,417 --> 00:59:34,792
Why would you think that that's okay?

1677
00:59:34,834 --> 00:59:37,416
What about people- - For the
same reason you thought it was okay

1678
00:59:37,458 --> 00:59:39,500
to ask me to take my clothes off for the camera.

1679
00:59:39,542 --> 00:59:40,708
What about people who are

1680
00:59:40,750 --> 00:59:42,833
watching this right now who
have actually been beaten?

1681
00:59:42,875 --> 00:59:44,541
How are they gonna feel when they see you?

1682
00:59:44,583 --> 00:59:46,958
What about your fans?

1683
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,458
What fans?

1684
00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:49,291
Your fans.

1685
00:59:49,333 --> 00:59:51,083
I have followers, not fans.

1686
00:59:51,125 --> 00:59:52,500
Okay, sorry.

1687
00:59:52,542 --> 00:59:53,583
'Followers'.

1688
00:59:53,625 --> 00:59:54,958
Wait,

1689
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,249
why would you?

1690
00:59:56,291 --> 00:59:57,625
So, you made up

1691
00:59:57,667 --> 00:59:59,208
that you went skinny dipping,

1692
00:59:59,250 --> 01:00:00,583
which is like, fine, whatever,

1693
01:00:00,625 --> 01:00:02,375
but, why would you make up about

1694
01:00:02,417 --> 01:00:04,166
your parents beating you?

1695
01:00:08,291 --> 01:00:09,375
So, I'm not gonna use that,

1696
01:00:09,417 --> 01:00:10,833
and you're gonna thank me one day,

1697
01:00:10,875 --> 01:00:12,041
that I didn't use that,

1698
01:00:12,083 --> 01:00:13,458
because that's really fucked up.

1699
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:14,958
I'm sorry.

1700
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,500
I just

1701
01:00:16,542 --> 01:00:19,208
- I'm gonna cut that part out.
- I wanted to prove that I can act,

1702
01:00:19,250 --> 01:00:21,875
I mean, you did ask me about
that. I'm gonna cut that part out

1703
01:00:21,917 --> 01:00:23,958
about you making that shit up about your parents,

1704
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,208
that's really fucked up.

1705
01:00:25,250 --> 01:00:26,999
Yeah.

1706
01:00:27,041 --> 01:00:30,250
- I don't know why you would do that.
- The lip filler thing isn't true either.

1707
01:00:34,083 --> 01:00:36,208
Excuse me?

1708
01:00:36,250 --> 01:00:37,500
The lip filler thing.

1709
01:00:37,542 --> 01:00:39,333
That wasn't true either.

1710
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,208
That's how this all fucking started.

1711
01:00:44,583 --> 01:00:46,416
Why...

1712
01:00:46,458 --> 01:00:49,208
Why would you lie about the lip filler thing?

1713
01:00:49,250 --> 01:00:51,416
I thought it gave me more color.

1714
01:00:51,458 --> 01:00:52,708
Made me more interesting.

1715
01:00:52,750 --> 01:00:54,083
It made you more interesting

1716
01:00:54,125 --> 01:00:56,208
to say you had lip filler?

1717
01:00:56,250 --> 01:00:58,375
You thought it was hella interesting, did you not?

1718
01:00:58,417 --> 01:01:01,166
What about the guy in, the guy in England?

1719
01:01:03,375 --> 01:01:05,249
That is actually true.

1720
01:01:05,291 --> 01:01:06,208
That's true?

1721
01:01:06,250 --> 01:01:07,458
That is true.

1722
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:09,416
Are you lying to me right now?

1723
01:01:09,458 --> 01:01:11,124
No.

1724
01:01:11,166 --> 01:01:13,124
How can I believe you?

1725
01:01:13,166 --> 01:01:14,417
You tell me.

1726
01:01:16,041 --> 01:01:17,999
What other shit have you lied about?

1727
01:01:18,041 --> 01:01:20,083
I feel like there's more.

1728
01:01:20,125 --> 01:01:22,375
- There isn't more. - What are you doing to me right now?

1729
01:01:22,417 --> 01:01:24,291
Are you sabotaging my fucking movie?

1730
01:01:25,750 --> 01:01:28,458
No, I mean, you wanted something interesting.

1731
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:30,625
No, I wanted the truth, I wanted honesty,

1732
01:01:30,667 --> 01:01:32,417
I wanted real shit.

1733
01:01:34,750 --> 01:01:37,333
But that's not really what any movie is, is it?

1734
01:01:39,667 --> 01:01:41,667
We can damn well try.

1735
01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:46,541
So, this fuckin' movie sucks now.

1736
01:01:46,583 --> 01:01:48,124
Um,

1737
01:01:48,166 --> 01:01:50,999
if you'd like to think of it that way, sure.

1738
01:01:51,041 --> 01:01:53,708
But was it still entertaining?

1739
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:55,291
I don't know.

1740
01:01:55,333 --> 01:01:59,124
It's a document of a fuckin' liar.

1741
01:01:59,166 --> 01:02:01,333
That I'm gonna release, and then,

1742
01:02:01,375 --> 01:02:03,958
your followers are gonna be like

1743
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,999
'what the fuck is with her'.

1744
01:02:07,041 --> 01:02:08,583
Maybe people will be more interested

1745
01:02:08,625 --> 01:02:10,458
in what you had to say.

1746
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:13,208
Which is what?

1747
01:02:13,250 --> 01:02:16,041
That girls changing clothes

1748
01:02:16,083 --> 01:02:17,666
is more interesting than the outfits

1749
01:02:17,708 --> 01:02:19,083
that they're wearing.

1750
01:02:19,125 --> 01:02:21,041
It is.

1751
01:02:21,083 --> 01:02:22,417
That's art.

1752
01:02:24,208 --> 01:02:26,708
Art is privacy, art is

1753
01:02:26,750 --> 01:02:29,208
intimacy, art is

1754
01:02:29,250 --> 01:02:31,708
what we do not see being shown.

1755
01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:33,750
Look, I think you

1756
01:02:33,792 --> 01:02:36,625
I think you come off worse than I do.

1757
01:02:36,667 --> 01:02:37,375
Do I?

1758
01:02:37,417 --> 01:02:38,458
Yeah.

1759
01:02:40,542 --> 01:02:43,333
I'm not sure how, I mean,

1760
01:02:43,375 --> 01:02:45,041
you told me we couldn't cut anything

1761
01:02:45,083 --> 01:02:47,083
from the film, that you wanted to use it,

1762
01:02:47,125 --> 01:02:50,041
all of it, so I just gave you more material.

1763
01:02:50,083 --> 01:02:52,041
Does it really matter if it's true or not?

1764
01:02:52,083 --> 01:02:53,583
So, the lip filler thing was true,

1765
01:02:53,625 --> 01:02:54,875
you did get fucking lip filler.

1766
01:02:54,917 --> 01:02:56,291
Because otherwise, what would be

1767
01:02:56,333 --> 01:02:58,708
your fucking motivation for lying,

1768
01:02:58,750 --> 01:03:00,416
if you didn't tell some truth that you

1769
01:03:00,458 --> 01:03:01,958
wanted to cover up?

1770
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:03,375
So the lip filler thing was real,

1771
01:03:03,417 --> 01:03:04,541
so I know that that's real,

1772
01:03:04,583 --> 01:03:06,166
because it wouldn't make logical sense

1773
01:03:06,208 --> 01:03:08,083
if the lip filler thing was fake.

1774
01:03:08,125 --> 01:03:09,333
Right?

1775
01:03:09,375 --> 01:03:11,208
No, but it is fake.

1776
01:03:11,250 --> 01:03:13,083
Do you really think I can't act?

1777
01:03:15,500 --> 01:03:16,625
I wish you would act.

1778
01:03:16,667 --> 01:03:19,666
I wish you'd do something with your fucking life.

1779
01:03:19,708 --> 01:03:21,708
- Maybe I already I am! - You're in New York City,

1780
01:03:21,750 --> 01:03:24,083
you're in New York fucking City, act.

1781
01:03:24,125 --> 01:03:25,666
- Maybe I am. - Stupid fucking bitch.

1782
01:03:25,708 --> 01:03:27,666
Swear to fucking God.

1783
01:03:27,708 --> 01:03:29,208
You're so fucking beautiful,

1784
01:03:29,250 --> 01:03:30,416
and the camera loves you,

1785
01:03:30,458 --> 01:03:32,083
and you're a piece of shit.

1786
01:03:32,125 --> 01:03:33,208
How does that feel?

1787
01:03:33,250 --> 01:03:35,166
All the world's a stage.

1788
01:03:35,208 --> 01:03:36,708
I guess so.

1789
01:03:41,708 --> 01:03:42,958
Are we done here?

1790
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,125
Do you have anything else you wanna say to the world?

1791
01:03:49,291 --> 01:03:50,583
Be true to yourself.

1792
01:03:54,667 --> 01:03:56,375
That's all.

1793
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:16,124
(acoustic guitar strumming)

1794
01:04:16,166 --> 01:04:18,667
(melodic humming)

1795
01:04:25,041 --> 01:04:28,625
♪ I find it hard to sleep. ♪

1796
01:04:32,041 --> 01:04:35,500
♪ I'm tired of counting sheep. ♪

1797
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:40,083
♪ I'll take you anywhere, ♪

1798
01:04:40,125 --> 01:04:42,041
♪ I'll take you ♪

1799
01:04:42,083 --> 01:04:43,542
♪ anywhere, ♪

1800
01:04:44,625 --> 01:04:47,250
♪ when you dream tonight, ♪

1801
01:04:49,708 --> 01:04:54,125
♪ please dream of us, ♪

1802
01:04:58,250 --> 01:05:00,208
♪ dream of us. ♪

1803
01:05:05,542 --> 01:05:09,375
♪ Show me where you go. ♪

1804
01:05:12,417 --> 01:05:16,417
♪ I just want to know. ♪

1805
01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:20,291
♪ I'll do with anything, ♪

1806
01:05:20,333 --> 01:05:22,416
♪ I'll do with ♪

1807
01:05:22,458 --> 01:05:25,291
♪ anything, ♪

1808
01:05:25,333 --> 01:05:27,750
♪ when you dream tonight, ♪

1809
01:05:30,041 --> 01:05:34,333
♪ please dream of us, ♪

1810
01:05:38,291 --> 01:05:40,625
♪ dream of us. ♪

1811
01:05:43,250 --> 01:05:47,041
♪ Just dream of us, ♪

1812
01:05:51,417 --> 01:05:54,083
♪ dream of us. ♪

1813
01:06:30,500 --> 01:06:32,083
That was beautiful.